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Quranic Divinity / A claim against 4:82
« on: July 19, 2020, 08:54:20 AM »
Salam/Peace everyone. There is a claim against 4:82 that i honestly have a hard time understanding it that i am not sure if i should do this post but i decided to post this to hopefully an issue i have. There is a claim that 4:82 contains a "false conditional statement" and that claim came from a blogspot which states that any man made book can be free from error. 4:82 is about Qur'an itself so i am not certain what this person even trying prove their point.

This is the blogspot i am referring to:

http://captaindisguise.blogspot.com/2013/02/qurans-error-sura-482-if-quran-had-been.html

Sorry if i am putting a burden on you siblings. I blame myself for getting into these issues.

*Edit*

I wonder if anyone has also came across this claim or something similar of this claim? I don't know if someone here in this forum have also made a post about this topic.

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Salam/Peace dear siblings. I came across a claim of a "logical contradiction" against God. This person is technically criticizing Time and Free Will against God (if i said it right)

https://www.foundalis.com/rlg/time-god.htm

Could anyone please give a response here? I don't know who could help me out on this issue so i am hoping someone can give a good logical response on this.

 

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Qur'an 10:99-100
« on: June 29, 2020, 03:27:44 AM »
Salam/Peace everyone and Allah (SWTAY) bless you all in good tidings. I want to speak about 10:99-100

This is the verse:

10:99 ولو شاء ربك لءامن من فى الارض كلهم جميعا افانت تكره الناس حتىا يكونوا مؤمنين
Walaw shaa rabbuka laamana manfee al-ardi kulluhum jameeAAan afaanta tukrihu alnnasahatta yakoonoo mu/mineena
And had your Lord willed, all the people on the earth in their entirety would have believed. Would you force the people to make them believe?

10:100 وما كان لنفس ان تؤمن الا باذن الله ويجعل الرجس على الذين لا يعقلون
Wama kana linafsin an tu/minailla bi-ithni Allahi wayajAAalu alrrijsaAAala allatheena la yaAAqiloonaAnd it is not for a soul to believe except with the permission of God. And He lets taint those who do not comprehend.


Now some people will critique this verse thinking that it is against free will and some claim that Allah can also make a disbeliver, however there are verses that explains why he leads or misguides people for a good reason:

6:110 ونقلب افدتهم وابصرهم كما لم يؤمنوا به اول مرة ونذرهم فى طغينهم يعمهون
Wanuqallibu af-idatahum waabsarahumkama lam yu/minoo bihi awwala marratin wanatharuhumfee tughyanihim yaAAmahoona
We divert their hearts and eyesight, as they did not acknowledge it the first time; and We leave them wandering in their transgression.

6:148 سيقول الذين اشركوا لو شاء الله ما اشركنا ولا ءاباؤنا ولا حرمنا من شىء كذلك كذب الذين من قبلهم حتى ذاقوا باسنا قل هل عندكم من علم فتخرجوه لنا ان تتبعون الا الظن وان انتم الا تخرصون
Sayaqoolu allatheena ashrakoo law shaaAllahu ma ashrakna wala abaonawala harramna min shay-in kathalikakaththaba allatheena min qablihim hattathaqoo ba/sana qul hal AAindakum min AAilminfatukhrijoohu lana in tattabiAAoona illa alththannawa-in antum illa takhrusoona
Those who are polytheists will say: "If God wished, we would not have set up partners, nor would have our fathers, nor would we have made anything unlawful." Those before them lied in the same way, until they tasted Our might. Say: "Do you have any knowledge to bring out to us? You only follow conjecture, you only guess."

7:146 ساصرف عن ءايتى الذين يتكبرون فى الارض بغير الحق وان يروا كل ءاية لا يؤمنوا بها وان يروا سبيل الرشد لا يتخذوه سبيلا وان يروا سبيل الغى يتخذوه سبيلا ذلك بانهم كذبوا بايتنا وكانوا عنها غفلين
Saasrifu AAan ayatiyaallatheena yatakabbaroona fee al-ardi bighayri alhaqqiwa-in yaraw kulla ayatin la yu/minoo bihawa-in yaraw sabeela alrrushdi la yattakhithoohusabeelan wa-in yaraw sabeela alghayyi yattakhithoohusabeelan thalika bi-annahum kaththaboo bi-ayatinawakanoo AAanha ghafileena
I will turn away from My revelations those who are arrogant on the earth without right, and if they see every sign they do not believe in it, and if they see the path of guidance they do not take it as a path; and if they see the path of mischief, they take it as a path. That is because they have denied Our revelations and were heedless of them.

2:6 ان الذين كفروا سواء عليهم ءانذرتهم ام لم تنذرهم لا يؤمنون
Inna allatheena kafaroo sawaonAAalayhim aanthartahum am lam tunthirhum layu/minoona
As for those who reject, whether you warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe.

2:7 ختم الله علىا قلوبهم وعلىا سمعهم وعلىا ابصارهم غشاوة ولهم عذاب عظيم
Khatama Allahu AAala quloobihimwaAAala samAAihim waAAala absarihim ghishawatunwalahum AAathabun AAatheemun
God has sealed their hearts and their ears, and over their eyes are covers. They will incur a great retribution.

Now i want to talk something that caught my interest and that is what belief by permission meant? Take a look in the previous and after verses for context.

Dont worry siblings, this is not a critique, just a discussion. Also check 14:11.

I wonder what is your thoughts on this?

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Science / Can someone refute this?
« on: June 28, 2020, 01:18:06 PM »
Salam/Peace everyone. I came across a video made by a atheist that made claims against a video made by Rational Religion the video RR made was about a response to  Dawkins argument known as Ultimate 747 gambit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN2w4GLCj_A

This is the video i am referring to. I sadly don't know much about but she made a claim that natural laws are the order of the universe (correct me if i am wrong).

I have asked someone else before in Reddit message, i think sister Reel has seen this video and i think she made a rebuttal towards this but i sadly don't remember it well.

Can someone refute this atheist?  I'm sorry if i am asking something big but this has been bothering me for a while and it would be great if someone can refute this?

Edit: I forgot to add that there was a comment that critiqued the atheist video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN2w4GLCj_A&lc=UghkwcyEtYimIHgCoAEC

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Archeology & History / Who was Al-Jahiz?
« on: April 25, 2020, 12:20:14 AM »
Salam/Peace dear siblings of Mankind and Allah (SWTAY) bless you all  :group: :group:

I have a question about Al-Jahiz's position. I have seeing claims that Al-Jahiz was a critic which i thought was very interesting. However i had a hard time finding any information on his criticism of hadith, the only one i found was Ignacio Sanchez scribd document but i can only read few pages because of the trial version:


https://www.scribd.com/document/326642601/Ignacio-Sanchez-Al-jahiz-and-Hadith-Criticism

I wonder if there is some documentation of Al-Jahiz's critique of Hadith transmission and it's colllection.

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Salam/Peace everyone. I hope everyone is doing well in these troubling times. I came across a long article about the claim that that hadith was written during the time of Prophet Muhammad. I wonder if anyone could respond to this:

https://www.call-to-monotheism.com/refuting_the_argument_that_the_hadith_have_been_collected_200_years_after_the_death_of_the_prophet_and_therefore_are_unreliable_

Salam/Peace.

I wonder if there really was any hadith manuscripts of Bukhari that were discovered that proven to be from 600s because i have not seen one right now.

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Off-Topic / Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
« on: January 30, 2020, 09:26:18 AM »
What do you guys think of the Corona virus?

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The site went into maintenance. Did something happened? I hope it was not a hacking or something.

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Salam/Peace everyone, there is a video that has a critique on Qur'an Alone position and i wonder what your thoughts on this video and his arguments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1sIcQPuGp4

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Off-Topic / Missing text, partial or full. It needs to be fixed.
« on: June 27, 2019, 05:41:43 AM »
Salam/Peace everyone. There is a an issue i have noticed for a more than a year and it's that some posts and replies have missing text and you have click on quote to see the text and it's because of that diamond shaped figure with a question mark on it.

There are 2 interesting links i have found so far.

https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=535251.0

https://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Why_do_I_have_partially_blank_or_missing_text_in_posts


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