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Off-Topic / Re: Is it okay to get cats fixed
« on: June 08, 2019, 11:07:52 AM »
peace hawk,
never had any pet in my whole life,

So apparently you speak from inexperience, while I speak from experience.
I've had both neutered/spayed animals and non neutered/spayed animals.
But I digress, your inexperience is more valuable than my experience.   ;D

hmm u can also domesticate a lion or tiger he will watch tv with you .. some people does it too..



no you cannot domesticate a lion or tiger   :brickwall: they can be trained
but not domesticated.  Do not go to a pet shop and ask for a lion or tiger.   :&

dogs are beneficial along with horses, camel, mules and donkey..
dogs help catching the criminals by sniff sense..
dogs help protecting us as watchman..
dogs help us in  hunting too.. so you are comparing dog with cat,, really  :rotfl: :rotfl: (what happened with your logic brother lol)
even some eskimos used dog as their transport..


uh you forgot cats remove rodents from houses. 

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Off-Topic / Re: Is fish really halal?
« on: June 07, 2019, 06:47:22 PM »
Peace Amra94, this is what you said before, suffocation was about the fish.

It's cruel to catch a fish and let it suffocate to death.

peace Amra94,

You can’t do slaughter for fish like in animals/birds.

Agreed

salaam,

How did you reach that conclusion? If it [remembering God's name] is for (just) before eating, it would be like "Eat in the name of your Lord" imho,


Peace Mohammed I simply quoted ayat 6:121 and pointed
out that the word slaughter does not appear there and that
your interpretation is yours.

So, don’t you care the way in which animal being slaughtered?

Yeah I care.


 God's name should be mentioned over the animals before slaughter.

True



You say we should always be mindful of our Lord at all times, then, we should always be care about the way our Lord’s creations are treated. right?


I totally agree with you

I remember The Creator not only before eating but also while eating any food (if my mind isn't distracted)
I remember and wonder about Allah the way He designed/engineered the food for us which I am eating, for example if it’s an apple-its unique taste, texture, shape, colour, the way it grown etc. I enjoy it. And I thank my Lord for giving me an opportunity to experience this wonderful world. I was nothing worth mentioning before I came into existence.
And sometimes I wonder/remember the way He designed/engineered my mouth, tongue, teeth etc. the mechanism of chewing, digestion absorption and the mechanism of growth etc.

Excellent



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Off-Topic / Re: Is it okay to get cats fixed
« on: June 07, 2019, 06:15:37 PM »
 :!  Peace imrankhawaja from what experience are you speaking from,
are you a cat guardian, have you ever had a "fixed" cat, have you
had a non fixed cat? what perspective are you coming from


who are we to decide ? wild animals deserve to live like wild...

 imrankhawaja, my cat is not a wild but domesticated she watches TV.   :)


Quote from: imrankhawaja who are we to decide ? wild animals deserve to live like wild...

what if you cut the wings of bird

Why would we do such a thing?   :nope:



CAT belong to family of hunters like lion, leapords, tiger, panther, cheeta etc..

 ;D  being neutered doesn't stop a cat from hunting on the contrary spaying
has health benefits that safeguards the animal from diseases, fleas and other
dangers like fights or being killed by autos or being  attacked by dogs.

(same question from you) just apply it on yourself do you like someone do your neutring against your wish ?



by your logic we should not have seeing eye dogs because they are
neutered or spayed.  Let's not forget that military dogs are fixed.
Additionally those slave animals of 5:4 should be free.

 :rotfl:   :rotfl:  but seriously   :rotfl:   :hmm   killing animals and eating them
is ok, but neutering  :&  them is not   :rotfl:  OMG

..4:119 is not talking about your furniture lol

Yeah I know, my point was that 4:119 is about making sacred
that which is not like the cow or the slitting of the ears Imho.

Thanks good brother for taking time to read my nonsense.    :handshake:

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Off-Topic / Re: Is fish really halal?
« on: June 06, 2019, 01:15:57 PM »
salaam,

How did you reach that conclusion? If it [remembering God's name] is for (just) before eating, it would be like "Eat in the name of your Lord" imho,


I accept your opinion for your own understanding, however if
you would notice there is no word "slaughter" in the ayat.

salaam,
I understand 6:118,119 & 121 in such a way that 'remembering God's name' should happen/happening somewhere (far) before eating.

True, we should always be mindful of our lord at all times, submission
to our sustainer is the goal while walking, sitting, sleeping, and at all
other times.

I understand 6:118,119 & 121 in such a way that 'remembering God's name' should happen/happening somewhere (far) before eating.

6:118 "So eat from what God's name was remembered on it"/ "So eat from that on which the name of God has been remembered"
Note the Arabic mimmā


And why should you not eat of that upon which the name of Allah has been
mentioned while He has explained in detail to you what He has forbidden
you, excepting that to which you are compelled. And indeed do many lead
[others] astray through their [own] inclinations without knowledge. Indeed,
your Lord - He is most knowing of the transgressors.

                             :peace:

Since strangling livestock is forbidden does that mean suffocating them some other way is allowed?

Peace Amra94, no we are not to strangle or suffocate the livestock.   :nope:


[6:121] And do not eat of that upon which the name of Allah has not
been mentioned,


Yeah don't eat something without mentioning Allah.


And shrimp aren't fish but idk I've never had shrimp, they're bottom feeders. I personally don't consider them to be "good" things to eat.

Your personal diet is okay.

[6:145] Say: I do not find in that which has been revealed to me anything
forbidden for an eater to eat of except that it be what has died of itself, or
blood poured forth, or flesh of swine-- for that surely is unclean-- or that
which is a transgression, other than (the name of) Allah having been
invoked on it; but whoever is driven to necessity, not desiring nor
exceeding the limit, then surely your Lord is Forgiving, Merciful.

@ Amra94 and Mohammed do you remember Allah before eating
fruits, vegetables, snacks, when there is no meat involved?


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then why are you asking things what i believe in ?


Good brother that's what we do in a forum we give our opinion/beliefs.
 
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Off-Topic / Re: Is fish really halal?
« on: June 06, 2019, 07:22:13 AM »
It's cruel to catch a fish and let it suffocate to death. It's just like strangling

Peace Amra94, suffocating and strangling are not the same.

Another thing I mentioned about 5:3  is that you should say God's name when slaughtering an animal. 5:3 says it is forbidden to eat any animal which any name other than God's has been invoked. This clearly means you should mention God's name over the animals you kill. Why wouldn't this apply to fish?

[6:121] And do not eat of that upon which the name of Allah has not
been mentioned,


It says mention Allah's name before you eat, negating that the
eater has to be the slaughterer.

[16:14] And it is He who subjected the sea for you to eat from it tender
meat and to extract from it ornaments which you wear. And you see the
ships plowing through it, and [He subjected it] that you may seek
of His bounty; and perhaps you will be grateful.

Anyway how would you slaughter shrimp   :eat:

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Off-Topic / Re: Is it okay to get cats fixed
« on: June 06, 2019, 06:40:33 AM »


hairs will grow back at some time i guess so considering this thing compared to "Neutering" is indeed height of cruelty  :o

Peace imrankhawaja, whiskers should never be cut on a cat because
they are like antennae whereas "Neutering"  is beneficial to both cat
and guardian.



2 How u understand 4:119?

(4:119) And most certainly I will lead them astray and excite in them
vain desires, and bid them so that they shall slit the ears of the cattle,
and most certainly I will bid them so that they shall alter Allah's creation;
and whoever takes the Shaitan for a guardian rather than Allah
he indeed shall suffer a manifest loss.

We alter the Allah's creation all the time, (I like my furniture) some
alterations according to the context of  4:119 are for making sacred
that which is not like the cow or the slitting of the ears Imho.


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Off-Topic / Re: Is fish really halal?
« on: June 05, 2019, 04:48:22 PM »
 :o  where in Quran does it state that fish/seafood is not halal?   :nope:


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Off-Topic / Re: Is it okay to get cats fixed
« on: May 14, 2019, 07:13:25 PM »
also cat is good for hunting rats. first she played with rat before eating, cat is such a funny animal..


Our cat is a good hunter but only plays with mice but will
not eat them, but she will eat flies    :yuck:

Your friend is cruel. Cats need their whiskers for balance, they dont have them for no reason. He was probably dizzy and scared :(

Yeah cruel and sad, cats need their whiskers to help see in the
dark and to maintain balance.

I think keeping cats indoors is good if you live near a busy road or something. I let mine out in the mornings to run around and explore otherwise he won't stop meowing then he's fine being inside the rest of the day. Im guessing yours has been an indoor cat since she was a kitten. Ours isnt fixed but he doesn't have any behavior problems either so I don't think it's necessary. But we also feed feral cats and our cat is getting close to one of them so I'm thinking about trapping that one and getting her fixed instead. That way she wont be able to get pregnant by any other cat and we won't have too many in the neighborhood.

Yeah she is an indoor cat and will only go out if one of
us will accompany her.  She doesn't like thunder or
other loud noises and will hide in the closet until she
feels safe (my cat is a chicken!)

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Off-Topic / Re: Is it okay to get cats fixed
« on: May 14, 2019, 09:57:17 AM »
Do you believe it's right to spay or neuter cats or is it wrong because you're "changing the creation of God"?

Interesting question Amra94, we once had a cat that was not
fixed and it urinated throughout the house.  We had another
cat we let live inside/outside and it came back with fleas.
We took it to the vet for treatment $$$.  The cat we have now
is fixed, no problems, she lives peacefully as a housecat she is a
constant companion   :)



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