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Off-Topic / Re: Are sperm banks anti quranic?
« on: October 27, 2017, 11:21:31 AM »
I'm confused... Sperm banks mean you don't have sex with the person. You don't even see them. There's no relationship there.

Pleasure is another huge factor.

Not everyone wants children. Not everyone wants biological children. Not everyone wants to (or is able to) be married or in a committed relationship by the time they want to have children, and they may opt for single parenthood. Of course this isn't even taking into account the many LGBTQ+ individuals that want children too.

If someone has known fertility issues, they need to bring that up before they get married. If their issues are serious enough to cause them to not have their own biological children, that's important information to tell one's prospective partner, so they can decide for themselves if this is a person they should marry or not. Their partner needs to be aware of this possibility to know if they can accept the reality that may come with it - either it being very difficult in the future to have biological children, or impossible entirely.

If it's difficult, that means it's still a possibility. Financially expensive and emotionally taxing, but a possibility. Today we have fertility testing, drugs, artificial insemination, in vitro fertilization, surrogacy, donor sperm OR eggs, etc. There are a lot of options that allow for a couple to still have their own biological child. Couples may choose to explore all these options, or they may not. If biological children are not a possibly at all, a couple may choose to remain childless or look at other avenues like fostering or adoption.

Its Okay to use a Donor sperm according to the quran , is it?
So the child Biologically will be the wife's and another mans.... :-\

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Off-Topic / Re: Are sperm banks anti quranic?
« on: October 21, 2017, 10:00:41 AM »
Peace 357,

What do you mean by "anti Quranic"
    ???


                   :peace:

Are they against the law of the quran, which i think says , "believers are those who only have intercourse with their partners ...."
 or something like that.

why do people have intercourse just for sex or for something more then that?

Having your own child is great - to, then, bring them up so they are great human beings, you can to an extent shape their intelligence , health, height (depending on what you do to help in their development and growth.) - make them better human beings , to serve the almighty by better serving humanity ...e.t.c



Of course if you are impaired as a men then all this may not be possible, and should then your wife also give up the God given right to have a child?

 :peace:



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Off-Topic / Are sperm banks anti quranic?
« on: October 20, 2017, 06:57:49 AM »
Are sperm banks anti quranic?

If a man doesn't have any sperms or has an impairment  can the women have another mens sperm?

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Off-Topic / Re: who drive away traffic to this website?
« on: August 05, 2017, 02:27:15 PM »
I meant to say in my above post:
The majority of members(99.9%) want this forum to stay the best the other 0.1% give up easily when they realise they had a misconception about "Islam" and they cannot justify their claims/criticism .
 Peace

what a pity , but true.

I did learn a lot here - actually almost everything because of this site.

God Bless you guys who started it and keep it going ........ :peace:

I think older members should come back from time time...and share some of their knowledge.

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Off-Topic / who drive away traffic to this website?
« on: August 05, 2017, 09:34:56 AM »


This is a great place to talk about religion and things and learn.

This site used to be very busy, but has lost a lot of the people visiting, please say what is the reason - if possible, what puts people off from visiting?

Thanks.


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Pilgrimage (Hajj) / Re: Stoning the three pillars during Haj|
« on: July 30, 2017, 11:30:47 AM »


Ismail=Moses did away with their laws and set up the laws again for mankind........ cleansed Albait and reestablished it anew.

http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume1/00000400.pdf

I was looking at this ayah to make a point but need some input - from anybody ......

The word mathabatan 2.125 is always translated as a place for return, but looking at lanes

...Al-Bait  mathabatan for mankind.......Al-Bait is for recompensing , compensating, requital or reward - for good and for evil - for mankind.........

Is that right , might be?   :-\

Doesn't it sound like The Law?

Hope people agree or disagree  :-\

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Pilgrimage (Hajj) / Re: Stoning the three pillars during Haj|
« on: July 28, 2017, 05:19:26 AM »
peace,

My view is that it could mean "sacrifice" in its first usage in the verses (when Abraham relays the dream to his son) because when other visions are mentioned in Quran the words/objects used are often not taken literally (12:5, 12:100, 12:43) i.e. they are symbolic/mean something else.

Thus, this only leaves the 2nd usage of "sacrifice" (in 37:107) to explain away. It could be a play on words as I have noted elsewhere in Quran, but I personally haven't checked every Classical Arabic dictionary to see if this word has ever been used non-literally. We do it in English all the time however.

The objection in the above paragraph is the only sticking point for my view, everything else is favourably weighted towards my understanding (in my opinion). Thus, in terms of balance of probability I take the view as mentioned in the links I gave.

Exactly. Quran also confirms there is a separation: "...settled some/of/from (partitive) of my progeny" in 14:37.

To be frank, my view is a perfect fit except for what I mentioned previously.

If that was the case , then there is no great feat by ismail......

May be I am wrong, can/ is
Ismail = Moses, as there isn't any name for Moses in childhood in the quran, is there?

The sacrifice made was the giving up of their child, so it was never a physical slaughter as such.
May be pharaoh took away their children to work as slaves leaving behind their women.


Etymology of the name Ishmael

The name Ishmael consists of two elements. The first part comes from the verb שמע (shama'), meaning to hear:

Abarim Publications' online Biblical Hebrew Dictionary

שמע
The root-verb שמע (shama') means to hear in much the same way as our English verb. It may mean to perceive a sound via the ears (Genesis 3:10, Deuteronomy 4:33), or to hear about something via the grapevine (1 Samuel 13:4, Isaiah 66:8). It may denote an observant listening, a paying attention to (Amos 4:1, Micah 3:9), or understanding someone's language (Genesis 11:7). It may mean to hear someone out (Genesis 23:6), or hear someone in a judicial setting (Deuteronomy 1:17). Our verb also often means to listen to someone in the sense of to obey that person (Judges 2:20, 1 Samuel 8:7), or to hear and forgive or help (1 Kings 8:30, Isaiah 30:19).


I to denote who hears
Shama to hear
i?l the one who is heard

Ismail
(One) who hears Allah.

ﭮ ﭯ ﭰ ﭱ ﭲ ﭳ ﭴ ﭵ ﭶ ﭷ ﭸﭹ ﭺ ﭻ ﭼ ﭽ
SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
And [We sent] messengers about whom We have related [their stories] to you before and messengers about whom We have not related to you. And Allah spoke to Moses with [direct] speech.
(30. So when he reached it, he was called from the right side of the valley, in the blessed place, from the tree: ?O Musa! Verily, I am Allah, the Lord of all that exists!?)???



Or is it too far fetched?

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Pilgrimage (Hajj) / Re: Stoning the three pillars during Haj|
« on: July 28, 2017, 01:39:10 AM »
I recommend:
https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13069.msg273059#msg273059

Can you show where and how he is sacrificed in the quran? according to your explanation on the meaning of sacrifice? (although i do agree with you).....Thanks.

Remember they are never spoken of together again and ismael is very young also

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Pilgrimage (Hajj) / Re: Stoning the three pillars during Haj|
« on: July 27, 2017, 10:58:32 AM »
Thanks for your links and clarification. I have already came across these before from elsewhere.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

you are Welcome.

Another place  i found Mr shah rukh khan - an indian actor in his movie "my name is khan"

He plays a role as a guy with Asperger's syndrome

well any way he goes to read his salli in a masjid and sees a group of guys discussing islam and joins them

the imam starts telling Abraham sacrifice  , to encourage them to perform terrorism "see how abraham slaughtered his son for God"
Khan gets up and starts shouting "lier,lier, lier"
The imam asks politely well if God didn't order him who did ?

Khan replies "shaitan,shaitan,shaitan" and runs out of the mosque.

 :peace:


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Pilgrimage (Hajj) / Re: Stoning the three pillars during Haj|
« on: July 27, 2017, 09:35:49 AM »
Okay provide the links if you will
Regards

Here you are;


http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=7503.msg68913#msg68913

37:103
Wa Ma Aslama ??..? And not he submitted??..


The test or trial- read the following Ayah.

2:49
And remember, We delivered you from the people of Pharaoh: They set you hard tasks and punishments, slaughtered (what ever zibah means) your sons and let your women-folk live; therein was a tremendous trial from your Lord.

Abraham and his Son refused to carry out the orders of a tyrant (37:103) ? so Abraham passes the test but then ransomed by God with educational 30 years in the tyrants own palace.

The original quran was clearing up the falsehood - I believe.


Good Hunting.......

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