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Title: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: good logic on April 19, 2019, 03:46:52 AM
Peace All.
We are duped ,brainwashed and walking zombies in the clutch of our "empire" systems.
Alarm bells are not recognised by the "comfortable/deluded" majority who are fuelling its destructive path aware or unaware of its aims .

1-USA and its allies, Russia and China and their allies:

USA and its allies are going through expansion of their empires by claiming:
- Democracy and freedom.
-Humanitarian help for the countries they wage wars on or change their regime.
-Freedom and truth of their media.
-The leaders of the countries they "demonise" are monsters and dictators that kill their own people.

While the truth is something like this:
- Democracy of theft and greed for  more wealth.
-Hypocrisy. They only care about power and looking after the big companies and banks.
- Control their media by owning it and feeding it lies and propaganda to fool their own people.
-Most leaders they demonise have been endorsed at some point by their own people. Interference and lies by them.

Example of above:
-Afghanistan-Their people are worse off now than 17 years ago when USA and its allies invaded on false lies.
-Iraq and its inexistent weapons of mass destruction. I do not need to tell you more. Go see for yourself the state Iraq is in now compared to the times of Saddam and before that!
-Libya, Gaddafi challenged them with a new currency for Africa, he had to go. Same story like Afghanistan and Iraq. Civil war and disaster for the Libyan people followed and carries on.
- Syria. Assad uses chemical weapons against his own people scenario  while USA and its allies supports and arms the terrorists of Al Qaeda, Isis and Nusra and all the other factions. Still going on. Russia is involved -Of course also for its own gains- but at least legally invited by Assad. .Another mess this empire is helping to enfold!!!

Russia ,China and their allies.
Another empire, less evil than the one above , but.nevertheless still an empire of power and wealth and getting towards a selfish aim.
At least this empire is here as a balance to neutralise the USA and its allies.

2- UN and its role.
This is becoming two camps of nations undermining each other and achieving nothing good for the people of the world.

Wake up people of the world and open your eyes to your systems!!!!!
Why let others rule you when you possess the power to decide the world you want.
Only GOD has the ultimate power above that and GOD has decided to put you all as Khalifa- kings- all of you as one unit. not USA government or Russian Government or any other government.
All government should rule on your behalf people. Wake up and reclaim your right to have a world of peace, respect, mutual equality and love for all.
Readers, brothers and sisters, people of the world-Including CIA, Mossad, M16, all intelligence of all other countries, all armies of countries all institutions and bank employees and members, left, right socialists, capitalist ,any ists?- reflect on the outcome of what you are doing before it is too late for everybody including yourselves.
History of past empires should be a warning to you. Your wrongdoing will be the cause of your end as empire. Take head!

May be ,just may be the Algerian revolution going on now will be the example to follow;
-They want all the present corrupt government to go
-They want no interference by France USA, Mossad or any other country or system.
-They are calling everyone to demonstrate peacefully until the list of demands is achieved.
-They want to manage their own resources and wealth and use it towards health, infrastructure, education and social projects for their own people.
-They want honest and respectful friendships with other countries and people.
?
This sounds like common sense and I endorse and support people who try to be fair and peaceful.

I pray that all people of the world hold their government to work for the best  of their own people and unite for the honourable aim of peace and respect towards one another.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on April 19, 2019, 05:56:06 AM
This sounds like common sense and I endorse and support people who try to be fair and peaceful.

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31175739_2089672611249319_610994646698017378_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=6b3994e3772cb8600ed8910f35514c5c&oe=5D38B509) (https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35949078_2123765511173362_9199490914882420736_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=cfbb591befa1e1b94efcb497c39eecf0&oe=5D72AB55)

Therefore, become ungovernable (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610611.0) (naturalist = muslim (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610618.0)).
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: hawk99 on April 19, 2019, 05:46:38 PM
Peace All.
We are duped ,brainwashed and walking zombies in the clutch of our "empire" systems.
Alarm bells are not recognised by the "comfortable/deluded" majority who are fuelling its destructive path aware or unaware of its aims .

1-USA and its allies, Russia and China and their allies:

USA and its allies are going through expansion of their empires by claiming:
- Democracy and freedom.
-Humanitarian help for the countries they wage wars on or change their regime.
-Freedom and truth of their media.
-The leaders of the countries they "demonise" are monsters and dictators that kill their own people.

While the truth is something like this:
- Democracy of theft and greed for  more wealth.
-Hypocrisy. They only care about power and looking after the big companies and banks.
- Control their media by owning it and feeding it lies and propaganda to fool their own people.
-Most leaders they demonise have been endorsed at some point by their own people. Interference and lies by them.

Example of above:
-Afghanistan-Their people are worse off now than 17 years ago when USA and its allies invaded on false lies.
-Iraq and its inexistent weapons of mass destruction. I do not need to tell you more. Go see for yourself the state Iraq is in now compared to the times of Saddam and before that!
-Libya, Gaddafi challenged them with a new currency for Africa, he had to go. Same story like Afghanistan and Iraq. Civil war and disaster for the Libyan people followed and carries on.
- Syria. Assad uses chemical weapons against his own people scenario  while USA and its allies supports and arms the terrorists of Al Qaeda, Isis and Nusra and all the other factions. Still going on. Russia is involved -Of course also for its own gains- but at least legally invited by Assad. .Another mess this empire is helping to enfold!!!

Russia ,China and their allies.
Another empire, less evil than the one above , but.nevertheless still an empire of power and wealth and getting towards a selfish aim.
At least this empire is here as a balance to neutralise the USA and its allies.

2- UN and its role.
This is becoming two camps of nations undermining each other and achieving nothing good for the people of the world.

Wake up people of the world and open your eyes to your systems!!!!!
Why let others rule you when you possess the power to decide the world you want.
Only GOD has the ultimate power above that and GOD has decided to put you all as Khalifa- kings- all of you as one unit. not USA government or Russian Government or any other government.
All government should rule on your behalf people. Wake up and reclaim your right to have a world of peace, respect, mutual equality and love for all.
Readers, brothers and sisters, people of the world-Including CIA, Mossad, M16, all intelligence of all other countries, all armies of countries all institutions and bank employees and members, left, right socialists, capitalist ,any ists?- reflect on the outcome of what you are doing before it is too late for everybody including yourselves.
History of past empires should be a warning to you. Your wrongdoing will be the cause of your end as empire. Take head!

May be ,just may be the Algerian revolution going on now will be the example to follow;
-They want all the present corrupt government to go
-They want no interference by France USA, Mossad or any other country or system.
-They are calling everyone to demonstrate peacefully until the list of demands is achieved.
-They want to manage their own resources and wealth and use it towards health, infrastructure, education and social projects for their own people.
-They want honest and respectful friendships with other countries and people.
?
This sounds like common sense and I endorse and support people who try to be fair and peaceful.

I pray that all people of the world hold their government to work for the best  of their own people and unite for the honourable aim of peace and respect towards one another.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.


 :handshake:   well said

Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: good logic on April 20, 2019, 02:33:37 AM
Thanks brother Mahdi and brother hawk.
Sometimes I wonder what some leaders think when they clearly ignore atrocities from one side and only acknowledge their own agenda:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ncJFB2DoY

May be Trump does not really know what Israel is doing to Gazza and its people? Excessively defending itself!!!

Also what is going on behind their back is interesting?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCM5j50H2tU

Or may be all news is fake!!!!
GOD bless you both.
Peace,
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: good logic on April 20, 2019, 10:04:16 AM
Oh, here is an example of the Algerian peaceful revolution happening now. Every Friday ,this is the 9th week:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GQUQkqdyAs

It seems every town is united on the demands and all the inhabitants are singing from the same hymn sheet.
GOD bless .
Peace.
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on April 20, 2019, 11:16:43 AM
The Quran said people from all religions etc must unite (One God/Obedience) for (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610647.0):


If you avoid the major sins (1, 2 and 3 above) that you are forbidden against, then We will cancel your existing sins and admit you to a generous entrance. (4:31)
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: good logic on April 21, 2019, 04:20:02 AM
Peace All.
It is better to summarise why I like this peaceful Algerian way of changing a system-If they succeed?-. Of course all human systems are imperfect as you all know,:
Also here is a summary of the issue(In French, hope google can help translate!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmF6lNZ2hr8

Qoran says only one system will prevail in the end.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: amin on April 21, 2019, 09:26:41 AM
Overall people become selfish, they do not respect nature(God) due to false beliefs, nature supports when its respected and destroys when we go against it.

Prepare to LEARN from God's signs, and do change. Idolizing never helps, be it anything.
Accept respect diversity, we cannot be like others, and others cant be like us, in everything theres give and take, and anyone not blessed with everything.
Be alert, else every idiot try ride on us.
Be transparent and expect transparency.

I think i am talking like our Mahdi. :)
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on April 21, 2019, 11:36:39 AM
Out of billion and trillion of planets... ours are livable and that is THE GREATEST MIRACLE. We have the blueprint for natural law and everything that brings life. Then what makes people think they can compete with nature and establish a new system on Earth? What were they thinking? That is terrible... and Muslims (ecological citizens) should tell those people that there is NO PLANET B.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrzbRZn5Ed4

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28379024_2063066793909901_3732714166292556828_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=9da47ba4db06846f353f8607f7a96fef&oe=5D394541)
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: hawk99 on April 25, 2019, 01:09:44 PM
Thanks brother Mahdi and brother hawk.
Sometimes I wonder what some leaders think when they clearly ignore atrocities from one side and only acknowledge their own agenda:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ncJFB2DoY

May be Trump does not really know what Israel is doing to Gazza and its people? Excessively defending itself!!!

Also what is going on behind their back is interesting?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCM5j50H2tU

Or may be all news is fake!!!!
GOD bless you both.
Peace,

You good brother have a rational empathic mind, but most world leaders
(human & jinn) are processed by a satanic influence.  Civilization is in great
danger because the rulers have succeeded at putting nations, ethnic groups,
races, religions, (yeah I know Islam is not a religion  :) ) against one another.
With us divided it is much easier for the oligarchs to carry out their plan.

The Quran said people from all religions etc must unite (One God/Obedience) for (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610647.0):

Yes



Civil disobedience for the establishment of Natural Justice "Shaytan (forced justice) is your enemy: so treat him as an enemy 35:6"

Of course, the problem being shaytayn has out maneuvered, played on our fears,
lied, terrorized, murdered, convinced thru rhetoric, and used force and other tactics
to have his way. 


                                            :peace:                                                           
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on April 25, 2019, 01:25:45 PM
Of course, the problem being shaytayn has out maneuvered, played on our fears,
lied, terrorized, murdered, convinced thru rhetoric, and used force and other tactics
to have his way. 

it's just a game .. Gandhi succeeded in this game.

(https://scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22528025_2003122909904290_1624440153640455789_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=764a59c4e1e0fc8cd0842930a319a60a&oe=5D01CAB8)
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: Jafar on May 02, 2019, 09:04:04 PM
Don't forget the propaganda propagated by Saudi Arabia and Iran plus Pan Arabism vs Zionism.
Those two pairs of conflicting ideologies are the one who wreak havoc in middle east throughout 20th century.

Entering 21st century, Pan Arabism vs Zionism seems to die down, gradually, while Saudi Arabia vs Iran rise to the prominence.
Which caused the 'shifting' of alliance between kingdoms / nations, and also shifting of the group of people which being labeled as 'demon' / 'enemy'.

Nobody cares about the killing in Yemen or how the Saudis & UAE are actually arming the fanatical sunnis group there (read: Al Qaeda).
Qatar was isolated because the emirs refused to join the Saudi's wagon...

In short, don't be a fanatical supporter of any political group or politicians..
Keep your own sanity by being critical, ask questions always especially towards dogmatized ideas and never afraid.
The weapons possessed by the politicians are FEAR...manifested through spread of Religion and Ideology.
They demands absolute obedience from their mindless minion.

But definitely so far the USA is still the #1 in terms of propaganda..
As a joke said it best..

A man from China landed in JFK airport and being interviewed by the US immigration officer upon entry.
A: "Your purpose of visit sir?"
B: "I'm working in Propaganda Department within CCP, I'm here to learn about how they do propaganda in the USA"
A: "What do you mean propaganda? There's no propaganda in America!"
B: "Exactly! that's what I wanted to learn"

The best propaganda are subtle.. as such only very few realized that it is actually a propaganda..
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on May 02, 2019, 10:03:34 PM
very few realized that it is actually a propaganda..

That's the one and only purpose of the Quran (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610634.0); "do not obey human shaytan (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610664.0) ("Religion" of Islam etc (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610650.0))," and not about ritual salah, fasting, sadaqah, mosque/temple and nonsense etc.  :rotfl:

Pharaoh fooled his people, and they obeyed him. [THEREFORE] They were wicked people. (43:54)

Obey [and bystand, neutral, peacemaking.. ie. frog syndrome 7:133 below] them, be muSHRIK / SHIRK. (https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50708425_2277761332440445_2782912304117710848_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=2638c4d59ab8399a400db17216bb38ab&oe=5CF1F5EC) (6:121)


(https://scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27073177_2051495611733686_6750515736876973967_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=74ebbfe49a7f3c3183b3df11c381e0fb&oe=5D49439A)

Your conditions is like that of the people of Pharaoh (Q8:52)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRsiJLfGj0s6XL3OYS1W--sTsMyk0XwEVhQp54zudFDON0hf0-N7A)

Pharaoh (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610567.0): Do you not then SEE? (Q43:51)
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: good logic on October 25, 2019, 05:09:09 AM
Peace All.
Speaking about empires, Syria is the battle ground of today s empires.
So many lies and propaganda are enfolding . What is the global situation now?

For those interested, this is the latest on Syria:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvZvvp6jdro
And:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om62tVuC0ko
Then this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D11ZbR9uwaA
Is Russia now the new power broker of the middle east?
GOD bless you all.
Peace.
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: Jafar on November 05, 2019, 06:57:49 PM
Speaking about empires, Syria is the battle ground of today s empires.
So many lies and propaganda are enfolding . What is the global situation now?

Syria (and also Yemen) is the BREEDING ground for hatred and resentment. Thus a 'school' for future actors of revenge.

ISIS Wives and Children: Inside Syria's Al Hol Camp, The Breeding Ground for next generation of ISIS
https://youtu.be/eD7hDRTWKjY

Stranded, forgotten and rejected, everyone are afraid of taking them in and/or care for them, labeling them to be the 'damned of the damned'.

The weapons against evil are not hate, rejection and resentment, the weapons against evil are love and compassion.
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: good logic on November 06, 2019, 05:51:30 AM
Brother jafar, here is the history that USA will rather deny?:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881

In the end the truth always prevails.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: Jafar on November 06, 2019, 06:59:00 AM
Politics is more complicated than that, many factors and parties contribute to the actual formation of  ISIS / AlQaeda or other terror group. Politics is about interest, same interest => alliance, conflicting interest => enemies.

As we speak Saudi Arabia and UAE are allying with and actively supplying weapon to Al Qaeda in YEMEN
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2019/02/middleeast/yemen-lost-us-arms/

Same interest: fighting common enemy: the Iran backed Houthi group => Alliance

In any case: blaming will not help either, hatred fought with hatred, will not stop evil..
Evil can only be stopped with Love and Compassion.
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: good logic on November 06, 2019, 09:01:03 AM
Peace jafar.
I may disagree with you on occasions but I strongly agree with you here, quote::

Evil can only be stopped with Love and Compassion.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: Jafar on November 07, 2019, 08:35:22 AM
If this:

ISIS Wives and Children: Inside Syria's Al Hol Camp, The Breeding Ground for next generation of ISIS
https://youtu.be/eD7hDRTWKjY

Not properly addressed, there will be enough fuel of hatred for evil to thrive for the next 30-40 years, spreading further hatred from middle east and exporting it to the rest of the world.

Hate is contagious, the more hate being produced, the more triumphant evil will be, regardless of which side generate those hate, let alone which side actually won/lost the war. Evil feed on hate, it needs hate to survive... The stronger the hate, from whomever side, the stronger it will be.

Understand this, and one will come to a conclusion that Love is the ultimate weapon against evil.

Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: imrankhawaja on November 09, 2019, 10:09:40 PM
Peace jafar.
I may disagree with you on occasions but I strongly agree with you here, quote::

Evil can only be stopped with Love and Compassion.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

I will not pass any judgement but as i feel its interesting to observe what finish/stop the EVIL.I will say not in all cases evil can abolished by LOVE..

started from the first EVIL of history ?

if theres a way to finish evil with something the creator must know about it and would have applied on ibless if that event really happened.and carry on further..

I witness how evil people take advantage of LOVE
love or anything cannot change their state , they cant be good how hard someone tryon them,the creating material of genes may b responsible for the arrogance,hateful, violent, agressive behavior they inherit in their genes.

sometimes people including their close blood relations try hard and try everything possible to make them good with no success.. instead EVIL take advantage of LOVE doing things in love what make proverbs like "everything is fair in love and war"

although love,fear,greed could be tools for changing or blocking the EVIL without any surety/warranty of future..

perhaps the opposite of love is what make people evil @ hate was factor behind the character hitler

in some cases same factor what finish evil can create evil too example
@ insecurity/afraid was the factor behind character ghangess khan ..
@ greed was the factor of invading the land and belongings of weak..

GOLDEN question why humans/jinns/ibless programmed to do that ?
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: good logic on November 10, 2019, 05:33:11 AM
Peace Imran.

Let us look at this question, quote:
GOLDEN question why humans/jinns/ibless programmed to do that ? i.e Do evil/?

First, If you ask most people if they are a good person who deserves to go to heaven-if they believe or not believe-, they will say yes. Why?

Then let us add more questions to yours:

Why do some good people become evil?
Why are human beings capable of degrees of evil?
How are some humans so capable of being so evil?
Are all humans and Jinns capable of   evil?
What is the biggest example of "humans are evil" you know of?
Can children be evil?
What makes people do evil?
What is most evil thing in a human?

 May be some humans and Jinns are so clever they see "evil" as good!!!!
This quote is from Shakespeare rings a bell:
A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.
 GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Human empires of lies, propagonda and greed. Fuelled by its slaves!
Post by: Jafar on November 12, 2019, 05:00:16 PM
I will not pass any judgement but as i feel its interesting to observe what finish/stop the EVIL.I will say not in all cases evil can abolished by LOVE..

in some cases same factor what finish evil can create evil too example
@ insecurity/afraid was the factor behind character ghangess khan ..
@ greed was the factor of invading the land and belongings of weak..


Hate can eliminate other hate to exist, but it will not eliminate evil. It will just be Evil A triumphant over Evil B.
Genghis Khan was driven by hate to eliminate the other's hate to become the ultimate hate.

Evil needs hate to exist.. eliminate the hate then evil will not exist. Only love can do that.

"Tell me what is the objective of war? The objective of war is to conquer the enemy's heart, as long as the enemy's heart is not yet been conquered, the war is far from over"
-- Sun Tzu

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you. "
-- Matt 5

Treat your enemy kindly.. conquer their heart.. by first disabling them on their ability to inflict harm upon others or themselves and then help them to eliminate the hate within their heart through love and kindness.

A good (although not perfect) historical event for reference; was how the US treat Japan and (West) Germany post world war II.