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for me quran is a good news, a tips, a guide, a book, an info
actually quran did not order anybody ( like a master order an employee or slave )
its just a book with a guide from god for human being about how universe work and about all the doors that exsisted in this universe and the other universe/dimension and how those doors work.

*do not say haram, not allowed, prohibited if god didnt stated it.
*do not say and attributed an order to god or prophet "god or prophet order you" if that wasnt stated.

A.god only tell an order (of procedure and guideline limitation) of how things work with the doors in this universe, how to open that door of "escalation of ur soul"
included here:
1. stated deed of escalation very recomended and allowed, halal, not prohibited,
only god judge punish or reward

B.god only tell an order (of procedure and guideline limitation) of how things work with the doors in this universe, how to open that door of "degenertion of ur soul",
included here:
1. stated deeds of degeneration very unrecomended and unallowed, haram, prohibited,
with god and human judge n punish or reward
2. stated deeds of degeneration very unrecomended and unallowed, haram, prohibited,
only god judge n punish or reward
3. stated deeds of degeneration unrecomended but allowed, halal, not prohibited,
only god judge n punish or reward

C.god did not stated it, god and human who will judge, punish or reward it
sometimes in form of human agreement
included here :
1.but you believe in ur own self best understanding if the deed will escalate ur soul,
only god judge reward n punish
2.but you believe in ur own self best understanding if the deed will degenerate ur soul,
only god judge reward n punish
3.but you believe in ur own self best understanding if the deed will escalate ur soul,
human agreement judge reward or punish, god will judge reward or punsih
4.but you believe in ur own self best understanding if the deed will degenerate ur soul,
human agreement judge reward or punish, god will judge reward or punsih

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0*quranic based, please dont bring hadist as a based of ur opinion
1*this topic of discussion will be conducted with open mindedness of science, so no taboo here
2*dont consider your self as the most right
3*dont judge or consider other people are lower in knowledge than you
4*this topic is controlled and arranged by the maker of this topic,
do not force something tobe put on the summary page / first page,
its the solely the topic's creator discression
5*and may god guide us n bless us with knowledge,

A.Marriage
what is marriage

1.general guideline procedure

2.general guideline limitation

3.ungenral/ future issue guideline procedure n limitation

B.Sex act n Relationship
what is sex

1.general guideline procedure

2.general guideline limitation

3.ungenral/ future issue guideline procedure n limitation

None of the two ayas you mention authorize what you say.

4.3 tells people to arrange for the marriage of those willing to the mothers of the orphans, no to the orphans

33.4 where in this aya do you see any talk of marriage to adopted son or to anything else. It is nto talking about marriage.

If anybody goes around reading things that are ot there, o wonder that anything is obligatory or prohibited or allowed at will, you just have to say that it says what it does not say and there you go.

I am a bit dumbfounded

Salaam

4:3 nothing there talk about anybody mother, u make things up

33:4 this ayat says about marry mother of the orphan,
but if u didnt marry their mother and u only adopted them, they are not considered as a son or daughter of you,

then my self asking, wait.. so my adopted son is not considered by god as my son or daughter if i didnt marry their mother?
wait a second.. then who will he/she be to me?

33:5
Call them by [the names of] their fathers; it is more just in the sight of Allah . But if you do not know their fathers - then they are [still] your brothers in religion and those entrusted to you. And there is no blame upon you for that in which you have erred but [only for] what your hearts intended. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

they are considered as "brother and sister in religion" like you n ur wife are brother n sister in religion but not sibling.

it says what it does not say??
so what do u think about marrying ur adopted son or daughter, is that allowed or not?

Please cite that aya qhere the qur'an says such a thing.

Salaam

Please cite that aya qhere the qur'an says such a thing.

Salaam

3:4
And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].

33:4
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. And He has not made your wives whom you declare unlawful your mothers. And he has not made your adopted sons your [true] sons. That is [merely] your saying by your mouths, but Allah says the truth, and He guides to the way.

even marrying your adopted son or daughter (which god consider our adopted son or daughter not as our children, but just as a friend in our care) is allowed, but like polygamy, divorce, beer, gamble,
its not haram by god, but it will degrade your degree as human.

its not haram but i will abstain from all of those deeds to escalate my degree as human in god's sight