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#1
What made you decide to leave sectarian Islam?

My story in short: Once a day i was praying in a mosque. Before the prayer, i was talking with someone. While talking, i asked him something like "do you know this hadith". He responded, or i heard him saying, "sorry, no i dont follow ahadith".
In my mind i was like, how can he follow Islam without following the ahadith. I kept silence, and we both went our own way. So when i was back at home, i started searching for "no-hadith" Islam, on the internet.
I saw Rashad Khalifa, and he had some really good points, like: following God alone, Quran alone etc. So that's when i started thinking about leaving sectarian Islam. I was a salafi, the most orthodox and extreme form of sectarian Islam.

After a while, i started noticing that also Rashad Khalifa didn't speak 100% the truth. So i started listening more to Edip Yuksel. Edip said that prayer was 3 times a day etc., and i also was thinking that it was 3 times a day, and not 5 times, like Rashad said etc.

But then as well Edip did say some things, that i don't agree on. And that's when i started searching on my own to the truth. I stopped following people, and so called teachers etc.

I started believing in Quranic Islam. And while reading the Quran more and more, i started reading about the Bible. So once, on a day, God showed me a person, who made me think, to start reading the Bible, and the Quran. So i started reading them both. While reading, i started seeing the big picture. And i now believe in both of them. I am still learning Hebrew, Greek and Arabic.

Everything made sense, the Catholics, the Sunnis, the Pharisees, etc.

I don't follow any groups anymore. And i don't follow a teacher. The Books are my teacher, and God alone can guide me. So yeah, i think that i am now on the right track. I still have to learn a lot, but at least God saved me from those sectarian groups, and teached me that it is important to learn on your own and keep praying for the truth.
#2
I see the same pattern, and the same temple. It may appear in a different way from the outside, because people started building with stones etc. But it always had a place where to sacrifice the animals etc.

In the Tawrat, Zabur and Injeel etc. i read about 3 different Temples in details. The details are so detailed, that even the details about how it should be build are found in the Scriptures. Inch by Inch.

Moses build one. Solomon build one. And one was there when Jesus the Messiah was on earth.

Now the Quran also speaks about a Temple. And it was build by Abraham right? If i am correct? So it was build before that of Moses, Solomon and Jesus.

Since it was build in that time, what kind of value does it have in our time? Since that one that was build after Abraham, by Moses doesn't have any value at the moment. And since that one build by Solomon doesn't have any value at the moment. And since that one that was build around the time of Jesus, is already destroyed.

It seems that they all were destroyed. But what amazes me is that the Saudis still claim to have one? But i don't see any family serving in the Temple, and sacrificing animals? Like the family of Levi, those who served in the Temples from Isaacs line? It was even forbidden for other families to enter it etc., read the Previous Scriptures for details.

So my question is, does the Quran mention a certain family/blood line that should serve in the Temple? If it was been build by Ishmael and Abraham? And also interesting, what happened with the Original Temple, since it's already more then 3000-4000 years ago?

I think i understand the concept of Hajj, and Masjid Al Haraam etc. It's the same in the Injeel, Zabur and the Tawrat. It's the same in all those Scriptures. People went to the Temple/Beyt, offered their sacrifices/animals/food, to give thanks, or for atonement for their sins, mainly for their sins. That's by the way why the Messih was sent, to be the ultimate sacrifice, for all those who believed in him etc.

But now i ask myself, what about Hajj, to those places? What i learned from the Injeel, is that since the Temple would be destroyed, it was actually prophecied, there was always the Temple in Heaven that was build by God Himself, instead of men. Should we perform the spiritual Hajj to the Temple in Heaven? Or to the places where the Temples stood on earth?

That also explains the change in direction of prayer. Since i read that he looked up into the sky? Why would he look up into the sky? Since the Temple is in Heaven?

Anyways, a lot to learn. And a lot to think about. I think i am on the correct way, by reading both Scriptures. May the Lord protect me and guide me.
#3
Most of the time when we worship, we believe. But it feels different and good if we really can hear, see and understand God.  If we ignore God, and reject Him by mocking Him, i can understand that we become deaf, blind and stupid. That's why we want to become Holy, so that we can try to communicate with Him.

Have you ever tried to talk with God? And did He answer you?

Can you explain it in detail if it is a yes. If it's a no, can you think why it's not the case? Wouldn't it be amazing to have a personal relationship with God? After all, even Satan communicated with God.

I don't feel at the moment that God talked or communicated to me personally. But He answered my prayers at least once in my lifetime, but that's not the topic.


#4
I wash myself, i wear beautiful clothes, i stand, i say the prayer in the Injeel, because the Messih actually teached those who don't know how to pray how they can pray and should pray, while praying that prayer, i bow, and kneel once. When my prayer and physical body movement is done i am actually done. Sometimes i keep sitting after that kneeling, and ask God something personal etc.

So i wash myself according to the Quran. I wear beautiful clothes etc. also according to the Quran. But i can't really find a Guide on what to say while praying. Which i later learned, is actually up to you, since it's personal. But i like to use the guided prayer system in the Injeel.

I use the physical body movements which are described in the Quran. And the spiritual spoken prayer from the Injeel.

The prayer goes like this out of the top of my head, Our Father who is in Heaven, Holy is your Name, may your Kingdom come, may your will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven, give us today our daily bread, forgive us our debts as we forgive those who have debts, Yours is the Kingdom, the Power and the Glory, now, for ever and ever, so be it.

While i am standing i say: Our Father who is in Heaven, Holy is your Name, may your Kingdom come, may your will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven, give us today our daily bread, forgive us our debts as we forgive those who have debts,

While i am bowing i say:  Yours is the Kingdom, the Power and the Glory,

While i am kneeling i say: now, for ever and ever, so be it.

Done. That's how i pray. How much times do i pray? I try to pray 3 times a day. That's what i can find in the Quran, and i also find that pattern in a Previous Scripture, the Zabur, King David, who prayed 3 times a day.

But what i found out is that prayer actually is something personal. The guided prayer and guidelines for what to say are to my knowledge only found in the Injeel. Which means that there could be a personal prayer, where you were actually talking to God, instead of more, worshipping Him.

I had a lot of questions about prayer, because i was a Salafi. But i kept praying personally to God. I didn't focus on how i should pray, but what i was praying. Until God guided me to this prayer which i think is right for me.

I think most people will either pray on their own way. Or according to a specific way which they are teached. What i learned is, that actually having a personal relation with God is the most important thing. So my advice would be, focus on that, since it's all about God.

Any opinions? I know i am a minority. But yeah, i try to use the Books of God as a Guidance, i already gave up upon human guidance a long time ago. I am happy with the way i pray now, i think it can't go wrong if you really ask God for guidance and focus on the actuall prayer and connecting with God instead of how you should pray and what to say. It actually feels amazing to try to connect with God and become Holy and talk with Him, we wait until He responds, we don't give up Hope, who else can answer our Prayers :D!

Anyways, may God guide us all.

PS: I don't kneel with my head, i kneel with my chin, learned this from the Quran. May be weird at first, but it actually shows that you submit yourself, your pride, to God, since most pride is found in the chin.



#5
And it's like the 1% is shattered all around the globe..

So how would you search for the correct man/woman that aren't part of a sect and actually try to follow the Words of God sent down by Him.
#6
I made a short video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgW0PxfkwtQ

It's about the verse:

An English translation of the Quran 55:33 O assembly of Jinn and mankind, if you can penetrate the boundaries of the heavens and the earth, then go ahead and penetrate. You will not penetrate without might.

People would might laugh at you if you told them 1400 +/- years ago that humanity would start going into space. But here it is, 1 of the verses of the Quran that fuels my Faith in the Unseen.