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Discuss Latest World News / Re: FIRE upon FIRE
« on: July 10, 2017, 09:10:27 AM »
Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

Fire and Ice 

BY ROBERT FROST

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what Iíve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.

 :peace:

~Abdul-Hadi

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Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

booze= bad, bad for liver, bad for kidneys, bad for heart  :yes


                      :peace:

Drinking wine in moderation (not to excess) has actually been shown to be good for the heart.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3023893/

In excess it is definitely not good for the health.

ALLAH knows best.
 
:peace:

~Abdul-Hadi

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Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

Know what else the Almighty has prohibited?  :hmm

16:116 And do not say, as to what your tongues falsely describe: "This is permissible, and that is forbidden;" that you seek to invent lies about God. Those who invent lies about God will not succeed.

If one doesn't want anything to do with alcohol--don't. On the other hand, don't create lies saying that it is prohibited. It isn't prohibited.

We *are* warned about dangers associated with drinking. If drinking is prohibited, those dangers are moot--as are the benefits.

The prohibition against praying while intoxicated would be redundant if intoxication was already prohibited. The example of Paradise has rivers of wine in it. The Prophet Jesus (Peace upon all Prophets) is said to have turned water to wine. There is no outright prohibition against alcohol--where else is anything that is prohibited approached so obliquely? Why does 16:67 talk about making intoxicants, if they are "forbidden" to consume?

It boggles my mind that so many of those that purport to follow the Guidance chase after their desires instead.

17:77 Such was the way of those whom We had sent before you of Our messengers. And you will not find any change in Our way.

https://www.gci.org/series/alcohol/bible

Oh, maybe the Almighty meant no change ~except~ for alcohol?  :nope:

Are there those that want to create a new religion and abstaining from alcohol is one of the rites? Interested parties can proceed in peace without me.

7:32 Say: "Who has made forbidden the nice things that God has brought forth for His servants and the good provisions?" Say: "They are meant for those who believe during this worldly life, and they will be exclusive for them on the Day of Resurrection." It is such that We explain the revelations for those who know.

Maybe like the wine in the example of Paradise?

There are different types of excess in this world. Parsimony is an excess, and extravagance is an excess. Don't fall into excesses.

May ALLAH see fit to Guide all seekers.

:peace:

~Abdul-Hadi


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Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

In addition to what has already been said, it stood out to me about mentioning the Almighty before eating. The actual instruction is to remember the Almighty, not to mention/pronounce.

By the way, neither Christians nor Jews are prohibited alcohol. Indeed, in the Bible, Jesus (Peace upon all Prophets) turned water into wine.

Oh, here's another link to a previous thread:

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609045.0

Lol, that thread starts out on topic and quickly devolves into tangential issues

ALLAH knows best.

:peace:

~Abdul-Hadi

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Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

@OnlyOneGod: Have you looked at this topic on previous threads?

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602930

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606121


Based on my study and individual understanding, alcohol is not haram (follow your ~own~ understanding, not mine).

Is there really anything new to be said about this topic? According to the Bible (John 2:1-11), Jesus (Peace upon all Prophets) turned water to wine. Wine in paradise (47:15), wine from grapes (16:67), prohibition from praying while "befogged" (4:43), avoiding Satan (5:90), endogenous fermentation, natural occurrence of alcohol, water as an intoxicant...all this and more has already been discussed. It's enough to drive a person to drink!  :)

7:32 Say: "Who has made forbidden the nice things that God has brought forth for His servants and the good provisions?" Say: "They are meant for those who believe during this worldly life, and they will be exclusive for them on the Day of Resurrection." It is such that We explain the revelations for those who know.

ALLAH knows best.

:peace:

~Abdul-Hadi

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello Everyone
« on: June 13, 2017, 07:10:25 AM »
Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

For myself, I accept only the hadith and Sunnah contained in the Qur'an. I reject ALL extra-Qur'anic hadith and extra-Qur'anic Sunnah for purposes of the deen/system of Islam.

Of course there is wisdom outside of the Qur'an--it can be considered and perhaps appropriately used independently. A cookbook for cooking, a manual for car repair, and the Qur'an for purposes of the system of Islam.

The Qur'an, calls itself the "best hadith", states that it is complete, fully detailed, enough for a believer, protected, and so forth--and yet most who call themselves Muslims don't actually adhere to its guidance.
 
:peace:

~Abdul-Hadi

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello Everyone
« on: June 12, 2017, 07:01:51 AM »
Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

@openmind:  :welcome:

Most on this website don't follow traditional/popular Islam. Many here do not even view Islam as a religion, but more as a way of life. If you have the opportunity, please peruse the articles on the main page.

Did you have any specific questions or concerns?

2:256 There is no compulsion in the system; the proper way has been clarified from the wrong way. Whoever rejects evil, and believes in God, indeed he has taken grasp of the strongest hold that will never break. God is Hearer, Knower.

May the Lord bless you and keep you.
May the Lord make his face to shine upon you, and be gracious to you.
May the Lord lift up his countenance upon you, and give you peace.


:peace:

~Abdul-Hadi

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Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

Remember that there are nontrinitarian Christians who accept Jesus as a Prophet (peace upon them all) and only that. I'll follow with two links to trinitarian perspective, one link to Jewish perspective, and a link to The Grounds of Christianity Examined by Comparing The New Testament with the Old. Google (or your favorite search engine) can find you as much of this stuff as you care to read.

One trinitarian Christian perspective:

http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/jesus-is-god.htm

Another trinitarian perspective:

https://goingfarther.net/common-questions/is-jesus-god/

Why Jews Don't Believe in Jesus:

http://www.aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html

The Grounds of Christianity Examined by Comparing The New Testament with the Old:

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/15968

May the Lord bless you and keep you.
May the Lord make his face to shine upon you, and be gracious to you.
May the Lord lift up his countenance upon you, and give you peace.


 :peace:

~Abdul-Hadi

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: What is Lahma Al-Khinzeeri ?
« on: June 03, 2017, 09:50:10 AM »
Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

It doesn't refer to "harmful", it means "cunning intelligence".

Regards,

In 5:60 apes (or even apelike) and cunning intelligence are more antonymous than similar. Are there any other usages of the word in AQ that could reinforce/support the meaning of cunning intelligence?

It doesn't seem to work in 5:3(:6), 5:60(:118), 6:145(:21) or 16:115(:7).

l-albābi, l-nuhā, ḥuk'man are some words that relate to intelligence, understanding, wisdom.

ALLAH knows best.

 :peace:

~Abdul-Hadi

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: What is Lahma Al-Khinzeeri ?
« on: June 02, 2017, 03:43:30 PM »
Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

If the word khinzīr refers to "harmful" then how would this meaning fit in 5:60?

5:60   Say: "Shall I inform you of worse than this as a punishment from God? Those whom God cursed and became angry at them, and He made from them apes and [wal-khanāzīra] and servants of evil. Those have a worse place and are more astray from the right path."

And what of the word walaḥma? Look at 2:259 and 23:14.

2:259 Or the one who passed through a town which had become ruins. He said: "How can God possibly revive this after it had died?" So God put him to death for one hundred calendar years, then He resurrected him. He said: "How long have you stayed here?" He said: "I have stayed here a day or part of a day." He said: "No, you have stayed here for one hundred calendar years! Look at your food and drink, they have not changed, but look at your donkey! And We will make you a sign for the people; and look at the bones how We let them arise, then We cover them with [laḥman]." So when it was clear to him what happened, he said: "I now know that God is capable of all things!"

23:14 Then We created the seed into an embryo, then We created the embryo into a fetus, then We created the fetus into bone, then We covered the bone with [laḥman], then We brought forth a new creation. So glory be to God, the best of creators.


I can understand from an interpretation view instead of a translation view, but 2:173 seems to be literal and not allegorical. Walahma refers to flesh and l-khinzīri refers to swine.

I love the distinction between flesh of swine and "all things swine" because it means no hardship in avoiding lard or gelatin.

ALLAH knows best.
 
:peace:

~Abdul-Hadi

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