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SaLam Phoenix

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12. The universe is the "kitaab" (this goes along with the unthinkable idea of a symbolic "Quran"


Thats the problem with taking things to be symbolic. It can mean anything. Usually something which suits the understanding of the user.

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9. Pakistan Killed England in the test series.


Loooooollllllll. I miseed that in Ayman's article but did hear on SkyNews loooll

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Salat & Zakat (The Contact & Purification) / salat is definately meditation
« on: December 09, 2005, 10:31:38 PM »
SaLam Phoenix

Bruv when i fast, im thinking of food. Not meditation  :wink:

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General Issues / Questions / Wife Beatgin
« on: December 09, 2005, 10:30:43 PM »
SaLam Taj

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Is there a difference between 'cheat' and 'betray'!?


Cheating implies having sex wth another man. While betrayal emplies betraying. So say for example, if i trusted my wife with my deepest secrets and she goes of to another man and laughs her head off about my secrets, then i have been betrayed. This is just one example. There are many ways she can betray.

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Why would you shoot her if she did this or did that?


Becoz i will tell her before we marry what i will do. So putting it quite simply, she will have it comming if she ever betrays me or cheats on me. I expect the same from her. If i ever cheat on her or betray her, i expect to be shot as well. So its will be a mutual understanding.

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Do you really not intend to marry, ever!?  ::8)


Yes. What about you Taj, do you plan on marrying?

BTW, i now weigh 18 stones (115 kg). Inshallah soon i wil be 20 stones (130 kG)
:D

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General Issues / Questions / Disturbing questions
« on: December 09, 2005, 07:58:07 PM »
SaLaM Leyla

Im glad your opinions are different from mine. Peace  :D

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General Issues / Questions / Disturbing questions
« on: December 09, 2005, 07:39:53 PM »
SaLaM Leyla

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Cameras can be manipulated. In many modern countries cameras are not allowed as a tool for evidence in the legislation for good reasons!


And the people giving testimoney cant?

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Camera proof if crap proof when not supported by other evidence, that?s the reasoning in these countries.


WEll, camera is suposed to be the eyes and the ears. What other evidence are you looking for?

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Furthermore, let?s again not forget the consistency of the whole surah 24 which stresses privacy. When 4 witnesses see the crime this is a crime outside privacy. A camera would not fulfill this idea!!


Just becoz a wife is have sex with her garderner in her bedroom dont make it right. Privacy has nothing to do with this.

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Rather it would in many cases probably be against the quranic command to respect other people?s privacy.


the privacy of people to kill, murder, rape and molest in their own house? You think God cares where these crimes are commited?

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Your reasoning does not apply here.


Neither does yours.

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Jaxal, I respect your personal believes but I can not share them. They are not consistent with my own experiences.


I respect yours too.

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Hitler was elected through a democratical process!
Bush was not truly elected but still became president!


People make mistakes. It is in our nature.

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What?s so great about democracy, again ????????


Quran advocates democracy.

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General Issues / Questions / Wife Beatgin
« on: December 09, 2005, 07:29:41 PM »
SaLaM PM

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unfair? how many incidents of physical abuse by women over men as opposed to men over women can u quote?


I cant quote becoz men dont report them. There is no "men internation for abused husbands". But it doesnt mean that its not happening. it happens in all countries.

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And btw, please do take the trouble of mentioning this vital info to any girl u intend to marry, any time, coz, trust me, she would definitely be glad to know beforehand


I have done this. Loooll. I was quite honest about it.  :)

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those women should be body builders of some kind to be able to physically fight and win over a man.


Not neccessarily. Some men are just submissive by nature.

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General Issues / Questions / Wife Beatgin
« on: December 09, 2005, 07:09:10 PM »
SaLaM sawtooth

There is a great movie called "Men Dont Cry". Have you seen it?

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General Issues / Questions / Disturbing questions
« on: December 09, 2005, 07:08:19 PM »
SaLaM Leyla

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Adultery only becomes a punishable crime in the quran when seen outside of privacy, virtually in public, by at least 4 witnesses (read 24/4).


Again, if the Quran had come down in this age, its rules would be different. For example, now we can catch any such activity on cameras. In this case, we dont need the 4 witness as the Quran sujjests.

Also, this makes a good point to those who support religious legislation. For them, only evidence submitable in court would be the testimony of 4 people who have witniessed the act. Where as in democracy, it will be agreed up by MAJORITY that a recording will be admisable in the court.  :D

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Discuss Latest World News / Air Marshal Kills Passenger, Citing Threat
« on: December 09, 2005, 07:05:17 PM »
SaLaM ewo

No doubt its a difficult position. If i was in that air marshal's place, i would have taken the shot too.

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General Issues / Questions / Wife Beatgin
« on: December 09, 2005, 07:04:17 PM »
SaLaM PM

OFCOURSE! i agree. SOme men are also asking for it. And women DO beat up their husbands. HAve you heard anyone woman being called a husband beater? No. Its only the men who have to go through that. So in that aspect, its a bit unfair. But regardless, no one should be hitting the wife or the husband. There are other ways to deal with that stuff.


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And anyways, Thank God, u didnt suggest shooting the women who supposedly ASk FOR IT.


Loooll . If my wife ever cheats on me, i will shoot her. IF she betrays me, i will shoot her. So its a good thing that i have decided NOT to marry. I am doing some women a great favour  :D

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