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Schizophrenic or liar...

We are merely the product of our environment. Free will is a pure illusion.

The problem with both Y-DNA and mtDNA tests is that they do not take into consideration of say your great great great grandmother on your father's side or great great great grandfather on your mother's side so these DNA lineages don't really say much in the end.

It doesnt, that's true. But right here we're talking about population profiles, not individual ones. In this case, uniparental lines can give you a good picture of the overall ancestry of the population. Arabian populations that were not affected by the recent islamic slave trade have very few sub-saharan lines among them. Highland Yemenis for instance have almost none, whereas nearby Hadramis unsurprisingly have loads of them.

Or if you want to close the case, just look at the autosomal (complete ancestral) profile. It would yield the same results. These idiots are claiming that Arabians are black, what a load of bullcrap seriously. Even east african hamites can hardly be considered black lol, let alone ancetral Arabians.

Wow, how silly can humans get ?!?! You have access to all the information youw ant yet you 're still stucked in mythology. Pseudo-science you say hahahahahahahahahaahha, look who's talking bro. Ishmaelites, Nephilim, you serious

This is not about thinking differently, this is about hard facts. Go learn population genetics and come back to me, I promise it will be helpful, nothing to do with the government lol. You can even have DNA tests yourself and many people can use your raw data to help you understand. I'll give you a good way to begin : start reading about uniparental lineages Y-DNA and mtDNA, Don't talk, just do it, didn' t mean to be rude, but this is seriously hilarious bro. What I can tell you for a fact is that the arabian peninsula was never settled by people of recent sub-saharan ancestry aka Blacks. The last contribution was from the islamic/arab slave trade, this is why you see many coastal Yemenis that are heavily negroid but you never see them in the highlands amon the real Yemenis. North Africans also were not black, this is proven by so many ways. Ancient Egyptians were not black, this was also confirmed from genrtic testing of ancient remains. This has nothing to do with euro-centrism bro, I'm myself north african and we're not white lol. We're an ancient mix, but there is genetic continuity in the Maghreb since the upper paleolithic with the Iberomaurusians from whom some remains were also tested. We're partly black though, around 15%...

There are studies that contradict each other all the time when DNA tests is done on Jews mainly because Jews are diverse people like anyone else and Judaism being a religion also. To discard the Khazar study though would be ridiculous since it is not the only study that points out that (however it should not be used to determine an entire population's ancestry no study should), infact some of these studies exist in this link, notice the various different results: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews

I'd think that Jews are like any people which is diverse just like Palestinians (Palestine has been home for dozens of peoples from the Israelites to the Arabs which has created a diversity through interracial marriages), so some studies on Ashkenazi would point out to Middle Eastern ancestry while others to European. Judaism is a religion that has existed for thousands of years with people coming and leaving the religion (an example being the Khazar empire that adopted Judaism at a certain time point). If I recall it right the Khazar study was also done on Jews who were already from the region (that is countries like Georgia and Armenia) which makes sense. Doing the study on for example French Jews or German Jews would maybe not give the same results but at the same time it would not disregard the idea of these Jews having European ancestry either. Many DNA studies (autosomal) on Jews are carried out by comparing their DNA to those of the local population in the Levant (Syrians, Jordanians, Lebanese, Palestinians and Samitarians) when determining ancestry. 

Then at the end who cares what ancestry many Jews have seriously? Even if the majority of them 'descended' from the Israelites (which they most likely do not) it is not really relevant and does not make a difference. I suppose the Khazar theory is only considered relevant for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict even though it is not 'ancestors' that should be deciding who is right but instead things such as land ownership. We know that Arab land ownership was a lot higher than Jewish land ownership in every city prior to the state of Israel.

There is no such thing as ''many of them descend from israelites'', the thing is they're all partially israelite/levantin genetically. And no the difference between a Jew from France and a Jew from Germany is very small, Ashkenazim expanded recently in history throughout Europe, they all come from a small original founder community and are very inbred. Jews are like that, they like to keep it between themselves. And I said as well that Ashkenazim (and sephardim as well) are about half-euro.

I completely agree with your last paragraph though. It is retarded to think your ancestors are what make this or this land yours.

Shut up if you don't know anything, that's the only thing you need to do really, I had a good laugh reading both of you Progod and Quincy hhahahaahhaahah

Big LOLZ, dont talk about a subject you're ignorant about. J2-M172 is 30,000 years old and has many many sub-clades spread all over the place from Bangladesh to the Atlantic. J1-P58 is found at a rate of 20% among Ashkenazim and it is the typical neo-semite marker. Don't even get me started on E-M123 and all the rest. Ashkenazim are only half european and it's from the maternal side mostly. They cluster close to southern Italians.

Shemite, japhetite and hamite, these are all non-sense.

People, I advise you not to talk about what you do not have any knowledge of. I gave you some genetic insight about the nature of ashkenazi jews, yet you keep rehashing stupid debunked non-sense, such as the Khazarians and Turks or whatever. When DNA comes into play, it is no longer a matter of debate...

Yeah right, the truth...

I see while reading through various posts in this forum that this is still the claim advanced by most members. Let me inform you that you are late in the matter, this theory has long been discredited by genetic evidence. Ashkenazi Jews are not descended from Khazarian Jews, at least not in any significant way. The contribution from Khazarians is minimal. I would urge everyone to stop propagating such pseudo-scientific non-sense.

Instead, genetic data clearly shows that Ashkenazi Jews are a mixure between middle-eastern men (mostly old Jews but not only them) and european women. I can go on and prove this to you but I doubt anyone here is knowledgeable enough about population genetics to understand. Therefore, let me keep it simple : ashkenazi jewish Y-DNA(ie paternal) lines derive mostly from the Levant, this is explicitely proven by many lines, naming only a few is enough to clear the case beyond the shadow of a doubt. E-Z17699, E-Y14891, J-Y3088,  R-Y18855 are some of the undeniable ones. Most of these lines are totally inexistant outside of middle-eastern populations.

On an autosomal level, thus taking into account the overall ancestry rather than uniparental lines only, the same euro-mideastern profile emerges, causing Ashkenazim to cluster close to South Italians on a global plot.