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Archeology & History / Who was Al-Jahiz?
« on: April 25, 2020, 12:20:14 AM »
Salam/Peace dear siblings of Mankind and Allah (SWTAY) bless you all  :group: :group:

I have a question about Al-Jahiz's position. I have seeing claims that Al-Jahiz was a critic which i thought was very interesting. However i had a hard time finding any information on his criticism of hadith, the only one i found was Ignacio Sanchez scribd document but i can only read few pages because of the trial version:


https://www.scribd.com/document/326642601/Ignacio-Sanchez-Al-jahiz-and-Hadith-Criticism

I wonder if there is some documentation of Al-Jahiz's critique of Hadith transmission and it's colllection.

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Salam/Peace everyone. I hope everyone is doing well in these troubling times. I came across a long article about the claim that that hadith was written during the time of Prophet Muhammad. I wonder if anyone could respond to this:

https://www.call-to-monotheism.com/refuting_the_argument_that_the_hadith_have_been_collected_200_years_after_the_death_of_the_prophet_and_therefore_are_unreliable_

Salam/Peace.

I wonder if there really was any hadith manuscripts of Bukhari that were discovered that proven to be from 600s because i have not seen one right now.

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Off-Topic / Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
« on: January 30, 2020, 09:26:18 AM »
What do you guys think of the Corona virus?

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The site went into maintenance. Did something happened? I hope it was not a hacking or something.

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Salam/Peace everyone, there is a video that has a critique on Qur'an Alone position and i wonder what your thoughts on this video and his arguments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1sIcQPuGp4

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Off-Topic / Missing text, partial or full. It needs to be fixed.
« on: June 27, 2019, 05:41:43 AM »
Salam/Peace everyone. There is a an issue i have noticed for a more than a year and it's that some posts and replies have missing text and you have click on quote to see the text and it's because of that diamond shaped figure with a question mark on it.

There are 2 interesting links i have found so far.

https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=535251.0

https://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Why_do_I_have_partially_blank_or_missing_text_in_posts


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Questions/Comments on the Quran / An Critic on Qur'anic Ayats
« on: May 23, 2019, 09:52:35 AM »
Salam/Peace everyone. I just came across a Ex-Muslim who seemed to "exposed miracles" of Qur'an and i wonder if any of you can help me on this.

Now i noticed in of his points about "Egg-Earth or Flat Earth" which he uses like dahaha, brother Qur'an Centric has made 2 videos about the Earth shape and he touched on the root word definitions of the words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hOQfxtqPj0 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-YBkg4IY84

The Ex-Muslim known as Amar Khan also seems use verses like the Iron Sign (57:25) to make it look like it's not a miracle because it was known before Muhammad. Here is a problem of his claim. While the Qur'an IS a revelation, it's also a REMINDER, Qur'an does contain some new revealing things, there is also REMINDERS in the Qur'an (38:1, 21:10)

https://www.scribd.com/document/31782370


I hope i am not putting a burden to you siblings. I just don't have enough much scientific knowledge on branches like embryology or astronomy and i hope anyone here who is willing to review critically on this.

P.S My advice is check the context of the verses.

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General Issues / Questions / A Christian dishonesty on 9:62.
« on: May 19, 2019, 12:22:18 AM »
Salam everyone, i just came across this video and honestly, just watch it, you are going see me rant a little: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtQ3QcPCplA

Honestly i am absolutely speechless and dumbfounded how he lies about the Arabic words he is claiming. First of he claims that waAllahu warasooluhu (والله ورسوله) is plural........i mean what?! Plural means more than 3! And next thing he says that yurdoo is SINGULAR yet in 9:62, IT IS PLURAL. Allah (SWTAY) says liyurdookum (ليرضوكم) which is PLURAL and referring to does who harms the Prophet (9:61) and also says yurdoohu which is also PLURAL (يرضوه), yes one of the pronoun is singular but other one is plural. You can check the grammar here: http://quranix.org/9#62

Here is a screenshot of yurdoohu:




Plus the guy even ignores verse like 43:84, 21:108, 20:98, 16:51, 6:19, 4:171, 14:52, 2:163, 18:110, 20:98 that says that He is One God.

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Salam/Peace everyone. I am wondering when people claim on 16:15; 21:31; 31:10; 78:6-7; 88:19 that the "mountains were not created to keep the earth from convulsing" and that they were a result of the earth's convulstions. But something tells me they may not be telling the whole story or being dishonest.

I found this claim here in this forum: https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=15403.msg148711#msg148711

Sorry if i brought up a old topic. It's just kept bothering my mind.

Salam/Peace.

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Sunni/Shia Religion / Shia's claim on Qur'anic Verses
« on: May 08, 2019, 08:59:17 PM »
Salam/Peace everyone, i came across a Shia website and it uses Qur'anic verses that is "supposed" to support a Shia Imam Caliphate but i am not sure about that.

Here is the article: http://why-sunnis-convert-to-shia.com/quranic-verses-of-imamate/

And i noticed they did some distorting like 33:33 which their translation is off

33:33. And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance; and establish regular Prayer, and give regular Charity; and obey Allah and His Messenger. And Allah only wishes to remove all abomination from you, ye members of the Family, and to make you pure and spotless. (Fatima, Ali, Hasan, Hussein)

In this lined part the word Bayt does not mean Family, that's 'âla (ءال):

Alif-Waw-Lam - To return, be before, come back to. To interpret [by consideration], explain. To contract, withdraw, become. To preside over, hold command or authority. To come to be. To put in a proper state/condition, or to compose [an affair]. To resort to; namely [a thing of any kind; the thing or place whence he or it originated, or came. His or its origin or source; his or its original state, condition, quantity, weight; any place. A former action, saying, or the like]. To return or restore to [ a thing, place, or disposition]. To explain, expound, interpret [collecting the meanings of dubious expressions by such expression as is clear, or plain, without dubiousness]. To explain the meaning of that which is equivocal or ambiguous. To be seen from a distance.

al n.m. 2:49, 2:50, 2:248, 2:248, 3:11, 3:33, 3:33, 4:54, 7:130, 7:141, 8:52, 8:54, 8:54, 12:6, 14:6, 15:59, 15:61, 19:6, 27:56, 28:8, 34:13, 40:28, 40:45, 40:46, 54:34, 54:41

awwal n. num. (f. ula) 2:41, 3:96, 5:114, 6:14, 6:94, 6:110, 6:163, 7:38, 7:39, 7:143, 9:13, 9:83, 9:108, 17:5, 17:7, 17:51, 18:48, 20:21, 20:51, 20:65, 20:133, 21:104, 26:51, 28:43, 28:70, 33:33, 36:79, 37:59, 39:12, 41:21, 43:81, 44:35, 44:56, 50:15, 53:25, 53:50, 53:56, 56:62, 57:3, 59:2, 79:25, 87:18, 92:13, 93:4

awwalun n.m. (pl. of awwal) 6:25, 8:31, 8:38, 9:100, 15:10, 15:13, 16:24, 17:59, 18:55, 21:5, 23:24, 23:68, 23:81, 23:83, 25:5, 26:26, 26:137, 26:184, 26:196, 27:68, 28:36, 35:43, 37:17, 37:71, 37:126, 37:168, 43:6, 43:8, 44:8, 46:17, 56:13, 56:39, 56:48, 56:49, 68:15, 77:16, 77:38, 83:13

awwala vb. (2) n.vb. 3:7, 3:7, 4:59, 7:53, 7:53, 10:39, 12:6, 12:21, 12:36, 12:37, 12:44, 12:45, 12:100, 12:101, 17:35, 18:78, 18:82

Lane's Lexicon, Volume 1, pages: 162, 163, 164, 165  ##  http://ejtaal.net/aa/#q=awl

And Bayt:

Ba-Ya-Ta (ب ي ت) =

by/in/at night (excluding sleep), entered upon or passed the night
tent, house, home
Thinking about something and its end result
Concealed or conceived something in the mind
A structure of clay or any structure signifying a habitation, an abode or dwelling.
Buildings, uninhabited houses, shops, ruins, bazaars, places where the entering is allowed by the owners.
Ark of Noah, Mosques, places of worship, Kaabeh or Jerusalem
A grave
Household or family
Nobility
Sudden attack in the night or a surprise attack in the night
Remaining through the night (e.g. bread or water that stays out and becomes stale)

bata vb. (1) impf. act. 25:64

bayat n.m. 7:4, 7:97, 10:50

bayt n.m. (pl. buyut)
2:125, 2:125, 2:127, 2:158, 3:96, 3:97, 5:2, 5:97, 8:35, 11:73, 14:37, 22:26, 22:26, 22:29, 22:33, 24:36, 33:33, 52:4, 106:3
2:189, 2:189, 3:49, 3:154, 4:15, 4:100, 7:74, 8:5, 10:87, 10:87, 12:23, 15:82, 16:68, 16:80, 16:80, 17:93, 24:27, 24:27, 24:29, 24:61 (x10), 26:149, 27:52, 28:12, 29:41 (x3), 33:13, 33:33, 33:34, 33:53, 43:33, 43:34, 51:36, 59:2, 65:1, 66:11, 71:28

bayyata vb. (2)
perf. act. 4:81
impf. act. 4:81, 4:108, 27:49

LL, V1, p: 316, 317, 318  ##  http://ejtaal.net/aa/#q=byt


Another distortion they made is 38:26:

38:26. O David! We did indeed make thee an Imam on earth: so judge thou between men in truth (and justice): Nor follow thou the lusts (of thy heart), for they will mislead thee from the Path of Allah. for those who wander astray from the Path of Allah, is a Penalty Grievous, for that they forget the Day of Account.

In this lined part is a mistranslation, the word here is khalîfatan (خليفة) which means successor:

Kh-Lam-Fa = To follow/come after/succeed another, substitute or supersede, to supply/be a supplier to someone, to restore or replace a thing to someone, smite or strike from behind, yearn towards other than one's spouse (in the spouses absence/behind his or her back), speak of/mention someone behind his or her back, remain behind/not go forth, to be kept back from all good, to not prosper or be successful, to become corrupt or altered for the worse, retire/withdraw/go away, to turn away from/avoid/shun a thing, to become foolish/idiotic/deficient in intellect, contrarious/hard in disposition, to leave behind, to appoint someone as successor, disagree with or differ from someone, contradict or oppose someone, to break/fail to perform a promise, to follow reciprocally/alternate/interchange, repeatedly move to and fro (coming and going), to differ/ be dissimilar

khalafa vb. (1)
perf. act. 7:150, 7:169, 19:59
impf. act. 43:60
impv. 7:142
pcple. act. 9:83

khalf n.m. 2:66, 2:255, 3:170, 4:9, 7:17, 7:169, 8:57, 10:92, 13:11, 19:59, 19:64, 20:110, 21:28, 22:76, 34:9, 36:9, 36:45, 41:14, 41:25, 41:42, 46:21, 72:27

khalifah n.m. (pl. khala'if) 2:30, 6:165, 7:69, 7:74, 10:14, 10:73, 27:62, 35:39, 38:26

khawalif n.f. (pl. of khalifah) 9:87, 9:93

khilaf n.m. 5:33, 7:124, 9:81, 17:76, 20:71, 26:49

khilafah n.f. 25:62

khallafa vb. (2)
perf. pass. 9:118
pcple. pass. 9:81, 48:11, 48:15, 48:16

khalafa vb. (3) impf. act. 11:88, 24:63

akhlafa vb. (4)
perf. act. 9:77, 14:22, 20:86, 20:87
impf. act. 2:80, 3:9, 3:194, 13:31, 20:58, 22:47, 30:6, 34:39, 39:20
impf. pass. 20:97
pcple. act. 14:47

takhallafa vb. (5) impf. act. 9:120

ikhtalafa vb. (8)
perf. act. 2:176, 2:213, 2:213, 2:213, 2:253, 3:19, 3:105, 4:157, 8:42, 10:19, 10:93, 16:64, 16:124, 19:37, 42:10, 43:65, 45:17
impf. act. 2:113, 3:55, 5:48, 6:164, 10:19, 10:93, 16:39, 16:92, 16:124, 22:69, 27:76, 32:25, 39:3, 39:46, 43:63, 45:17
perf. pass. 11:110, 41:45
n.vb. 2:164, 3:190, 4:82, 10:6, 23:80, 30:22, 45:5
pcple. act. 6:141, 11:118, 16:13, 16:69, 35:27, 35:27, 35:28, 39:21, 51:8, 78:3

istakhlafa vb. (10)
perf. act. 24:55
impf. act. 6:133, 7:129, 11:57, 24:55
pcple. pass. 57:7

LL, V2, p: 428, 429, 430, 431, 432, 433, 434, 435  ##  http://ejtaal.net/aa/#q=xlf


And also 2:124 is also a mistranslation:

2:124. And remember that Abraham was tried by his Lord with certain commands, which he fulfilled: He said: “I will make thee an Imam to the Nations.” He pleaded: “And also (Imams) from my offspring!” He answered: “But My Promise is not within the reach of evil-doers.

Here they translated Al-Nâsi as Nations but that is not true, it's people or Mankind:

Nun-Waw-Siin = to swing, halt in a place, move, toss. Mankind, people, others, men.

nas (pl. of insan)
2:8, 2:13, 2:21, 2:24, 2:44, 2:83, 2:94, 2:96, 2:102, 2:124, 2:125, 2:142, 2:143, 2:143, 2:150, 2:159, 2:161, 2:164, 2:165, 2:168, 2:185, 2:187, 2:188, 2:189, 2:199, 2:200, 2:204, 2:207, 2:213, 2:219, 2:221, 2:224, 2:243, 2:243, 2:251, 2:259, 2:264, 2:273, 3:4, 3:9, 3:14, 3:21, 3:41, 3:46, 3:68, 3:79, 3:87, 3:96, 3:97, 3:110, 3:112, 3:134, 3:138, 3:140, 3:173, 3:173, 3:187, 4:1, 4:37, 4:38, 4:53, 4:54, 4:58, 4:77, 4:79, 4:105, 4:108, 4:114, 4:133, 4:142, 4:161, 4:165, 4:170, 4:174, 5:32, 5:32, 5:44, 5:49, 5:67, 5:82, 5:97, 5:110, 5:116, 6:91, 6:122, 6:144, 7:85, 7:116, 7:144, 7:158, 7:187, 8:26, 8:47, 8:48, 9:3, 9:34, 10:2, 10:2, 10:11, 10:19, 10:21, 10:23, 10:24, 10:44, 10:44, 10:57, 10:60, 10:92, 10:99, 10:104, 10:108, 11:17, 11:85, 11:103, 11:118, 11:119, 12:21, 12:38, 12:38, 12:40, 12:46, 12:49, 12:68, 12:103, 13:1, 13:6, 13:17, 13:31, 14:1, 14:25, 14:36, 14:37, 14:44, 14:52, 16:38, 16:44, 16:61, 16:69, 17:60, 17:60, 17:89, 17:89, 17:94, 17:106, 18:54, 18:55, 19:10, 19:21, 20:59, 21:2, 21:61, 22:1, 22:2, 22:3, 22:5, 22:8, 22:11, 22:18, 22:25, 22:27, 22:40, 22:49, 22:65, 22:73, 22:75, 22:78, 24:35, 25:37, 25:50, 26:39, 26:183, 27:16, 27:73, 27:82, 28:23, 28:43, 29:2, 29:10, 29:10, 29:43, 29:67, 30:6, 30:8, 30:30, 30:30, 30:33, 30:36, 30:39, 30:41, 30:58, 31:6, 31:18, 31:20, 31:33, 32:13, 33:37, 33:63, 34:28, 34:28, 34:36, 35:2, 35:3, 35:5, 35:15, 35:28, 35:45, 38:26, 39:27, 39:41, 40:57, 40:57, 40:59, 40:61, 40:61, 42:42, 43:33, 44:11, 45:20, 45:26, 46:6, 47:3, 48:20, 49:13, 54:20, 57:24, 57:25, 57:25, 59:21, 62:6, 66:6, 83:2, 83:6, 99:6, 101:4, 110:2, 114:1, 114:2, 114:3, 114:5, 114:6

Lane's Lexicon, Volume 8, pages: 120, 121  ##  http://ejtaal.net/aa/#q=nws

And their translation of 17:71 is odd:

17:71. One day We shall call together all human beings with their (respective) Imams: those who are given their record in their right hand will read it (with pleasure), and they will not be dealt with unjustly in the least.

Here the word Imam does occur but it's singular, not plural as they translated. In context, this is about Allah's (SWTAY) servants and the ships (Read from 17:54)

And their translation of 2:30 is also odd:

2:30.  And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, “Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority.” They said, “Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?” Allah said, “Indeed, I know that which you do not know.”

Here the word authority or Amrun does not occur in the Arabic text of Qur'an.

Amrun root word:

Alif-Meem-Ra (ا م ر) = command/order/enjoin, authority/power/dominion, counselled/advised/consulted, hold/appoint command, preside as a commander/governor/prince/king, experienced, become many/abundant.

Amara (prf. 3rd. p. m. sing.): He commanded.
Amaruu (prf. 3rd. p. m. plu.): They commanded.
Amarta (prf. 2nd p. m. sing.): Thou Commanded.
Amarnaa (prf. 1st. p. plu.) We commanded.
Ya'muru (imp. 3rd. p. m. sing.): He commands.
Ya'muruuna (imp. 3rd. m. plu.): They command.
Ta'muriina (imp. 2nd. p. f. sing.) Thou command.
Ta'muruuna (imp. 2nd. p. m. plu.): You command.
Aamuru (imp. 1st p. sing.): I command.
Aamuranna (imp. 1st. p. sing. emp.): I surely will command.
U'mur (prt. m. sing.): Give command.
Umiruu (pp. 3rd p. m. plu.): They were given command.
Umirtu (pp. 1st. p. sing): I was commanded.
Umirnaa (pp.1st. p. plu): We were commanded.
Yu'maru (pip. 3rd. p. m. sing.): He is commanded.
Yu'maruuna (pip. 3rd. m. plu.): They are commanded.
Tu'mar (pip. 2nd. p.m. sing.): Thou art commanded.
Tu'maruuna (pip. 2nd. p. m. plu.): You are commanded.
Ya'tamiruuna (imp. 3rd. p.m. plu. VIII): They are taking counsel.
I'tamiruu (prt. m. plu. VIII): Take counsel.
Amrun (n.): Matter; Affair; News; Command; Authority.
Umuur (n. plu.): Affairs; Matters; Commands.
Imrun (n.): Grievous.
Aamiruun (act. pic. m. plu.): Those who command.
Ammaaratun (intransitive. f.): Wont to command.

amara vb. (1)
perf. act. 2:27, 2:222, 4:114, 5:117, 7:12, 7:28, 7:29, 12:40, 12:68, 13:21, 13:25, 17:16, 22:41, 24:53, 66:6, 80:23, 96:12
impf. act. 2:44, 2:67, 2:93, 2:169, 2:268, 3:21, 3:80, 3:80, 3:104, 3:110, 3:114, 4:37, 4:58, 4:119, 4:119, 7:28, 7:110, 7:157, 9:67, 9:71, 11:87, 12:32, 16:76, 16:90, 19:55, 24:21, 25:60, 26:35, 27:33, 34:33, 39:64, 52:32, 57:24
impv. 7:145, 7:199, 20:132, 31:17
perf. pass. 4:60, 6:14, 6:71, 6:163, 9:31, 10:72, 10:104, 11:112, 13:36, 27:91, 27:91, 39:11, 29:12, 40:66, 42:15, 42:15, 98:5
impf. pass. 2:68, 15:65, 15:94, 16:50, 37:102, 66:6
n.vb. 2:109, 2:117, 2:210, 2:210, 2:275, 3:47, 3:109, 3:128, 3:147, 3:152, 3:154, 3:154, 3:154, 3:159, 3:186, 4:47, 4:59, 4:83, 4:83, 5:52, 5:95, 6:8, 6:58, 6:159, 7:54, 7:54, 7:77, 7:150, 8:42, 8:43, 8:44, 8:44, 9:24, 9:48, 9:50, 9:106, 10:3, 10:24, 10:31, 10:71, 10:71, 11:40, 11:43, 11:44, 11:58, 11:59, 11:66, 11:73, 11:76, 11:82, 1:94, 11:97, 11:97, 11:101, 11:123, 12:15, 12:18, 12:21, 12:41, 12:83, 12:102, 13:2, 13:11, 13:31, 14:22, 14:32, 15:66, 16:1, 16:2, 16:12, 16:33, 16:77, 17:85, 18:10, 18:16, 18:21, 18:28, 18:50, 18:69, 18:73, 18:82, 18:88, 19:21, 19:35, 19:39, 19:64, 20:26, 20:32, 20:62, 20:90, 20:93, 21:27, 21:73, 21:81, 21:93, 22:41, 22:65, 22:67, 22:76, 23:27, 23:53, 24:62, 24:63, 26:151, 27:32, 27:32, 27:33, 28:44, 30:4, 30:25, 30:46, 31:17, 31:22, 32:5, 32:24, 33:36, 33:37, 33:38, 34:12, 35:4, 36:82, 38:36, 40:15, 40:44, 40:68, 40:78, 41:12, 42:38, 42:43, 42:52, 42:53, 43:79, 44:4, 44:5, 45:12, 45:17, 45:18, 46:25, 47:21, 47:26, 49:7, 49:9, 50:5, 51:4, 51:44, 54:3, 54:12, 54:50, 57:5, 59:15, 64:5, 65:1, 65:3, 65:4, 65:5, 65:8, 65:9, 65:12, 79:5, 82:19, 97:4
pcple. act. 9:112

ammar n.m. 12:53, 18:71

imr n.m. 28:20

i'tamara vb. (8)
impf. act. 28:20
impv. 65:6

Lane's Lexicon, Volume 1, pages: 132, 133, 134, 135, 136  ##  http://ejtaal.net/aa/#q=amr

Now they state that only Allah who can appoint an Imam or Caliph, that is true but i don't see how exactly this is supporting the Shia position and plus the word Imam means Leader or President:

Alif-Miim-Miim (ا م م) =
ammina: to propose, direct one's steps towards a place, repair to, go towards [5:2]
ummun/umm: mother, source, principle, prototype, origin, prototype;
ummi: belonging to mother, unlettered, Arab, who have no revealed scripture of their own;
ummatun: a man's kinsfolk, tribe, party, community, nation, group of living things having certain characteristics or circumstances in common, any grouping of human or animal, creation, generation, creatures of God;
ummah: way/course/manner/mode of acting, faith, religion, nation, , time or period of time, righteous person, a person who is an object of imitation and who is known for goodness/virtues;
imam: leader, president, any object that is followed (e.g. human/book/highway), model, example, pattern;
amama: before, in front of [75:5]

amma vb. (1) pcple. act. 5:2

amam n.m. 75:5

imam n.m. (pl. a'immah) 2:124, 9:12, 11:17, 15:79, 17:71, 21:73, 25:74, 28:5, 28:41, 32:24, 36:12, 46:12

umm n.f. (pl. ummahat) 3:7, 4:11, 4:11, 4:23, 4:23, 4:23, 5:17, 5:75, 5:116, 6:92, 7:150, 13:39, 16:78, 19:28, 20:38, 20:40, 20:94, 23:50, 24:61, 28:7, 28:10, 28:13, 28:59, 31:14, 33:4, 33:6, 39:6, 42:7, 43:4, 46:15, 53:32, 58:2, 58:2, 80:35, 101:9

ummah n.f. (pl. umam) 2:128, 2:134, 2:141, 2:143, 2:213, 3:104, 3:110, 3:113, 4:41, 5:48, 5:66, 6:38, 6:42, 6:108, 7:34, 7:38, 7:38, 7:159, 7:160, 7:164, 7:168, 7:181, 10:19, 10:47, 10:49, 11:8, 11:48, 11:48, 11:118, 12:45, 13:30, 15:5, 16:36, 16:63, 16:84, 16:89, 16:92, 16:92, 16:93, 16:120, 21:92, 21:92, 22:34, 22:67, 23:43, 23:44, 23:52, 23:52, 27:83, 28:23, 28:75, 29:18, 35:24, 35:42, 40:5, 41:25, 42:8, 43:22, 43:23, 43:33, 45:28, 45:28, 46:18

ummiy n.m. 2:78, 3:20, 3:75, 7:157, 7:158, 62:2

Lane's Lexicon, Volume 1, page: 125, 126, 127, 128, 129  ##  http://ejtaal.net/aa/#q=amm

So what do you think dear siblings, i would like to hear your thoughts on this?

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