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#1
Allah did not create Al-Insan by DUST.. The Arabic word 'Thurab' indeed has one of the meanings of dust but when it comes to creation verses it is not DUST but it is OVUM/EGG or ovary for that matter (female)..  it's a cleaving object with a lot of separation..
Allah indeed created Adam with Sticky Clay (Theen) and this sticky clay (Theen) had all the properties to produce bones, blood, sperm etc..

23:12 "And indeed, We created man out of an essence/extract/property of clay." .... This is about Adam..

32:8 "Then He made his posterity out of the extract/property of a minute liquid." ... Rest of us..

The clay used for the first creation of Adam had all the elements/properties (sulalati) to become a human.. and the Liquid had all the elements/extracts (sulalati) to reproduce from Adam and his wife...

Carefully note the below verse and wherever the word (Thurab) Ovum/egg is used in the Quran.. there is no connection in every such creation verse with DUST..

22:05 O People, if you are in doubt about the raising back to life, then indeed, We created you from OVUM/EGG (Thurab), then from a sperm drop, then from a clinging clot, and then from an embryonic lump that is formed, and unformed that We make manifest to you. And We settle in the wombs whom We will for an appointed term, then We bring you out as a child, ....... ..."

The dust has no connection at all with embryological formation...

In Prophet Isa's case, parthenogenesis took place, i.e. asexual pregnancy.. I was wondering when reading verse 3:59, is it talking about Adam or Isa... Indeed it is referring Isa.. The word Thurab/Ovum used for Isa and not for Adam.. Allah never used 'Thurab' for Adam.. Always used Theen/clay for Adam's creation.. Up until further exploration tirelessly, I realized that Dust was the wrong translation and even I thought when I translated it was Dust.. But the truth is something else.. I didn't give any weight to the word Dust since it was so common and everyone knew we are clay so they say dust. fine.. but the Quran is talking about something else by the word THURAB in relation with creation....

#2
Well.. It will tweak you if you are not ready to explore the Quran to its level of magnitude and surrender to truth and if you have proclivity and propensity towards emotions it won't help at all..

Allah doesn't have NAMEs... The word Allah is not name either and most probably and mostly appropriately it is The God/The Deity in any given language... Why should Allah have names when He is Unique... He was there while nothing was there and no one was there to call Him by any name... Then He created whatever He created and let them identify Him well deservedly as Our Lord (Rab) or The God or Deity or with His Attributions/Ascriptions like 'The Most Merciful' or 'The Most Generous' or 'The Creator' etc. in any preferred language. Everyone and everything needs name/s but not Allah.. We need identity and things need identity but, not the one who created them needs identity..  He is beyond Identity...

..........

Let me intertwine the word Al Satan in this same topic... Iblees is a given name but ever since he was divested of his Malak status as a consequence of denial to abide by the command to acknowledge (Sujud), Allah called him Al-Satan, and the name Iblees is lost from Allah's dictionary .. Al Satan is one and was the one who was given respite until the day of resurrection, and he has a mission to conspire against everyone who seek the Path of Allah... Indeed Al-Satan = The Conspirator, and it has no plural and he is the mastermind all alone... any group of people or an individual who conspires anything is indeed Shayateen or shaytan respectively but Al-Satan is none other than Iblees... He will conspire in every element of life and inspire all those in his path already and form his mighty army to make his objective successful, i.e., conspiracy towards deception. His conspiracy with his followers is not visible to anyone.. That's why it is called conspiracy and those who commit them are Conspirators... You can't see them or their conspiracy but they assiduously and conscientiously conceive their ploy/plan aiming at us..
Satan has no biological descendants as most perceive and his descendants are those who closely follow his path and Al-Satan utilizes them against all human beings..

Al-Satan is not a word that can't be translated into other languages and it is not a name

Thank you...
Salam..
#3

Are we compelled to read the Arabic Quran being a stranger to the language or are we compelled for our own sake to observe the signs of Allah and surrender to HIM?


Quran Guidelines and Natural Intuition

22:08 And of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening book

Let's figure out how Allah could be 'Rabb Al Alamin / Lord of Races' while the Quran is in Arabic language and more than a millennium has elapsed while the world is full of diverse languages and diverse people and races..

The Quran is without any spot of skepticism the word of Allah / Supreme Being and comprises heaps of guidance, knowledge, and wisdom in addition to prophecies and mysterious information and particular stacks of personal commandments to the community it was revealed, etc. since I have gone through cover to cover and mostly understood it to the best of my knowledge to date. As a believer in God with all one's exertion of efforts, would he need the written communication of Allah in a particular language in a period where there are no Messengers or Prophets of Allah with new books from HIM? For instance, is it mandatory for a natural believer in his Creator to approach any book revealed in an alien language compared to his natural innate language (for example, the Arabic Quran)? Quran is in Arabic and the world is full of diverse languages and not necessary for everyone to learn other languages and it is ridiculous if one says YES. But the world is a plethora of diversity for everyone wherever they happen to live and needless any language to explain it.. I mean to say the signs of Allah in nature are immaterial with the restriction of languages.. To grasp signs of Allah language won't play a role. All one has to do is to apply his God gifted senses on the signs what he observes everyday in his life.

Well, I am trying to incorporate the above to bring to light  that our intuition and insight and the connection with the signs of Allah in nature and around us are key. Thus, is it possible to keep away the revelations of Allah whether it is Torah or Injeel or Quran entirely, and forge ahead with one's faith in God in life since he realized that God does exist and is convinced? Of course, it is probable without any uncertainty. If someone is not inquisitive about an Arabic book or Hebrew book and not within his reach to learn the language first comprehensively in order to understand the exact revelations revealed by Allah, then I strongly feel he can simply neglect any of Allah's revelations as long as he believes in God with certainty.  Even if he learns The God revealed book's language, keeping in mind to understand the book, it won't completely help since languages are meant to change in meaning since time has elapsed a long way. But how would he get as a believer in God, the guidelines written in the book since believers are to abide by the laws of Allah in life? Subsequently, I am at the right spot now.. Can we be obedient to Allah in His laws which are explained in His previous books (Quran, Torah, etc.)? So, the significant question is, What is it that which one doesn't understand in natural law while he has accepted Allah as his Lord. And I don't see anything a natural believer would do against his intuition that goes against the law of Allah. Is the guidance only through Messengers or the Messengers specifically were sent to strengthen and point out the falsehoods to get rid of them that were invented in those societies in ignorance? Is the modern era subjected to ignorance or do they choose ignorance willingly of their forefathers? Wouldn't instinct play a massive role in curbing one's evil though he opts for evil out of intriguing nature?

What are those enigmatic instructions in the Quran which cannot be comprehended by the insight and intuition of a learned person while he keeps honesty as well without the Quran or other books revealed? Are those books mandatory? There is no enigmatic instructions that are not within the intuition of a person in the Quran.. All instructions are based on knowledge and fairness thoroughly in line with human inbuilt nature. It seems they are only a reminder to rejuvenate our inbuilt nature and abide by it in case we falter and choose an erroneous path from the inbuilt path of Allah.

Suppose, had I been a believer in the existence of God without reading any God-revealed book, what would I have done next to be a righteous person and blended with nature and its signs? If I was honest with my belief in God, most probably whatever instructions that are crystal clear would have been so natural to me without reading the book because it is inbuilt and it is not unfathomable instructions to follow. For example, would I kill someone and claim I don't know killing is right or wrong, or would have sex with another woman other than the woman I am married to and would that soothe the woman I am married to? Would I steal other people's money and claim I don't know what is right and wrong? .. Would not a human feel guilty after doing a wrong thing to another human being and still hide his evil act...From where do these innermost feelings explode? In such a manner, we can reflect where in the Quran it is written something that can't be fathomed out by oneself using intuition..
22:08 "And of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening book"

So, not only the enlightening book but the knowledge that Allah has bestowed to people can be utilized if they want to... but they are not at all interested in as they have opted the wrong path intently..

So, I don't see anything enigmatic written in the Quran and all instructions are within the reach of the knowledge of a person and his self-consciousness. Human knows what the evil path is and what the right path is ...

That's why Allah says This Quran guides those who are conscious (2:2).. So what if the person himself is already conscious and believer in the existence of God using his consciousness and honesty thus working hard to be a good person by applying morals in life and avoiding evils? Would he need to reach a book written in a language unless he exerts valiant effort to master the language first in order to grasp on his own rather than depending on other's infusion in the form of interpretations and translations.. What if he never had seen any such books in his life or even translations of such books or never had the opportunity to go in-depth? Imagine people who lived in the 10th century for example where they would not have found any translations of the Quran ...
Or is it Allah's command to master Arabic and follow the laws of Allah, if not you will be punished. That's weird and never I go for that option under any circumstances...

So, is the Quran mandatory for our guidance in general even if we are not able to reach its core meaning while you can understand the signs of Allah if you have a will? :nope:

what do you have to say about it from a very neutral point of aspect, taking into consideration all possible concerns..? Or is your mental preconceived answer is that you must read the Quran..


#4
Quote from: shukri on July 06, 2024, 09:58:18 AMYes, you can if you wish
Just start a new thread!
Maybe some users here are interested in participating in it!

Note:
I don't know what criteria they used to produce "The True Furqan", the book that claimed to be fulfillment of the challenge of Quran to produce a book similar to Quran (see # Reply 172)
AND how the muslim world reacted to this claim!

Thank you.


https://mamnoe.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/the-true-furqan-alforghan-alhagh.pdf

So... No need for anyone to produce another book, let's see what the book they have already produced has to say..

After all, they can produce not only a chapter but an entire book full of words and verses..

Now, would you accept that they COULD do it or how do you deny or invalidate what they have invented... It is clear, that these words are of humans... so how would you differentiate the words of Allah ...

How would you see 'Al Quran' (words of Allah) with 'The True Al Furqan' (words of humans)?

As Allah states in clear words Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah , they would have found within it much contradiction.... 4:82
So, we clearly know that the book called 'The True Al Furqan' is from Human.. So, would you find contradictions?

Glad to hear your comments..

thank you...
#5
2:129 Our Lord, and raise with/in them a messenger from them who will recite/read to them Your verses/revelations and make them known the Book and wisdom and purify them. Indeed, You are the Exalted in Might, the Wise."

The Arabic word and the way it is used nowadays may mean TEACHING but not within the QURAN.. There is no TEACHING the book mentioned in the Quran by any messenger...Indeed the duty of any messenger was to deliver/proclaim thus MAKING THEM KNOW what they were unaware of... With the recital the proclamation or making them aware is accomplished so they know of the book and wisdom ... No one can purify another... impossible... one gets purified if he believes in Allah performs good deeds and follows the path of Allah... But here in the verse, it manifestly means to CLEAR or UNBURDEN them to which they are devoted.. you can say PURIFY also, but the depth of meaning of purify should be taken i.e. RELIEVE them..

Word TEACH involves HOW to, WHY, and WHAT to do and that too with context, but MAKE THEM KNOWN is not and it is the individual's duty to COMPREHEND..

If messengers of the past are to TEACH the people then VERSES of Allah are redirected according to the person's understanding of Messengers and thus there should be another book in place about what exactly the Messengers TAUGHT from the book/s

Look at the below verse

 2:151 Just as We have sent with/in you a messenger from/among you reciting to you Our verses and purifying you and MAKING you KNOWN the Book and wisdom and MAKING you KNOWN that which you did not KNOW.

It is not TEACHING...

2:239 "..... But when you are secure, then remember Allah , as He has MADE you KNOWN that which you did not KNOW.

Allah doesn't TEACH.. Teaching is a literal process but Allah MADE US KNOWN in order that people use their faculties..

38:29 A profound Book which We have descended to YOU(singular), that THEY might REFLECT/COMPREHEND upon its verses and that those of knowledgeable would CONSIDER.

Mohamed or Musa or Isa cannot teach to people what is descended but Allah's system is individual to REFLECT... Everyone can explain what they understand from the book but CANNOT TEACH as if they are the AUTHOR of the book...
If Messenger TAUGHT then that would END as the ULTIMATE understanding and no one should reflect on QURAN... In that case, I am curious to follow a Book that Messenger taught.. Where is what Messenger TAUGHT :confused: ?
#6
Allah has used many words to describe the abode of people who are adjudged to live in the hereafter such as Jahanna, Naar, Jaheem etc..

Through all these verses, do you consider that Allah places disbelievers directly connected to the FIRE so that they be burned literally by literal fire, or is the abode full of hardship where it is fully heated like living in an extreme desert or nearby to a volcano when it is erupted where life but miserable from all aspects?

what's your understanding..

Of late whenever I read the verses, I feel that these abode of hell is such a pit where life is horrible while Janna is pleasing..

what are your thoughts on the Quran and your up-to-date perception based on that..

How logical and how far it is possible for the people of Jahannam to make some other people under their feet stamp them while they themselves being burned in a literal fire how come they ask for water or how come they call the guards to ask for relief while they are in FIRE.. why one need food while in the fire burning... Aren't these verses hint to us that the abode of Hell is indeed a Hell where life is miserable and no one would enjoy a single aspect of life and isn't it right judgment for those who denied Allah..

Is a miserable life worthy or a life burning in literal fire?

Note : All these words NAAR, JAHANNAM, JAHEEM etc do have the other meaning other than literal Fire..
#7
I am not happy at all with many of the translations of small chapters and they don't give any sort of tangible meaning to me even though I tried to figure it out. The problem lay in translations and not in the verses.. So, I decided to disclose them one by one as I understood ... it will definitely take time, so be patient with me and you are welcome to negate them with much logic..

Chapter 111

111:1 Perished hands of nourisher of extreme thirst (desire), and perished he
111:2 Not benefited him his wealth and what he earned
111:3 He will be destroyed in the prison of Hell possessing an extreme thirst
111:4 And his wife/partner bearer of the belongings
111:5 In a rope of fiber on her neck.


Yes... that's my understanding ... and creating an imaginary person in the name of Abu Lahab is ridiculously unacceptable for me and it is not what the verse indeed states.. I know that is what we have been taught as dependent people on translations.. But the truth is something else.


106:1 For bringing together (with affection) historic people
106:2 Their caravan/journey of bringing together in the Winter and the Summer
106:3 In order to serve Lord of the Charter / Monotheistic System of this
106:4 Which fed/supported them against extreme Inclination and assured them
      against concerns.


This chapter is absolutely connected with Journey of Haj / Debate where they found their guidance through prophets heralding and debating on the System of Allah...

#8
You can argue or can comment or discuss...  whatever of your choice but bring some conclusive results on this topic...Concerns are as under..

The one who is born poor and lived poor and said goodbye as poor are many millions on this Earth regardless of their hidden and conspicuous respective faiths towards Allah...

... How can a person who from birth to death lived a desperately pathetic life when it comes to material aspects of life, appreciate or be grateful to their Creator?

Based on what, they are to be grateful to their Lord? Miserable were their lives... They didn't hoard materials and were greedy... Allah says 'Is blind and the one who sees same?' .. so everyone is not same.. Neither rich nor poor same.. who is more worthy to be humiliated in the hereafter if not those who possessed the wealth of their Lord and not amongst the grateful ?..


when it comes to knowledge... are knowledgeable ones and illiterate the same?
No... So if poor people were illiterate how can they use their intellect as well... Allah ask people to use their intelligence... most poor people are illiterate given that they don't have finances to educate...

Would Allah punish pathetic poor people? ....

wouldn't poor people say at one point in the Hereafter if they were in the hellfire, "Allah neither kept our lives in our past life comfortable nor in the Hereafter"
when it comes to disbelieving Rich people, at least their present life is better... so why would poor disbelieving people have to go through such trauma in this world and the hereafter? could that be vindicated by any means?

How can those who were deprived of Allah's resources (materials/power/knowledge) be punished while their life was like the lives of animals i.e. lived on begging or dependent on others due to compulsion and survival...

Would you want a kid to pass the exam while a kid was never sent to school? Is that logical? if it is not, then isn't the concern of the poor also the same?

anyway .... appreciate your perspectives...


#9
For example...

12:2 "Indeed, We have sent it down a recitation / Quran of  distinctness (Arabian)  that you may comprehend"

I know Arabic is a language.. And the Quran is in Arabic language too, but context of the verse doesn't make sense jist to say we have revealed in Arabic so you comprehend..
But this word Arab had many meanings and not at all taken into consideration when accompanied with word QURAN..
For example compare the verse 46:12 and it states LISAN ARABIYAN and without doubt we can deduce that it means Arabic Language and the context does support to take it arabic language and not as "in a distinct language" ...Also 16:103 LISAN is used with Arab.. So it means toung or language arabic..

But take a look at verse 13:37
"And thus We have revealed a distinct (ARABIYAN) Legislation (Hukman. "
Why it should be taken as Arabic Hukma?  It won't make sense..

39:28
"A distinct (arabiyan)  recitation (Quran), without any deviance so that they might become concious"

Anyway explore yourself... It's my understanding...

Thanks
#10
General Issues / Questions / What is ISLAM?
April 17, 2024, 02:36:30 AM
 Peace..

What is ISLAM in Quran?  Well.. In my comprehensive understanding of Quran,  ISLAM means a SYSTEM / MECHANISM as DEEN / DIRECTION to adhere those who call themselves believers in their Creator... Yes. You may differ but it won't make any difference  unless it is truth in others researches.. Truth spoken by anyone is truth and falsehood spoken by anyone remains falsehood.. Individuals are to comprehend it.. Accountable..

Having said that,  what I want to present here is about ISLAM not about the meaning of SURRENDERING or SUBMISSION but aforesaid meaning I clarified, ie  SYSTEM...

Significant point I want to raise here is WHY HISTORICALLY it is accepted that ISLAM BEGAN with Quran or rather with advent of Mohamed?  Is that really true? Or is it fabricated in  the name of Quran and Mohamed by some who came well after Mohamed and Quran since they didn't find a ritualistic religion to their own taste... ISLAM (monotheistic SYSTEM) as a DEEN /DIRECTION was ordained from the time of prophet Ibrahim and all the messengers and prophets came after were given the same ISLAM /SYSTEM and that is well documented proof within Quran...
If so,  let's find some logical answers to below potential concerns..

1... Why Arabs alone claim ISLAM as their Religion.. Yes.. After invasions, non-Arabs accepted that so called ISLAM.. But Arabs are the originator of the religion called 'Islam'...

2... Did Muhamed claim that Islam was his religion and different to all prophets and messengers came before to form a separate religion ?

3... Why so called ISLAM spread through Arabs only if most of the people of the book (Torah and Injeel) were indeed MUSLIMS following ISLAM /SYSTEM?

4... Why genuine Hadu and Nasara of the past never claimed that their RELIGION is ISLAM but they always believed in revelation revealed to them in Torah and Injeel and even Quran and they remained Muslims/Submitters to Allah alone thus they followed the SYSYEM /ISLAM but never claimed their RELIGION itself is ISLAM.. Did they?

5.... How come among the people of the book who were truly believers and dominant to that region never spread a RELIGION called ISLAM while they literally did follow the Islam Deen ?... Doesn't that mean there was NO religion from Allah but only a revelation to follow which is systematic and common to all... 

6.... Was there any religion called as ISLAM until these Arabs called themselves?  If No.. Then,  isn't Islam a religion invented basically through the ARABS of that region and has no connection whatsoever to the absolute truth of Quran which Mohamed and his followers complied to..

7.... Rigid and conspicuous point is no one is a Submitter/Muslim unless they accept a RELIGION called ISLAM while according to Quran Islam/System is a Deen / Direction to follow for the success and that SYSTEM prevails above all Directions / Deen exists ..
8... Simple question... What is the religion of people of scripture or even Bani Israel who were truthful believers? 

9.... Without any element of surprise, Islam was invented and made a religion fundentally based on human touch and giving little icing with Quran to keep it alive. Whoever invented this religion had an agenda.  Quran is full of guidance and knowledge and wisdom in which Islam / system also detailed for believers to abide by.. Entire Quran is not Islam but only Systematic Law mentuoned in Quran is Islam..
The Islam that we see for centuries has its own function and entirely contrary to what is written in Quran...  Word Islam proves it.. Take a look at below verse..
3:85 "
And whoever seeks other than the System / Islam a Direction / Deen- never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers."

A profound and strong verse to reflect...

Above verse, everyone translated "Islam as religion " and word Islam thus became the name of the religion automatically ..

But contrary to that, Allah has constituted the System and completed and presented for believers to take direction from it to practice in life and most significantly NO OTHER Direction / Deen will be accepted other related in the System... Now.. Point to ponder is, ISLAM itself another religion with plethora of fabrications and the Islam has its own identity and following anything other than that is invalidated by this religion...  For example this Islam has five pilars starting from Shahada...  But, carefully note what the verse 3:85 states... "whoever seeks other than Islam Deen WILL NOT be accepted... "

So folks, where is Islam Deen written if not in Quran itself?  Would you want to follow other than Islam Deen which Allah guaranteed will NOT be accepted and unfortunately informed will be LOSERS ?

So,  finally,  ask yourself... 'DO YOU FOLLOW ISLAM DEEN or other ?

After all,  which ISLAM has spread all over the world from some point of time in the past?  Is it Islam that Allah refers in 3:85 or something other than that which Allah refers in same verse? 

Islam is just systematic law to apply in one's life wherever it is necessary but beyond Islam there are many things in Quran to learn since it is full of guidance and wisdom.. So Islam itself cannot be a religion and everything .. Everything in Quran is not Islam.. Try to grasp it... Islam is just one part of believers life cuz it has set of directions to follow..
 
#11
General Issues / Questions / Age of Nuh in Quran
March 13, 2024, 10:50:17 PM
https://youtu.be/TPLpEJl9IO8?si=CuIrgNEi5HFSKwXd

Do you agree?

He says sanata means 1000 UNPRODUCTIVE PEOPLE  and 50 Aama means 50 productive people.. So Nuh remained with 950 unproductive and 50 proecuctive people..

What logic is that..?
How can there be 50 prouductive people from 1000 unproductive people...?

😂

Can there be 50 good oranges from 1000 corrupted oranges?

Any objections pls.

Note... Why some believers so  sceptical that people would not have lived That many years and consider impossible... So they try level best to change the tonr of it. 
Same Dr.  Hanny is talking about people of cave not 300 years but 300 unproductive people. 
#12
General Issues / Questions / Welcome /receive
March 09, 2024, 03:59:31 AM


Salam.

The attached is lost of words and and these words for me I feel are welcome or receive not hope ...

I don't know suddenly I felt when I read a verse.. No.. It is not hopr iy seems welcome. But that's how normally guidance reached me in my life.. So I checked all other verses whether welcome
/  receive match.. Well for me perfectly matches..
Has anyone taken any of these verses as welcome / receive / greet?
Or am I weird here..?


I was wondering if everywhere this verse is welcome then what is in 69:17 ..ot seems like WELCOMING POINT where Malika standing..

Also 7:111 and those three verses if it translates as POSTPONE... well.. Creepy that is..
For me it says WELCOME /RECEIVE MOSA AND HARUN.. and other verse too welcome the proposal

Second point...

Also word Ayyam normally translated as plural of day... Is it really plural of day?  Or something like INTENSITY.. certain verses when taken as days makes me feel like ..well not giving sense in verse... Any thoughts...
#13
wāw qāf yā و ق ي

Normally stated THAQWA... Is this PIETY or  RIGHTEOUSNESS or FEAR? 
well.. big No.. In my thorough understanding it means fundamentally CONCIOUS / COGNIZANT and it has meaning of defend etc too but my concern is about CONCIOUSNESS...
In entire Quran whereever This word is translated as righteous or pious or fear should be replaced by cognizant / concious or it's proper forms ...

Note : FEAR or ANXIETY (root khā shīn yā (خ ش ي ) or (root khā wāw fā خ و ف is mentioned in Quran even to Allah and even Allah fear or be anxious and these words are different but not wāw qāf yā ...

Any verse of taqwa you bring I will show in sha Allah how it works with cognizant or concious... It makes much sense in entire Quran with complete verses contextually too..

Salam..
#14
Some are asking me that 29:45 is salah or not?... Let me explain..

29:45
"Recite (tā lām wāw ت ل و what is revealed to you of the Book and establish connection / integrity Indeed, connection (salah) prevents immorality and wrongdoing, and the remembrance of Allah is greater, and Allah knows that which you do."

If you look at the above verse,  most would say yes read Quran and perform salah... That's how we are programmed..
If you take word tā lām wāw  as RECITE here ..fine.. Of course this word has a meaning of RECITE...  but it has other meanings as well which Quran specifically used.. But actual meaning in this verse is PURSUE like in some other verses of Quran..

"Pursue what is revealed to you of the book,  and establish connection / integrity (salah), indeed connection/integrity (salah) prevents immoralities and evils, and the remembrance of Allah is greater and Allah knows that what you do."

Ritual salah never even has the capacity to prevent immoralities and evils.. It's just a movement of body... But this (salah) connection / integrity with Allah is a powerful weapon and its truthful and stands as a barricade in your heart and thus it keeps away immoralities and evils... But in the same verse Allah states more than the Connection /Salah,  the Remembrance / Zikr Allah is great.. Cuz connection is kind of fear and respect but remembering Allah is indeed greater...

Note: I don't see those who do ritual salah are with pure characters void of immoralities and evils.. It doesn't help.. At least I have seen people who try hard to prevent some basic evils from dawn to dusk while doing fasting just to safeguard their fasting but they do all evils cuz they not even aware what immoralities and evils are.. They are restricted only with sex but all evils in business and in general life and in heart  never faded off..

Nothing prevents immoralities and evils except Connection (Salah) to Allah...  And Allah didn't even mention that Siyam prevents immoralities and evils..
** some conventional Muslims do have Connection / salah with Allah for sure but they never believed in Allah without associating to Allah.  . That's unfortunate..
#15
What is the nature of God? / Thanking Allah?
January 29, 2024, 09:40:04 PM
I was discussing a bit with my best friend... But I am interested hear your views..
What you think THANKING ALLAH is? Being grateful to Allah means saying by words like Alahamdulillah and done.. Even Alahamdulillah doesn't mean thank you Allah..

shīn kāf rā ... Grateful is the word I am talking about... What's it in Quran?

Pls share your up to date understanding and yout understanding after seeing this topic...
Thank you
Salam..