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Title: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: The Sardar on January 30, 2020, 09:26:18 AM
What do you guys think of the Corona virus?
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: good logic on January 30, 2020, 09:55:56 AM
Dear Brother.
Now what is interesting is they will come up with a vaccination . Business as usual for the "gate foundation"?

There is some history regarding similar viruses in the past. Same as wars, they happen  for profit and greed/.

Only GOD knows really what is going on . I am not saying I know one way or another ,but I am making a researched guess. I hope I am wrong and this time it is a natural virus ,not human made and produced to keep the business of making money going.

May the lord protect us from viruses and people who spread "fassad" on earth.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: quincy on January 30, 2020, 02:25:01 PM
The machines are doing most of the work - less people are needed.

On the other hand it could be another fearmongering campaign to control the sheeple. Just like the Soros funded climatechange hysteria.

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Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: amin on January 30, 2020, 08:27:51 PM
I think, These virus are infecting, as they have some favorable climate and conditions, as we change in the name of human development, develop new unnatural chemicals, and our body's lack of knowledge of fighting mechanism to these new viruses and also add to it the fear mongering by media.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: good logic on January 31, 2020, 05:32:48 AM
May be most of us(except very few ?!) deserve all the viruses and disasters we get.
Look at what is happening to the humans across the world!!!( May be except very few?!!!) ,here is a list(some of it at least):

- We have become selfish , desiring more money and materials of this world at the expense of human decency.
-we have zero moral standards about caring for the less privileged, we are divided and "racist/hateful" towards the other side(Whatever the other side is to the races , nations and tribes...)
- We accept and support leaders that admit lying to us and stealing wealth from the other side/nations..
- we do not care one iota about each other when it comes to competing about jobs, money status and are easily bought by the very rich and famous and "worship" their system.
-Our leaders pretend to do things in the name of democracy and human values, we know their game, we can clearly see the hypocrisy, but we turn a blind eye and suck up to them and their system of fake democracy!!!
-We support or ignore injustice towards others and oppression of others in the name of being more "civil " than them.
- ...I am sure most of you can add to this list....

What is happening to the majority of humans? How can we manage to sleep at night? Where is our compassion and good instinct gone?
May the lord wake us up!!!
GOD bless you all.
Peace.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: Wakas on January 31, 2020, 07:44:21 AM
Currently it's nothing really to worry about but like with all these new viruses the risk is it can mutate into something more deadly.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: The Sardar on February 02, 2020, 06:02:46 AM
Oh dear:

https://www.thelocal.se/20200131/first-case-of-coronavirus-confirmed-in-jonkoping-sweden
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: The Sardar on February 08, 2020, 10:44:29 PM
Do not worry it's only one confirmed and they managed to contain the problem for now. Alhamdulillah. I hope everyone else is okay.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: Amra94 on February 09, 2020, 07:41:25 AM
The flu kills way more people
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: amin on February 10, 2020, 01:13:38 AM
They say its a novel virus, It could be anything novel in their unhygenic food practices, or novel chemical or biological trials exposed to public. sad to see so many on masks/niqab on, again shows something going very wrong over there.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: good logic on February 10, 2020, 10:29:56 AM
Basically this: 1720 plague, 1820 plague, 1920 plague, 2020 plague...etc:
PANDEMIC OUTBREAKS – Amidst the escalating outbreak of the new coronavirus from Wuhan, China, some  believe that plagues throughout history starting from the 1720 plague, holds a pattern.

The Great Plague of Marseille was the last of the significant European outbreaks of bubonic plague. Arriving in Marseille, France in 1720, the disease killed a total of 100,000 people: 50,000 in the city during the next two years and another 50,000 to the north in surrounding provinces and towns.
Despite the large number of deaths, Marseille recovered quickly from the plague outbreak. Economic activity took only a few years to recover, as trade expanded to the West Indies and Latin America

Then:
 After 1720 Plague, 1820 Cholera Outbreak, 1920 Bubonic Plague ...

1820 – The First Cholera Pandemic – By 1820, cholera had spread to Thailand, Indonesia, and the Philippines. On the island of Java alone, the outbreak caused the death of 100,000 people.

When the first few patients started getting sick in June 1920, bubonic plague was such a foreign possibility that most doctors in the town didn't even consider it, according to reports from the time.
 Also 1920 – The Spanish Flu – In 1918-1920, the world was faced with the influenza pandemic. It would be the first of two pandemics to involve the H1N1 influenza virus.

So what is going to happen in 2020? It seemed like the pattern for deadly pandemic outbreaks occurs every 100 years. Or does it?

What is certain is that this is not the last?
GOD bless you all and keep you safe.
Peace.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: Layth on February 10, 2020, 10:02:28 PM
Peace.

350,000 people die each day on Earth...I doubt this is even news worthy if it wasn't politically motivated.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: good logic on February 11, 2020, 02:52:08 AM
Peace Layth, All.

Who feeds the masses news and why? Food for thought, quote:

According to business insider.com, 90% of the media in the United States is owned and operated by only six companies. This means that GE, News-corp, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner, and CBS are literally controlling almost everything we see, hear, read, listen to, and watch. This means that six companies decide what to feed to us. Six companies control what we know, and what we don’t.

Six companies determine what is important news, and what is not. In 1983 90% of the media was controlled by 50 companies. In just thirty years, it’s gone from 50, to 6. Where is the diversity? Where are the checks and balances? Why is there a monopoly on media and what will happen if this continues?

I’m not saying that I can answer all of these questions, because I can’t. What I’m saying is that we need to wake up and realize that this is a huge problem. The definition of propaganda is information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular point of view. The media is literally feeding us propaganda, and we as a society don’t even recognize or care that it is happening.

The media, in most cases, has a large effect on who is elected president. The media also has a huge effect on the political climate of our country. I think it’s safe to say that people in both political parties are not necessarily happy about the representation and favoritism that certain candidates, and sometimes even certain political parties or ideologies, are getting in the news.

And yes all western media is controlled and fed by the American MSM.

Believe what you hear or believe what you check . Or ignore what you cannot check and does not make sense.
God bless you.
Peace
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: Jafar on February 11, 2020, 09:12:30 AM
The corona virus has mortality rate < 5 %.
Thus incomparable to black death or even HIV virus.

It's a part of influenza family of viruses, with previous outbreak of

1. Much deadlier H5N1 viruses in 2008
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1

2. Less contagious SARS viruses in 2002
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_SARS_outbreak


And just like the previous H5N1 and SARS viruses, some people do came up with ridiculous and as always unproven conspiracy theories...  :rotfl:
From an "Adhab" (Punishment) of an angry God up to the viruses were invented by Israel..  :rotfl:

Viruses, just like any other living being, evolved over time.. new strand of viruses will always came up in the future, some might be more deadlier and more contagious than what we have seen up until now.

Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: good logic on February 11, 2020, 10:36:35 AM
Peace jafar.
 You mean there is no bioweapons?
Here are some far fetched conspiracy stories:

Last year a mysterious shipment was caught smuggling Coronavirus from Canada. It was traced to Chinese agents working at a Canadian lab. Subsequent investigation by GreatGameIndia linked the agents to Chinese Biological Warfare Program from where the virus is suspected to have leaked causing the Wuhan Coronavirus outbreak.

Or this:
Coronavirus may have originated in lab linked to China's biowarfare program

Bioterrorism and biowarfare today: A number of countries have continued offensive biological weapons research and use. Additionally, since the 1980s, terrorist organizations have become users of biological agents.

The threat that biological agents will be used by and on both military forces and civilian populations is now more likely than it was at any other point in history.

And more:
In an explosive interview Dr. Francis Boyle, who drafted the Biological Weapons Act has given a detailed statement admitting that the 2019 Wuhan Coronavirus is an offensive Biological Warfare Weapon and that the World Health Organization (WHO) already knows about it.

In an exclusive interview given to Geopolitics and Empire, Dr. Boyle discusses the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, China and the Biosafety Level 4 laboratory (BSL-4) from which he believes the infectious disease escaped. He believes the virus is potentially lethal and an offensive biological warfare weapon or dual-use biowarfare weapons agent genetically modified with gain of function properties, which is why the Chinese government originally tried to cover it up and is now taking drastic measures to contain it.

The Wuhan BSL-4 lab is also a specially designated World Health Organization (WHO) research lab and Dr. Boyle contends that the WHO knows full well what is occurring.

And on …. And on...One can find all sorts of stories. The truth is somewhere in between or...?
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: Jafar on February 11, 2020, 10:59:22 AM
Peace jafar.
 You mean there is no bioweapons?
Here are some far fetched conspiracy stories:

Last year a mysterious shipment was caught smuggling Coronavirus from Canada. It was traced to Chinese agents working at a Canadian lab. Subsequent investigation by GreatGameIndia linked the agents to Chinese Biological Warfare Program from where the virus is suspected to have leaked causing the Wuhan Coronavirus outbreak.

Or this:
Coronavirus may have originated in lab linked to China's biowarfare program


LOL..
Here's some factual material for you:

Dr Mohamed Zaki who was working  as virologist in Dr Soliman Fakeeh Hospital, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia found a patient in Saudi Arabia, back in 2013 with this new strand of virus which today known as "Corona Virus".
He publishes his finding on this paper.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23075143

Shortly after he published his finding Dr Zaki was fired from the hospital.
His quote:
"They did not like this to appear on proMed. They forced the hospital to terminate my contract. I was asked to leave my job because of this, but this is my job. This is a very serious virus"

Looks like the Saud doesn't like the news of any of their hospital contain a new strand of virus as it might hurts their tourism industry.

Now about this "biological weapon" story, if anyone wanted to come up with biological weapon they will not invented a virus with mortality rate of merely 5%.  :rotfl:


Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: good logic on February 12, 2020, 05:09:53 AM
Anyway here is an update of the virus worldwide:

Novel Coronavirus cases
PlacesConfirmed CasesReported Deaths
China44,6531,        death  113
Cruise ship (Diamond Princess)175          0
Singapore50                                              0
Hong Kong49                                            1
Thailand33                                                0
Japan28                                                    0
South Korea28                                          0
Malaysia18                                               0
Taiwan18                                                   0
Germany16                                              0
Australia15                                               0
Vietnam15                                                0
United States13                                        0
France11                                                  0
Macau10                                                  0
United Arab Emirates8                             0
United Kingdom8                                     0
Canada7                                                  0
India3                                                       0
Italy3                                                        0
Philippines3                                             1
Russia2                                                   0
Spain2                                                     0
Belgium1                                                  0
Cambodia1                                              0
Finland1                                                   0
Nepal1                                                      0
Sri Lanka1                                                0
Sweden1                                                  0
As of 11:00 am GMTFeb 12, 2020

GOD bless.
Peace
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: amin on February 12, 2020, 06:37:57 AM
A lot of research needed about these novel viruses, normally they say Viruses dont go off just by using medicines, but our body needs to fight it out and develop immunity. And viruses act like non living thing in some unfavorable conditions and act as living being in favorable conditions.Instead of relying just on medicines, people need to help one other with information that helps relieve symptoms and in finding the natural cure that will mostly be available at their own place. Govt should allow these to happen instead of policing and controlling the masses.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: Jafar on February 14, 2020, 09:21:39 AM
Anti body is the 'cure' that can neutralize the viruses.
Just like 'common' influenza... where the majority of human living today has developed a well evolved anti body for it, thus it's lethality has greatly reduced.

Except for the minority of isolated people within the jungle of Brazil or remote Andaman islands. Due to their centuries of isolation they haven't developed any kind of anti-body for common influenza any exposure can be lethal for them. Just yet another evidence of human biological evolution... just like viruses who also undergoes their own path of ongoing evolution.

The fatality case for 2019 Corona viruses in majority happened to either, babies and children, senior citizens or people with existing condition. Yet with recovery rate of 95%; it shows that people with well developed and healthy anti body can fight off the virus. Having said that the Corona virus, just like influenza virus; seems to be very contagious and can be transmitted through air or fluid contact.


Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: quincy on March 14, 2020, 05:22:17 AM
A complete hoax... what a surprise. Still entertaining to see those zombies panicking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVHYTdGUAZM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVHYTdGUAZM)
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: The Sardar on March 14, 2020, 08:30:02 AM
A complete hoax... what a surprise. Still entertaining to see those zombies panicking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVHYTdGUAZM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVHYTdGUAZM)
Salam/Peace dear brother, could you explain how it is a hoax?
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: quincy on March 14, 2020, 08:58:57 AM
Peace, brother!

Its just a flu which is propagated as a new and awful virus like they did with SARS or swine flu. A flu can be deadly, yes. But only if your immune system is weak. Eat some pomegranates and have a good sleep :) And even if you die - you win. Fuck this world.

Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: good logic on March 14, 2020, 09:16:27 AM
Nevertheless to millions across the world it is creating chaos!
Sports are off, gatherings are off, schools and colleges are shutting....etc
Businesses are going under, people are panicking and clearing supermarket shelves especially house hold items(masks, toilet paper, sanitation cream...) and food
Some "scums" are selling shortage items at inflated prices(3 to 4 times the recommended price). Greed and robbery from the wicked!,

I can see Saudi Arabia loosing out big time!!!! Umra and Hajj will be cancelled next?
GOD bless you all and keep you safe.
Peace.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: es on March 14, 2020, 09:40:35 AM
I don't follow the news and have only really found out how big this is a couple of days ago. Seriously though, people need to get a grip.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: good logic on March 14, 2020, 09:59:06 AM
Brother The Sardar, sister es, I am not really into conspiracy theories or fiction, but see what you make out of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIeoSqpbj9Y

Anything is possible with the world and empires.
GOD bless you both.
Peace.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: amin on March 14, 2020, 07:09:08 PM
I feel its blown out of proportion because of the modern medical system  we follow works that way and we are now accustomed or addicted to it for our so called developed lifestyle and not many questions raised on their treatments and magic pills.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: quincy on March 14, 2020, 08:09:25 PM
https://lbry.tv/@RedPillPhilosophy:4/corona-special:5 (https://lbry.tv/@RedPillPhilosophy:4/corona-special:5)

Im totally with this dude.

Be water my friend:

https://lbry.tv/@Lo-Fi:0/Caleb-Belkin-Water:2 (https://lbry.tv/@Lo-Fi:0/Caleb-Belkin-Water:2)
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: Zach on April 04, 2020, 06:21:36 AM
Just an appeal to all those who were spouting conspiracy theories or minimizing the threat of Covid-19 to be more cautious next time. I suspect that many have lost trust in the mainstream media, and rightly so. But understand that exchanging MSM for charlatans on YouTube isn’t the way to go.

If you want to stay informed there are many alternative, independent and critical news sites with good investigative journalists and political commentators. A sample:

Current Affairs (https://www.currentaffairs.org/)* / Democracy Now! (https://www.democracynow.org/) / FAIR (https://fair.org/) / The Grayzone (https://thegrayzone.com/) / The Intercept (https://theintercept.com/) / Jacobin (https://www.jacobinmag.com/) / Media Lens (https://www.medialens.org/) / Truthdig (https://www.truthdig.com/)**

* watch for articles by Nathan J. Robinson (editor in chief), possibly the best political analyst today.
** watch for articles by Chris Hedges.

I also highly recommend reading some books by Chomsky; you might learn a thing or two from his approach to thinking about political, social and moral questions.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: MissMarple77 on April 04, 2020, 07:03:16 AM
Who fears misfortune is miserable. Those who deserve misfortune live in constant fear.

Chinese saying
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: good logic on April 05, 2020, 07:40:34 AM
Peace Zach.

You mention these,quote:

"_If you want to stay informed there are many alternative, independent and critical news sites with good investigative journalists and political commentators. A sample:

Current Affairs* / Democracy Now! / FAIR / The Grayzone / The Intercept / Jacobin / Media Lens / Truthdig**

* watch for articles by Nathan J. Robinson (editor in chief), possibly the best political analyst today.
** watch for articles by Chris Hedges.

I also highly recommend reading some books by Chomsky; you might learn a thing or two from his approach to thinking about political, social and moral questions.-"

Is there other independent media worlwide, do you know of any? I mean other than America?
Also what about Jimmy Dore, TYT, The hill,  Tulsi Gabbard(May be she is no media?)...etc.? Would you recommend any?

Fox news is foxy, I mean crafty, they deny some truth from others and give news that they deny they gave afterwards(like Covid19 was a hoax).
 MSNBC give smears and propaganda and call it news(like "there is nothing wrong with Biden(when his condition is clear for all to see when they interview him, Berni is a  pro Russian socialist and every thing is wrong with Trump who is right about them being "Fake news"")
 I like" Democracy now" title, I will try it. I hope they are not democratic like the American leaders pretend to be?

 Of course  one can watch any media really and take what is best( the truth) from all of them. The main thing is if one wants the  real truth, they have to investigste further any information from anywhere to make sure .
Thank you and God bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: werdors on May 18, 2020, 03:00:32 AM
people lost their work due to this virus :muscle:
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: amin on May 18, 2020, 06:42:57 AM
Just an appeal to all those who were spouting conspiracy theories or minimizing the threat of Covid-19 to be more cautious next time. I suspect that many have lost trust in the mainstream media, and rightly so. But understand that exchanging MSM for charlatans on YouTube isn’t the way to go.

If you want to stay informed there are many alternative, independent and critical news sites with good investigative journalists and political commentators. A sample:

Current Affairs (https://www.currentaffairs.org/)* / Democracy Now! (https://www.democracynow.org/) / FAIR (https://fair.org/) / The Grayzone (https://thegrayzone.com/) / The Intercept (https://theintercept.com/) / Jacobin (https://www.jacobinmag.com/) / Media Lens (https://www.medialens.org/) / Truthdig (https://www.truthdig.com/)**

* watch for articles by Nathan J. Robinson (editor in chief), possibly the best political analyst today.
** watch for articles by Chris Hedges.

I also highly recommend reading some books by Chomsky; you might learn a thing or two from his approach to thinking about political, social and moral questions.

This virus spread and intensity is not uniform through out all countries and places, and this WHO and the modern medical science wont accept it, because of the business of pharma behind them, which mostly wants all diseases to be cured by their pills and vaccines instead of healthy lifestyle changes and simple local food habits that helps in the cure. By using pills we are loosing our natural immunity and fall for all kinds of diseases including cancer, diabetes and many other viral diseases.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on Corona Virus?
Post by: watkinsyvonne99 on August 19, 2020, 10:42:04 AM
By knowing the various strains of the disease, a person will know what steps to take in order to prevent the human body from getting infected and suffering from the disease.