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#1
I supposed it doesnt matter - to me, who it was, all prophets where wise in there own way.

Thanks.
#2
Quote from: jkhan on August 19, 2024, 08:26:58 AM33:37 "..... .....So, when concluded/ended in redundancy (zaid) from her desirousness (wathar), We married her to you (singular) ........ ...."

There is no name of Mr. Zaid in the Quran... it's all the invention of hadith..

further 'Fee Aswaj AdiiyaiHim' means ' concerning of their demand/request of life partners/mates

Now read the sentence and see it makes sense to you or not...

Prophet need her once he ended it, but told something against what was in his mind fearing people since he is a Prophet... Can't prophet demand what he wants? Allah clarifies..

Agreed, which prophet is this relating to please?

Please point me to where you got the following from :-
further 'Fee Aswaj AdiiyaiHim' means ' concerning of their demand/request of life partners/mates


Thanks.
#3
Salaam,

This is a remarkable lesson for people of fulfilling the term after seperation so there are no suspicions and discomforts after words if children are born premature or otherwise - i think, but Allah knows best.
The ayahs 33.33-37 are worth reading together.

...And when you said to the one bestowed favor Allah on him and you bestowed favor on him "keep to yourself your wife and fear Allah" But you concealed within yourself what Allah (was to) disclose and you fear the people while Allah has more right that you fear him, so when ended extension from her necessary (formalities) 

[End of period for divorce]

we married her to you so that not there be on the believers any discomfort concerning their wives,  their adopted sons

[The child in the belly of the woman, if its the previous father or unsure of will be called adopted according to lanes.]

when have ended from them necessary (formalities) and is command of Allah accomplished.


But Allah knows best.
#4
Salaam,

Lets analyse:

33.37

https://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=33&verse=37

No where does it state Zaidun is an adopted son named Zaid - as depicted in literature, does it say that any where in the quran.

Can/ Does Zaydun mean something else?

Addition/ extension - according to the meaning given in dictioneries.






#5
Salaam everyone,
Is there anyone who can point out the story of King David in the quran please, someone once mentioned it was in the quran.



His Story:

King david and bathsheba story
According to the biblical account, King David, ruler of Israel, committed adultery with Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah the Hittite, one of his mighty men. The story unfolds as follows:

David, while walking on his rooftop, spotted Bathsheba bathing and became obsessed with her beauty.
He sent for her and had an affair with her, resulting in her pregnancy.
To conceal his sin, David summoned Uriah from the battlefield and instructed him to sleep with his wife, hoping to pass off the child as Uriah's.
However, Uriah refused, as he was a loyal soldier and would not betray his comrades by sleeping with his wife while his comrades were still at war.
David then ordered Uriah's death in battle, and Bathsheba became a widow.
Consequences and Repentance

The child born to David and Bathsheba died as a punishment from God.
The prophet Nathan confronted David about his sin, using a parable to highlight the gravity of his actions.
David acknowledged his wrongdoing and repented, and Bathsheba later gave birth to Solomon, who would become the next king of Israel.

Thanks.
#6
General Issues / Questions / Re: Verse 9:30
March 02, 2024, 08:19:25 AM
Quote from: Leyla on December 24, 2005, 10:22:30 AMPeace Ahmed

Thank you very much for your insights.
I will consider them.

However, I would kie to ask for carefulness when eaueting modern standard Arabic with qur'?nic Arabic. Modern standard Arabic is a language that was definitely shaped through Sunni mistranslations.
Just look at the translations for zak?h and sal?h.
The same would apply for terms like yah?d and naSara, I opine. These terms are easily deducable from pure Arabic roots and do not need to be seen as terms coming from the outside (like a loanword yah?d would be).
Furthermore the variant alladh?na hud? is in no way consistent with that loanword theory, I would say. We need an Arabic root meaning for that word.

I have to say, though, that contrary to me, mquran in the other thread thinks it comes from HWD, meaning approaching, not related to guidance. An interesting option as well to think about.

I know that helpers is anSar. That?s why I didn?t translate it as helpers but those who helped. Nevertheless, the Arabic root is totally identical. Coming from that root, how would you directly translate the term, I wonder? Just deducing it from the root, not by the supposed meaning of "Christians"? I am interested in your opinion here.

The notion of the prophet Uzair comes purely from teh ahadith. Quranic scholars have always pointed out to it and have supposed other meanings to the word. E.g. Parwez equated it with the Egyptian God Osiris.
Again, I would rather vote for deriving it from pure Arabic because All?h Himself says that He has revealed the qur'?n in pure consistent Arabic. We should never forget this last fact.

Hmm, thanks for the interpretation of masih. Well, at least we both know that it definitely comes from a root that means too touch. I have read too many scholarly opinions that claimed that he is the touched one, not the one who touches. But of course, I will always be happy about a conquered wrong understanding. Let?s research that more!

salaam,

Leyla

Salaam,

Amazing - someone is looking outside the box, roots, Lanes and quranic dictioneries are good, plus a little of ones own intelect.

My Hats off to you.

Thanks...

#7
Peace Br.

Totally agree with you, Disbelivers can be any , even from people of the book and muslims in general and the type of people in the ayah called Yahud are not necessarily jews in particular, the people who help such are Nasara..(their helper) and again not necessarily christians but can be any.

Unfortunate thing is that in the islamic world people are taught that Yahud are just the jews and Nasara are just the christians.

Making half of the world enamies of the other.

Hard to imagine - how human beings are herded like sheep.

Thanks.
#8
Peace Br.

Of course as you said these ayahs refer to all different types of people.

My argument is

5.51
O you who have believed, do not take the Yahud/Jews and the Nasara/Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allāh guides not the wrongdoing people.

According Lanes Dictionery;

Nasara - who aids and assists another.
Yahud - one who returns from evil to good or good to evil.

In this case they are returning from good to evil according to the defnition of good of the quran.

Also there isn't anyone who can label a people as untrustworthy or bad because of the colour of their skin or religion or height , surely.
Different people will behave differently in many ways.

What make people think Yahud is Jews?

#9
Hi,
Some times you have a feeling of what something is or isn't.

I checked it and Doubt that Yahud R jews.

Remenbering Bani Israel are the decendants of the jews.

Anyone come accross such a topic, that has been discussed before?
#10
Hi,

Is it true that the Quran says to not take the Jews and Christians for friends?

Is this referring to Jews and christians or not?