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#1
Quote from: good logic on December 14, 2022, 09:32:34 AM
Peace   nimnimak_11.
"yālaytanī" is made up of three word: Ya,, lyta  and ni.. I suppose one one can translate the three words like this:
Oh, if only, and I(ME)
So instead of I wish, you could  translate as: Oh  if only I was. i.e You want a different scenario for yourself than the one you have(you are in).
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Thanks good logic.

God bless you too!
#2
Peace all

I don't know Arabic well enough to make a comfortable decision regarding something I am trying to interpret. Perhaps you can help.

Then drove her the pains of childbirth to (the) trunk (of) the date-palm. She said, "O! I wish I (had) died before this and I was (in) oblivion, forgotten."

To my knowledge, in Arabic wish = shay. Yet, in 19:23 this word is not used.

I went onto corpus to get the word for word. What does the following really mean:

yālaytanī

Here is a direct link to the word:
https://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=19&verse=23#(19:23:7)

Peace,
Nyma
#3
Quotesee context; same speakers, time, to same group (Musa's people)

I still think it's in reference to more than one hypothetical having attained reality. It's more subtle in the Quran than in the Bible.

For example:

When the disciples saw this, they were indignant and asked, "Why this waste? This perfume could have been sold at a high price, and the money given to the poor." (Matthew 26:8-9)

Some of those present, however, expressed their indignation to one another: "Why this waste of perfume? It could have been sold for over three hundred denarii and the money given to the poor." And they scolded her. (Mark 14:4-5)

But one of His disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was going to betray Him, asked, "Why wasn't this perfume sold for three hundred denarii and the money given to the poor?" (John 12:4-5)
#4
Quote from: Nom de plume on December 12, 2022, 09:17:17 PM
peace,

walad is not son, applies either gender offspring or designated heir (adopted)

4:11  instructed you (pl.)  the God in  awlādikum/offspring yours (male/female)

Waw-Lam-Dal = to beget, give birth

below mentions attributing sons and daughters

6:100 and attribute they of to him banina/sons wabanatin/and daughters
6:101 ... how being to him walad and not it be to him companion his?

to interpret walad as son also infers possibility of daughters
53:19 have so seen you l-lata/the idol (goddess) wal-uza

no capitalization in Arabic use context

4:1 O you the people heeds ye of lord yours the one creation you (pl.) from nafs single (f) and creation from it (f)  spouse its (f) and disperse from them dual menfolk of many and womenfolk ...

Thank you for the reply. It benefitted me.
#5
General Issues / Questions / Re: Few Intriguing questions
December 12, 2022, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: Fusion on December 12, 2022, 12:06:31 PM
Very interesting and again thank you for sharing your thoughts.
From your explanation it does appear to me, a God with limits and boundaries? or did I understand wrong? I mean does god have a physical aspect that HE can not go beyond time and space?

Not with limits and boundaries. The Infinite/Omnipresent has no limits and boundaries. By definition, that which is Infinite is the only entity that is not limited in any way shape or form.

QuotePerhaps God is far above what human beings may devise about Him in their own minds...because human mind ask questions like "Can God create another God if he is able over all things"

There is no beyond that-which-there-is-no-beyond (or Infinity) for God/Infinity to create another God/Infinite. The Infinite encompasses all that is finite (that which has a beginning and an end), and all that is semi-infinite (that which has a beginning but no end). Infinity is such that there can be an endless number of finites and semi-infinites.

There is a difference between can/possibility, and will/reality. What could have been or what could be, are all matters of hypothetical possibilities. They are things that God could will/choose but has not yet done so (or did not do so). What was willed is what attained reality.

God is the all-encompassing will. The Almighty.

81:29 And you cannot will anything except if it is also willed by God, Lord of the worlds.

2:253 If God had willed...God does what He intends.

Maybe the following will benefit you, but I don't know:
godisallthatmatters.wordpress.com/2020/08/12/all-that-exists/
#6
Thanks for the reply Emre

My focus was more on whether God created us from His soul or not.

Something you said I wanted to comment on:

QuoteAs a result of this false belief, in order to evolve spiritually, people praise suffering and pain.

I acknowledge that suffering for the sake of suffering is madness/irrational/evil (something Satan would encourage).

Two are unfair towards God. One wants to be punished. The other should be punished but doesn't want to be punished. Who is punished? What does pleasure in pain look like? The idea of someone willing to suffer in order to make amends (or maybe even to progress from a lesser state to a greater state), is praiseworthy/beautiful/support-worthy/appreciateable.

Repentance: Three are unfair towards God. The first wants to be punished. The second should be punished but doesn't want to be punished. The third is being punished/deprived missing out but he is happy to continue as is.
#7
General Issues / Questions / Re: Few Intriguing questions
December 12, 2022, 06:30:21 AM
To qualify as All-Knowing, one has to know all that is knowable (if there is an unseen that is knowable, then God would know it). If something is not knowable, then by definition it is not something that anyone would know. For example, God cannot be expected to know what a gfshks is because gdshks is not a knowable thing. It is just a made up word/label.

God knows what we reveal and what we hide. I believe this amounts to God knows what we would choose in what circumstance and organises everything so that the best outcome happens. Whether God knows what He would choose or not, is not something that is clear beyond that He knows that that which He chooses will be perfect (because His desire/will is perfect). Some relevant verses to consider:

81:29 And you cannot will anything except if it is also willed by God, Lord of the worlds.

7:156 "And decree for us good in this world, and in the Hereafter; we have been guided towards You." He said: "My punishment, I afflict with it whom I chose, and My mercy encompasses all things/wills. I will thus decree it for those who are aware and contribute towards purification, and those who believe in Our revelations."

Imagine One taking into account all things/wills every second and then coordinating such that Existence is Perfectly Existing such that everything is progressing towards what it ought to.

51:47 And the heaven We constructed with resources, and We are expanding it.

That One being knows what all other beings reveal and hide and coordinates/wills accordingly. I think you should also have a look at the following Biblical verse: Hebrews 4:3-5.

To my understanding, God is not beyond time and space. There is no beyond time and space. God is the Omnipresent, so God encompasses all time and space that flows, and God is the flow-er.
#8
Peace all

O mankind! Be aware/mindful of your Lord the One Who created you from a soul single and created from it its mate and dispersed from both of them men many and women. And fear Allah (through) Whom you ask [with it] and the wombs. Indeed, Allah is over you Ever-Watchful. (Quran 4:1)

I think many (if not all) of you will be quick to say God is without a zawj so that the soul in 4:1 is not God's. But I think the perfect and the imperfect are a pair. I think Quran explicitly states that God has no partners or companions or sons/walad. But it does not state that God does not have a zawj or a son/ibn. I also don't get how God could create a soul independently of HIs soul. From a nafs vahid suggests God to me.

What do you think?

Also for the Arabic speakers amongst you, does Arabic distinguish between lower case letters and upper case letters? If no, then who decides what to capitalise? For example, if the he is in reference to other than God, it is not capitalised. But if it is in reference to God, it is capitalised "He". There is also the notion of We. I want to know why the word soul in 4:1 is not capitalised.

Peace
#9
Peace

Thank you for this. I found it interesting.
#10
Quotedid you see how I partially quoted you and did it contradict what you said?

Ok, so what about the following:

Quote2:58 and when said we "ud'khulū (enters ye) this the town ..."

7:161 and when stated to them "us'kunū (settles ye) this the town ..."

"Enter" and "settle" are two different words. Either They (the Speakers) repeated the same thing twice with a change (enter and settle), or, They were talking to 2 different groups, or, the Speakers in 2:58 are not the same as the Speakers in 7:161. What's your understanding?