well to be sure, he was just not that intelligence to me. What i think of him is just his pride is too much to not see the flaws in it. that's the problem with sunni muslim so they were not intelligence at all.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: Neptin on January 09, 2021, 01:11:20 AMdo you mean molded like this
Peace
I'll just share a couple of verses and what I think about them.
55:14
He created man of clay like the potter's.
The reference to pottery here gives an impression the clay was molded into Adam's figure.
I also see there is disagreement on 15:26 translation.
Word for word translation: And Verily We created man from/of salsalin from/of hama-in masnunin.
Note the transliterated words; salsalin, hama-in, masnunin. Salsalin is clear, dried & sounding clay like pottery(55:4) and hama-in is clear too, mud - mix of water/soil(clay).
And then we come to masnunin, all kinds of translations; altered, molded, fashioned, aged, transmuted. Which is right? What does masnunin mean?
OK, I'll just consult Edward Lane's Arabic English dictionary.
http://lisaan.net/search/%D9%85%D8%B3%D9%86%D9%88%D9%86?cat=50
Going by these, it is more likely that the right translation of "masnunin" is mechanically manipulated mud(clay + water), which may be akin to molding.
In fact, here is further insight from Qur'an.
15:28-29: And when your Lord said to the Angels, Indeed I will create a man of clay, from black mud altered. So, when I have fashioned him and breath into him of my spirit, then fall down to him prostrating.
5:110: Oh Jesus, remember my favor upon you .... when I strengthened you with the spirit .... when you made from clay like the shape of bird by My permission, then you breath into it and it became a bird by My permission.
Here, there seem to be parallel between Jesus creating a bird from molded clay, and God's creation of Adam from clay.
Of course, I might be wrong. But the impression I get from the Qur'an is that wet clay was molded into Adam's statue, then God bestowed life upon the statue and it became man.
Quote from: reel on January 09, 2021, 02:58:10 PM
With verses on evolution, God gives us the message that we should be civilized. We can't go around interpreting his laws in a way that they cause oppression. Also it would be weird to not see that each human body is growing up.
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