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When I clicked on the website: http://www.quran4peace.org/,   Got a message that the account has been suspended. 

What's up with that? 


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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: Rashad Khalifa
« on: July 30, 2013, 08:51:09 AM »
I am not sure why the need for a messenger.  We already have the message.

I don't understand what is so complicated about the following: 

2:62....surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Nazarenes, and the Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear upon them, nor shall they grieve.." 


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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: Rashad Khalifa
« on: July 14, 2013, 06:34:02 PM »
khalil,

i am surprised you didn't call me the devil.  >:D

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings from Morocco
« on: July 14, 2013, 01:03:49 PM »
 :welcome: 

Good to have you join.  We are an interesting bunch which if you have not discovered already.   Just letting you know that here you will find messengers, crusaders, saviors,  their followers.  Still waiting for a prophet to come..... 

All in all, we are a typical family here: dysfunctional at best  ;D

 :group:




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Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings from Morocco
« on: July 14, 2013, 12:54:58 PM »
Peace Sajda,

I've spent every summer in Morocco during my childhood (i.e. until I turned 21). Every summer; three weeks Tetouan, two weeks Midar and three more weeks Tetouan. Miss those days. I haven't been back since 2004. I've been told it has changed a lot.

Two round-trip tickets Leeds Bradford - Tetouan. What do you say?
:sun:
Abdelilah


So sajda, what do you say?  My vote: yes.   :)




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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: Rashad Khalifa
« on: July 14, 2013, 11:17:03 AM »
Salaam.

Whoa fantastic rebuttal, my friend!

But what do you mean by the phrase that I made in bold and color above?
Kassim Ahmad? Actually I know him but I'm just curious about what you know about him :)

What I meant was, RK is not like other persons who exposed the truths about hadiths.  I mentioned kassim Ahmad as an example of such person.  I don't know much about kassim Ahmed besides that he is from Malaysia and he wrote the book: hadith a re-evaluation, which I cannot recall how I came across in the mid 1990's.  It was a time when I was questioning, coming to reject hadiths.    Reading kassim Ahmad's book was very much enlightening.  It is a good read.


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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: Rashad Khalifa
« on: July 14, 2013, 06:33:45 AM »
We humans are imperfect...

But, on the other hand, God always used humans to be His messengers (despite how imperfect they were)...

Nobody should claim righteousness @justamuslim, none of us! It is for God to decide that.

For myself, I rely on God alone, I've never met Moses or Muhammad or Rashad or anyone of them, so, I do not care whether they were messengers of true God or not, I rely on God alone.

I try to put my ego aside, so God can decide what to do with me, and I pray that He does with me as He pleases because we humans haven't got a clue about anything concerning the deepest mysteries of God!

Moses killed a man (as seems to be reported) but he was the only prophet or messenger who spoke directly to God! Since he brought the monotheism and the Torah, nobody ever thinks of him as a murderer, but as the greatest prophet who ever lived! Why? Because both Xtianity and Islam were born and grew from the Torah...

So, you see, it is not the personality, or the ego of a person of the prophet or messenger that should interest us, but the message delivered through him from God.

Concentrate on God...

All the prophets/messengers were not perfect but they were muttaqeens/momeens.  Assuming that the translation is accurate regarding moses, he thought he was killing an enemy to which he repented feeling very remorseful.  He was not defensive justifying or denying of his actions. 

 Surely, you cannot compare what Moses did to what RK did being alone in a room with 16 year old girl half naked and a judge finding enough evidence to be charged of sexual assault.   

I can understand why RK followers who believe in his messengership would want to divert attention from what RK did, minimizing his actions, taking on a defensive tone wanting to silence people like myself.   

RK was not just a person who came to reject hadiths.  RK did not just preach God alone but he made the claim that he was messenger of God and removed 2 verses from he Koran.  BIG difference.  And let's not lose sight of that. 

You know, contrary to popular belief satan is not all bad.  Satan does help people but his goal is to lead people astray and which is what happened with RK.   If RK just stopped at telling people to reject hadiths and follow Koran alone, we would not be having this discussion.  Could care less if RK was a womanizing pervert for that matter as he would have been just a person exposing the truth about hadiths - no different than others like kassim Ahmed.   What RK did was a major disservice to the world by claiming to be messenger and deleting 2 verses from the Koran as it didn't fit HIS code 19.

Putting all else aside, as God said not to follow something that you cannot verify yourself.   In order for something to be accepted as a fact, there needs to be an independent verification of RK's code 19 claim.  Has anyone verified his work?

Did it occur that may be God knew there will come a person that satan will influence.  Would discover code 19 and hence made 2 verses not fit this code 19?  Wouldn't surprise me if someone down the road make some other discovery and tossed out other verses in the Koran if the verses didn't fit and made claims of messengership.   Ego and arrogance is what made Iblis disobey God. 

My hats off to satan as he is most clever, hardworking, never resting being!   

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: :: Ramadhan Fasting or .....? ::
« on: July 13, 2013, 03:18:28 PM »
Peace justamuslim,

Thanks.
As per my understanding the usage of AL is given in this thread. Please follow, it may be helpful, inshaAllah. The word sauman used in 19:26 simply means "a fast".

You are welcome.
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path :pr
mmKhan

will be looking into it.  Thanks. 

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: :: Ramadhan Fasting or .....? ::
« on: July 13, 2013, 03:11:29 PM »
Peace,

Is 2:133 helpful for you, inshaAllah?


May Allah bless you :pr
mmKhan

Witness = being alive, present and seeing something yourself.   

 it does not make sense to say "so whoever Shahida among you alshahra" ?...whoever is alive and present among you...  Makes absolutely no sense to me. 

This whole verse 2:183-188 - how it is translated just does not make sense to me.  I have been trying for the past 20+ years.   




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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: Rashad Khalifa
« on: July 13, 2013, 02:36:30 PM »
Hawk99,

Are you a follower or supporter or believer of RK?   Do you believe that RK is messenger of God?  I don't want to assume.   

 :peace:


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