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Salaam hawk99

4:101-103 is commanding the leader to establish As-salat for those who are in  war situation.
So in the context of war the leader can call group from his army to decide their position in the war in a short manner reminding them the Quranic guidance in such situations,

History narrations tell that the prophet advised a group of his army to stay on a strategic hill top but they disobeyed the command and it resulted in losing the battle. I am not citing this example saying that history is 100% true but to give an example.

God bless you

Peace good brother, I am afraid you are now conflating war situation with traveling:

[4:101]  And when you travel throughout the land, there is no blame upon you
for shortening the prayer...... :handshake:

Peace hawk99,

The verse is :وَالْجَانَّ خَلَقْنَاهُ مِن قَبْلُ مِن نَّارِ السَّمُومِ

The word Quran used is الْجَانَّ not الْجِنَّ, big difference.

No where in Quran Allah said he created الْجِنَّ from fire. If it did then we need a reference. It is the misconception among muslims.


Peace NK, what's the dif?

Great Topic, thank you jkhan.

When I think of Jannah via Quran it reminds me that Jannah is all that is positive.

[41:31]  We were your allies in worldly life and in the Hereafter.   And you will have
therein whatever your souls desire, and you will have therein whatever you request.

We will be judged as individuals on Yawm al-Qiyamah and our reward or punishment
will be individualistic.

We will each have our very own paradise.      :pr

Peace NK

[15:27] And the jinn We created before from scorching fire.


God know we are doing sujood to him he dnt need gymnastics he need sujood, gymnastics are for body benefits not for God.

Peace imrankhawaja,

gymnastics?  Me?  Thanks,  I have family members who are gymnasts and if you see
them perform, trust me, to stand bow and prostrate will not qualify me as a gymnast!   :nope:

he need sujood

Allah has no needs

Peace Novice,

Where are the  "details of war" or the details of the "meetings" in 4:101-103?



brother hawk remember this post ages ago ? lol  :rotfl: bout mixed race jinns

Yeah,    What a thread!     :rotfl:

What is the nature of God? / Re: Allah is ENERGY
« on: January 07, 2019, 02:35:01 PM »
GOD is best described with His 99 attributes,


And sorry, energy is not among them.    :nope:

Brother stick to the root meanings of words and see what they convey rather than following alien meanings assigned to Quranic words to control and oppress people.

As I explained before I accept the meaning "to follow closely".

In every war people do attend meetings with their commanders to get directions on what to follow. It may be called war strategy. Once decided it becomes the guidance to be followed closely. These meetings can be conducted during war and caution can be preserved and weapons could be held.

Your understanding of [4:101-103]

In fact ritual prayer will be a great danger and an opportunity to be attacked by enemy.

That is why the ayat says take precautions.

So create your own system and make details. Well Quran call it "following their "desires" taking their "desires" as their gods" etc.

Not so, It's called using your brain.

So brother you can make your own rituals but they are not commanded by God unless they are detailed in a verse in the detailed Quran for us to follow.

To stand, bow and prostrate are indeed commandments from Allah.

And we cannot bring a verse from Quran detailing for us how to perform ritual prayer.

Again, you can use your brain to glorify your lord both physically as well as spiritually.
Which is better, to choose one or to choose both    :hmm

If someone offered you one million dollars or two million dollars I wonder which one
you would take    :yes

  :nope:  your interpretation makes no sense!   :nope:

"then you establish for them "the following".   What does that mean?  Do they even have
the time during war?

"when they all submit/acknowledge"   :nope:  makes no sense.


Why you started your quote from from 2:68?

Is it beacue you wanted to establish your point that we are asking for details for salat like people of Musa asked for details of the cow?

Yes, you got it!

How many times to stand, bow and prostrate in each ritual prayer and what to say in each action? You cannot show a verse in Quran giving you these details. You have to follow your elders blindly to perform ritual prayer but not by following God's revelation.

Here's where we agree, You are free to "follow closely" but both spiritually as well
as physically both are beneficial.  There is no rakat system as per Quran, how
many times you stand is up to you except in congregation one follows the leader. 
Sometimes I do one rakat (for lack of a better word) sometime two, NO you need
not "follow the elders blindly" create your own system, you make the details,
don't miss out on this wonderful gift from Allah.  Stand bow and prostrate and say
what you want to say with help from Quran.  Make the physical salat once a day
or five times a day it is up to you. Make it sitting if you have pain issues. 
If you miss an entire day there is no penalty.


Great discussion folks!

Those who want all these details remind me of this:

[2:68] They said, "Call upon your Lord to make clear to us what it is." [Moses] said,
"[Allah] says, 'It is a cow which is neither old nor virgin, but median between
that,' so do what you are commanded."

[2:69]  They said, "Call upon your Lord to show us what is her color." He said,
"He says, 'It is a yellow cow, bright in color - pleasing to the observers.' "

[2:71] He said, "He says, 'It is a cow neither trained to plow the earth nor to irrigate
the field, one free from fault with no spot upon her.' " They said, "Now you have
come with the truth." So they slaughtered her, though they had not the mind to do (it).    

I'm sorry but I can't help but do this:   :rotfl:

Stand, bow and prostrate


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