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Peace All.
What have we discovered -Science-so far about the brain?
What about the heart-Science-?
We have had conversations about the role of both brain and hearts in this forum.
What does Qoran say about both?

For info or to discuss further:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKJBvFr0WQ8
GOD bless you all .
Peace.

Peace all.

Here is the argument of traditional Islam  to uphold both Qoran and "Sunnah and Hadith":

"Both Qoran and "Sunnah and Hadith" have been transmitted to us by the same people and preserved for us equally orally and in writing. To reject one is also to reject the other"

Yet GOD parallel to their argument, has prophesised the right time "to throw the truth at falsehood"
The time that is going to put the final nail in the coffin of "Sunnah and Hadith" as GOD inspired to the prophet" has arrived now.

Besides , and I have no idea why they skip this, Qoran tells them ,in many verses clearly that the prophet does not do such a thing, he was forbidden  doing such a thing and GOD is taking the whole responsibility of arranging and preserving His revelation- every letter, word and verses ,the whole Qoran-
  Many who are studying Qoran now with honesty and sincerity will not fail at seeing through this false argument of theirs.
There are  so many verses one could give for this, so I am going to just choose one that is so powerful it renders any other source besides Qoran for salvation NIL.

This Qoran settles many issues for the Children of Israel; issues that they are still disputing.
إِنَّ هٰذَا القُرءانَ يَقُصُّ عَلىٰ بَنى إِسرٰءيلَ أَكثَرَ الَّذى هُم فيهِ يَختَلِفونَ
And most assuredly, it is a guide and mercy for the believers.
وَإِنَّهُ لَهُدًى وَرَحمَةٌ لِلمُؤمِنينَ
Your Lord is the One who judges among them in accordance with His rules. He is the Almighty, the Omniscient.
إِنَّ رَبَّكَ يَقضى بَينَهُم بِحُكمِهِ وَهُوَ العَزيزُ العَليمُ
Therefore, put your trust in God; you are following the manifest truth.(Qoran)
فَتَوَكَّل عَلَى اللَّهِ إِنَّكَ عَلَى الحَقِّ المُبينِ
You cannot make the dead, nor the deaf, hear the call, if they turn away.
إِنَّكَ لا تُسمِعُ المَوتىٰ وَلا تُسمِعُ الصُّمَّ الدُّعاءَ إِذا وَلَّوا مُدبِرينَ
Nor can you guide the blind out of their straying. The only ones who will hear you are those who believe in our revelations, and decide to be Muslimeen.
وَما أَنتَ بِهٰدِى العُمىِ عَن ضَلٰلَتِهِم إِن تُسمِعُ إِلّا مَن يُؤمِنُ بِـٔايٰتِنا فَهُم مُسلِمونَ
At the right time, we will produce for them a Dabba, declaring that the people are not certain about our revelations.
وَإِذا وَقَعَ القَولُ عَلَيهِم أَخرَجنا لَهُم دابَّةً مِنَ الأَرضِ تُكَلِّمُهُم أَنَّ النّاسَ كانوا بِـٔايٰتِنا لا يوقِنونَ
The day will come when we summon from every community some of those who did not believe in our Aayat, forcibly.
وَيَومَ نَحشُرُ مِن كُلِّ أُمَّةٍ فَوجًا مِمَّن يُكَذِّبُ بِـٔايٰتِنا فَهُم يوزَعونَ
When they arrive, He will say, "You have rejected My revelations, before acquiring knowledge about them. Is this not what you did?"
حَتّىٰ إِذا جاءو قالَ أَكَذَّبتُم بِـٔايٰتى وَلَم تُحيطوا بِها عِلمًا أَمّاذا كُنتُم تَعمَلونَ
They will incur the requital for their wickedness; they will say nothing.
وَوَقَعَ القَولُ عَلَيهِم بِما ظَلَموا فَهُم لا يَنطِقونَ

Is this not the best counter argument against theirs.
The prophet was clearly instructed to give you/read/ preach "this Qoran only" and he obeyed GOD by himself following the message he brought us -Qoran- ;

I am simply commanded to worship the Lord of this town - He has made it a safe sanctuary - and He possesses all things. I am commanded to be a  Muslim.
إِنَّما أُمِرتُ أَن أَعبُدَ رَبَّ هٰذِهِ البَلدَةِ الَّذى حَرَّمَها وَلَهُ كُلُّ شَىءٍ وَأُمِرتُ أَن أَكونَ مِنَ المُسلِمينَ
And to read/ recite/passon... the Qoran. Whoever is guided is guided for his own good, and if they go astray, then say, "I am simply a warner."
وَأَن أَتلُوَا۟ القُرءانَ فَمَنِ اهتَدىٰ فَإِنَّما يَهتَدى لِنَفسِهِ وَمَن ضَلَّ فَقُل إِنَّما أَنا۠ مِنَ المُنذِرينَ
And say, "Praise be to God; He will show you His Aayat, until you recognize them. Your Lord is never unaware of anything you do."
وَقُلِ الحَمدُ لِلَّهِ سَيُريكُم ءايٰتِهِ فَتَعرِفونَها وَما رَبُّكَ بِغٰفِلٍ عَمّا تَعمَلونَ

"Li Undhirakum Bihi Wa Man Balagh" To preach/pass on this Qoran to us and all the generations after Qoran. Are you asking us to witness that there is another authority besides GOD that gives revelation/message? We will not do that.
Since GOD throughout Qoran has never mentioned that He will be holding us responsible to follow "Sunnah and Hadith" but clearly is going to ask us about only His revelation-Qoran- ,then we pass on your "Sunnah and Hadith and will refuse to follow your brand of false Islam. One that has partners with GOD,
No thanks.
GOD bless you all.
Peace

I realise that I still have this option;
Divide myself into two and have an honest conversation with both "me" about our world stand and fate.
I will call my other self "good civilised reason" and here we go:

GL: What shall we call our conversation?
GCR: Let us call it "the civilised way1.

GL: Fine, you start the conversation or ask the first question.
GCR: What do you make of the current  middle east crisis?
GL: I thought this crisis is not a current one, has it not started in 1948 at least?
GCR: I mean do you condemn the recent Hamas attack on Israel first?
GL: Of course , my instinct condemns all killing of innocent people ,injustice towards them and oppression.
GCR: Do you agree that Israel has the right to defend itself?
GL: Israel does not recognise a state called Hamas, Is Israel taking action against its own citizens? Most Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza hold Israeli passports and are under occupation .
GCR: So what is the correct retaliation for Israel then? How can Hamas be punished ,hiding among the Palestinians?
GL: I see.. You mean Israel are contradicting themselves? They say they know where "the terrorists" are . They control Gaza and know every detail of their plans and tunnels and bases..-.Except that surprise attack that they somehow missed- So why don t they attack just Hamas positions ?
Oh silly me, Hamas use churches, hospitals and people s houses and shops as bases!

GCR:; That s right, and Israel have high tech equipment and can do precise and accurate hits.Remember Hamas are responsible for this.
GL: Yes, you are right. They hit  the exact epicentre of these places. I just hope for their sake that they don t clean up most of the innocent people and Hamas stays intact  to carry on the status quo of occupation.

Time for a cup of tea.
To be continued...
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

Just what is going on with our world?
we are witnessing, / taking part / helplessly watching the 20th and 21st century events, wars and greedy humans leading our world to disaster and suffering of the human race and doing next to nothing about the wicked goals and plans of the wicked injustice and oppressions happening in front of our eyes.

When is the penny going to drop that collectively we are the majority and those leading the disaster are the minority?
Money , fame and arrogance talk and are drowning our voices and calling louder.Their propaganda and tricks are no longer disguised from us, yet we are silent and accepting without resistance!.

Our leaders , under the guise of democracy , justice and our wellbeing are wanting our vote ,yet the power belongs to the owners of the big companies , banks ,institutions that work underneath the system . Our leaders are puppets to these systems and our nation  does not own even the natural resources to be able to deliver their false promises they make to us. . They have zero power to do anything/ We are not consulted on wars , economy or military matters that affect our lives and our living standards.

They call themselves the developed world. They make rules to suit the greedy and unjust selfish few. They call their wicked ways the "world order" when their own citizens are clearly living in misery and disorder of the highest kind, unable to afford food and basic necessities. All created by the rotten system of the few
They choose our friends and enemies, they create wars with lies, propaganda and greed motives . they set our agenda, and do not care an iota about our opinions or concerns.Yet we remain silent and obedient..
Is your nation similar to the ones I describe above?
What do you think should be done?
Or will the lonely, few just voices will be completely drowned?
When do you think any just system will appear in our world? How?
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

Peace everyone..
Here is a list of contradictions that one comes across in human s religions:
1-GOD is the all powerful. Religions think/interpret /instruct their followers that GOD needs followers of such religions to fight for him and enforce the religion on others even if they are peaceful people. Their enemies/ from  different 0ther religions- are also enemies of GOD even if they are claiming to believe in GOD and are peaceful people.

GOD does not contradict Himself by giving us the freedom of choice and then asks others to force a religion on us.

2- GOD Alone is the judge  and has not given authority to anyone to judge and punish anyone if they do not choose GOD s guidance. Religions judge and sanction their followers for not adhering to the rules of their religions

3-GOD has given all the children of Adam dignity and rights.they should not transgress or oppress others unjustly. Religions take the rights of others if they do not belong with them, take the rights of women and children even if they belong with them  and claim GOD has instructed it.

GOD does not tell us that we should compete in who  is the most righteous and we are all equal to start on the straight path ,then asks  religions to take rights away from other humans. GOD does not contradict ,nor do any injustice to anyone. Religions do that and claim it is from GOD..

4- GOD says to all of us do not divide into different religions and sects within each religion. Yet all religions are divided into sects and humans have formed different religions. Surely this is the biggest contradiction in all religions.

I am sure many of you are finding big contradictions in all the religions and the different sects of each religion.

The time has come to ponder and analyse what is the truth . Each need to look closely at their religion and see the irony and go in a deep search of the truth.

We need to start a revolution of cleaning all the false religions and sects to establish the dignity and role of the human being and its peaceful state to live on earth  in an amicable and peaceful existence with all the other humans=our brothers and sisters-.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

Peace All.
Does the heart just pump blood? What is its function? Has Science found anything new?:

https://www.heartmath.org/research/science-of-the-heart/heart-brain-communication/

Quote:
Neurocardiology: The Brain On the Heart

While the Laceys were conducting their research in psychophysiology, a small group of cardiologists joined forces with a group of neurophysiologists and neuroanatomists to explore areas of mutual interest. This represented the beginning of the new discipline now called neurocardiology. One of their early findings is that the heart has a complex neural network that is sufficiently extensive to be characterized as a brain on the heart (Figure 1.2).[11, 12] The heart-brain, as it is commonly called, or intrinsic cardiac nervous system, is an intricate network of complex ganglia, neurotransmitters, proteins and support cells, the same as those of the brain in the head. The heart-brain's neural circuitry enables it to act independently of the cranial brain to learn, remember, make decisions and even feel and sense. Descending activity from the brain in the head via the sympathetic and parasympathetic branches of the ANS is integrated into the heart's intrinsic nervous system along with signals arising from sensory neurons in the heart that detect pressure, heart rate, heart rhythm and hormones.

The anatomy and functions of the intrinsic cardiac nervous system and its connections with the brain have been explored extensively by neurocardiologists.[13, 14] In terms of heart-brain communication, it is generally well-known that the efferent (descending) pathways in the autonomic nervous system are involved in the regulation of the heart. However, it is less appreciated that the majority of fibers in the vagus nerves are afferent (ascending) in nature. Furthermore, more of these ascending neural pathways are related to the heart (and cardiovascular system) than to any other organ.[15] This means the heart sends more information to the brain than the brain sends to the heart. More recent research shows that the neural interactions between the heart and brain are more complex than previously thought. In addition, the intrinsic cardiac nervous system has both short-term and long-term memory functions and can operate independently of central neuronal command.

Interesting?
Let us see what comes from  this and future research?
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

Is Qoran a message to the world? Why? Let us see::
Many have already come to realise this and many will follow the message GOD willing.

1-The oneness of humanity is a powerful message in Qoran for all those who still want to live in their own tribal, national and ethnic cocoons without any respect and regard for the other. The Qoran does not want a person to cancel one's identity by birth but wants that identity to enhance inclusiveness rather than exclusiveness.

2-The Quran does not want people to deprive others of their dignity rights because of their color, gender or even religion. The Qoran does not give preference to one over the other. The Qoran does not say that only Muslims or who have faith in God deserve dignity or rights that are associated with dignity. It talks in a broader term and declares that no one has a right to deny humans their dignity that is a God given right.

3-The distribution of  human resources in a manner that would ensure the dignity and oneness of humanity is a major challenge for human beings. Wars have been fought for land and access to natural resources such as water, land ,oil or gas without realizing that none of these natural treasures were created by humans, yet human beings have always fought over their greed to control them.
The Qoran explains that the purpose to provide these resources is to ensure that human beings are not deprived of their basic needs for survival. It asks human beings not to use them to exploit fellow human beings.
Qoranic message certainly gives guidance in this matter and invites people to work together and use GOD s natural resources/provisions to ensure that no one sleeps hungry and no one is homeless.

4-The Qoran not only emphasizes justice but also recommends a step above justice, i.e., working for the good of others at the expense of one's interest.
So much inequality, indignity and denial of basic human rights takes place in our world simply because people tend to view justice for others as not binding. However, without adhering to justice, it is impossible to think of dignity, unity or universality of humanity.
The Qoran reminds that people who are likely to achieve prosperity are those who change their personalities and no longer push others aside to selfishly fulfill their own selfish needs. Realizing that the other person's need of basics is more demanding they voluntarily allow them to fulfill it first.

5- Peace is the goal
The ultimate goal of humans in this world is to secure a peaceful human society so that a peaceful family can protect the interests of a peaceful individual for achieving his or her true potential in deliberating on the purpose of this life and preparing for a life that is eternal in every sense of the term. The unity of humanity, the dignity, the justice and the universality of human resources pave the path for peace. They liberate humans from the mundane and profane and take them to the realm of sublime and sacred. They ensure that human beings reconcile between their greed and their need.

Qoran s message to the world . A goal to a peaceful life and unity for mankind..
5:16
With it, God guides those who seek His approval. He guides them to the paths of peace, leads them out of darkness into the light by His leave, and guides them in a straight path.
يَهدى بِهِ اللَّهُ مَنِ اتَّبَعَ رِضوٰنَهُ سُبُلَ السَّلٰمِ وَيُخرِجُهُم مِنَ الظُّلُمٰتِ إِلَى النّورِ بِإِذنِهِ وَيَهديهِم إِلىٰ صِرٰطٍ مُستَقيمٍ
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

Peace all.
I want to share this message as it is similar to my hope for our unity and wellbeing for the future:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4AlCk-NDz4

GOD bless you all.
Peace.

Peace All.
General information. It may not matter to some, it certainly does not matter to me but may be of interest to some.

CALENDER OF 2022:

The dates of secular holidays are based on the Gregorian calendar, which is commonly used for civil
dating purposes. Many religions and cultures follow various traditional calendar systems that are often
based on the phases of the moon with occasional adjustments for the solar cycle. Therefore, specific
Gregorian calendar dates for these observances will differ from year to year. In addition, calculation of
specific dates may vary by geographical location and according to different sects within a religion.
[NOTE: Observances highlighted in yellow indicate that the dates are tentative or not yet set by the
organizations who coordinate them.]

https://www.adl.org/media/16465/download
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

Peace All.
I hope it is the right time to check our religion. Reflecting on who we are and our purpose in this life.
Who do we really serve? Which authority? Why?

You may be surprised to find out that you have actually been serving your creator! But you are not aware of it. Whatever your religion is or you understand it to be!

the word " Submitter" is the English equivalent of the Arabic word "Muslim," and the word "Submission" is the English equivalent of the Arabic word "Islam," the underlying implication of these words is very profound, and far from the superficial meanings that are traditionally understood or used.

A Submitter/Muslim to GOD, can be defined as a person who submits to the will of God. The state of Submission, which can only take place between the person and God Almighty, is considered to be the only acceptable form of following God. (3:19, 85). Therefore, Submission is not a name of a religion; rather it describes  a state of mind of one's devotion to God alone. It is an attitude towards GOD your creator and all His creations.

Submission is GOD s religion to all mankind, whereby one recognizes God's absolute authority, and reaches a conviction that only God possesses all power; no other entity possesses any power that is independent of Him. The natural result of such a realization is to devote one's life and one's service absolutely to God alone. This is the First Commandment in all the scriptures, including the Old Testament, the New Testament and the Final Testament (The Quran).

Hear, O Israel!
The Lord our God is One God!
Therefore you shall adore
the Lord your God
with all your heart,
with all your soul,
with all your mind,
and with all your strength.
[Deuteronomy 6:4-5, Mark 12:29-30, Quran 3:18]

The commandment to follow  the religion of God alone is also found in the Hindu scriptures:

Let us meditate on God,
His glorious attributes,
who is the basis of everything in this universe as its Creator,
who is fit to be worshiped
as Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscient
and self existent conscious being,
who removes all ignorance
and impurities from the mind
and purifies and sharpens the intellect.
[Gayatri Mantra, Yajur Veda]

While every religion has been corrupted by innovations, traditions, and false, idolatrous doctrines, there may be "Submitters/ Muslims" within every religion. There may be Submitters who call themselves Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, or anything else. This is a concept some of the traditional Muslims will fiercely object to, even though it is in the Quran, and we experience it constantly.

They are not all the same; among the followers of the scripture, there are those who are righteous. They recite GOD's revelations through the night, and they fall prostrate. [3:113]

One of the reasons for this objection could be due to the implication of the terminology used. For example, the phrase "Christian  Monotheist" may seem to introduce a conflict, since the traditional definition of a Christian is one who believes in the divinity of Christ.
However, there are Christians who consider this idea to be blasphemous, and consequently they believe that Jesus was only a messenger of God and His Messiah.
Similarly, there are people in other religions who believe in God Almighty, believe that they are accountable for their works, and they are righteous.
A criterion of the true  religion of GOD  is that they will find nothing objectionable in the basic Torah, Gospel and Quranic teachings when they encounter them.

All these people are loyal to GOD Alone, and they collectively constitute the only religion acceptable to God.

Say, "We believe in GOD, and in what was sent down to us, and in what was sent down to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction among any of them. To Him alone we are submitters." [3:84]


Minimum Criteria
There are many more people out there who are Monotheists/Believers in heart, but we may not be aware of them. Furthermore, they themselves may not know where to fit in. How can one know if he or she might qualify to be called a Believer?
The minimum criteria  are given in the following verses.

Surely, those who believe,
those who are Jewish,
the Christians,
and the converts;
anyone who
(1) believes in GOD, and
(2) believes in the Last Day, and
(3) leads a righteous life,
will receive their recompense from their Lord.
They have nothing to fear,
nor will they grieve.
[Quran 2:62, 5:69]

The Believers follow the religion of Abraham (16:123). It was the religion of Moses and Jesus and Muhammad. It was the religion of all of the prophets and messengers. All of them were  Believers and Submitters to God, and God alone.

Submission to God alone is a personal relationship between you and God. You are answerable to Him directly and He alone will judge you. To be a Believer/ Submitter, you do not need to change your name or learn another language, or abandon your cultural identity or anything like that. There is no such thing as a 'Muslim or Submitter name' because your name does not affect your relationship with God.

Believers/Submitters are members of one family. They are allies of one another. They help and support each other as God and His angels help and support them. They are also united in one column when striving in the cause of God.

It is a known fact that all religions of the world—Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and others—have been corrupted one way or another through innovations, traditions, and the idolization of humans such as the prophets and the saints. Many people use religion to justify wars, terrorism, tyranny, and for economic and political gain.

The Believers follow God's revelations, and obey God's commandments as well as they can. They follow the truth from their Lord-Only His revelations-, not corrupted religions and man-made doctrines.

Submission/True Islam today is like a precious jewel that is buried under piles upon piles of man-made innovations.  Humans have been divided into sects and  into enemies by these man made religions

Say, "O followers of the scripture, let us come to a logical agreement between us and you: that we shall not serve except GOD; that we never set up any idols/authorities besides Him, nor set up any human beings as lords beside GOD." If they turn away, say, "Bear witness that we are submitters." [3:64]


No Compulsion in Religion
GOD has not asked  us to convert anyone to any religion, but only to  present the true Islam (Submission) to the world.
God specifically states in the Quran that: There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient. [2:256]

May the Lord guide us to true Islam.The state of mind and the true attitude towards GOD,religion and all the creations.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

Hello everyone-old and new members-.

Hope this thread will be used to reunite all members of free minds and to exchange news about each other or just say hello again to all of us.

Please get in touch and let us know how you are doing.
It is always nice to hear from all of you.
The family are taking me to Scarborough for a few days this week -To relax with my grandson Alex and spend each day digging on the beach ,he loves spending all day potting about and dipping in and out of the sea!-
Travelling to Africa was not possible for me  last year or this one, so this is a nice substitute.

Enjoy wherever you are everyone .

Looking forward to hear from past, present and future members .
You are all missed, especially those who do not post often.
Admin ,sorry if this thread is in the wrong category.- If it is the case change it-.
GOD bless you all
Peace.

Just for info to those ,like me, who  are  wondering how many sects of "Islam" exist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFcQHYq5E3c

One more Islam to add to the list.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

Imagine you are asked at the beginning of your life to live in a perfect system. From your experience as a human up to now what would that system be?
Most of us have lived under many or few or just one human system and so far can anyone say they are living in a perfect system? Which one?

What would you expect a perfect system to be like?
Here is my opinion  of describing the perfect system:
1- Fair and just.
2-Loving and caring for every individual-No wars,conflicts or disputes-
3-Transparent and clearly structured.
4- Roles and responsibilities of every individual taught, delegated and supported.
5-Collective cooperation and unity with all individuals.
6- Loyalty from everyone and confidence of everyone in the system
7- Complete trust of individuals with each other.  Complete agreement and trust of everyone on the "leader" of this system

Qoran describes GOD s kingdom as such . There is no "bad" only "good" in GOD s kingdom. There is no conflict or disputes in GOD s kingdom only peace.
There is no oppression or hunger or suffering in GOD s kingdom  only happiness....
What is the criteria of "entering GOD s kingdom"?
In my opinion it is :
1-Repent when you makes the wrong choice  And do not transgress the limits of the laws/ behaviour set by Qoran (  2:222 and 25:70)
2- Do what is good, Avoid what is evil and be righteous. (3:148, 5:64 and 3:76). Righteousness is defined in Qoran here-2:189-.
3-Advocate justice ,be just and avoid injustice. Be equitable( 49:9, 3:57 and 5:42).
4-Be steadfast and put your trust in GOD.( 3:146,  3:159).
5-Be charitable and helpful. Avoid being corrupt and aggressive and do not betray GOD or be unappreciative of GOD.(2:195, 7:55, 5:87, 28:77, 4:107)
6-Do not be arrogant boastful and proud-in the wrong sense of I am better than you-.( 16:23,  4:36,  57:23.)

GOD  will love you and will admit you to His kingdom, free and happy.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

For those interested in both the bible and Qoran, these are interesting analysis of some scholars on both:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIfz9zrAf4E.

You can search  for other similar analysis  by  "blogging theology " available on you tube.
GOD bless.
Peace.

Apologies to all members who asked me about the problem of not being able to get through to my link signature.
I had an issue with my data base provider . The files to many subscribers were wiped out due to a fault .
I had to find a different provider with back up and redo most of my original posts and pages.
It is now up and running and here is a link:
https://total-loyalty-to-god-alone.co.uk/

Thanks also for your comments on the previous articles. Likewise your comment on the new site will be welcomed.
GOD bless you.
Peace.