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Burning copies of the Quran on September 11 is a vile, ignorant, incendiary idea and will be a disservice to the families of the 60 or so innocent Muslims who were killed in the attacks nine years ago

This man has already been condemned by the government, military and nearly all other Christian churches. He is just a publicity seeker and a complete idiot. He not only does a disservice to the Muslims that died in the twin towers, he also does a disservice to all the 3,000 that died, his country and himself. Maybe he should read a copy before he burns it.


Just ask him if he can send you any evidence for the non-existance of God.
I heard that UPS works fast,

:rotfl: :bravo:

This is such a shame. Stephen Hawking has one of the most brilliant minds around, but he fails to answer, or even understand the most fundamental question:- If the universe was created from the, so called, "Big Bang" (was not big, nor was it a bang) that was caused by a small, excessively dense, ball of pure energy, then where did that ball of energy come from? One of the most basic rules of physics is that energy can not be created nor destroyed, it can only be changed. Therefore, that ball of energy (that contained all the energy now distributed throughout the universe) HAD to come from somewhere! Maybe God put it there!

General Issues / Questions / Re: Islamophobia and God Alone.
« on: August 19, 2010, 09:51:38 AM »
Oh so you will not be my neighbor very sad :elektro:

Maybe we could visit?  ;D

General Issues / Questions / Re: Islamophobia and God Alone.
« on: August 18, 2010, 02:23:20 PM »
And they got that from the christian as well :D
As (both of them) say "Jews and Infidels shall ends up in Hell!!!"

Oh by the way, just to let you know, I don't actually believe in hell.

General Issues / Questions / Re: Islamophobia and God Alone.
« on: August 18, 2010, 02:22:07 PM »
Yes Rev. John.. you're right...

And they (sunni, shiites etc..) got it from their 'older brother' as well the Christians..

You see... both (traditional) christians and traditional Islam (sunni, shiites) share these common traits:
- Salvation of the soul (heaven/jannah) is achieved through having the 'correct faith' and joining the 'true religion/sect'.
- Actively seeking converts, thinking that by obtaining convert for their 'true religion/sect' God will be pleased and grant them heaven/jannah.
- The 'correct faith' is achieved by acknowledgement / recognizing all God's prophet sent to this world (one is Jesus the other one is Mohammad)
  Although they haven't met any of them during their lifetime.
- Fail to recognized  any of God's true prophet will results in Narr / Hell / Gehena, as such both think that the Jews
  (and others infidels who doesn't recognize their prophet) will certainly ends up in Hell since they don't acknowledged Jesus or Mohammad.
- Converting to other sect / religion / belief besides the 'true religion/dogma' will got Hell as their punishment.
  As such they're very very afraid of 'learning and understanding other point of view / teachings' as there could be chances that they shall 'feel'
  that this 'other point of view' is more 'right and correct' and they will 'lose their secured slot in Heaven / Jannah'.
  And that's why they are always 'phobic' to alien culture and point of view and do nothing to understand it yet do many to attack it.

The way to ends this 'circle of karma' (as the eastern religions / cultures called it) is to start from ourselves.
Refrain from <put anything here>-phobic and people/race/culture stereotyping, and as time progress this 'good deed' shall bear its fruit.

And you my dear friend Rev.John are one of those rare personalities who could help on this 'collaborative works' for ending this
centuries long of prejudices, hatred, suspicion and stereotyping by putting forward a good example of TOLERANCE, LOVE and UNDERSTANDING.

Salam / Peace

Oh yes you are right! I would never even think of trying to deny that. All you have to do is look back in history to find numerous examples. Unfortunately no one seems to learn from it.

General Issues / Questions / Re: Islamophobia and God Alone.
« on: August 18, 2010, 09:24:52 AM »
It could also act as a 'reminder' / 'lesson' for us to not doing the same thing to other people or culture..
Basically people fear the 'unknown' or those who are 'alien' to them..
There are Islamophobic, Jewishphobic, Chinesephobic, Asianphobic, Westernphobic etc..

"We reap what we sew"

"Judge not, that ye be not judged"
"For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you measure , it shall be measured to you again."
"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

Salam / Peace

You are quite right. But please don't forget that most Sunni and Shea are Christianphobic

Introduce Yourself / Re: Former unsure christian to islam
« on: August 17, 2010, 10:24:18 AM »
dear John, this cannot be called a "very little" difference.
But I was talking about, which you mentioned without detail
Do the God alone Christians consider Muhammad as Last Messenger of Allah?
Muslims Do consider Issa as Messenger of Allah!

Any way I know how hard it is to preach God-alone in Christian Countries, Who consider Jesus as Son of God,
so Hail to you :handshake:

Not necessarily the last messenger, but most do consider him to be a messenger/prophet of God. As for my term "little difference". I do think they are not important differences as they are mainly just "procedural" differences and I was meaning that there was very little difference between the actual beliefs.

Introduce Yourself / Re: Greetings! :D
« on: August 16, 2010, 10:11:38 AM »

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