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#1
Quote from: Lost on July 17, 2019, 01:05:26 PM
Wow, how silly can humans get ?!?! You have access to all the information youw ant yet you 're still stucked in mythology. Pseudo-science you say hahahahahahahahahaahha, look who's talking bro. Ishmaelites, Nephilim, you serious ???

This is not about thinking differently, this is about hard facts. Go learn population genetics and come back to me, I promise it will be helpful, nothing to do with the government lol. You can even have DNA tests yourself and many people can use your raw data to help you understand. I'll give you a good way to begin : start reading about uniparental lineages Y-DNA and mtDNA

The problem with both Y-DNA and mtDNA tests is that they do not take into consideration of say your great great great grandmother on your father's side or great great great grandfather on your mother's side so these DNA lineages don't really say much in the end.
#2
All of them descending from the Israelites is literally impossible. It is common sense. Are you saying that nobody in history has ever converted to this religion? If yes then no not "every of them descend" from the Israelites. :) The study that talked about Jews who came to Europe and married people of different ethnicity doesn't imply that the Jews like to marry from their own as you say and I highly doubt that because interracial marriages have been common among every people including Jews and Arabs. The Khazar Empire adopted Judaism, now that is from what we know about documented history now take into consideration of undocumented converts as well. Judaism is a religion that has existed for thousands of years with people coming and leaving the religion which is why the idea of everyone having "Israelite ancestry" becomes problematic at this point.

Anyway I also took a DNA test many months ago and then uploaded my raw DNA data to another site that uses the same algorithm and method that was used in the Khazar study (created and developed by Dr. Eran Elhaik) and I got this which agrees with most of my other results (red is maternal and blue paternal):


#3
There are studies that contradict each other all the time when DNA tests is done on Jews mainly because Jews are diverse people like anyone else and Judaism being a religion also. To discard the Khazar study though would be ridiculous since it is not the only study that points out that (however it should not be used to determine an entire population's ancestry no study should), infact some of these studies exist in this link, notice the various different results: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews

I'd think that Jews are like any people which is diverse just like Palestinians (Palestine has been home for dozens of peoples from the Israelites to the Arabs which has created a diversity through interracial marriages), so some studies on Ashkenazi would point out to Middle Eastern ancestry while others to European. Judaism is a religion that has existed for thousands of years with people coming and leaving the religion (an example being the Khazar empire that adopted Judaism at a certain time point). If I recall it right the Khazar study was also done on Jews who were already from the region (that is countries like Georgia and Armenia) which makes sense. Doing the study on for example French Jews or German Jews would maybe not give the same results but at the same time it would not disregard the idea of these Jews having European ancestry either. Many DNA studies (autosomal) on Jews are carried out by comparing their DNA to those of the local population in the Levant (Syrians, Jordanians, Lebanese, Palestinians and Samitarians) when determining ancestry. 

Then at the end who cares what ancestry many Jews have seriously? Even if the majority of them 'descended' from the Israelites (which they most likely do not) it is not really relevant and does not make a difference. I suppose the Khazar theory is only considered relevant for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict even though it is not 'ancestors' that should be deciding who is right but instead things such as land ownership. We know that Arab land ownership was a lot higher than Jewish land ownership in every city prior to the state of Israel.



#4
Off-Topic / Re: The Music Thread
June 09, 2019, 11:04:25 AM
I found this Arab metal song earlier which is pretty darn good and the video is based on the Ḥashīshiyya too (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Assassins) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnFtZZp7f-c :)
#6
Can speak Arabic fluently but can't read or write in the language and it is my first language.

#7
Introduce Yourself / Re: New here ✋
February 06, 2019, 11:21:29 PM
 :welcome:
#8
Off-Topic / Re: Video Game Talk
December 08, 2018, 11:16:46 PM
How video games have changed a lot since it began especially in terms of graphics :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H6hnFV-nDU
#9
General Issues / Questions / Re: Site updated?
September 09, 2018, 07:02:14 AM
I think the design looks really awesome!  O0

It might be hard to get used to at first because we are used to the old design. Some suggestions/improvements came to my mind :) :

Remove the white-lines/white rectangle thingy that seperate post since I'd say it doesn't fit in. :) Instead add some padding/margin. The line appears on other pages too I think.
The orange dropbutton that says "Profile Info" at the profile could be edited a bit. I think it still looks similar to the one used in the old design but it's probaly because of teh same color. I liked the added hover effect on it though. 8)
When I enter my messages and click on a title in my message box it redirects me to the homepage instead of scrolling down to the message.


#10
Off-Topic / Re: Video Game Talk
September 03, 2018, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: malsi on September 02, 2018, 11:02:32 AM
عوني
What's your league name- Would love a friend of similar mind.

League of Legends? My username is Dovahkinz there https://www.lolskill.net/summoner/EUW/Dovahkinz/summary My character is based in EU West :)