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Forum Suggestions / Re: Can Not Access my Inbox
« on: April 10, 2012, 07:51:22 AM »
It's not working now, at least for me.


Forum Suggestions / Forum in Swedish?
« on: April 10, 2012, 07:50:06 AM »
How are you all?

Wasn't before a forum in Swedish? I can't find it now. Is it still available? I hope so :)

Thank you!


if you let me interfere a bit,

obey implies order, the couple order/obedience means one is the chief and the other is the subordinate, subordinate  means low-level, secondary, subaltern, terms that fit to the army or to the organization chart of a company for instance. Some of you think they fit to marriage also. I don't.
I don't know what the quran says, I read your different versions. Perhaps the myth version of the opening post is the true one, I can't know.
Appart form that, I wonder why ordering is so enjoyed by many, men and women.




With simultaneous translation english-spanish-catalan

In case you are interested

Peace Wakas, all

I will deal with it by informing them (hopefully in an alternative way). They can then compare good info with bad info, rather than just having bad info with nothing to compare it to.

First, they have to be interested in the topic, for any reason, perhaps a new friend, or bumping into a website like this one, or a sunni site, or some news on the media, something that attracts the attention and leads to the interest, because a lot of people know nothing about Islam, as my case, I just knew what I had learnt at school that had nothing to do with what I have been discovering later, from the day I realised muslims believed in hell, and that discovery prompted me to investigate more.

As a non muslim, my main misconceptions were the women subjugation to men, and the mistrust of muslims towards non muslims.

Peace  jonny_k,
thanks for the link.

Peace Wakas
it's ok, it's me who is late!

I agree with Tay, nice analogy, and clear. Nothing to oppose really, you trust on that end, when the story is completed, because of AQ.
I see that end as a hope (of yours) not as something real. But I understand your approach.

Thanks for the answers!

What is the nature of God? / Re: What about all the bad things that happen?
« on: February 19, 2008, 02:48:14 AM »
Peace back, Wakas

yes, yes, I understand your points if I see them from your perspective, except, perhaps, the logic point, but never mind, I can move on from the logic thing.

I meant, ok, the reason is the free choice... and? What does that explain about the God's consent? God still allows it, so, it is not explanatory, we are at the same starting point!

If you find any other answer, please, let me/us know, I see you continue studying.

What is the nature of God? / Re: What about all the bad things that happen?
« on: February 12, 2008, 08:51:29 AM »
Peace, Wakas

To remove evil acts, as I have been saying, would mean we must also remove logic (in the world) and free-choice (in people).
If we did remove these things, this life/test becomes invalid/pointless

Let me a comment.

Free choice. The explanation of evil acts because of the free choice is the usual explanation given by Catholicism, I see that it is the same in Islam, but I don't find it as an answer, because it neither justifies the unfairness suffered by many, nor clarifies the God's aquiescence.

Logic, what does it have to do with evil acts?

The test. If life is a test, and some people fail it by commiting evil acts against others, what about those others? You say regarding this 
there must be a counter-balance to the equation. Something which sets it right... this is where God comes in.
could you give an example of what you mean here?

General Issues / Questions / Re: Hi all, I'm new to the forum
« on: November 05, 2007, 03:04:48 AM »
Peace, well if you tell them you're muslim, they'll inevitably put you in the same basket as hadith followers. Non muslims do not really understand what quran alone.

I understand there are muslims that assert the only source of law is the quran and not the other sources like tradition, hadiths, I don't think I am the only one in the world, and I don't think either it is complicated to understand.


Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Hitting One's Wife.
« on: August 27, 2007, 03:19:27 AM »
Thank you, Samia.

In Lisanul 3arab, volume 1:
وضرب الفحل الناقة يضربها ضراباً: نكحها. قال سيبويه: ضربها الفحل ضراباً كالنكاح
Translation: The camel (daraba) the she camel: had intercourse with it (naka7a).

Sibawaih says: Daraba (the she camel) dirab (participle) is anological to nika7 (linguistic patterns).

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