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Peace  :peace:,
http://www.viewzone.com/abraham.html

A sample: In his History of the Jews, the Jewish scholar and theologian Flavius Josephus (37 - 100 A.D.), wrote that the Greek philosopher Aristotle had said: "...These Jews are derived from the Indian philosophers; they are named by the Indians Calani." (Book I:22.)

Clearchus of Soli wrote, "The Jews descend from the philosophers of India. The philosophers are called in India Calanians and in Syria Jews. The name of their capital is very difficult to pronounce. It is called 'Jerusalem.'"

"Megasthenes, who was sent to India by Seleucus Nicator, about three hundred years before Christ, and whose accounts from new inquiries are every day acquiring additional credit, says that the Jews 'were an Indian tribe or sect called Kalani...'" (Anacalypsis, by Godfrey Higgins, Vol. I; p. 400.)

Martin Haug, Ph.D., wrote in The Sacred Language, Writings, and Religions of the Parsis, "The Magi are said to have called their religion Kesh-î-Ibrahim.They traced their religious books to Abraham, who was believed to have brought them from heaven." (p. 16.)

There are certain striking similarities between the Hindu god Brahma and his consort Saraisvati, and the Jewish Abraham and Sarai, that are more than mere coincidences. Although in all of India there is only one temple dedicated to Brahma, this cult is the third largest Hindu sect.

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Peace  :peace:,
This question is one that I've been thinking about for months now; I'll try and phrase it in the best way possible for comprehension:
The Quran is written in ancient Arabic, meaning that it will always be up for interpretation IMHO. Nobody alive speaks this language fluently and all we have to go by is the language of hadith and tasreef from the Quran. Why would a rational God send a book that could not be understood even by those of us who are literate(and the number of illiterate people in the world are many)? Is it not contrary to the spirit of equality to send guidance in the form of a book period, considering that so many people cannot even read...and if they can, they may not understand that language?
And then there is the idea that even if the book was in fact from God, its ethics would HAVE to be rational as God is rational. Would this not make the book of little use to those who already work from a point of rationalizing their actions? If the book must be sifted though individual ethical analysis, then why not simply do that as opposed to follow the book? This question is really a form of asking if there is a special need for revelation.
I hope that was not as convoluted as it sounded coming out of my head.

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / homosexuality as a crime?
« on: September 26, 2007, 10:09:06 AM »
Salaam,
I found this written by Parwez on "Sodomy and female to female manipulation":

If two men (or two women) are guilty of lewdness, give them suitable punishment. (The punishment has not been prescribed by the Quran). But if there exists a possibility of their correction, the court in its own opinion can forgive them. (4:16) Those two men who commit such shameful act, should be suitably punished; but if they show penitence, reform and mend their ways, they should be forgiven. There is room for forgiveness in the Divine Law (which in most cases becomes a blessing in checking crimes)." The word in this verse is a masculine gender (i.e. two men) but by deduction it can also be "two women"; that is why we have included it in the heading above (which means two lesbian women. The Holy Quran has described homosexuality as the most hateful act in verses (7:81) and (27:55). This highlights the fact that such sexual acts are a crime.

Now, I live in the U.S. where several states keep sodomy laws. These laws are commonly ridiculed because they're seen as old fashioned. I am grappling with the idea that homosexuals should be punished criminally for sodomy or acts of lesbianism. Given that I am of the opinion that both are unnatural, I am not sure whether criminally sanctioning the acts would solve the problem. Or what is the purpose of the Quran making this ruling?
I was also thinking that even if homosexuality was a crime, the punishment does not rise to the level of Iranian executions given that adultery is generally punishable by lashes in the Quran and unintentional killings are also not punishable by death.

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / al-tariq
« on: May 22, 2006, 02:41:10 PM »
Peace all,
My question relates to Surah 86:1-3 and the definition of "al-tariq." Some translations say that "al-tariq" is the morning star, but the morning star is really a planet, not a star. Since 86:3 defines "al-tariq" as a star of piercing brightness, doesn't this rule out the morning star as a proper translation? Also some people translate it to be the "night visitant," but that also doesn't make sense since the subject must be a star and a particular star or type of star. I have recently come across a translation that claims that "al-tariq" may be a star that pounds or makes a sound of punding, like a person who pounds on your door at night. This may lead us to define "al -tariq" as a pulsar, not just any regular star. Opinions wanted, esp in relation to the Quranic Arabic that could define what the term means...and please stay on topic.
-ichephren

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Quranic Divinity / Is the Quran for all time?
« on: April 09, 2006, 04:33:09 PM »
Peace all,
I have been thinking of this question for a while, but the recent discussions about the Quran have led me to really ask if the Quran is for all time. Perhaps it was only for people of that time. For at least 4yrs now we have been arguing about salat, chopping off hands, crucifixion, inheritance, those who our oaths bind us to, etc. but we have no conclusive decision. Maybe the reason why we cannot decide where hajj is to, what exactly the quranic year is composed of, or when we begin fasting is b/c we are not meant to know...it is not for us to know. Maybe the entire purpose of the Quran was to warn us through the message, which is the backbone of the Quran and would never be corrputed or lost as common knowledge. It seems that most of these issues were common knowledge to the people of the past and many of the laws in the Quran can only be instituted in a Quranic society, which hasn't existed since the time of the Prophet. Perhaps our current duty is to hold to the spirit of the Quran. Or maybe the Quran is as clear as water and we have all just missed it...

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Off-Topic / men and abortion
« on: March 09, 2006, 10:52:11 PM »
This question relates to a new case pending: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/wireStory?id=1702992.
The gist of the argument: If a pregnant woman can choose among abortion, adoption or raising a child, a man involved in an unintended pregnancy should have the choice of declining the financial responsibilities of fatherhood. The activists involved hope to spark discussion even if they lose. Now, at least in the U.S., women have the right to an abortion up to a certain point in the 9mth term. However, what about men? Can a man who decides that he does not want a baby really have a say? Can a man who does not want a baby opt out of any responsibility to the child as the mother would if she were to abort it? Can we relaly hold a man responsible for paying for a child for 18yrs even if it was the result of a one night stand?
I do not know what my personal opinion is, but I thought it would be interesting...

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Discuss Latest World News / New Internet Virus Spread This Friday!!
« on: February 02, 2006, 07:45:51 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/01/31/kamasutraworm/index.html

So, back up all your software, etc. I hear it also eats up your jpgs, so back those up too.

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