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Hi, I was wondering if there is any Quranic Verses that counters the notion of Fish being Haram because most of the people do not slaughter it when they fish them out of water? thus making them die from strangulation? Also, since they are not Slaughtered, The Name of God is not mentioned during the time they died. What do you think?

are you ready to give up on your favourite seafood? or any other kinds of food? since in the food industry today, most of the food will come with some form of fish ingredient. Either to help with it's coloring or taste,etc.. 

*Edit* I know there is an old thread regarding this. But I wanted to know if there is a verse that actually allowed fishes/seafood to be eaten without slaughter or the name of God being mentioned upon the time of it's death.

I'm not in the uk.. but I'll see what I an do.

thanks all! I'll try to look up on the things you guys suggested! salam!

nevermind. already found one. thanks! I'll post my questions here if I have any other questions regarding hadiths. salam!

thanks es. any site offering hadith in it's original arabic form?

is there any books  I can get? any reputable writer that is not bias? I'm reading wikipedia a bit. but I'm afraid it won't be enough.. any place I should go?

I have so much questions I want to ask and things I want to learn. anyone knows deeply about this science?

Salaam,

1) Thanks for pointing out Quran Corpus  I am familair with it 
2) I hope you excluded me 
3) I am not sure about that, sometimes it's better not to know certain "knowledge".

Salaam,
Bender

1. no problem
2.nope you are not excluded. everyone should learn
3.let's try to understand as much as we can. mwahahahahaha.
peace

You are not alone with your confusion. 

An atheist cannot "reject" a god.
You, a theist, believe that evidence for the existence of god exists.
An atheist does not. That's all.
So an atheist can't reject something for which he sees no evidence.


I personally have a problem with the concept that making love to a woman should result in eternal punishment, torture and pain, when we were both consenting adults and only did something very natural. I also have a problem with the concept of choosing and selecting who gets rewarded, based on a whim. That is my personal attitude.


Free will is different. This is a logical problem. You can't have free will and omniscience together. Also, an atheist also has, what is called "free will". So what's the difference between having choices and being able to do what one wants and "free will"? None. So "free will" as such does not exist.


Atheists don't make claims, they react to religious statements. Is there any proof a person is "bad" due to the influence of god or satan? No. Humans are good, neutral or bad. By nature.

Religions are human-based. Humans have learned over time what is good and bad, or what is beneficial or detrimental. Which is why we have laws and a society which dictates the norms, often based on those religions. Living in this society I am governed by those rules and face the consequence if I break them. If a man rapes a woman, the DNA can be used to provide evidence and the man is punished. What does the Koran use? The testimony of four others and if none exist the man can swear 4 times himself. No further evidence required.

Now to the point where you pose excellent questions, in my eyes. What happens if a criminal gets away? An atheist can only hope that fairness and the conscience prevails and that the human dominates and faces the consequences. If not that person gets away without punishment. In Islam, the person also gets away. But other Muslims hope that the criminal will be punished by Allah, who knows about this. But then, he already knew this criminal would be a criminal during creation and created the criminal anyway.

Now the issue crops up where a believer who is a bad person will be rewarded and the non-believer who is a good person will be punished. THAT's where the problems creep in. What do you think about this?

If I have misunderstood something, please correct me. I welcome any constructive criticism and try and learn what people here are teaching me.

hi StopS, could you point me to the number of that verse and chapter?  thanks.
this is just my understanding which may or may not be wrong.
Allah reveals the messengers for a specific people to a specific time and place. for example, at the time of Adam the rules and way to conduct things might be different.  the Quran was given to Prophet Muhammad 1400 years ago, at the time DNA testing is non existent. therefore people have to practise whatever method that is best. now with DNA testing available I think there is no problem utilizing this method.

Why is it that an atheist will support punishment for rape, murder or destruction of property and lives,  yet seem to have tremendous issues if God punishes people for these same wrong doing?   To an atheist do consequences of ones action hold true only in this life?   What about those who get away, then what?   If I cause injustice, pain, bloodshed and I get away with it in this life, then I just get away?  But is it fair that the person who didn't get away gets punished in this life but the one who gets away doesn't?   Does fairness and justice not apply or matter to an atheist?   

hi,I'm not an atheist but let me try and answer some of your questions.
1.  I believe what they are having trouble with is the idea of an eternal punishment. or things like flogging the fornicator.
(head to my reply above to read my understanding on the matter.)

2.
the word atheist is used to describe a person not believing in a Creator. therefore he does not believe in the Hereafter. a Person either Theist or Atheist would all agree on the idea of "Action = consequence" action equals consequence.. but since the Atheist doesn't believe in the consequence or punishment of the hereafter then yes, indeed he do believe that after death the person that committed the crime will get away free. people comes in all different shapes and colours with different way of viewing things.
if a person doesn't believe in the punishment of the hereafter it does not mean that fairness or justice don't matter to him/her.

lastly I would say, All knowledge is with Allah.
Peace.

P.S, I'm sorry I got a habit of replying to topics that I don't fully know about. I haven't finish reading the Quran and I hope not to represent the Book of Allah in the wrong way. so please, to anyone that read my replies.  read the Quran step by step to really know what is written.