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#1
As-salaamu 'alaikum!

I found an article online:

Being taught the Qur?an

The article starts from the point when Lady Maryam (Mary) (peace be upon her) was given the good news, by Allah through an Angel, of Prophet Eisa (عليه السلام) and with that good news, it was stated that he would be taught some books.

اذ قالت الملائكة يامريم ان الله يبشرك بكلمة منه اسمه المسيح عيسى ابن مريم وجيها في الدنيا والاخرة ومن المقربين ? ويكلم الناس في المهد وكهلا ومن الصالحين ? قالت رب انى يكون لي ولد ولم يمسسني بشر قال كذلك الله يخلق مايشاء اذا قضى امرا فانما يقول له كن فيكون ? ويعلمه الكتاب والحكمة والتوراة والانجيل

When the angels said: ?Maryam, your Lord gives you good news of a Word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Issa, son of Maryam, of high esteem in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near [to Allah]. He will speak to people in the cradle, and also when fully grown, and will be one of the righteous.? She asked: ?My Lord! How can I have a son when no man has ever touched me?? He said: ?It will be so. Allah creates whatever He wills. When He decides on something, He just says to it: ?Be!? and it is. He will teach him the Book and Wisdom, and the Torah and the Injeel.?[3]

اذ قال الله ياعيسى ابن مريم اذكر نعمتي عليك وعلى والدتك اذ ايدتك بروح القدس تكلم الناس في المهد وكهلا واذ علمتك الكتاب والحكمة والتوراة والانجيل

(That day) Allah will say, ?Issa, son of Maryam, remember My blessing to you and to your mother when I reinforced you with the Purest Spirit so that you could speak to people in the cradle and when you were fully grown; and when I taught you the Book and Wisdom, and the Torah and the Injeel.?[4]

Torah and Injeel are very clear but about the Book and Wisdom? It is true that the Qur?an refers to many other books as ?The Book? but this ?Book? is mentioned separately from Torah and Injeel.

This book is the Qur?an and wisdom is the Sunnah recorded in Hadith [the sayings of Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ)]. Prophet Eisa (عليه السلام) is taught the Qur?an because he will use it during his second coming as Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) has also stated.[5] Deniers have asked some questions regarding these verses.


He makes a lot of claims, what do you think?

Wasalaam!
#3
Salamun Alaikum  :group:

2:186   Ramadhan, a month in which the Qur'an was sent down, as a guide to the people and as clarifications of the guidance and the criterion. Those of you who witness the month shall fast therein; and those who are ill or traveling may substitute the same number from different days. Allah wants to bring you ease and not to bring you hardship; and so that you may complete the count, and magnify Allah for what He has guided you, that you may be thankful.

So, what does the above verse mean? Wasn't the Quran revealed gradually?!

Wassalam!
#4
Salamun Alaikum!

Muslims today are disputing about that Nasara means Nazarenes and not Christians, especially on facebook.

What is the correct meaning of Nasara?

   9:30 The Yahood said: "Ezra is God's son," and the Nasara said: "The Messiah is God's son." Such is their utterances with their mouths (Yahood and Nasara), they imitate the sayings of those who rejected before them. God will fight them. They are deluded from the truth!

Nazarene beliefs:

The beliefs of the Nazarene sect or sects are described through various church fathers and heresiologists.

    in Jesus as Messiah:

    The Nazarenes... accept Messiah in such a way that they do not cease to observe the old Law.
    ?Jerome, On. Is. 8:14

    in the Virgin Birth:

    They believe that Messiah, the Son of God, was born of the Virgin Mary.
    ?Jerome,  Letter 75 Jerome to Augustine

    in Jesus as the Son of God:

    Matthew, also called Levi, apostle and aforetimes publican, composed a gospel of Christ at first published in Judea in Hebrew for the sake of those of the circumcision who believed, but this was afterwards translated into Greek though by what author is uncertain. The Hebrew itself has been preserved until the present day in the library at C?sarea which Pamphilus so diligently gathered. I have also had the opportunity of having the volume described to me by the Nazarenes of Beroea, a city of Syria, who use it. In this it is to be noted that wherever the Evangelist, whether on his own account or in the person of our Lord the Saviour quotes the testimony of the Old Testament he does not follow the authority of the translators of the Septuagint but the Hebrew. Wherefore these two forms exist ?Out of Egypt have I called my son,? and ?for he shall be called a Nazarene.?
    ?Jerome, Lives of Illustrius Men Ch.3

    They have no different ideas, but confess everything exactly as the Law proclaims it and in the Jewish fashion ? except for their belief in Christ, if you please! For they acknowledge both the resurrection of the dead and the divine creation of all things, and declare that God is one, and that his Son is Jesus Christ.
    ?Epiphanius of Salamis, Panarion 29.7.2

    Adhering to circumcision and the Law of Moses:

    They disagree with Jews because they have come to faith in Christ; but since they are still fettered by the Law ? circumcision, the Sabbath, and the rest ? they are not in accord with the Christians.
    ?Epiphanius of Salamis, Panarion 29.7.4

    Use of Old Testament and New Testament:

    They use not only the New Testament but the Old Testament as well, as the Jews do.
    ?Epiphanius of Salamis, Panarion 29.7.2

    Use of Hebrew and Aramaic New Testament source texts:

    They have the Gospel according to Matthew in its entirety in Hebrew. For it is clear that they still preserve this, in the Hebrew alphabet, as it was originally written.
    ?Epiphanius of Salamis, Panarion 29.9.4

    And he [Heggesippus the Nazarene] quotes some passages from the Gospel according to the Hebrews and from the Syriac [the Aramaic], and some particulars from the Hebrew tongue, showing that he was a convert from the Hebrews, and he mentions other matters as taken from the oral tradition of the Jews.
    ?Eusebius of Caesarea, Ecclesiastical History 4.22

Any thoughts about this?

Wassalam,
Ijaz A.
#5
Salamun Alaikum!

There is a verse that is really bugging me. .

48:9    That you may believe in God and His messenger, and that you may support Him, honor Him, and glorify Him, morning and evening.

What does this verse really mean?!  :&

Wassalam!
#6
Salamun Alaikum!

I was arguing with a Sunni about circumcision and he gave me 2.124:

And, when Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people." [Abraham] said, "And of my descendants?" [ Allah ] said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers."

Sunni said: What were those commands Ijaz that Abraham fulfilled...??

And he further said:  Ijaz are you denying the blessed and Most High made a covenant with Abraham and his seed regarding circumcision...??What was the covenant Allah made with Abraham?

Any thoughts?

Wassalam
#7
Salamun Alaikum!

From a Sunni Guy: Allah created the universe because of Muhammad (SAW), Even when Adam committed the Sin he begged Allah with Muhammad because he said when he Opened his eyes he saw at the foot of the Throne of Allah the name Muhammad that shows the greatness..

Me: Oh Yes! Glorify Muhammad! Start worshipping him also. . . The Messenger will "do Shafa'ut for you"

Sunni Guy:  Lol! Ijaz, Even Allah allows Such.. Its called Waseelah.. Ignorance!!

===============
Total Kufr, Gloryfying Muhammad and Adam begged Allah with Muhammad (Waseelah)
Is Waseelah allowed?

This is why this Ummah is in a sad state  :'(

Wassalam
Ijaz, A.
#8
Salamun Alaikum  :handshake:

Sunnis ask some questions to justify their hadith collections. . .

((1)) -- Why do u accept the Qur'an, compiled by those narrators/sahabas the job which was done after the death of the Prophet.

((2)) --  It is not from everybody rather than the trustworthy people, the sahaba collected the Qur'an (Made it into a book form). So if you reject hadiths, then why do you believe in the Qur'an?

((3)) -- You said the hadith collections are not protected by God? Are they protected as they memorize, standards and compiled the Holy Qur'an? -- What does he mean?  :hypno:

And then the Sunni said: The kafeer of sunnah would remain a kafeer untill he accepted the sunnah  :rotfl:

Wassalam  :peace:
Ijaz, A.
#9
Salamun Alaikum!  :group:

A very close friend of mine trying to bring me back to hadiths. He sent a link. I read through it and started to have many questions in my mind. Perhaps someone can help me here with my questions.

Sahih

Al-Shafi`i states the following requirement in order for a hadith which is not Mutawatir to be acceptable:

"Each reporter should be trustworthy in his religion; he should be known to be truthful in his narrating, to understand what he narrates, to know how a different expression can alter the meaning, and report the wording of the hadith verbatim, not only its meaning. This is because if he does not know how a different expression can change the whole meaning, he will not know if he has changed what is lawful into what is prohibited. Hence, if he reports the hadith according to its wording, no change of meaning will be found at all. Moreover, he should be a good memoriser if he happens to report from his memory, or a good preserver of his writings if he happens to report from them. He should agree with the narrations of the huffaz (leading authorities in hadith), if he reports something which they do also. He should not be a Mudallis, who narrates from someone he met something he did not hear, nor should he report from the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) contrary to what reliable sources have reported from him. In addition, the one who is above him (in the isnad) should be of the same quality, [and so on,] until the hadith goes back uninterrupted to the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) or any authority below him."66

Ibn al-Salah, however, defines a Sahih hadith more precisely by saying:

"A Sahih hadith is the one which has a continuous isnad, made up of reporters of trustworthy memory from similar authorities, and which is found to be free from any irregularities (i.e. in the text) or defects (i.e. in the isnad)."

The Science Of Hadith

===================

((1)) -- How did Bukhari know who and who is trustworthy? Did he meet any of the narrators? All were dead!

((2)) -- How do the scholars today authenticate hadiths? I heard from someone that someone wrote biographies about the narrators.

((3)) -- There are different and many narrators, how did someone write so many biographies?
One of the requirement is good memory, how did Bukhari judge if the person has good memory or not? According to some hadiths the Prophet forgot some verses he had memorized. If he can forget then who are Abu Hurairah and Ibn Abbas? :rotfl:

((4)) -- How can they know if a hadith goes uninterrupted to the Prophet? How do they know if a chain is broken? How do they come to the conclusion that the chain is broken?

((5)) -- According to Al Shafi, The isnad and the matn must both be good, for a hadith to be a "sahih", But if the isnad is uninterrupted and the matn does not go along with the Qur'an or anything whatsoever, what will the scholar do? :o

((6)) -- Today we see many Sunnis rejecting some "Sahih" hadiths, if the isnad is good and the narrators are trustworthy then why are they rejecting some hadiths? -- Then it means they are going against "science of hadith" which their scholars use to authenticate the hadiths.  :hypno:

Wassalam  :peace:
Ijaz, A.
#10
Hadith Discussions / Ahad hadiths..
May 21, 2014, 08:07:12 AM
Salamun Alaikum!
Something pestered me for several days. There are many hadiths which are only narrated by ONE (Ahad hadiths), for an example, by Aisha, Ibn Abbas, Abu Hurairah and BY MANY OTHERS.

So what method did Bukhary, Muslim and all other guys who collected hadiths use to verify and authenticate these ahad hadiths? And where did they get these ahad hadiths from? Did someone tell these ahad hadiths to them? I'm really confused!

Example:

Found in: Taharah (Purification)
Hadith no: 117
Narrated: Aisha
that she washed mani from the Prophet's (SAW) garments . [Muslim 289, Nisai 294, Ibn e Majah 536, Abu Dawud 373, Bukhari 230]

?Ā?ishah bint Abī Bakr (b. 613/614 CE ? d. 678 CE)

Abū ?Abd Allāh Muḥammad ibn Ismā?īl ibn Ibrāhīm ibn al-Mughīrah ibn Bardizbah al-Ju?fī al-Bukhārī (b. 19 July 810 ?  d. September 870)

Bukhari was born 130 years after Aisha?s death. So in what way did he verify/authenticate the hadith above? She was dead, so it was impossible to ask her if she even said the hadith above. What method did he use? Maybe he used his own time machine? :!

Will we able to know who this man really was? How he chose 7000 hadiths from 600.000? How did he verify ahad hadiths?  :brickwall:

Wassalam
Ijaz, A.
#12
Salamun Alaikum!  :handshake:

I argued with a friend today and she said that to gain knowledge (about Islam/Qur'an) and to understand the Qur'an, one need to appoint a teacher so the teacher can teach you the right thing and so he can rightly guide you.

What she said:

1. I pity u...you misguided to the wrong path...may Allah (swt) guide u to the truth path.

2. Let me tell you,u didn't have a wisdom to grasp a knowledge of
Quran and sayings or sunna of the
prophet (saw) without a good teachers to explain for u....if u say
u can do by yourself...am telling u,
u are misled yourself....

3. U are too dull,when jibril was sent
to the prophet Muhammad (saw)
what jibril said to the prophet?
Who teaches the companions of the prophet and his family?....

^ This is all what she said  :rotfl:  :brickwall:

But, my question is: Did the Prophet teach the Qur'an to his companions or is it Allah who teaches the Qur'an and guides the people to understand it?

Can someone please give a little bit detail about this issue.. I think that we don't need Imams to teach us, they have damaged Islam more than ever and have brainwashed many with their fatwas.

Wassalam!  :group:

----------------------------Ijaz

#13
Off-Topic / Any books on hadith criticism?
May 12, 2014, 10:47:10 AM
Salamun Alaikum!  :handshake:

I want to read some books on hadith criticism. I've read a book by Kassim Ahmed.
But want more books to read. I'm hungry for some knowledge  :eat:  :yay:

So any recommendations?

May Allah guide us all and increase our knowledge  :pr
Ijaz A
#14
Salaamun Alaikum

By my Sunni friend:

A hadith rejecters once said to us
"we need only the Quran.the study of history tells us that everything else is merely the sayings,interpretations,memories
and teaching of fallible men-including the hadith, i can interprets the Quran myself i dont
need anything else" really? I said!
Then follow your advice and reject
all knowledge of the Arabic language which Quran needs in order for people to understand it.
This is because language is preserved in lexicons,dictionaries,
writings,and memories all transmitted and authored by men.
Likewise you must reject the very
"history" which caused you to come to your conclusions,for it too
is "merely the sayings, interpretations, and teaching of men",-lastly you must reject all of
your own conclusions from Quran.
Since your own conclusions are merely sayings,interpretations and teaching from yourself- a fallible man".

Answer the following questions
to determine whether it is easy
to convince a true Muslims to reject a sayings and sunna of the
prophet (saw).
1.when was the Quran revealed?.
2.can meanings of words change?.
3.if so, how do you establish the intent of Allah (swt) words at the
time of revelations?.

If the answers to the above theological questions are negative
then the hadith rejecters are un reasonable and irrational for believing in them.

Read and answer these claims!

Jazakallah!

Peace,
Ijaz
#15
Salaamun Alaikum my bro's and Srs  :group: :handshake:

A kind friend (he is a sunni) sent me a question:

Salamu Alaikum brother.Hope you are in good health.Thanks be to Almighty Allah.

Pls may I call your attention to below verse:

Quran [61:6]
And call to mind when Jesus, son of
Mary, said: ?O Children of Israel, I am
Allah's Messenger to you, I verify the
Torah which has come before me,
and I give you the glad tiding of a
Messenger who shall come after me,
his name being Ahmad.?....
............... ............... ...........
Why does the Quran mention here
AHMED and not MUHAMMAD? And how can someone hold the Qur'an as only source of guidance to understand that AHMAD is Muhammad?


I'm an ex Sunni and from hadiths we know that Ahmad = Muhammad. But how can we prove it from the Qur'an?
I've read topics about this verse in the forum, but I think that Ahmad is Muhammad. Any thoughts? What do you think?

Wassalam
Ijaz