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General Issues / Questions / Re: Road of the Patriarch
« on: January 25, 2012, 07:07:48 PM »
Thank you Pazuzu.
The proofs you have given are simply irrefutable. Waiting impatiently for your last post inshaa'Allah.

May Allah bless you

Dear liar;

Know that Allah will fully judge you, and the proven hypocrite that have spread this rumor (the fake messenger Whereistruth). Do not forget the day of Judgement, because indeed, you will be taken into account for the lies that you have spread.

Forum Suggestions / Re: Can Not Access my Inbox
« on: November 28, 2011, 02:14:58 PM »
Again the problem.

The problem with many new Koranist who come from a Sunni/Shia background is that they still have many aspects of sectarian Islam in them. They don't understand that it takes some time before the Sunni/Shia influence fades from them. They talk in many ways just like a salafi does. They come from a background where kufr, haram and shirk are used generously and they assume that the Koran sees it that way when in reality it does not.

The problem with many Muslims (if you would have read the Quran, you'd understand that it is what Allah has called us) is that they prejudge with no knowledge whatsoever (ex: you and Jafar). You are very wrong in what you have said anyway. It does not matter, we will both fully be judged and we will see who used to invent and lie.

General Issues / Questions / Re: Other/Modern messengers of God?
« on: November 27, 2011, 10:51:12 PM »
Show me the verse... I've never seen "Khatamun Rasulin" (the closure of messengers) anywhere..

Having said that, I don't believe in those 'modern messengers' too..

Naah I don't believe anyone here is a 'devil'...

Better stop 'demonizing' those who are not inline with your opinion.. it's childish and stupid.. just like the sunnis... (or the catholics, jews and other sectarians for that matter)

Salam / Peace

Do not ever advise me, I am not your friend, I do not care what your opinions are on life, or on what is childish, stupid or not. I did not ask you if you believed that some individuals here were "devils" so please, next time, do abstain. I do not "demonize" those who are against my views, stop prejudging and again, I do not care about you nor you opinions.

Show me the verse... I've never seen "Khatamun Rasulin" (the closure of messengers) anywhere..

You seem very confident and pedant. I would advise you to read the Qu'ran a few times, you will too reach the conclusion that Khatamu Rasul is similar to Khatumu l'annbiyaa. I am not saying anymore than this, if Allah wanted you to know, he would have guided you to this, long time ago.

That it is the best translation is NOT my opinion, because I cannot judge as you well show because I do not speak Arabic, but of some knowledgeable people and even some who are severely opposed to Dr R. Khalifa:

Thank you for the post.

Sunnis are very knowledgeable individuals huh ? Anyway, I can tell you with all honesty that in my humble opinion, Rashad Khalifa's "translation" (for me it is another book, and not a translation) is the worst of all. He takes out, adds words, rips contexts out and so on.

It is your choice anyway.

Health & Fitness / For the cancerous and other
« on: November 27, 2011, 01:57:08 PM »

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General Issues / Questions / Laylatu l'Qadr does not occur every year
« on: November 27, 2011, 01:36:34 PM »
I kindly ask followers of Rashad Khalifa to not answer my question.

Most Muslims (I speak of those who follow the Qu'ran alone) believe that laylatul l'Qadr, is a blessed night that occurs some unknown time every year.

97:1    We have sent it down in the Night of Decree.
97:2    And do you know what is the Night of Decree?
97:3    The Night of Decree is better than one thousand months.
97:4    The Malaikah and the Spirit tanazzalu (Descended) in it with the permission of their Lord to carry out every matter.
97:5    It is peaceful until the coming of dawn.

I want to ask the administrators of why did they translate tanazzalu (which is in past tense) to 'come down' (present tense) ? The following verses state that the Qu'ran has been sent down in that night and that the book is a mercy.

44:2    And the clarifying book.
44:3  We have sent it down in a blessed night. Surely, We were to warn.
44:4    In it, is a decree for every matter of wisdom.
44:5    A decree from Us. Surely, We were to send messengers.
44:6    A mercy from your Lord. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable.

Is this not the undeniable proof that Laylatu l'Qadr does not occur every year like the Hadiths declare ? If it was indeed the case, why would Allah use the past tense (they descended) when speaking of the Malaikah and the Spirit ? Why not ya'tanazzalu ?


General Issues / Questions / Re: A meditation technique.
« on: November 27, 2011, 10:39:37 AM »
It is a direct statement that ALLAH is the light of the heavens and the earth.

THEN it goes on to say "a parable/likeness/metaphor". So we know that ALLAH is literally the light.

There is no room to argue here, surely the truth is clear.

I might be slow, after all, I am not a messenger like you and I do not communicate with higher forces (Ashtar commands, remember? ;)) but please, do share your wisdom and explain how Allah being the light of the Heavens and the Earth relates to Pantheism ?

General Issues / Questions / Re: A meditation technique.
« on: November 27, 2011, 10:36:18 AM »

اللَّهُ نُورُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ ۚ مَثَلُ نُورِهِ كَمِشْكَاةٍ فِيهَا مِصْبَاحٌ ۖ الْمِصْبَاحُ فِي زُجَاجَةٍ ۖ الزُّجَاجَةُ كَأَنَّهَا كَوْكَبٌ دُرِّيٌّ يُوقَدُ مِنْ شَجَرَةٍ مُبَارَكَةٍ زَيْتُونَةٍ لَا شَرْقِيَّةٍ وَلَا غَرْبِيَّةٍ يَكَادُ زَيْتُهَا يُضِيءُ وَلَوْ لَمْ تَمْسَسْهُ نَارٌ ۚ نُورٌ عَلَىٰ نُورٍ ۗ يَهْدِي اللَّهُ لِنُورِهِ مَنْ يَشَاءُ ۚ وَيَضْرِبُ اللَّهُ الْأَمْثَالَ لِلنَّاسِ ۗ وَاللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ {35}
[Shakir 24:35] Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp is in a glass, (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star, lit from a blessed olive-tree, neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not-- light upon light-- Allah guides to His light whom He pleases, and Allah sets forth parables for men, and Allah is Cognizant of all things.

Not a single one has been able to provide an answer to this verse. Tell me what it says, please do!

The verse says that Allah is the light of the Heavens and the earth, as you highlighted. I do not see where you are going. Perhaps you are going to enlighten me (on how this verse relates to Pantheism), O Wise IAMOP!

General Issues / Questions / Re: A meditation technique.
« on: November 27, 2011, 10:09:10 AM »
Satan follows his desire, where do I talk about this? Now, I took my site down for maintenance, but we can discuss this later. And where is the sufism?

Paradox Uncreated, I remember you from Facebook, where you tried to sell us the lie that Qu'ran supports pantheism and that everything is Allah and Allah is everything. Now, this is very similar to Sufism, isn't it? Modern Satanists (belief developed by LaVeyen) believe that they are their own Gods, which relates to your speech that everything is Allah and Allah is everything.

Perhaps you changed your view over time, or you are a skillful devil always seeking better ways to deceive or, simply, we all just read you wrong. 

One of the three.

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