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Hey you ****** why did u delete my post? Do u suppress freedom of expression?

So you complain about traditionalists being such and such but you are the same as them. You denigrate submitters, you call yourselves muslims, you are ashamed to be called yourselves submitters. Yet, you ******* know well that submitter means muslim. You creators of confusion, discriminative hypocrites. Follow quran alone but not hadith and sunna but also follow the opinions of celebrities politicians etc
You stupid *****, haven't u read my post well? I said i had the right to have an opinion too! Cant you read?

Peace, the Reformist Translation is the best. It also takes into consideration code 19 which the Message doesn't do

I give up

Hey, quit telling me what i should do, what i should read. I have the right to have an opinion too and to express it too, even if you might not agree to it. If u dont like my opinion then, simply move along (in your own terms)

Divergence in opinions will never lead to anything coherent. How can there be unity if no one agrees with each other?

Well, read the posts. If that's not condoning,what is it then?   
'i dont think it's got something to do with adultery'-mahmud h
Others suggested it could be better to watch porn than to commit the act, etc...

I see it well written on panels here, where they are raging against quraniyoun:
The prophet said 'RESORT TO FASTING IF YOU CANT CONTROL YOUR LUSTS'
Quraniyoun say 'WATCH PORN IF YOU CANT CONTROL YOUR LUSTS'

24:33 those who cannot afford to get married shall maintain morality...

You guys are jokers. How can u condone porn? I agree that porn is around every corner and many of us fall prey to it, but to condone it? Porn is something that degrades women, and there are many implications in it.
How can u agree that adultery is a sin but yet also agree that people committing it are doing good for people who cant satisfy their libido?
Finally there aint many differences between you free minds/ progressive muslims and the hadithists. Maybe that's why you insist on calling yrselves muslims. As least submitters dont condone animal sex on their site.
What u express on this site can have big implications. Sunnis who militate against quran alone actually check yr posts. And if they read this posts, they will go around and shout to everybody that quraniyoun actually SUPPORT PORN! Many idol worshippers (trinitarians, traditionalists,feminists,etc) also condemn porn but you, the so called pure monotheists free minds agree to it. What a shame!

Peace, welcome to quran alone ideology, but i would advise you not to rely on this forum, it will really confuse you like it confuses me. It's better to start with more coherent sites like http://www.submission.org then to proceed with http://www.19.org which offers a more intellectual approach. This forum is quite contradictory with the articles that the site houses. You will feel undoubtedly lost.

Peace, according to quran, we are submitters(in english) but people here feel ashamed to be called submitters for fear of being associating to the ICS, Tucson. But somehow they are not ashamed of calling themselves 'muslims' despite of the confusion that this surely generates, confusion that will put them in the same basket as those who condemn anti-hadith ideology, as those who condone terrorism, prophet-worship, etc
It makes no sense that animals will be slaughtered in heaven, the description of heaven is purely symbolic, it is a dimension that our minds cannot understand, therefore God uses analogy to make us understand. I have never tasted caviar before, so unless you describe it to me in comparison with things i already tasted, i would not know.
Why would i seek to know more on muhammad? Why him only?