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#1
Quote from: islamkingdom2 on December 02, 2017, 04:54:17 PM
Their usage is forbidden, as stated by the Prophet ﷺ: ?Do not drink from gold and silver containers and do not eat from plates made from them. Verily they are for them (the unbelievers) on earth and for you (the believers) in the hereafter.? [ agreed upon]

And he ﷺ said: ?He who drinks from a silver container, indeed (he) causes hell-fire to boil in his belly.? [ agreed upon]

Did he tell you that personally?
#2
Quote from: parvez mushtaq on January 09, 2018, 12:20:55 PM
How you take these forms of  prayers



this festival is round the corner here .

That's how dangerous false doctrines can be.
#3
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on January 09, 2018, 08:44:11 AM
Quran 112:3 "Never did He beget, nor was He begotten,"

Quran 112:4 "None is equal to Him."


Quran 43:15 They assigned a share to Him from His own servants! The human being is clearly denying.


Pantheism, Trinity,Polytheism are wrong.

Where does the Bible teach a Trinity?
#4
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on January 09, 2018, 08:44:11 AM
Quran 112:3 "Never did He beget, nor was He begotten,"

Quran 112:4 "None is equal to Him."


Quran 43:15 They assigned a share to Him from His own servants! The human being is clearly denying.


Pantheism, Trinity,Polytheism are wrong.

Where does the Bible teach a Trinity?
#5
What made you decide to leave sectarian Islam?

My story in short: Once a day i was praying in a mosque. Before the prayer, i was talking with someone. While talking, i asked him something like "do you know this hadith". He responded, or i heard him saying, "sorry, no i dont follow ahadith".
In my mind i was like, how can he follow Islam without following the ahadith. I kept silence, and we both went our own way. So when i was back at home, i started searching for "no-hadith" Islam, on the internet.
I saw Rashad Khalifa, and he had some really good points, like: following God alone, Quran alone etc. So that's when i started thinking about leaving sectarian Islam. I was a salafi, the most orthodox and extreme form of sectarian Islam.

After a while, i started noticing that also Rashad Khalifa didn't speak 100% the truth. So i started listening more to Edip Yuksel. Edip said that prayer was 3 times a day etc., and i also was thinking that it was 3 times a day, and not 5 times, like Rashad said etc.

But then as well Edip did say some things, that i don't agree on. And that's when i started searching on my own to the truth. I stopped following people, and so called teachers etc.

I started believing in Quranic Islam. And while reading the Quran more and more, i started reading about the Bible. So once, on a day, God showed me a person, who made me think, to start reading the Bible, and the Quran. So i started reading them both. While reading, i started seeing the big picture. And i now believe in both of them. I am still learning Hebrew, Greek and Arabic.

Everything made sense, the Catholics, the Sunnis, the Pharisees, etc.

I don't follow any groups anymore. And i don't follow a teacher. The Books are my teacher, and God alone can guide me. So yeah, i think that i am now on the right track. I still have to learn a lot, but at least God saved me from those sectarian groups, and teached me that it is important to learn on your own and keep praying for the truth.
#6
Quote from: amin on January 08, 2018, 09:22:55 PM
Yes worshiping God, how? why? were the questions discussed here a lot.
5 or 3 or 1 or none it depends on each and every individual, overall we are to be reminded of Him.  I dont think so its good to spend all day and night worshiping, the purpose of prayers gets lost, our prayers are to balance our mind and body from excess?. Quran do not talk about the exact ritual/way to pray.

Mosques Temples and other places of worship were just created for our conveniences, to unite people and focus on the common goodness, people donate their excess in the name of God to help others. I find the traditional way of praying great minus preaching by many halfbaked Imams taking salat  to his own goodness/survival.

Whatever new improved way we find, idolizing comes in only when we are ego about our ways and methods saying mine is superior, mine is the only correct, mine is the true god, mine is more powerfull etc...?


Mosques Temples and other places of worship were just created for our conveniences, to unite people and focus on the common goodness, people donate their excess in the name of God to help others.

Exactly..

Those people are still searching for how to pray. And i respect that. They at least don't follow a sect and don't use their methods.

I pray three times a day, salaat al fadjr, wusta and isha. I can find in the Zabur for example, that King David, also prayed 3 times a day.

Anyways, i hope God will guide you and accept your prayers.
#7
Quote from: huruf on October 27, 2016, 06:41:22 AM
The history of arheology is also de history of rrauds, and the zionnist state itself is the biggest fraud ever.

An English translation of the Quran 5:21 "O my people, enter the holy land as God Has decreed for you, and do not turn your backs, or you will become losers."


And some bonus verses from the Scriptures:

An English translation of the Quran 4:163 We have inspired you as We had inspired Noah and the prophets after him. And We had inspired Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and Jesus, and Job, and Jonah, and Aaron, and Solomon; and We gave David the Psalms.

So lets go and read the Psalms and the Scriptures :D, and lets share some verses about Zion :D:

An English translation of Second Samuel 4:7 Nevertheless David took the stronghold of Zion; the same is the city of David.

An English translation of First Kings 8:1 Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the princes of the fathers?houses of the children of Israel, unto king Solomon in Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of the LORD out of the city of David, which is Zion.

So we can see that the city of David was called Zion. Since there is way more in the Scriptures about Zion, i advice you to study it, and start watching your mouth when you are against Zion.
#8
Quote from: Jafar on January 08, 2018, 08:40:20 AM
Every time, yet sometimes I don't like the answer...

Everyone... well actually everything have 'personal' relationship to God..
Regardless of their species, race, social identity and/or belief..

Thus having 'relationship' with God doesn't make you (or anyone else) special or 'superior' compared to others..

God always answered your prayer but perhaps you don't like the answer as thus you perceive it as your prayer was not answered. He even know the 'content' of your prayer even before you said it...

Thus actually the best prayer is: "Let Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven"...

He answered my prayer, and i think that prayer that He answered was the biggest prayer someone can ask for. I was digging my own grave, while not even knowing it, and He made me see, and guided me, He gave me life. But..

My question is not about answering prayers. My question is about communication. Like i talk to Him, and He talks to me.
#9
Quote from: amin on January 08, 2018, 10:03:48 AM
I feel the current way of prayers is also one of the best way, it helps clean our body at regular intervals, balance our daily activities to moderation and if one understands the verses recited it helps  focus on goodness individually and as a group.   If the so called learned ones not push on their own doubtfull hadeeth stories on to us, it will be really great and good to pray in the traditional way.

We should care about what kind of sources we follow. The topic is worshipping God. We don't want to commit idolatry, by following fabricated doctrines, and fueling the masses.
#10
Quote from: Jafar on January 08, 2018, 08:44:39 AM
Good for you..
There are zillions ways to pray.. do it as comfortable to you..

Yet for the sake of 'curiosity' perhaps you should then ask yourselves:
Why then some people, even think that there is only ONE correct way to pray.

I also was raised in an environment where they should pray according to just 1 method. And they would call you insane if you prayed to God on your own spiritual and physical way.

By reading the Tauwrat, the Zabur, the Injeel and the Quran, i saw the bigger picture. One of those things was prayer, i found out that there wasn't really just one physical and spiritual way of praying, until Jesus in the Injeel showed those who don't know how to pray how to pray and how they should pray.

The Quran teached me that it's important to pray, because when praying, the soul connects with God. And our hearts will feel peace when we pray.

What i learned is, that praying is more about communicating to God and worshipping Him. You should ask God how to pray since it's God who you are worshipping and not an idol. So it can be dangerous, if you just follow a sect, and you don't care about how you pray and why you pray etc.

It's a personal journey, i pray according to this way, other people can pray slightly different or different. In the end, it's all about your intentions, your heart, and soul. My quest ended like that, and i think my method now is complete. I now can focus on the spiritual aspect instead of the method.