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Title: A Christian dishonesty on 9:62.
Post by: The Sardar on May 19, 2019, 12:22:18 AM
Salam everyone, i just came across this video and honestly, just watch it, you are going see me rant a little: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtQ3QcPCplA

Honestly i am absolutely speechless and dumbfounded how he lies about the Arabic words he is claiming. First of he claims that waAllahu warasooluhu (والله ورسوله) is plural........i mean what?! Plural means more than 3! And next thing he says that yurdoo is SINGULAR yet in 9:62, IT IS PLURAL. Allah (SWTAY) says liyurdookum (ليرضوكم) which is PLURAL and referring to does who harms the Prophet (9:61) and also says yurdoohu which is also PLURAL (يرضوه), yes one of the pronoun is singular but other one is plural. You can check the grammar here: http://quranix.org/9#62

Here is a screenshot of yurdoohu:

(https://i.imgur.com/3kwe6QV.png)


Plus the guy even ignores verse like 43:84, 21:108, 20:98, 16:51, 6:19, 4:171, 14:52, 2:163, 18:110, 20:98 that says that He is One God.
Title: Re: A Christian dishonesty on 9:62.
Post by: huruf on May 19, 2019, 12:51:39 AM
a religion merchant, nothing to do with faith or belief.

Salaam
Title: Re: A Christian dishonesty on 9:62.
Post by: The Sardar on May 19, 2019, 12:53:55 AM
a religion merchant, nothing to do with faith or belief.

Salaam
A dishonest one. Not surprising if he will use the Buhkari Hadiths and Tafsir from later centuries after the Divine Revelation/Qur'an.
Title: Re: A Christian dishonesty on 9:62.
Post by: The Sardar on May 19, 2019, 01:31:49 AM
A little side note, a muslim actually responded to this guy other claim about Surah 112: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_VbRXylDzc

Plus Allah (SWTAY) has messengers and of course obeying the messenger is obeying Allah (SWTAY) but that doesn't mean that they are like the same person. What does the messenger do? Deliver the message? Who made the message? Allah (SWTAY). So no, they are not the same person.

Novice, Noon, Good Logic and Wakas, what do you think of this?
Title: Re: A Christian dishonesty on 9:62.
Post by: The Sardar on May 19, 2019, 09:18:58 AM
It's alright dear siblings, i can wait :)
Title: Re: A Christian dishonesty on 9:62.
Post by: The Sardar on May 26, 2019, 08:58:05 PM
a religion merchant, nothing to do with faith or belief.

Salaam
You should love this response by Ben Chohra against that guy above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr1dSgL1QgM
Title: Re: A Christian dishonesty on 9:62.
Post by: good logic on May 27, 2019, 03:25:55 AM
Also if he wanted this way brother the Sardar, then" Allah Wa Rasoolahu" is not Allah and Muhammed the man . It is Allah and His Message. When Muhammed is acting as Rasool he is conveying only Qoran, -GOD  s words-. Hence Allah and his message is only one source.

So you could say "Allah and His word" is singular. Remember Qoran is also  a "messenger" . i.e GOD Alone is "Ahaqu An Tarduhu".

GOD is  saying there is only one source that should be "Turduhu". GOD and His message.

Qoran also serves to show off "the human knowledge" of those who have the wrong understanding and refuse to dig deep for why?!!!
GOD bless you.
Peace