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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: oldest fragments of Quran found
« on: July 22, 2015, 11:37:54 AM »
Hope they find a complete one from that period.

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Science / Re: 20 september 617
« on: August 09, 2013, 04:56:26 PM »
Interesting. Worth while investigating.

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Discuss Latest World News / Re: Trouble in Turkey!
« on: June 27, 2013, 05:11:48 PM »
The Debt Slaves Are Waking Up - Real Reason for Brazil, Turkey, Occupy Protests

The ongoing unrest right across the globe that started some two years ago with the Arab spring which sparked the Occupy movements in many western nations and most recently came to Turkey and this past week Brazil is a manifestation of what amounts to the worlds debt slaves waking up to the realisation of the truth that they do not have any real power to decide what happens to them in everyday life.
 
The Brazilian and Turkish demonstrators put forward a confusing array of differing reasons as to why they are protesting from the rising price of goods and services, lack of effective education and health services, and against the prevalence of corruption amongst politicians that purport to represent them. However the truth is that the people are seeking freedom from a state of perpetual slavery, as slavery of the masses has continuously existed since before the dawn of civilisation, where the few elite have always controlled the actions of the majority of over 90% towards their bidding and in their service.

The realisation amongst many demonstrators is that Democracy is just another illusory mechanism to keep the slaves sedated into accepting their servile state of existence and in truth that there is nothing that the demonstrators will achieve as peoples of the Arab spring have discovered, that in the end nothing changes, virtually the same elite in countries such as Egypt still yield virtually all of the power.

The vast majority of the populations in the west perceive themselves to be free, but in reality are just as much slaves to the elite as those that demonstrate on the streets of Turkey, Brazil and elsewhere, it's just that the mechanisms of slavery are different in the West, where here we are subject to state education that puts us on a conveyor belt of unquestioning servitude to the whims of the elite, controlled and governed through the illusion's of freedom from democracy, economic freedom which in reality is debt slavery, elitist mainstream media programming, taxation and the police and security forces and off course religion, all of which are mechanistic manifestations of the God Gene in action to control every aspect of ones behaviour whilst giving one the illusion of personal free will.
 
The most recent example of the mechanisms for control were revelations of the the all prevailing surveillance that ALL individuals are subjected to as the world wide web truly amounts to a web spun by intelligence agencies to capture every aspect of ordinary peoples lives that they seem to share with one another regardless of the consequences to individuals for instance with dictatorships as was the case between documented dealings between MI5 and Gaddaffi and Mubarak's brutal secret police agencies resulting in torture and untold number of deaths.

The response by the public representatives of the elite is to say that those who are innocent have nothing to fear from such surveillance. When the truth is that the apparatus of the state WILL use the mass of information gathered against any individual that it deems to be a threat in ANY way, that is anyone who campaigns or demonstrates against the interests of members of the elite as the breaking news of the parents of the murdered black teenager Steven Lawrence in the UK were subject to an organised Police smear campaign through means of covert surveillance and infiltration of the families campaign for justice for their murdered son.

As ever Brit's are second class citizens as to the degree to which British people are under state surveillance courtesy not only of the rampant phone and internet surveillance but by far having the most CCTV cameras per capita that the US and Chinese secret police states can only dream of replicating.

The truth as I have often warned of many times during the years is that the intelligence agencies are arms of the elite, and that politicians and democracies are merely fronts for the elite to control as most of the population are taught in state schools to become docile debt slaves in the service of their elite masters.

Read on...

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article41075.html

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Discuss Latest World News / Re: Trouble in Turkey!
« on: June 25, 2013, 03:53:52 PM »
It would seem Turkey is financially in a better place than it was 11 years ago. But at what cost?

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Discuss Latest World News / Re: Trouble in Turkey!
« on: June 23, 2013, 04:00:30 PM »
I just can't help but think that all this is some sort of pre-arranged scenario! It's reported that Tayyip Erdogan visited Whitehouse to meet President Bush about five times before he was even an MP in parliament. It's also strange that being convicted for crimes for stirring trouble in Turkey and been band from being an MP, a deal was struck with the left wing CHP party to over turn this and thus allowing him to be prime minister shortly after getting back into parliament. It is also well known in TUrkey if not outside of Turkey that AKP buys votes by giving jobs, coal, food parcels etc to people in Turkey. It is also well known that when he has his party public meetings he provides free transport for people to come from all corners of Turkey. Some say they get paid to come and some say they have to or they will lose their jobs. It's all a bit too fishy for me! Very big stink!

Peace

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Discuss Latest World News / Re: Trouble in Turkey!
« on: June 20, 2013, 04:12:17 PM »
It's suppose to be a secular country!

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Discuss Latest World News / Re: Trouble in Turkey!
« on: June 18, 2013, 04:16:26 PM »
Selam

There is some truth to this, I have also heard the same.

Peace

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Discuss Latest World News / Trouble in Turkey!
« on: June 17, 2013, 04:18:47 PM »
Selam

It's strange that one by one the people are fighting/rising up against oppression/dictators in Muslim countries. Is there a pattern to all this? Recently Turkey has joined this category. What do people make of Prime minister Erdogan? A dictator or the next caliphate? Is he genuine or has he been placed there by USA for a particular motive? Is there a big plan for the area that the Muslims have been blinded to?
It?s very strange, something is going on. The unprecedented control of the media, army, courts and police by the government does not happen over night! There is a plan!
Would be nice to hear some views.

Peace

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Pazuzu/badr society's books
« on: February 20, 2013, 11:56:54 AM »
Please do complete what has been started. It will be a shame not to.

P.S. how do we get the books?

Peace

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