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Introduce Yourself / Re: I am a former Tanakh Jew
« on: October 26, 2019, 11:17:17 AM »
Thank you for your reply.  I think I know what you're saying: continue in Judaism if I've read right.

Thing is, Tanakh doesn't say what happens after death, what happens to Gentiles (I said the previous two in a previous post, but I didn't clarify too well; sorry about that), why God needs to repent, why God needs to rest, who Messiah is, who 'that Prophet' is, along with other contradictions and ambiguous passages or not saying something on certain topics at all.

I think I read in the Christian Bible that the Jews had 'Elijah', 'the Messiah' and 'the Prophet', three figures who were meant to appear in succession.  I'm not a Christian, but it could be a reference to Jonathan the Baptiser, Jesus and Muhammad (pbuh).

I am an Ashkenazi-Levite Jew, and in my experience and to my knowledge, there is no 'pure' Jewish 'race' or nation.

Ultimately though, the two things everyone have in common are being human and descended from Adam and Eve.

Jews have DNA from many nations as we were scattered throughout the world, as indeed are many peoples.  Judaism is a religion that can be practiced by Jew or Gentile; Gentiles can convert to Judaism, and are seen as fully Jewish, but Jews are not strictly speaking one nation, as we are a mix of many and all nations.  I am sure that many Jews are descended from the Khazarim, but Jews are a mix, and not a singular 'race'.

Sorry if I can't reply in this thread; I see a box at the top saying something.  Sorry also if my post isn't clear, correct or is insulting, none of which are my intention to cause.

Introduce Yourself / Re: I am a former Tanakh Jew
« on: October 25, 2019, 02:07:40 PM »
Thank you all for your welcomes, and sorry for the late reply.

I agree that I am still a Jew, but don't identify as such publically.

Sola-scriptura forms of religion make more sense than the traditional religions, such as Tanakh/Karaite Judaism and Quranist (sorry if I got it wrong) Islam are truly sola-scriptura. Traditions aren't mentioned in either Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) or the Qur'an (from what I've read).  Tanakh has many positives, but also has many contradictions, as I said before.  Also the question has to be asked: what about Gentiles, where do they go when they die?  There's also an unanswered question in Tanakh, which is 'what happens when you die?'.  Two questions referring to the same overall topic.  Christianity has an answer to those questions, but the Christians don't keep kosher (or halal) and it said in the Christian testament that there would be a true prophet after Jesus, as Jesus said 'beware false prophets', so he implies there will also be a true prophet, who is Muhammad (pbuh).

I feel drawn to Islam, but the belief in the hadith makes me question the hadith, the sunnah, as they are the traditions of man, not the Word of God.  While some of it may be useful, the Word of God takes precedence over the word of man.

I look forward to reading more so if I have any questions I will post them, and please forgive me if they aren't worded right.

Introduce Yourself / I am a former Tanakh Jew
« on: October 17, 2019, 10:58:46 AM »

My name is Mordy.

I am a former Tanakh Jew, basically a sola-scriptura Jew, similar to a Karaite Jew.  What that meant was that I viewed Tanakh (the Hebrew Bible) as the sole infallible ‘Word of God’.

My Tanakh Jewish faith fell apart back in March this year when I continued to find contradictions within the Biblical text and with recorded history.

This meant I could no longer be a Jew, non-rabbinic or rabbinic, and it also meant I couldn’t be a Christian either.  To me the scripture of a religion should stand alone, tradition-less and free of opinion.  In the last verse of Judges it says not to make our own opinion (as Karaites do – they say ‘search the scripture well’ and only to go with the weight of evidence, but personal opinion, grounded in Biblical exegesis, is what they say to do), yet the rabbinic opinions in the ‘oral law’ contradict the Written Law, so both rabbinic and non-rabbinic Judaism was out of the question.

Islam is much closer to Judaism than Christianity is, plus Tanakh and Karaite Jews pray by full prostration, albeit in the direction of the Western Wall in Jerusalem.

I am happy to be here, and I will continue reading the Qur’an, but the hadith are traditions on top of scripture, so a Muslim sola-scriptura movement would be more appealing.  Sorry if I got the wrong impression or you found that offensive.

Thank you for reading.

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