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Science / History / Prophecy => Prophecies of the Quran => Topic started by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 01:49:46 PM

Title: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 01:49:46 PM
Every nation has a Messenger and when their Messenger comes everything is decided between them justly [ = Ecological Jurisprudence/Justice vs Forced Justice/Jurisprudence/Dogma]. They are not wronged. They ask 'Muhammad', "When will this promise (of Final Rasul) be fulfilled?" (10:47-48 > 28:59 > 17:58 > 27:82 > 44:10-11 > 39:54)

Mahdism / Matheism / Mahdist / Matheist

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do your best, ALL MANKIND AND JINN, ALL UNIVERSE! :rotfl:

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 02:10:32 PM
Your Lord would never destroy any cities 'with Climate Change' without first sending to the chief of them a RASUL رَسُولً (Imam al-Mahdi) to recite Our 'Tawba' Signs to them. (28:59)

There is no city We will not destroy before the Day of Rising, or punish with a terrible punishment. (17:58)

So be on the watch for a day when heaven brings forth a distinctive smoke (of Climate Change 1.5 °C), which enshrouds mankind/globally. ´This is a painful punishment! (44:10-11)

When the punishment has been fulfilled against them, We shall bring forth beastly brutes of 'artic Methane' from the Earth declaring that the people certainly do not believe in OUr 'Ecological' Signs. (27:82)

Turn in repentance to your Lord and submit to Him before punishment comes upon you, for then you cannot be helped (with Tawba anymore). (39:54)

When We decide to destroy a town, We command (Our Rasul to) those corrupted by wealth/ecological disorder [to reform], but they [persist in their] disobedience; Our sentence is passed, and We destroy them utterly. (17:16)

When the messengers lost all hope and realized that they had been dismissed as liars, Our help came to them: We saved whoever We pleased, but Our punishment will not be turned away from guilty people. (12:110)

On the day that one of your LordLaw's Signs does come, no iman which a self professes will be of any use to it if it did not have iman before and earn good in its iman. Say: "Wait, then; We too are waiting." (6:158)

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Then, no more TAWBA FOREVER. 2021 - 2025.

Next stage: The Sixth Mass Extinctions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku_UC2gXj-s


Imam al-Mahdi: "O my Lord! Truly my people took this Qur'an for just foolish nonsense." (25:30)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: hawk99 on February 02, 2019, 02:18:40 PM
Peace Mahdi Ibrahim, have you ever been a member of this forum
by any other name?
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 02:35:10 PM
The POINT OF NO RETURN (TAWBA) FOR EARTH : Climate Change 1.5 °C

1. Lower estimate for 1.5 °C : 2016
2. Middle estimate for 1.5 °C : 2018
3. Upper estimate for 1.5 °C : 2021

LESS than 3 years, before NO MORE TAWBA FOR EVER.


This is WEATHER.

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55:58 They look like rubies and coral.
55:59 So which of your Lord's favours will you deny?

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Do your research, it is your life... and not my concern.

When some of them asked, ?Why do you give advice to people who Allah will destroy or punish with a severe suffering??

They answered, In order to be free from blame before your LordLaw (of Nature), and that they may perhaps fear Him / Sunnatullah / Natural LordLaw / Ecological LordLaw. (7:164)


It is the RENT I pay for living on THIS PLANET.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Cerberus on February 02, 2019, 02:46:23 PM
if it's not useful it's not that much worth it.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 02:48:24 PM
It is the WEATHER... and OUR PLANET (LIFE OF EVERYTHING). 

There is "NO YOU" if there is "NO EARTH / ENVIRONMENT". :brickwall:

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Cerberus on February 02, 2019, 03:02:21 PM
why not leave HE who created the earth worry about HIS creation ?

And what if it must all be destroyed ? What say have you in this matter anyways ?
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 03:07:55 PM
Because that's our job:

When your Lord said to the angels, "I am putting a khalif (Environmental Steward) on earth," they said, "Why put on it one who will cause corruption on it and shed blood (REFORMERS)?" (2:30)

Do not corrupt the earth (ecological disorder) after it has been put right. (7:56)

Eat freely from it wherever you will. But do not cut down this tree and so become wrongdoers. (2:35)

Do they not ponder about their own selves? Allah has created the heavens and the earth, and everything in between for a specific purpose and a predetermined period. But most people just fail to accept the meeting/causation with their LordLaw (of Nature). (30:8 )

They are told: "Do not cause corruption (ecological disorder) in the land," they Say: "But we are the REFORMERS" (2:11)

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 03:17:47 PM
Eat freely from it wherever you will. But do not cut down this tree and so become wrongdoers. (2:35)

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 03:22:30 PM
Environmental Steward: Take only what you need and leave the land as you found it.

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Allah will test you with a river ["WATER IN THE WORLD"]. Anyone who drinks from it is not with me. But anyone who does not taste it is with me — except for him who merely scoops up a little in his hand. (2:249)

That home in the Hereafter will We grant 'only' to those who want neither haughtiness nor any corruption (ecological disorder) on earth. The outcome belongs to those who do their "ecological" duty. (28:83)

Have iman in Allah and His Messenger and in the Light. (64:8 )
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Cerberus on February 02, 2019, 03:39:39 PM
One who is sincere enough only need to look within to know what's wrong with the whole world.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 03:42:05 PM
Stupidity: You can't walk with Allah and hold on to the Human Shaytans (Political Jurisprudence),you can't serve two master's. NONSENSE.

ACCORDINGLY:

On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (50:30)

FAIL (Unnaturalist, Mixed, Political Jurispurdence, Forced Justice)

1. Reformer
2. Bystander
3. Peacemaker
4. Neutral

They would like you to be kafir as they are kafir  (bystander, peacemaker, neutral) so that you will all be the same. Do not take any of them as friends until they have made hijra in the Way of Allah  / Sunnatullah / Law of Nature / EcoLogic alone.  (4:89)


PASS (al-Masjid al-Haraam, Pure Natural Belief, Ecological Jurispurdence / Justice)

1. Ecological Citizens
2. Non-cooperation
3. Civil disobedience

We said, "Go down from here as enemies to each other!" (2:36)

Fighting is made mandatory for you, but you dislike it. You may not like something which, in fact, is for your good and something that you may love, in fact, may be evil. God knows, but you do not know. (2:216)

You have an excellent example in Ibrahim and those with him, when they said to their people, ´We wash our hands of you and all that you serve apart from Allah / Sunnatullah / Law of Nature / EcoLogic, and we reject you. Between us and you there will be enmity and hatred for ever unless and until you have iman in Allah / Sunnatullah / Law of Nature / EcoLogic alone.´  (60:4)

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Cerberus on February 02, 2019, 03:45:54 PM
The best knowledge is self knowledge.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 03:53:56 PM
But mankind borned insanes:

Then We returned him to the lowest of the low (ie. INSANE, DESTINED FOR HELL). (95:5)

That is your default value, until you reach ecological enlightenment.

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Destined for HELL.


Original Sin:

We offered the Trust to the heavens, the earth and the mountains but they refused to take it on and shrank from it. But man took it on (despite no offer made to them, ACCORDINGLY) He is indeed wrongdoing and ignorant. This was so that Allah might punish the men and women of the hypocrites, and the men and women of the idolaters.. (33:72-73)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 04:02:49 PM
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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 02, 2019, 04:03:10 PM
Peace Mahdi.
I do not know much about you brother.

However I know about this wise Imam in this parable:

One day some members of a club, who were trying to find answers to some of the great questions of their time, welcomed a newcomer called the wise Imam to their club. He soon joined the debates and a big crowd gathered to listen.

One member began by asking, "Where is the exact center of the world?"
"It is under my right heel," answered the wise Imam.
"How can you prove that?" asked the member.
"If you don't believe me," answered the wise Imam, "measure and see."
The member argued you cannot measure such a thing...and argued ...but gave up

 the second member asked his question. "How many stars are there in the sky?" he said. "As many as there are hairs on my donkey," answered the wise Imam.
"What proof have you got of that?" asked the second member.
"If you don't believe me," answered the wise Imam, "count the hairs on my donkey and you will see."
"That's foolish talk," said the other. "How can one count the hairs on a donkey?"
"Well," answered the wise Imam "How can one count the stars in the sky? If one is foolish talk, so is the other." The second member also gave up.

The third member was becoming annoyed with the wise Imam and his answers, so he said, "You seem to know a lot about your donkey, so can you tell me how many hairs there are in its tail?"
"Yes," answered the wise Imam. "There are exactly as many hairs in its tail as there are in your beard."
"How can you prove that?" said the other.
"I can prove it very easily," answered the wise Imam. "You can pull one hair out of my donkey's tail for every one I pull out of your beard. If the hairs on my donkey's tail do not come to an end at exactly the same time as the hairs in your beard, I will admit that I was wrong."

Of course, the third member also gave up, so the wise Imam declared himself  the winner of the day's arguments.
 
Who can prove anything in our time?
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 04:11:28 PM
That proves all of them are INSANE / DELUSIONAL.

1. If you know something and can prove it.. then answer it. Believe in it.

2. If you don't know, and cannot prove it.. then admit you don't know. Why believe in something you cannot prove?

That is KNOWLEDGE / WISDOM.

"... The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge." Stephen Hawking

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 04:28:26 PM
This is WEATHER, and people can prove WEATHER.

It is with CAUSE & EFFECT.

It is REAL.

The point of NO RETURN = The point of NO TAWBA.

Do they not ponder about their own selves? Allah has created the heavens and the earth, and everything in between for a specific purpose and a predetermined period. But most people just fail to accept the meeting/causation/CAUSE & EFFECT with their LordLaw (of Nature). (30:8 )

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 05:16:45 PM
IF you have doubts about what We have sent down to Our slave

(Our LordLaw proves that We are Messengers 36:16)

[THEN] produce another sura (argument for "Law" / "Jurisprudential System") equal to it

and call your witnesses, besides Allah / Sunnatullah / Law of Nature

if you are telling the truth.

[BUT] IF you do not do that (counterargument)

and you will not do it

THEN fear the Fire whose fuel is people and stones,

made ready for the kafirun.

(2:23-24)

Have iman in Allah (MATH) and His Messenger (E) and in the Light (ISM). (64:8 )

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Sultan Brandon on February 02, 2019, 05:43:12 PM
Well you're too arrogant and self righteous and your images with bad fonts are filled with clutter make no sense.  And you don't quote the Qur'an correctly.

But if you still think you're the Mahdi then tell us when you've defeated Shayton and established God's system on earth, God willing.  Or do you plan something else?
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: jkhan on February 02, 2019, 06:53:44 PM
Oops....
I didn't see this thread.....
Had I seen I would not have wasted my time with him in Fighting for piece of pork :rotfl:
Which nations messenger are you?  :whatever:
I wish Antarctica so you can say something about the shape of the earth.....
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: jkhan on February 02, 2019, 07:07:28 PM
Every nation has a Messenger and when their Messenger comes everything is decided between them justly [ = Ecological Jurisprudence/Justice vs Forced Justice/Jurisprudence/Dogma]. They are not wronged. They ask 'Muhammad', "When will this promise (of Final Rasul) be fulfilled?" (10:47-48 > 28:59 > 17:58 > 27:82 > 44:10-11 > 39:54)

Mahdism / Matheism / Mahdist / Matheist

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do your best, ALL MANKIND AND JINN, ALL UNIVERSE! :rotfl:

Messengers are not to afraid... Come to my Colombo or India my great grand pa place... Lots people here who are against one God(Energy) belief.. Rather than stuck in a website... Show yourself... Spread the message...
Wait a minute... I was talking to a messenger... Is that true.... 😧
Messengers won't hide behind the screen... Then ask your topic thread question from everyone.... Why do we need to prove you are even we have not seen you....
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 11:23:47 PM
Well you're too arrogant and self righteous and your images with bad fonts are filled with clutter make no sense.  And you don't quote the Qur'an correctly.

But if you still think you're the Mahdi then tell us when you've defeated Shayton and established God's system on earth, God willing.  Or do you plan something else?

That is the traits of a Rasul, THE UNLETTERED...  :rotfl:

You have an excellent example in Ibrahim and those with him, when they said to their people, ´We wash our hands of you and all that you serve apart from Allah / Sunnatullah / Law of Nature / EcoLogic, and we reject you. Between us and you there will be enmity and hatred for ever unless and until you have iman in Allah / Sunnatullah / Law of Nature / EcoLogic alone.´  (60:4)

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 11:33:10 PM
Messengers are not to afraid... Come to my Colombo or India my great grand pa place... Lots people here who are against one God(Energy) belief.. Rather than stuck in a website... Show yourself... Spread the message...
Wait a minute... I was talking to a messenger... Is that true.... ????
Messengers won't hide behind the screen... Then ask your topic thread question from everyone.... Why do we need to prove you are even we have not seen you....

Those who recite the Book/Ordain of Allah / Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature and establish salat (natural duty) and give of what We have provided for them, secretly and openly, hope for a transaction which will not prove profitless: (35:29)

Yes, I'm suing the King and taking over this country in Constitutional Islam .. .it takes some time to do all these, but that's not the main point.. the main point is im working out to give Allah all the proof so that it is justified for Allah to punish all mankind with Climate Change, and throw them into Hell for ever. That is my real purpose, I must prove you have no iman in the Rasul / SUNNATULLAH ALONE / LordLaw of NATURE. The sooner, the better.  >:D

When the messengers lost all hope and realized that they had been dismissed as liars ... [THEN] OUR PUNISHMENT...(12:110)

There is no city We will not destroy before the Day of Rising, or punish with a terrible punishment. (17:58)


On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (50:30)

Even if you asked forgiveness for them seventy times, Allah still would not forgive them. That is because they have rejected Allah and His Messenger. (9:80)

Obey Allah and obey His Messenger, and do not let all your good deeds come to nothing. (47:33)

not my concern at all... lol

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On that day those who were kafir and disobeyed the Messenger (of NATURE, of SUNNATULLAH ALONE) will wish that they were one with the level earth. They will not be able to hide a single circumstance from Allah. (4:42)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 02, 2019, 11:57:18 PM
We divert their hearts and eyesight, as they did not believe in it (Sunnatullah ALONE / LordLaw of Nature / NATURE) the first time; and We leave them wandering in their transgression. (6:110)

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Thus, hypocrisy followed in their hearts until the Day they meet Him ... (9:77)

They said: "Our hearts are sealed!" No, it is Allah has cursed them for their kufr (of the Sunnatullah Alone / LordLaw of Nature / Nature). What little iman (in the Sunnatullah Alone / LordLaw of Nature / Nature) they have! (2:88)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 03, 2019, 05:42:09 AM
Peace Mahdi.
I am seriously asking you a few questions  from what you say here, quote:

Yes, I'm suing the King and taking over this country in Constitutional Islam .. .it takes some time to do all these, but that's not the main point.. the main point is im working out to give Allah all the proof so that it is justified for Allah to punish all mankind with Climate Change, and throw them into Hell for ever. That is my real purpose, I must prove you have no iman in the Rasul / SUNNATULLAH ALONE / LordLaw of NATURE. The sooner, the better. 

Here are my questions/queries:
1- Which king are you suing and in which country?
2-Why are you requesting from the Merciful that all mankind should be punished? Does it seem harsh?
3- What about the old generations that are no longer here and the future generations that you have not encountered? Should they deserve hell automatically?
4- What about those that are still asking you questions to confirm who you really are? Is it fair that you do not give them a chance to make up their mind to find you out?
By the way, I pass on your offer. If I am doomed do not pray for me 70 times to be saved. If I deserve hell, I will have only myself to blame.
 I appreciate a reply.
Thank you.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 09:50:28 AM
1- Which king are you suing and in which country?

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The angels ask those they take while they are wronging themselves, ´What were your circumstances?´ They reply, ´We were oppressed on earth.´ They say, ´Was Allah´s earth not wide enough for you to have made hijra elsewhere in it?´ The shelter of such people will be Hell. What an evil destination! (4:97)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 09:51:28 AM
2-Why are you requesting from the Merciful that all mankind should be punished? Does it seem harsh?

On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (50:30)

It have already been decided by Allah, not me... I just followed what has been decided by Allah. Therefore ask Allah if His decision is harsh, not at all. You are the enemy of the Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature / Ecology.  >:D
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 09:52:44 AM
3- What about the old generations that are no longer here and the future generations that you have not encountered? Should they deserve hell automatically?

no problem..

Every nation has a Messenger ... (10:47)

and

Messenger = Witness from Allah, for the Final Trial..

and as long their Rasul with them.

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 09:54:10 AM
4- What about those that are still asking you questions to confirm who you really are? Is it fair that you do not give them a chance to make up their mind to find you out?

Who ask you to believe in me? How many Rasul we have in our time? Any Rasul would only make an argument for their people to believe in NATURE, Sunnatullah Alone, Earth Jurisprudence / Ecological Justice, the al-Masjid al-Haraam vs. Forced Justice / Political Jurisprudence .. so what's there to confirm on Nature / LordLaw of Cause & Effect?  :rotfl:

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If you cannot recognize the Rasul, then you're blind and have not yet make the syahadat. All this while, you have only "BEAR WITNESS" to NOTHING / NONSENSE.

#Wishful_Thinking_is_one_thing_reality_another
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 09:56:29 AM
By the way, I pass on your offer. If I am doomed do not pray for me 70 times to be saved. If I deserve hell, I will have only myself to blame.

There is no offer at all, impossible. Even Ibrahim was not allowed to pray for forgiveness of  his father. 

You have an excellent example in Ibrahim and those with him, when they said to their people, ´We wash our hands of you and all that you serve apart from Allah / Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature / Nature / EcoLogic / Ecological Justice, and we reject you. Between us and you there will be enmity and hatred for ever unless and until you have iman in Allah / Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature / Nature / EcoLogic / Ecological Justice alone.´ Except for Ibrahim´s words to his father: ´I will ask forgiveness for you but I have no power to help you in any way against Allah / Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature / Nature / EcoLogic / Ecological Justice.´ ´Our Lord, we have put our trust in You. and have made tawba/align to You/Nature. You are our final destination/cause & effect. (60:4)

Do you desire to guide/pray/etc people Allah has misguided? (4:88)

no way, impossible.  >:D
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 09:58:45 AM
If I deserve hell, I will have only myself to blame.

Of course.

Heaven is not for the insane / false self. It is not Mental Hospital.

https://facebook.com/notes/matheism/enlightenment/2072023716347542/

I swear by your LordLaw (of Nature / Sunnatullah) that they will not be considered 'Muslims' until they let you judge their disputes and then they will find nothing in their souls to prevent them from accepting your judgment, and surrender in full submission. (4:65)

ie. either be a Conditional Believer (Muslim).. else, a Mushrik etc.

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You cannot will, except if Allah wills (ie. obey His Rasul). (76:30)

...Obey His Messenger, and do not let all your good deeds come to nothing. (47:33)

On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (50:30)

Those who have 'common sense' and do natural/ecological actions, how few they are! (38:24)

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 10:54:35 AM
ALLAH = TRUTH = Nature / Natural = EcoLogical
SHAYTAN = LIES = Unnature / Unnatural = Illogical
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Good people DISOBEY BAD LAWS / RULES


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You can run from the Truth/Nature. You can run and hide from the Truth/Nature. You can deny and avoid the Truth/Nature. BUT you cannot destroy the Truth/Nature. Nor can you make the LIE/UNNATURE TRUE/NATURAL.

That is because they disliked what Allah / Sunnatullah / Nature / LordLaw of Nature / EcoLogic sent donwn (11:17, Math+E+Ism), SO HE MADE THEIR WORK USELESS. (47:9)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 03, 2019, 10:58:19 AM
Peace Mahdi.
Thank you for the answers.
To be honest with you, I do not comprehend your message.
What do you expect people to do?
 I do not burn CO2, I do not dislike nature, I do not oppress people,animals or insects and I certainly do not cut the forest or damage the environment..At least I do not do any bad things intentionally. Apart from that what would you like me to do for nature?
Yet you say that I do not like sunnatuallah(nature) or do you mean all of us?
To me sunnatuallh is not nature ,it is a way of living.
You have decided I am an enemy of sunnatuallah why?
Apart from that you are free to do your stuff how you like.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 11:35:41 AM
That's fine... certain experiences and basic knowledge are requires before you can understand some of the topics; and for some...

When Allah desires to guide someone, He expands his breast to Islam. When He desires to misguide someone, He makes his breast narrow and constricted as if he were climbing up into the sky. That is how Allah defiles those who have no iman (in SUNNATULLAH ALONE). (6:125)



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What do you expect people to do?  I do not burn CO2, I do not dislike nature, I do not oppress people,animals or insects and I certainly do not cut the forest or damage the environment..At least I do not do any bad things intentionally. Apart from that what would you like me to do for nature?

Do bad things; "disobey bad peoples / bad laws / bad rules"

First instruction:


So Allah wants you to make a clear distinction that either you belong to:

1. Political Jurisprudence / Mixed True & Falsehood
2. Ecological Jurisprudence Alone / Sunnatullah Alone

The action taken must be according to the People of Ibrahim...

Fighting is made mandatory for you, but you dislike it. You may not like something which, in fact, is for your good and something that you may love, in fact, may be evil. God knows, but you do not know. (2:216)

You have an excellent example in Ibrahim and those with him, when they said to their people, ´We wash our hands of you and all that you serve apart from Allah / Sunnatullah / Law of Nature / EcoLogic, and we reject you. Between us and you there will be enmity and hatred for ever unless and until you have iman in Allah / Sunnatullah / Law of Nature / EcoLogic alone.´  (60:4)


ELSE

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If you avoid the major sins (read above) that you are forbidden against, then We will cancel your existing sins and admit you to a generous entrance. (4:31)

You will not find people/muslims who have iman in Allah and the Last Day on friendly terms with anyone who opposes/bystanding Allah/Law of Nature and His Messenger/Natural Person/Natural Law, though they be their fathers, their sons, their brothers or their clan. Allah has inscribed iman upon such people´s hearts and will reinforce them with a Ruh from Him and admit them into Gardens with rivers flowing under them, remaining in them timelessly, for ever. Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. [ONLY] Such people are the party of Allah. Truly it is the party of Allah who are successful. (58:22)



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Yet you say that I do not like sunnatuallah(nature) or do you mean all of us?[/color]

Yes, half-truth (political jurisprudence) is whole lies.

Their behavior is similar to that of the people of Pharaoh, and those before them. They denied the signs of their LordLaw (of Nature / Ecology): We destroyed them for their sins, and We drowned Pharaoh's people- they were all evildoers. (8:54)

On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (50:30)



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To me sunnatuallh is not nature ,it is a way of living.

Wrong



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You have decided I am an enemy of sunnatuallah why?

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Apart from that you are free to do your stuff how you like.

Of course

When some of them asked, ?Why do you give advice to people who Allah will destroy or punish with a severe suffering??

They answered, In order to be free from blame before your LordLaw (of Nature), and that they may perhaps fear Him / Sunnatullah / Natural LordLaw / Ecological LordLaw. (7:164)


It is the RENT I pay for living on THIS PLANET.

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: quincy on February 03, 2019, 11:42:47 AM
When Allah desires to guide someone, He expands his breast to Islam. When He desires to misguide someone, He makes his breast narrow and constricted as if he were climbing up into the sky. That is how Allah defiles those who have no iman (in SUNNATULLAH ALONE). (6:125)

Exactly.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 11:52:51 AM
AND The foundation for insanity.

Some are insane and others are not, and that the difference is determined by NATURE and not by cultural forces, factors, forced justice or religion.

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 12:28:53 PM
The crime of being a bystander, peacemaker, neutral... ie. Shaytan's Army.

  • [ARMY OF SHAYTAN / BYSTANDER / NEUTRAL / PEACEMAKER] They are now neither from you nor from them. (58:14) ...  It is they who are Shaytan's army. (58:19)

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 03, 2019, 12:53:22 PM
Peace Mahdi .
You want me to do this?
Non cooperation.
Civil disobedience.
That is all I understood. The rest of your posts are like this:

?No use crying over spilled milk?
Bad things are going to happen, and that?s the way the cookie crumbles according to one the most common sayings out there. But while dwelling on past losses can prolong your pain, suppressing your emotions can be even worse. As reported in The Antidote: Happiness for People Who Can?t Stand Positive Thinking, ?Bereaved people who make the most effort to avoid feeling grief take the longest to recover from their loss.? Or, to put it in more lactose-tolerant terms, ?Sometimes we should cry over spilled milk,? philosopher Aaron Ben-Ze?v writes, ?otherwise how will we learn to value milk and how will we avoid spilling it again??

 ?Money can?t buy happiness?
Long-term happiness is fleeting no matter what your bank account looks like, but research shows that money can, in fact, buy you short-term bursts of joy?if you spend wisely. Buying yourself experiences like concerts or vacations has been linked to greater happiness than material purchases, and even the anticipation of a fun event can cause substantial enjoyment, regardless of whether the experience delivers. But maybe most importantly, people who spend money on others are proven to be measurably happier than those who spend on themselves. So do yourself a favor: buy happiness for someone else. If you?re guilty of saying this, check out 70 words (and phrases) you?re probably using wrong.

?Pick the low-hanging fruit first?
Rueda says its common practice to pick trees from top to bottom, so that the sacks of apples that pickers carry around their necks grow heavier as they work downward. To pick the low-hanging fruit first would mean climbing against gravity with an increasingly heavy load?and also preventing heavily-shaded fruit from ripening. ?Fruit that is high up, exposed to the sun, ripens the fastest,? adds USDA plant breeder Gennaro Fazio. ?You want to pick the low-hanging fruit last, so it has more time to develop.? Using this phrase can make you look less than intelligent even though its one of the most common sayings.

?Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you?ll land among the stars?
?And die in the cold nothing of space. On average, the moon orbits 238,800 miles away from Earth. Here are spooky facts about the moon you never knew. Assuming you time your botched moonshot with a solar eclipse so that the moon is perfectly aligned with Sol, our nearest star, you only have another 93 million miles or so of floating to go before you reach it. Unfortunately, you?d die of cosmic radiation about halfway there. The good news is, you needn?t leave your living room to be ?among? the stars. As a resident of the universe, you already are!

And on ...and on.. all these pages and honestly I still do not know your aim.

But that is fine by me also. I am just being honest with you.
I have read your quotes and translated(weirdly)verses hundreds of times and even though they may make sense in general I am struggling to understand them pasted together .
But carry on if you wish ,you are free.
Sorry brother ,my opinion.
GOD bless you.
Peace
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 01:14:26 PM
You want me to do this?
Non cooperation.
Civil disobedience.
That is all I understood. The rest of your posts are like this:

We call that being brainwashed

Deaf, dumb, and blind: they will never return. (2:18)

or... have zero/no basic knowledge in Jurisprudence and the world system (Pharoah, Haman and Qarun).

(http://www.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/319828-I-Am-Responsible-For-What-I-Say...i-Am-Not-Responsible-For-What-You-Understand....jpg)

and you're right on the:


By no means, do not obey them. (68:19)

Do not obey the disbelievers/political jurisprudence/forced justice, but strive against them with all your might. (25:52)

Obey them, be muSHRIK. (6:121)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 01:24:32 PM
Some of them asked, ?Why do you give advice to people who Allah will destroy or punish with a severe suffering?? They answered, In order to be free from blame before your LordLaw (of Nature).... (7:164)

Cause of WARS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivNVrlLVV-M

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accordingly, competition and monopoly..

the propaganda for HUMAN FARMING.

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They all denied the MESSENGERS, so they deserved My punishment/Hell. (38:14)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 03, 2019, 02:04:09 PM
Hallelujah brother!
We agree on the cause of wars.
Now as long as you mean" by the better argument" when you say: "FIGHT THEM..."


Oh and here is one last quote (But no fancy pictures):

I would never fight for my beliefs because I might be wrong.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 02:07:36 PM
I would never fight for my beliefs because I might be wrong.

There is no beLIEf in NATURE... just facts.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 02:11:40 PM
We agree on the cause of wars.
Now as long as you mean" by the better argument" when you say: "FIGHT THEM..."

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There would be no game of Chess if the Pawns refused to play...

By no means, do not obey them! (68:19)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 02:18:34 PM
We're all being played...

Pharoah fooled his people, they obeyed him. They were truly rebellious people (kafir). (43:54) Obey them, be muSHRIK. (6:121)

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 03, 2019, 02:50:50 PM
Peace Mahdi .
You say there are no beliefs just facts.
You mean you do not believe your facts?
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 02:51:43 PM
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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 02:54:27 PM
You say there are no beliefs just facts.
You mean you do not believe your facts?

Fact is a Fact.

A fact is a thing that is known to be consistent with objective reality and can be proven to be true with evidence.

I don't have a belief/opinion, and I don't need one... else, I'm deleting all beliefs/doctrines/dogmas.

Belief/opinion is for religious people etc... it is SHIRK.

Say, "This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences! I, as well as those who follow me, call you towards Allah / Fact / Nature / Mathematical Pattern / ENERGY. He is the most High/Truth! I would never commit the sin of shirk (belief). (12:108)

They are only following their guess (belief), and they only tell lies (shaytan). (10:66)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 03:05:39 PM
Do not follow blindly what you do not know to be true [ie. "Do not follow your BELIEF"]: ears, eyes, and heart, you will be questioned about all these. (17:36)

BELIEF = FEAR [You + Others = Shirk]

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SAY: He, ENERGY, is ONE (FACT). (112:1)

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 03, 2019, 03:34:00 PM
NO BELIEF

The best of all provision is self-consciousness/FACT. (2:197)

The pure natural believers are only those who have had iman in Allah/ENERGY/MATHEMATICAL PATTERN and His Messenger/NATURAL PERSON/NATURAL LAW and then have had no doubt/FACT (vs. self-deception). (49:15)

Rumi — 'I searched for God and found only myself. I searched for myself and found only God.'

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 04, 2019, 05:22:01 AM
Peace Mahdi.
If you do not believe your facts or do not believe in your facts, then your facts must be wrong.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 05:36:48 AM
Here, take your time to understand this.. .

Fact is a Fact.

A fact is a thing that is known to be consistent with objective reality and can be proven to be true with evidence.

...

Belief/opinion is for religious people etc... it is SHIRK.

Say, "This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences! I, as well as those who follow me, call you towards Allah / Fact / Nature / Mathematical Pattern / ENERGY. He is the most High/Truth! I would never commit the sin of shirk (belief, ie. vs. proofs and evidences). (12:108)

They are only following their guess (belief, "the feeling"), and they only tell lies (shaytan). (10:66)


No shirk = with proofs and evidences
Shirk = without proofs and evidences



belief, noun

1. an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/belief

belief, noun

the feeling of being certain that something exists or is true:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/belief
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 04, 2019, 05:55:21 AM
Peace Mahdi.
If someone told me a fact and I have proof that it is true ,then I say to them:

I believe you.

This belief has evidence.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 06:14:37 AM
Out of context/topic/issue/established meaning and I'm not to argue 30 pages for this issue and wasting my time with your ad nauseam.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 04, 2019, 06:24:38 AM
I was saying if belief is backed up by evidence, then what is wrong with it?

I think you meam blind faith?
GOD bless.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 06:32:06 AM
How does your argument relate to this issue?

Say, "This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences! I, as well as those who follow me, call you towards Allah / Fact / Nature / Mathematical Pattern / ENERGY. He is the most High/Truth! I would never commit the sin of shirk (belief, ie. vs. proofs and evidences). (12:108)

They are only following their guess (belief, "the feeling"), and they only tell lies (shaytan). (10:66)

No shirk = with proofs and evidences
Shirk = without proofs and evidences


What is the merit of your argument for the above context?

Without purpose?
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 04, 2019, 06:44:58 AM
My argument is that belief with evidence does not fit in your translation..
Try "blind faith", it is a better alternative.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 09:11:49 AM
No issue, and I have no concern where it does not relate to the above verses, there is no significance in your argument.. belief still "They are only following their guess (belief, "the feeling"), and they only tell lies (shaytan). (10:66)"

If someone told me a fact and I have proof that it is true ,then I say to them:

I believe you.

It is a fact on my part ("someone told me a fact  and I have proof that it is true" - have iman / direct evidence)

Believe on your part ("I believe you / assumptions / without proofs and evidences" - no iman / hearsay evidence)


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Do you do not see how Allah makes a metaphor of a good word: a good tree whose roots are firm and whose branches are in heaven? It bears fruit regularly by its Lord´s permission. Allah makes metaphors for people so that hopefully they will pay heed. It bears fruit regularly by its Lord´s permission. Allah makes metaphors for people so that hopefully they will pay heed.

The metaphor of a corrupt word is that of a rotten tree, uprooted on the surface of the earth. It(s argument) has no staying-power.

Allah makes those who have iman firm with the Firm Word in the life of this world and the Next World. But Allah misguides the wrongdoers (with corrupt word/argument). Allah does whatever He wills. (14:24-27)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: TellMeTheTruth on February 04, 2019, 09:34:16 AM
Salam!

I can prove that you are not Imam al Mahdi.

May Allah bless and guide us all!
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 09:40:42 AM
Please do so..

do your best, ALL MANKIND AND JINN, ALL UNIVERSE! :rotfl:

Argument: Law is the conditions of natural harmony for all species.

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Allah would never destroy human habitation (with climate change / the sixth mass extinctions / 17:58) without FIRST SENDING A RASUL (رَسُولًا) to its centre, reciting our Signs/Tawba to them. (28:59)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4gjC2LCc00I/maxresdefault.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku_UC2gXj-s
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: TellMeTheTruth on February 04, 2019, 10:06:24 AM
Salam!

You should have stopped more forum posts because I have told you that I can prove that you are not Imam Al-Mahdi. Because you claim that Mahdi will talk in "مھد" as per 3:46. Whereas Allah has told us that it is Isa Ibne Maryam and not Imam Al-Mahdi:
,,,٥_١١٠   إِذْ قَالَ ٱللَّهُ يَٰعِيسَى ٱبْنَ مَرْيَمَ ٱذْكُرْ نِعْمَتِى عَلَيْكَ وَعَلَىٰ وَٰلِدَتِكَ إِذْ أَيَّدتُّكَ بِرُوحِ ٱلْقُدُسِ تُكَلِّمُ ٱلنَّاسَ فِى ٱلْمَهْدِ وَكَهْلًۭا
005:110 When Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember My favour unto thee and unto thy mother; how I strengthened thee with the holy Spirit, so that thou spakest unto mankind in the cradle as in maturity; ...

3:46 also talks about Isa ibne-Maryam - see context i.e., 3:45

Please do not change your stance and declare yourself Isa Ibne-Maryam now. Thanks!

Hundreds of scientists are warning about Global Warming, Lack of Biodiversity and Increas in Human Population for years so you have no new message neither no solution for these issues. So please, do not waste our time. Thanks!

May Allah bless and guide us all!
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 10:07:49 AM
Isa is dead.  :rotfl:

Every nation has a Messenger and when their Messenger comes everything is decided between them justly [ = Ecological Jurisprudence/Justice vs Forced Justice/Jurisprudence/Dogma]. They are not wronged. They ask 'Muhammad', "When will this promise (of Final Rasul) be fulfilled?" (10:47-48 > 28:59 > 17:58 > 27:82 > 44:10-11 > 39:54)

Game over.

Next.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: TellMeTheTruth on February 04, 2019, 10:08:55 AM
So are you!

LOL!
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 10:10:14 AM
What is your next argument?

Tell me..  >:D

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Our LordLaw proves that we are most surely Messengers. (36:16)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 10:28:29 AM
Please try harder.. .  >:D

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: TellMeTheTruth on February 04, 2019, 10:30:38 AM
Salam!

Our LordLaw proves that we are most surely Messengers. (36:16)
So I am also a messenger - and you are denying me?

Dajjal is nothing. There is no coming of Dajjal. There is no mention of Dajjal in Quran.

Also, please do not quote Qur'anic ayats out of context. Thanks!

May Allah bless and guide us all!
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 10:35:04 AM
Our LordLaw proves that we are most surely Messengers. (36:16)
So I am also a messenger - and you are denying me?


prove it..

which jurisprudential school that you belong?

what is your "definition of Law"?  >:D
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 10:39:34 AM
On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (50:30)

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e.g. http://www.christiananimism.com/

Which one?
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: TellMeTheTruth on February 04, 2019, 10:48:41 AM
Salam!

Natural law, that instinctive sense of justice and of right and wrong, which is native in mankind.

Allah has also mentioned in Quran that He has made known every nafs its good and bad. I forgot the ref. Ayat.

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 10:51:32 AM
Do you understand the questions?

prove it..

which jurisprudential school that you belong?

what is your "definition of Law"?  >:D


Do you even know what is Jurisprudence?  any idea of it? :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: TellMeTheTruth on February 04, 2019, 10:54:20 AM
Salam!

Do you understand a question? I will ask you one:

Do you think that the End Times (Al-Qiyamah) is near?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 11:03:39 AM
What does that have to do with your claim as Messenger?

Our LordLaw proves that we are most surely Messengers. (36:16)
So I am also a messenger - and you are denying me?


Make sense?


So please answer these questions...

prove it..

which jurisprudential school that you belong?

what is your "definition of Law"? >:D




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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: TellMeTheTruth on February 04, 2019, 11:06:25 AM
Salam!

I have already answered your question. It is not my fault if you do not understand it.
Answer my only question and we can discuss further or stop right there.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 11:10:53 AM
Where?

Which School of Thought?

What is the definition of Law you've given in this thread?

Show me... . :rotfl:


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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 04, 2019, 11:12:50 AM
Slm Mahdi Ibrahim,

how did you know you are a chosen one ??  are you visited by angels ?? or did you hear Allah ... or is it your own understanding that your an mahdi/messenger.

i like your explanations and the way you presented , the time you spend on this ... but its hard to beleave that your an mahdi ..
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: TellMeTheTruth on February 04, 2019, 11:13:28 AM
Refer to Reply #68 for my answer.
Now answer my question. I have to sleep.
 :jedi:

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 11:14:47 AM
Okay, so you admit you are not the Messenger.

>> how did you know you are a chosen one ??

Simple.

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Every nation has a Messenger and when their Messenger comes everything is decided between them justly [ = Ecological Jurisprudence/Justice vs Forced Justice/Jurisprudence/Dogma]. They are not wronged. They ask 'Muhammad', "When will this promise (of Final Rasul) be fulfilled?" (10:47-48 > 28:59 > 17:58 > 27:82 > 44:10-11 > 39:54)

Mahdism / Matheism / Mahdist / Matheist

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do your best, ALL MANKIND AND JINN, ALL UNIVERSE! :rotfl:

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: TellMeTheTruth on February 04, 2019, 11:17:50 AM
It is you who have quoted 36:16 in your post. WE means WE all! Not only you! Do you know a little English?
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 11:21:22 AM
Read further, there are three messengers for that verse. Do you know the Quran?

When We sent them two and they denied them both, so We reinforced them with a third. They said, ´Truly We have been sent to you as Messengers.´ (36:14)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: TellMeTheTruth on February 04, 2019, 11:23:35 AM
 :eat: Waiting for answer to my question!
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 11:24:27 AM
You're stupid, and don't even know Jurisprudence or which school of thought that you belong, totally lost... and you even lie.

I have already answered your question.

Go to sleep!  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 04, 2019, 11:31:46 AM
SLM Mahdi Ibrahim,

i find your courage strong.. i would not say that even if i thought i am right ...
i need proof , no belief... every messenger are visited by angels to put them in duty ...  so if your not visited by higher beings , then sorry my friend your not


Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 11:34:12 AM
If you don't even know jurisprudence, how can it be proof for you?  :rotfl:


Our LordLaw (<- This is JURISPRUDENCE) proves that we are most surely Messengers. (36:16)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: TellMeTheTruth on February 04, 2019, 11:35:16 AM
Salam Kaltun!
He is not strong or courageous. Just a stubborn child. He is avoiding to answer my simple question,

May Allah bless and guide us all!
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 11:36:38 AM
I'm very open-minded and not stubborn, but it is fact and you're insisting on being stupid... go find basic idea about Jurisprudence, before you can understand what is the proof being presented for argument.   O0


Our LordLaw (<- This is JURISPRUDENCE) proves that we are most surely Messengers. (36:16)

This is JURISPRUDENCE...

Every nation has a Messenger and when their Messenger comes everything is decided between them justly [ = Ecological Jurisprudence/Justice vs Forced Justice/Jurisprudence/Dogma]. They are not wronged. They ask 'Muhammad', "When will this promise (of Final Rasul) be fulfilled?" (10:47-48 > 28:59 > 17:58 > 27:82 > 44:10-11 > 39:54)

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: TellMeTheTruth on February 04, 2019, 11:40:29 AM
Jurisprudence?
google it everyone!
Dictionary

Search for a word
jurisprudenceDictionary result for jurisprudence
/ˌdʒʊərɪsˈpruːd(ə)ns/Submit
noun
the theory or philosophy of law.
a legal system.
"American jurisprudence"

LOL! Answer my question and I will make you die again. Then you will understand what Dajjal is...

 :eat:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 11:41:48 AM
the theory or philosophy of law.

So what is LAW?

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What is your definition/philosophy of LordLAW!?  :elektro:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 11:46:23 AM
This is Matheism JURISPRUDENCE...

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now explain your system... your definition of LordLaw.

please prove your system for TRUTH...


Every nation has a Messenger and when their Messenger comes everything is decided between them justly [ = Ecological Jurisprudence/Justice vs Forced Justice/Jurisprudence/Dogma]. They are not wronged. They ask 'Muhammad', "When will this promise (of Final Rasul) be fulfilled?" (10:47-48 > 28:59 > 17:58 > 27:82 > 44:10-11 > 39:54)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: TellMeTheTruth on February 04, 2019, 11:48:11 AM
Your LordLaw or Law is a theory or philosophy and not a fact! So be dead again!
قُل لَّآ أَمْلِكُ لِنَفْسِى ضَرًّۭا وَلَا نَفْعًا إِلَّا مَا شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ ۗ لِكُلِّ أُمَّةٍ أَجَلٌ ۚ إِذَا جَآءَ أَجَلُهُمْ فَلَا يَسْتَـْٔخِرُونَ سَاعَةًۭ ۖ وَلَا يَسْتَقْدِمُونَ
010:049 Say: I have no power to hurt or benefit myself, save that which Allah willeth. For every nation there is an appointed time. When their time cometh, then they cannot put it off an hour, nor hasten (it).

Good night!
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 11:49:30 AM
keep on living your lies ..  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 11:51:42 AM
When their time cometh [FOR IMAM AL-MAHDI], then they cannot put it off an hour, nor hasten (it).

Planet Earth has reach "THE POINT OF NO RETURN/TAWBA"... so the time has come.

Your Lord would never destroy any cities 'with Climate Change' without first sending to the chief of them a RASUL رَسُولً (Imam al-Mahdi) to recite Our 'Tawba' Signs to them. (28:59)

There is no city We will not destroy before the Day of Rising, or punish with a terrible punishment. (17:58)

So be on the watch for a day when heaven brings forth a distinctive smoke (of Climate Change 1.5 °C), which enshrouds mankind/globally. ´This is a painful punishment! (44:10-11)

When the punishment has been fulfilled against them, We shall bring forth beastly brutes of 'artic Methane' from the Earth declaring that the people certainly do not believe in OUr 'Ecological' Signs. (27:82)

Turn in repentance to your Lord and submit to Him before punishment comes upon you, for then you cannot be helped (with Tawba anymore). (39:54)

When We decide to destroy a town, We command (Our Rasul to) those corrupted by wealth/ecological disorder [to reform], but they [persist in their] disobedience; Our sentence is passed, and We destroy them utterly. (17:16)

When the messengers lost all hope and realized that they had been dismissed as liars, Our help came to them: We saved whoever We pleased, but Our punishment will not be turned away from guilty people. (12:110)

On the day that one of your LordLaw's Signs does come, no iman which a self professes will be of any use to it if it did not have iman before and earn good in its iman. Say: "Wait, then; We too are waiting." (6:158)...

....

Imam al-Mahdi: "O my Lord! Truly my people took this Qur'an for just foolish nonsense." (25:30)


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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 12:00:08 PM
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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 12:02:32 PM
and Allah sends His Rasul so that they can ....

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...Thus the punishment is justified on them;  then We will destroy it completely. (17:16)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: TellMeTheTruth on February 04, 2019, 12:06:13 PM
قُلْ إِنْ أَدْرِىٓ أَقَرِيبٌۭ مَّا تُوعَدُونَ أَمْ يَجْعَلُ لَهُۥ رَبِّىٓ أَمَدًا
عَٰلِمُ ٱلْغَيْبِ فَلَا يُظْهِرُ عَلَىٰ غَيْبِهِۦٓ أَحَدًا
072:025 Say: I know not whether that which ye are promised is nigh, or if my Lord hath set a distant term for it.
072:026 (He is) the Knower of the Unseen, and He revealeth unto none His secret,

You are already dead - stinking, maggotty dead meat!
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 12:17:40 PM
You are delusional . ..  :rotfl:

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The foundation for insanity.

Some are insane and others are not, and that the difference is determined by NATURE and not by cultural forces, factors, forced justice or religion.

...

?The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. "Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives, that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does." They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.?

― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World Revisited


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usARgdrzPnA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi6qfDY3eUE

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 12:25:25 PM
So be on the watch for a day when heaven brings forth a distinctive smoke (of Climate Change 1.5 °C), which enshrouds mankind/globally. ´This is a painful punishment! (44:10-11)

(https://scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29496188_2074589849424262_1625524715829749660_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=c47f35a134086d5ae35548b1872f41aa&oe=5CF642AD)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 12:41:01 PM
There is no city We will not destroy BEFORE The Day Of Rising, Or punish with a terrible PUNISHMENT. (17.58)

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 04, 2019, 12:47:35 PM
Slm Mahdi Ibrahim,

little problem here , i think earth is not spherical ball what is spinning  :hmm
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 12:50:32 PM
Does it change the fact on global warming and Earth temperature? Animal extinctions? Natural resources depletions? Too bad, no.  >:D

When THE PUNISHMENT has been fulfilled against them, We will bring out for them a beastly brutes (of Methane) from the Earth evidencing men certainly do not believe Our Ecological Signs. (27:82) COMPLETED, for Final Stage

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It will come upon them suddenly, confounding them, taking them completely by surprise , and they will not be able to ward it off. They will be granted no reprieve. (21:40)

Allah would never destroy human habitation without FIRST SENDING A RASUL (رَسُولًا) to its centre, reciting our Sign to them. We would never destroy any cities unless their inhabitants are unjusts/ecological disorder.(28:59)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 01:02:08 PM
This will drive global warming even further!

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 01:04:40 PM
It will come upon them suddenly, confounding them, taking them completely by surprise , and they will not be able to ward it off. They will be granted no reprieve. (21:40)

If we continue emitting carbon at about 11 GtC per year, we could use up our carbon budget by 2025... 2°C by 2025!
.
1.5°C = Dangerous
2°C = Very Dangerous

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GAME OVER for the kafir of the Sunnatullah ( = Way of Allah = Allah) !  :rotfl:

Allah would never destroy human habitation without FIRST SENDING A RASUL (رَسُولًا) to its centre, reciting our Sign (for Tawba) to them. (28:59)

Mission Accomplished.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 02:05:41 PM
Lord said to the angels, "I am putting a Khalif/Environmental Steward on Earth," they (Iblees) said, "Why put on it one who will cause corruption on it and shed blood (reformers)!?" (2:30)

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How many planets would we need if everyone lived the lifestyle for the following citizens....

(https://gayogh.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/countries-with-biggest-ecological-footprint-_-graphics24.jpg?w=620)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hYrm3BXf80
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Cerberus on February 04, 2019, 02:41:56 PM
It'd be better if you can formulate your ideas in coherent and logical sentences so that anyone with a little bit of logic can follow up with your reasoning, if there is any. Preferably without using quranic verse (no appeal to authority) and specially not your own interpretation of quranic verses.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 04, 2019, 10:54:57 PM
TOPIC : Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? (open challenge to mankind+)

ISSUE: Our LordLaw proves that we are most surely Messengers. (36:16)
(burden of proof for Messengership)

DIRECT ARGUMENT: Law is the conditions of natural harmony for all species.

COUNTER-ARGUMENT? <-- STILL WAITING ... ... ... (11 pages) IF you do not do that, and you will not do it. Then fear the fire... (2:24)

REBUTTAL ARGUMENT (to be determined...)





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The formulation for Natural Law

11:17: Quran is the consistency/clear argument from:

1. Law of Nature (Sunnatullah) // Hear Nature, Obey Nature
2. Natural Person (Revelation) // no cherry picking
3. Natural Law (Tawbatan Nasoohan) // align our nature/argument with NATURE

vs. #strawman

Three elements and its consistency, this is not appeal to authority.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: quincy on February 11, 2019, 05:41:29 AM
Sorry to disappoint you, but the real Mahdi will be something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nW-IPrzM1g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nW-IPrzM1g)

Dont judge the book by its cover. The Mahdi will be another Moses/Muhammad. The destroyer of the wicked.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 11, 2019, 05:49:04 AM
Slm Abaddon,

nice music and clip.

but there will be no Mahdi or Messiah who will be back and will fight the anti-christ ( Quran doesnt support this orrrr.... is it ?)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: quincy on February 11, 2019, 06:04:21 AM
Slm Abaddon,

nice music and clip.

but there will be no Mahdi or Messiah who will be back and will fight the anti-christ ( Quran doesnt support this orrrr.... is it ?)

Wa alleikum as-salam, brother!

True, we shouldnt wait for a Saviour. We need to save ourselves. But still, the Bible supports a coming of the Mahdi. Read Revelation 9:11. Some call him the Antichrist some call him Christ who will not turn the other cheek but if you read what his purpose is, its obvious that he will be sent by GOD to punish the wicked.

"9 The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss. 2 When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss. 3 And out of the smoke locusts came down on the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. 4 They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5 They were not allowed to kill them but only to torture them for five months. And the agony they suffered was like that of the sting of a scorpion when it strikes. 6 During those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them.

7 The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces. 8 Their hair was like women?s hair, and their teeth were like lions? teeth. 9 They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle. 10 They had tails with stingers, like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months. 11 They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer)."

Revelation 9:1-11
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: quincy on February 11, 2019, 06:09:37 AM
He could also be the Hellsangel Malik in human form.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 11, 2019, 06:24:12 AM
Aslm Aboddon,

Quran is leading so , if its not mentioned in there , then it will not come

but indeed the clip you showed it was the same person of Revelation 9:1-11 ;)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: quincy on February 11, 2019, 06:32:25 AM
Im reading the Bible on the basis of the Qur'an. Because the Qur'an also motivates us to read the previous Scriptures. Of course the Bible is altered, but still if you read it on the basis of the Qur'an it is obvious what is altered and what is the Truth.

Here is another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV4oYkIeGJc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV4oYkIeGJc)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 11, 2019, 06:45:05 AM
SLm,

lol, this is from Genesis (i mean the band with phil colins ).

and see the upper comment :
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They loved this video so much they made it live-action.
:rotfl:
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Kanye west is illuminati 3years ago
Omg that made me laugh so hard

CallioNyx 1 year ago
Not laughing any more. :(
:rotfl:

btw the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHmH1xQ2Pf4




Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 11, 2019, 06:48:09 AM
Sorry to disappoint you, but the real Mahdi will be something like this:

that is wishful thinking.. the reality is:



Sorry to disappoint you, but the Messenger of Allah are those:


See how they coined similes for you. Thus they have gone astray and cannot find a way (to Heaven). (25:9) :police:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 11, 2019, 06:55:14 AM
Slm Mahdi Ibrahim,

can you show us with a verse from the Quran about your coming to warn people?
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 11, 2019, 06:59:48 AM
Your Lord would never destroy any cities 'with Climate Change' without first sending to the chief of them a RASUL رَسُولً (Imam al-Mahdi) to recite Our 'Tawba' Signs to them. (28:59)

Every nation has a Messenger and when their Messenger comes everything is decided between them justly [ = Ecological Jurisprudence/Justice vs Forced Justice/Jurisprudence/Dogma]. They are not wronged. They ask 'Muhammad', "When will this promise (of Final Rasul) be fulfilled?" (10:47-48 > 28:59 > 17:58 > 27:82 > 44:10-11 > 39:54)

There is no city We will not destroy before the Day of Rising, or punish with a terrible punishment. (17:58)

So be on the watch for a day when heaven brings forth a distinctive smoke (of Climate Change 1.5 °C), which enshrouds mankind/globally. ´This is a painful punishment! (44:10-11)

When the punishment has been fulfilled against them, We shall bring forth beastly brutes of 'artic Methane' from the Earth declaring that the people certainly do not believe in OUr 'Ecological' Signs. (27:82)

Turn in repentance to your Lord and submit to Him before punishment comes upon you, for then you cannot be helped (with Tawba anymore). (39:54)

When We decide to destroy a town, We command (Our Rasul to) those corrupted by wealth/ecological disorder [to reform], but they [persist in their] disobedience; Our sentence is passed, and We destroy them utterly. (17:16)

When the messengers lost all hope and realized that they had been dismissed as liars, Our help came to them: We saved whoever We pleased, but Our punishment will not be turned away from guilty people. (12:110)

On the day that one of your LordLaw's Signs does come, no iman which a self professes will be of any use to it if it did not have iman before and earn good in its iman. Say: "Wait, then; We too are waiting." (6:158)

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 11, 2019, 07:10:00 AM
Clear proof -> WHETHER

Point of NO RETURN/TAWBA =  1.5°C

Lower Estimate for 1.5°C = 2016
Middle Estimate for 1.5°C = 2018

Upper Estimate fpr 1.5°C= 2021

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39388132_2181164625433450_2087051533999931392_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=e8ce0d237c550de1b67d251f52501df9&oe=5CEEFDD3)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 11, 2019, 07:29:04 AM
Slm Mahdi Ibrahim,

you verses talking about cities not whole earth ?? but again (your qoute )

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There is no city We will not destroy before the Day of Rising, or punish with a terrible punishment. (17:58)
btw according to you we are in the era of tawba ? right ...
what is tawba

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When We decide to destroy a town, We command (Our Rasul to) those corrupted by wealth/ecological disorder [to reform], but they [persist in their] disobedience; Our sentence is passed, and We destroy them utterly. (17:16)
but with do all respect , we (forum visiters) have no power at all, how can we change if we want to , its impossible atm , you have to talk to the leaders  :sun:




Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: quincy on February 11, 2019, 07:33:00 AM
SLm,

lol, this is from Genesis (i mean the band with phil colins ).

and see the upper comment : :rotfl: :rotfl:

btw the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHmH1xQ2Pf4

lol  ;D yes i know that its not an original version but i still prefer the cover version  ;D
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 11, 2019, 07:43:59 AM
you verses talking about cities not whole earth ?? but again (your qoute )

whole earth..

"no city We will not destroy"

btw according to you we are in the era of tawba ? right ...
what is tawba

for Earth, already passed the point of no return... no matter what you do, you cannot stop it from destruction...

The research also shows the deadline to limit warming to 1.5°C has already passed...
https://www.egu.eu/news/428/deadline-for-climate-action-act-strongly-before-2035-to-keep-warming-below-2c/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/climate-change-global-warming-point-no-return-floods-a8515431.html


for us, to completely surrender to LordLaw of Nature and jihad for ecological justice...


[/b]but with do all respect , we (forum visiters) have no power at all, how can we change if we want to , its impossible atm , you have to talk to the leaders  :sun:

no problem, not saving anyone but myself..

and so that the punishment is justified against mankind...

that's the purpose.

Some of them asked, ?Why do you give advice to people who Allah will destroy or punish with a severe suffering?? They answered, In order to be free from blame before your LordLaw (of Nature).... (7:164)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21D3ByfPTx8

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19424024_1948474465369135_8419461198100971514_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=96520fdcf945bbabdf684166a3cd1229&oe=5CD92F2A)

(https://files.constantcontact.com/916dfa07101/5855ddbb-2fd5-4365-89ac-dac9f7be79ac.jpg)

World War III

The promise of my Lord is truth." And We left them till that day to surge like waves on one another. And the horn was blown so We gathered them together. And We displayed Hell on that Day to the disbelievers openly. (18:99-100)

Death of this planet
New planet emerge.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 11, 2019, 08:36:35 AM
Slm MI,

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no problem, not saving anyone but myself..


and how can i save myself ??
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 11, 2019, 08:54:10 AM
Two things...

Lord called out to them, "Did I not forbid you this tree and say to you, "[Human] Shaytan is an outright enemy to you"?" (7:22)


THE KEY:

You never find people/muslims who have iman in Allah/Sunnatullah and the Last Day/of Cause & Effect on friendly terms with anyone who opposes/bystanding Allah/Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature and His Messenger/Natural Person/Natural Law, though they be their fathers, their sons, their brothers or their clan. Allah has inscribed iman upon such people´s hearts and will reinforce them with a Ruh from Him and admit them into Gardens with rivers flowing under them, remaining in them timelessly, for ever. Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. [ONLY] Such people are the party of Allah. Truly it is the party of Allah who are successful. (58:22)

"make clear distinction" with the unnaturalist....

ELSE: I swear I shall fill Hell with you and all who follow you! (7:18)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: quincy on February 11, 2019, 08:56:42 AM
Slm MI,
 

and how can i save myself ??

You shoukdnt ask this confused individual of something like this. Complete submission to ALLAH will save you, brother. Pray to Him, to the Lord most high! And ask him for essential and spiritual strength. If it comes from your heart your prayers will be answered! God willing.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 11, 2019, 08:59:41 AM
So my Islam is like...

The People of Ibrahim

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37312703_2149412705275309_4517885491755876352_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=4e828210c87ae9f5957c612c0be22027&oe=5CEA32DF)

You have an excellent example in Ibrahim and those with him, when they said to their people, "We wash our hands of you and all that you serve apart from Allah/Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature/EcoLogic, and we reject you. Between us and you there will be enmity and hatred for ever unless and until you have iman in Allah/Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature/EcoLogic ALONE." (60:4)  :rotfl:


Human Shaytan is your enemy so treat him as an enemy. (35:6)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 11, 2019, 09:06:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfQB4NDvb4

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30715989_2087159101500670_4379632500799502420_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=5a0e7869db2c5b8cf32064526ec5c5a9&oe=5CED9EE3)

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28577557_2065045623712018_6732528965209644055_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=d2621f7eb8000a3ccfa51e2d7ccc2cc3&oe=5CE2DF10)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 11, 2019, 09:11:33 AM
You shoukdnt ask this confused individual of something like this. Complete submission to ALLAH will save you, brother. Pray to Him, to the Lord most high! And ask him for essential and spiritual strength. If it comes from your heart your prayers will be answered! God willing.

Slm Aboddon,

my prayers is for Allah Only, i ask help from Allah only , i ask Guidence from Allah only , i ask strength from Allah only ....

i was just curious how the salvation of mahdi Ibrahim was ;)

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 11, 2019, 09:29:01 AM
Our Salvation .. no fear.

so we're Fight Club and live our lives to get beaten, as always.. no fear at all.  :rotfl:

?We have no Great War.
No Great Depression.
Our Great War's a spiritual war?
our Great Depression is our lives.?

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30629739_2084558398427407_913506807008493177_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=9c2901e0efd59fcaa740eb273650f751&oe=5CF39479)

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 11, 2019, 09:35:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfQB4NDvb4

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27971697_2057858557764058_8350622002424019481_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=bd9cbbc4508e758c692bae4c19902e6a&oe=5CEA0C31)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 11, 2019, 09:41:03 AM
Pray to Him, to the Lord most high! And ask him for essential and spiritual strength. If it comes from your heart your prayers will be answered! God willing.

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30531074_2084312615118652_5735202800481131138_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=1b27a649382631527879a524668490b9&oe=5CE48CF9)

Again and again will those who disbelieve wish that they had been Muslims. Leave them to eat and enjoy, and let them be preoccupied with WISHFUL THINKING. They will come to know. (15:2-3)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 11, 2019, 09:59:06 AM
Quranic..

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40374947_2191335781083001_7246919471254732800_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=529c2ac949e15b3c9d2c18da04dfc6b1&oe=5D017895)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 11, 2019, 10:02:24 AM
(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39408350_2181534718729774_8744652662760275968_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=dad8e69518a5426b34502981fb3ffec9&oe=5CDE272B)

Again and again will those who disbelieve wish that they had been Muslims. Leave them to eat and enjoy, and let them be preoccupied with WISHFUL THINKING. They will come to know. (15:2-3)

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39061430_2175348856015027_2824102986106535936_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=ff5d3b75021cb60f5bf3f569802ed105&oe=5CF09C5B)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 11, 2019, 11:22:22 AM
(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51743223_2286727344877177_5902330807636197376_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=e961c449d4a8eb3a35ae3898b6d32374&oe=5CFDD587)

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52120306_2286735424876369_3212635932544991232_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=213e3f586c87b3dbc557709f7f1c9959&oe=5CFE2878)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 11, 2019, 02:24:41 PM
Pollution has appeared on land and at sea because of what man´s hands have accomplished/ecological disorder, so he may let them taste something of what they have earned, in order that they will turn back. (30:41)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/xUPGcqx4frBEM3C3Li/giphy.gif)


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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 11, 2019, 10:27:28 PM
DEAR messenger with small (m) can u tell us earth is round or flat ?  :rotfl:

(Al - Messenger) make it proper noun for this u need atleast  a bit fan following now a days social media helps in achieving it,
 in past times it was quite hard to preach with the risk of life and death  plantey of them lost their lives in field.

technology is a blessing.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 03:22:39 AM
I believe both sides have no conclusive evidence to say it is flat or round, due to so many restrictions in life etc. Let just say, "I don't know".. that is wisdom and proof of Messengership.  :laugh:

Scientists vote that the Earth is flat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uJwQX_MLLo
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 12, 2019, 04:12:24 AM
oh freaking hell mate  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

messenger dnt know hahahaha nothing.

messenger knows about the nature  of God ie energy but enable to tell shape of earth.

ur messengership is on heavy/high/extreme risk.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 04:17:04 AM
You're obviously confused...  :rotfl:


Say, This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences! (12:103)

that is wisdom and proof of Messengership. :laugh:

Why say/argue/believe in something you cannot prove? lol  :brickwall:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 05:00:59 AM
>>Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? <<

Imam = Founder
Al = The
Mahdist = Matheist
Mahdism = Matheism


so it is impossible...  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 12, 2019, 05:08:05 AM
i asked from messenger something whats causing us a confusion ie shape of earth and flat earthers are saying quran claim earth is flat.

now u r representing urself as messneger so why not solve this issue in hand ?
what evidence u need  do u want me to book a trip to ISS for your own satisfaction?

Question 1 did quran stated earth = flat ?
Question 2 why you dnt know about what u should know?

if u are teaching math student ask a question about algebra and u saying u dnt know the answer , thats not how math work my love.

less perosnal attack more productive talk (mr messenger)


Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 05:10:17 AM
Question 1 did quran stated earth = flat ?

It says nothing about flat earth...



Question 2 why you dnt know about what u should know?

and where did the Quran say "the Messenger" must prove everything on Earth / Universe?

What verse?
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 12, 2019, 05:38:06 AM
It says nothing about flat earth...



and where did the Quran say "the Messenger" must prove everything on Earth / Universe?

What verse?

ok if u say its nothing about the shape of earth is mentioned in quran then 2nd question not apply on you.
now we have a third theory on table.(by you)
anyway what u think about the shape of earth ?

so results are three ?theories? based on quran( round,flat/ nothing)
whereas science dnt have any theory at all. science have one proven FACT  :hmm

otherwise messengers backup their cases if go aganist the nature.
example if messenger stop people from stealing/robbing.

and bukhari and company teach you how to rob you must ask from God whats the rules of theft oh God people are asking from me ? plz tell me do i have to chop the hands of thief ?

and messneger say i dunt know hahahahaha.

which verse is saying messnger dunt know his message ? ( passed it to you)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 05:57:43 AM

anyway what u think about the shape of earth ?

No guesswork, can you sponsor me to space?  :rotfl:


plz tell me do i have to chop the hands of thief ?

no such thing from the Quran...



and messneger say i dunt know hahahahaha.

which verse is saying messnger dunt know his message ? ( passed it to you)

are you blind? I said the "QURAN SAYS NOTHING ABOUT FLAT EARTH"

so you must first show me the verse to prove Allah says the Earth is flat. ...  :brickwall:

what verse?
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 06:15:16 AM
WISDOM is ....

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/c5/00/aec500dd5a0e75f83e4bdacff63b3d14.jpg)

No guesswork.

The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. ~ Stephen Hawking

Therefore, proof of Messengership.  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 12, 2019, 06:15:57 AM
Slm Mahdi Ibrahim,

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so you must first show me the verse to prove Allah says the Earth is flat. ...  :brickwall:

he is saying earth is not FLAT ....

you can better ask to show verse abouth spinning spherical earth  >:D
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 06:18:30 AM
already said, but he's being proud and over confident even without proof... guess what?  :rotfl:

I believe both sides have no conclusive evidence to say it is flat or round, due to so many restrictions in life etc. Let just say, "I don't know".. that is wisdom and proof of Messengership.  :laugh:

Scientists vote that the Earth is flat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uJwQX_MLLo
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 12, 2019, 06:22:26 AM

are you blind? I said the "QURAN SAYS NOTHING ABOUT FLAT EARTH"

so you must first show me the verse to prove Allah says the Earth is flat. ...  :brickwall:

what verse?

ok i have to explain u first.
when u said quran said nothing about flat earth then i said second question did not apply now becoz we will only ask whats already in the scripture. right

first section finished here.

second part

u said its not necessary that messenger prove everything to us lol ok i agree.
but what i asked is if there is a message what need to deleivered by messenger can he say i dont know my message ? ( incase if you think quran didnt  talk about flat earth then we already have ur answer hence second part not apply to you )

third step before you go to third step now you see who is ?BLIND? lol dunt worry about it u r not blinder but a blunder lmao.

ok third step out of curiousty if a person ask from messenger what is the shape of earth? messengers never say to give money or to sponsor them,

messnegers are not FREE loaders hahaha.

i ll show you how messenger tackle that problem they contact with their God,

u need to contact energy what created the shape of earth so then tell us,

BTW u dnt need to go to space for what i m asking.
oh ya messneger your grace but your ignorance as well.  :elektro:

NOTE i will not repeat my questions i hate that thing always.
but i have to do it in the end always.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 06:31:44 AM
ok i have to explain u first.
when u said quran said nothing about flat earth then i said second question did not apply now becoz we will only ask whats already in the scripture. right

first section finished here.

exactly..



second part

u said its not necessary that messenger prove everything to us lol ok i agree.
but what i asked is if there is a message what need to deleivered by messenger can he say i dunt know my message ? ( incase if you think quran sidnt talk about flat earth then we already have ur answr hence second part not apply to you )

I only need to deliver two things:

Lord called to them: "Did I not forbid you from that tree, and tell you that the devil is your clear enemy" (7:22)


What else?  I have to figure out how many planets in this whole universe? :rotfl:


ok third step out of curiousty if a person ask from messenger what is the shape of earth? messengers never say to give money or to sponsor them,

messnegers are not FREE loaders hahaha.

i ll you how messenger tackle that problem they contact with their God,

u need to contact energy what created the shape of earth so then tell us,

BTW u dnt need to go to space for what i m asking.
oh ya messneger your grace but your ignorance as well.  :elektro:

Why bother? You think Allah sent Messengers to be the Encyclopedia? 

Allah does not burden any soul (to count the planets and travel to space, knows everything is this universe etc) with more than it can bear. (2:286)

They will ask you about the Hour: when is it due? Say: ´Knowledge of it rests with my Lord alone. He alone will reveal it at its proper time [ie. I DON'T KNOW]. (7:187)


special kind of stupid.. aren't you? :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 12, 2019, 06:32:59 AM
Slm Mahdi Ibrahim,

he is saying earth is not FLAT ....

you can better ask to show verse abouth spinning spherical earth  >:D

already said, but he's being proud and over confident even without proof... guess what?  :rotfl:

square of stupids = ( stupids)2

@ kaltun first i was thinking i explain u his post and then i explain u your own post then explain u whats going on then after all this in the next post u bring more stupidity then i will continue it. for what .?

becoz my only purpose is to share my knowledge without cost at this place ?
i will not say u to sponser me like our messenger said.
i will not say i will not answer u.

but spoonfeeding is not my job.


Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 12, 2019, 06:44:11 AM


Do not cut down the trees

Human shaytan is your enemy, so kick their ass! [/li][/list]






What else?  I have to figure out how many planets in this whole universe? :rotfl:


Allah does not burden any soul (to count the planets and travel to space etc) with more than it can bear. (2:286)


hmm so u r the messneger who is warning people not to cut the trees,

well u dnt need to do it thats why let the scientist and experts find about it. and they already share their findings. thats what i m saying.

as u already claimed about your ignorance so wr have a new title for Your highness.

IGNORANT messneger
UNAWARE messenger
Lack f knowledge messenger

chose any of them i know u cant contradict urself now u already said  u r ignorant and lacking of knowledge lot of things hahahaha :voodoo:

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 06:47:32 AM
What is the problem with saying "I DON'T KNOW"?

They will ask you about the Hour: when is it due? Say: ´Knowledge of it rests with my Lord alone. He alone will reveal it at its proper time [ie. I DON'T KNOW]. (7:187)

So how does it is inconsistent with the Quran and proof of Messengership?
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 12, 2019, 06:48:43 AM
What is the problem with saying "I DON'T KNOW"?

They will ask you about the Hour: when is it due? Say: ´Knowledge of it rests with my Lord alone. He alone will reveal it at its proper time [ie. I DON'T KNOW]. (7:187)

So how is it consistent with the Quran?

exactly u dnt know becoz u r not a messenger?

ok i give u a favor let say u dunt know but its time to know now,

ask from God that people are asking me about shape tell me plz my lord?

or request God to send gabi towards you who came to messengers may b he bring a map for you. try it once

otherwise i have another new title waiting for you.
take one day and see what u get from your energy?

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 06:50:58 AM
right?  :rotfl:

(https://i.imgur.com/4Yymus8.jpg)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 12, 2019, 06:57:12 AM
right?  :rotfl:

(https://i.imgur.com/4Yymus8.jpg)

thats best described about you with touch of adding

special IGNORANT, TRICKSTER, FOOLISH,
IMPOSTER
etc
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 07:51:11 AM
that apply to all the messengers in the Quran?

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0MYyp3Ms7viHLp1C/giphy.gif)

We never sent any Messengers before you who did not eat food and walk in the market-place. (25:20)

They will ask you about the Hour: when is it due? Say: ´Knowledge of it rests with my Lord alone. He alone will reveal it at its proper time [ie. I DON'T KNOW]. (7:187)

Say: "I do not know whether what you are promised is close or whether my Lord will appoint a longer time before it." (72:25)

Say: "I do not say to you that I possess the treasuries of Allah, nor do I know the Unseen (without proofs and evidences), nor do I say to you that I am an angel. I only follow what has been revealed/Quran to me." (6:50)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 07:55:44 AM
hmm so u r the messneger who is warning people not to cut the trees,

Exactly! Allah put that trees in our chests... it is our flag!  :laugh:
(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20953199_1977024589180789_4225109129262161841_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=6b9588cc2d9d7a0993f97a0cc2947712&oe=5CFD70A3)

Lose yourself completely, return to the root of the root of your own soul.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 10:01:20 AM
That is because their Messengers brought them The Clear Signs but they said, "Are human beings going to guide us?" So they were kafir and turned away. Allah has no need of such people; Allah is self-sufficient and worthy of all praise.(64:6)

On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (50:30)

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29683356_2081019182114662_8925092105258408136_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=3b661e12c9691338741f579d77d199cd&oe=5CE48CD3)

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20622304_1979330295616885_8178327393641472422_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=b41afd43c8bea70af3aa65f7f07d2d31&oe=5CE6F9CA)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 12, 2019, 02:19:00 PM
summary of what  i ask?

oh muhammad people ask you about DNA ?
muhammad and people dont know about it becoz never mention in the message of scripture.( i agree)

oh muhammad people ask you about earth ,sun, moon, sirius ?
you have to tell them what they are what they believed about these celestial objects. ie

before quran it was beleived sun moon and sirius are gods.
earth is on shell of tortise.
earth is flat.
mountains are foundations for sky.
rain fell becoz angels cry ?


in reply of those things the author of quran bring a new way of introducing things what we are still working on it 20% things what science unable to crack it yet.but let see what we cracked.

LORD of sirius

Lord of sun moon and stars everythings is fixed by perfect calculation. which of the marvels u deny? ( where ur math gone here in this calculation) ?

dnt you see we created heavens without pillars ? ? ?   :yes :yes sky with doom theory :voodoo: by quran.

dnt you see we sent down rain from sky ( water cycle  plantey of times )

dnt u see the expansion of space and its ?we ?who are resposnisbe for expanding ( show my long middle finger to ones who are asking me for red pills) or who are asking motion of earth is absent in quran.

DNT you see anything oh you BLIND retarded messenger.

its just a trailor of what original messenger recieved and explain about the ongoing myths of cosmos.

upon asking messeneger again and again and again he show lack of knowledge/care and lack of manners which proved him DAJJAL
hahahaha

but even as a dajjal u r a weak stupid fake dajjal,

you didnt qualify for a messneger or even as a saint or more less sufi but u qualified as dajjal( imposter/dishonest/unaware/ignorant).

humana shaytan u are  >:D haply i have finally given u a title as per my mind u must b very proud of it isnt it ?

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 12, 2019, 02:40:07 PM
oh mr dajjal dunt you worry about cutting trees becoz when u died we will not burry you but we will put you on plantey of woods from TREEs and then we will burn ur **** hahaha and then finally  we wash ur (asthia) ashes/shit  in ganga where u can purely go back to the origin of human being hahahaha ie water and dust.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 03:09:25 PM
I already said Allah mention nothing that the Earth is flat..

that is my argument.

and did I ask you what verse that Allah says the Earth is flat?

where is that verse?

oh muhammad people ask you about DNA ?
muhammad and people dont know about it becoz never mention in the message of scripture.( i agree)

oh muhammad people ask you about earth ,sun, moon, sirius ?
you have to tell them what they are what they believed about these celestial objects. ie


you must be retard :rotfl:

do you undertand these ayats?
Say, This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences! (12:103)
Say: "I do not know whether what you are promised is close or whether my Lord will appoint a longer time before it." (72:25)

Say: "I do not say to you that I possess the treasuries of Allah, nor do I know the Unseen (without proofs and evidences), nor do I say to you that I am an angel. I only follow what has been revealed/Quran to me." (6:50)


so tell them about what?

Tell lies in the name of Allah, and when Allah said nothing at all about flat earth!?  :brickwall:


further, how does shape of the Earth related to "do not cut down the trees" and "human shaytan is your clear enemy".. how does it relate to debt/wage slavery? how does it relate to  jurisprudence, logic, ecological order? how can it stop climate change and the sixth mass extinctions? how can it stop depletion of natural resources? how can it stop cronyism? how can you used for equal wealth distribution? can it feed and save your family? how can it cure your insanity? bla bla bla...  see how stupid are your issues?  you are delusional, why not prove Pokémon and Doraemon are real!!?  ... :rotfl:

(https://i.imgur.com/4Yymus8.jpg)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 12, 2019, 03:23:27 PM
You are saying EARTH and its basic details are absent in quran.

 you are LIAR/retard/imposter/ignorant/insane/majnu and lot more. all dajjal qualities. look u force me to say u things what i dunt like saying to anyone. i warned u few days ago about ur wording oh u ignorant mesenger ut u didnt listen like stubborn kid and now i m praising the messenger.

another thing ?add? you are the one who is opressor/trouble maker of the land and you disjoin the things what need to join ( dnt u read this in quran ) lol.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 03:29:48 PM
Do you have any verse to support your argument or you're too stupid to understand what being said?  :rotfl:

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 12, 2019, 03:48:02 PM
SLM boys,

can we not attack each other , we are here to find the truth ...
everyone has his opinion even we have clear book .....

say peace and shake each others hand  :handshake:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 03:52:23 PM
Let just see him bring the verse and prove all messengers are prohibited from saying "I don't know" ... any?  :rotfl:


Say: "I do not say to you that I possess the treasuries of Allah, nor do I know the Unseen (without proofs and evidences), nor do I say to you that I am an angel. I only follow what has been revealed/Quran to me." (6:50)

But even the angel said:

Angel: Glory be to You! We have no knowledge except what You have taught us. (2:33)

(https://i.imgflip.com/13qzus.jpg)

THE UNLETTERED

Therefore, proof of Messengership.

Taught man what he did not know. (96:5)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: quincy on February 12, 2019, 04:08:09 PM
The only true wisdom is to detect paradoxes.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 04:17:36 PM
"detect" must come with "reason + evidence"

argument: claim + reason + evidence <- status
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: quincy on February 12, 2019, 04:22:46 PM
IT'S TIME TO STOP! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 04:24:45 PM
another example of "forced justice", it's time to face your F.E.A.R.

False
Evidence
Appearing
Real

(mental slavery <--- "knowing too much" nonsense... opinion)

Dare to live as a human being? (vs. cattle)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 04:31:11 PM
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
None but ourselves can free our mind.


ie. I DON'T KNOW (THE UNLETTERED) -> SURRENDER = I DON'T KNOW

Ibrahim was
  • neither a Jew (creature of Book of Grammar/Tradition) = mental slavery[/size]
  • nor a Christian (creature of emotion) = mental slavery[/size]
  • but he was an upright Muslim (creature of ecoLOGIC // UNLETTERED) = FREEDOM
  • He was not one of the idolaters (creature of popularity) = mental slavery[/size]
(3:67)

I don't want to be good anymore, I want to be right/straight path.  :laugh:



Bob Marley – Redemption Song Lyrics
from album: Uprising (1980)
Old pirates, yes, they rob I;
Sold I to the merchant ships,
Minutes after they took I
From the bottomless pit.

But my hand was made strong
By the 'and of the Almighty.
We forward in this generation
Triumphantly.
Won't you help to sing
This songs of freedom
'Cause all I ever have:
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs.

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery; <- THE UNLETTERED
None but ourselves can free our minds.
<- THE UNLETTERED
Have no fear for atomic energy, <- creature of emotion
'Cause none of them can stop the time. <- THE UNLETTERED
How long shall they kill our prophets,  <- THE UNLETTERED
While we stand aside and look? Ooh! <- mental slavery / MENTAL DEATH 12:105
Some say it's just a part of it:
We've got to fullfil the book. <- creature of Book of Grammar/Tradition; 68:35-37

Won't you help to sing <- THE UNLETTERED
This songs of freedom- <- THE UNLETTERED
'Cause all I ever have: <- THE UNLETTERED

Redemption songs;
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs.
---
/Guitar break/
---
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
None but ourselves can free our mind.
Wo! Have no fear for atomic energy,
'Cause none of them-a can-a stop-a the time.
How long shall they kill our prophets,
While we stand aside and look?
Yes, some say it's just a part of it:
We've got to fullfil the book.
Won't you have to sing
This songs of freedom? -
'Cause all I ever had:
Redemption songs -
All I ever had:
Redemption songs:
These songs of freedom,
Songs of freedom.



sorry, but you build your own prison...
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 04:35:32 PM
you build your own prison...

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45882061_2229641657252413_3010512160255115264_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=44ddd8dbbc92f88f3720efa42e3e0f52&oe=5CDE3A83)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 04:44:16 PM
(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51580560_2280306078852637_4713762362962739200_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=2ff5d1aed18dccb0c6b6292601274a4c&oe=5CF05370)

delusional:  characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy from reality.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 04:51:54 PM
(https://allstaractivist.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/cogdig1.png)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 04:55:01 PM
People of The Book
(too much illusion of knowledge)
(https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*cbb6_xuOUTrMH362tJNPkQ.png)

only those who dare, TRULY LIVE.  :rotfl:

(https://metricpioneer.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/2-denial.jpg)

We created many of the jinn and mankind for Hell. They have hearts they do not (DENIAL/REJECTER) understand with. They have eyes they do not (DENIAL/REJECTER) see with. They have ears they do not (DENIAL/REJECTER) hear with. Such people are like cattle. No, they are even further astray! They are the unaware. (7:179)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: jkhan on February 12, 2019, 06:14:08 PM
you build your own prison...

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45882061_2229641657252413_3010512160255115264_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=44ddd8dbbc92f88f3720efa42e3e0f52&oe=5CDE3A83)
I like the way Buddha looks...
Both are not passing any knowledge to anyone, but mere arrogance.... Mahdi can break record... Soon he will be burnout with 20000 post.... :rotfl: :yay:l.. Spam after spam.. Why moderators have kept such ranking.. No idea...
BTW.. Mahdi you don't know the shape of earth... It means
1) you don't accept science which has proved as they say world is sphere and spinning... .. So one way or other you deny them since you don't have proof to verify..
2) you don't believe that earth is stationary coz you don't have knowledge... You don't have knowledge in that means you have not researched...  But at least you can feel that earth is not moving...  Or when you fly earth is stationary... Lol... Why not use basic physic of water keeps it's level... Or you don't care about the shape of the place you are living... OR IF YOU ACCEPT ONE OR THE OTHER YOI WILL BE EXPOSED IF PROVED OTHERWISE TO WHAT YOU CHOSE... choose one.. May be luck is with you...  :rotfl:
Dude coz God says " don't you believe in Him, who created seven heavens one above the other and the Earth and whatever between them.. "
So to believe in Him at least you should know what he created.... If you reject both stationary and sphere spinning...then you blindly believe  Him...
I know I won't get a proper reply and you will post lots spams... That will help u to become a burned out.. Anyhiw messenger has to be a burned out one... So no harm😉
Anyway it was a nice entertainment reading MI and IK... Both must be tired now... Is entertaining a type of guidance..  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 06:49:38 PM
still with empty claims...

I believe both sides have no conclusive evidence to say it is flat or round, due to so many restrictions in life etc. Let just say, "I don't know".. that is wisdom and proof of Messengership.  :laugh:

Scientists vote that the Earth is flat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uJwQX_MLLo

The Sun is 93 000 000 Miles Away?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYJJ3YrHa-s
Earth rotation at almost 2,000 miles per hour?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO--SrdSzyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBoGzSML_6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAIbfM_exb4

and what verse says it is round/flat?

and how good is your evidence?
relevancy of evidence?
standard of evidence?
weight of evidence?
corroborative evidence?
source of information?
consistency of interpretation?

can you prove consistency from all the above? soundness?

(but when they lose an argument, and fail to support with verses from the Quran or give scientific evidence etc)

(https://www.hebrew4christians.com/Clear_Thinking/Informal_Fallacies/Ad_Hominem/againsttheperson.gif)

already said, but he's being proud and over confident even without proof... guess what? 

You're obviously confused... 

  • It is not what you know (mutasyaabihat)
  • It is about what you can prove (muhkamat)

Say, This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences! (12:103)

Why say/argue/believe in something you cannot prove? lol
:brickwall:

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.  ~ Albert Einstein

(https://image.slidesharecdn.com/201402wpathtranskidse-140225170357-phpapp02/95/methodological-questions-in-childhood-gender-identity-desistence-research-12-638.jpg?cb=1393351373)

*i make no claim*

you can't fix stupid, and stupid can't fix themselves...  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: jkhan on February 12, 2019, 08:17:58 PM
still with empty claims...
The Sun is 93 000 000 Miles Away?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYJJ3YrHa-s
Earth rotation at almost 2,000 miles per hour?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO--SrdSzyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBoGzSML_6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAIbfM_exb4

and what verse says it is round/flat?

and how good is your evidence?
relevancy of evidence?
standard of evidence?
weight of evidence?
corroborative evidence?
source of information?
consistency of interpretation?

can you prove consistency from all the above? soundness?

(https://image.slidesharecdn.com/201402wpathtranskidse-140225170357-phpapp02/95/methodological-questions-in-childhood-gender-identity-desistence-research-12-638.jpg?cb=1393351373)

*i make no claim*

you can't fix stupid, and stupid can't fix themselves...  :rotfl:

Peace MI
Good point by saying both sides have NO EVIDENCE...So to say that you must have researched the both sides unless you can't conclude that also... right?

ponder of this verse.. 03:191 "Men who celebrate/commemorate the praises of Allah, standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides, and contemplate the (wonders of) creation in the heavens and the earth, (With the thought): "Our Lord! not for naught Hast Thou created (all) this! Glory to Thee! Give us salvation from the penalty of the Fire"

May be they knew what God created to celebrate and to say God not created this in vain...

55:33 O company of jinn and men, if ye have power to penetrate (all) regions of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate (them)! Ye will never penetrate them save with (Our) sanction.

What you think of the verse 55:33... Since you claim as a messenger, you don't need to know everything.... that's so obvious though IK failed to grasp it...but as a messenger you can't say I don't understand Quran... Right... Yes or No? So pls explain what you get by verse 55:33... i won't force you... but just explain your understanding...that's enough.. i won't mock.. i promise you..

At least i wish you bring all the earth and heaven verses and explain these are the meaning of them, coz you should not be able to understand quran.. You can't say .. I don't know for this.. i guess, unless otherwise you speak...
so when you explain, let the people know, what is the shape of the earth.. fair question to ask from a messenger.. right?
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 08:21:19 PM
Where does it say flat / round?

Where does it infer "about the shape" being flat / round?

Which part from those verses support your theory?

Show me!

I already said Allah mention nothing that the Earth is flat.. (/round)

that is my argument.

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 08:38:43 PM
At least i wish you bring all the earth and heaven verses and explain these are the meaning of them, coz you should not be able to understand quran.. You can't say .. I don't know for this.. i guess, unless otherwise you speak...
so when you explain, let the people know, what is the shape of the earth.. fair question to ask from a messenger.. right?


already answered...

do you undertand these ayats?
Quote from: Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 04:17:04 AM
Say, This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences! (12:103)
Quote from: Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 07:51:11 AM
Say: "I do not know whether what you are promised is close or whether my Lord will appoint a longer time before it." (72:25)

Say: "I do not say to you that I possess the treasuries of Allah, nor do I know the Unseen (without proofs and evidences), nor do I say to you that I am an angel. I only follow what has been revealed/Quran to me." (6:50)

so tell them about what?

Tell lies in the name of Allah, and when Allah said nothing at all about flat earth!?   :brickwall:

And had he attributed anything falsely to Us. We would have seized him by the right. Then, We would have severed his life-line. None of you would be able to prevent it. And this is a reminder for the righteous. And We know that some of you are deniers. (69:44-49)


You who have iman! do not ask about matters which, if they were made known to you, would make things difficult for you. If you do ask about them when the Qur´an is being sent down, they will be made known to you. Allah has ignored them. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, All-Forbearing. (5:101)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: jkhan on February 12, 2019, 08:47:06 PM
Where does it say flat / round?

Where does it infer "about the shape" being flat / round?

Which part from those verses support your theory?

Show me!

This is what called straw man's argument... anyway.. i didnt say here FLAT...did i use that word to you specifically...NO..
I said Stationary...
At least find out the earth you are living is STATIONARY OR MOVING? :handshake: :laugh:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: jkhan on February 12, 2019, 08:48:56 PM
already answered...

You who have iman! do not ask about matters which, if they were made known to you, would make things difficult for you. If you do ask about them when the Qur´an is being sent down, they will be made known to you. Allah has ignored them. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, All-Forbearing. (5:101)
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Now you made me laugh... Knowing where i live will make my life difficult?  :rotfl:
Thats the joke of the century.. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 08:51:39 PM
This is what called straw man's argument... anyway.. i didnt say here FLAT...did i use that word to you specifically...NO..
I said Stationary...
At least find out the earth you are living is STATIONARY OR MOVING? :handshake: :laugh:

everything is moving.. .how can you prove "the movement" means it is "flat/round earth"?
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 08:55:16 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Now you made me laugh... Knowing where i live will make my life difficult?  :rotfl:
Thats the joke of the century.. :rotfl: :rotfl:

What's so funny about it?

The definition of stupid people

You who have iman! do not ask about matters which, if they were made known to you, would make things difficult for you. If you do ask about them when the Qur´an is being sent down, they will be made known to you. Allah has ignored them. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, All-Forbearing. (5:101)

2:67 And when Musa said to his people, ´Allah commands you to sacrifice a cow,´

they said, ´What! Are you making a mockery of us?´  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

He said, ´I seek refuge with Allah from being one of the ignorant!´

2:68 They said, ´Ask your Lord to make it clear to us what it should be like.´ He said, ´He says it should be a cow, not old or virgin, but somewhere between the two. So do as you have been told.´

2:69 They said, ´Ask your Lord to make it clear to us what colour it should be.´ He said, ´He says it should be a red cow, the colour of sorrel, a pleasure to all who look.´

2:70 They said, ´Ask your Lord to make it clear to us what it should be like. Cows are all much the same to us. Then, if Allah wills, we will be guided.´

2:71 He said, ´He says it should be a cow not trained to plough or irrigate the fields — completely sound, without a blemish on it.´

They said, ´Now you have brought the truth.´ So they sacrificed it — but they almost did not do it.


(but when they lose an argument, and fail to support with verses from the Quran or give scientific evidence etc)

(https://www.hebrew4christians.com/Clear_Thinking/Informal_Fallacies/Ad_Hominem/againsttheperson.gif)

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 09:05:16 PM
They have lied about that which they did not have knowledge of, nor has its explanation come to them. It is also how those before them denied, so see how was the retribution of the wicked! (10:39)

(https://scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17353136_1898177080398874_8207623571579917947_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=e84b25513645d6980abe08fe5c514df4&oe=5D000C7E)

We hear
We obey
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 09:19:55 PM
(https://scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19598806_1954060404810541_7198812377639760753_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=371d5652560c7537509001ab2f8a8418&oe=5CF98C59)

Therefore, clear proof for a Messenger. :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: jkhan on February 12, 2019, 09:33:45 PM
(https://scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19598806_1954060404810541_7198812377639760753_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=371d5652560c7537509001ab2f8a8418&oe=5CF98C59)

Therefore, clear proof for a Messenger. :rotfl:

Any way no point asking from you when you don't have knowledge of the heavens and earth.... your mission is to stop cutting trees ... so look after it..

59:5 "Whatever palm-trees you cut down, or left standing upon their roots/stem, that was by God's leave(will), and that He might degrade the ungodly."

Or change the will of God by not allowing it to be cut...
Take care...  :handshake:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 09:36:56 PM
It is also how those before them denied,

so see how was the retribution of the wicked! ....


They have lied about that which they did not have knowledge of, nor has its explanation come to them. It is also how those before them denied, so see how was the retribution of the wicked! (10:39)

We hear
We obey

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 09:41:00 PM
your mission is to stop cutting trees ... so look after it..

Exactly...  :laugh:

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 12, 2019, 09:49:58 PM
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main purpose...

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FORMULA:

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 13, 2019, 12:09:25 AM
Slm MI,

are you an computer programmer ?? you write like one ;)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 04:05:31 AM
nope.. just basic instruction in pseudocode etc for consistency and establishing the legal framework for the Quran..

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e.g.

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 13, 2019, 04:06:54 AM

computer programmer ??

TATA
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 04:21:14 AM
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IMAN = Say! He, ENERGY, is ONE (CONSISTENT/PROVABLE). (112:1)

~ THE UNLETTERED



ELSE = The Arabs say, "We have iman." Say: "You do not have iman." (49:14) The Arabs are the worst in rejection and hypocrisy, and more likely not to know "Islam". (9:97)

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 04:35:47 AM
If you turn away - know that the only duty of Our Messenger is clear communication/arguments. (5:92)

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~ THE UNLETTERED



Those We have given the Book/Ordain recognise it as they recognize their own sons. Yet a group of them knowingly conceal the truth. (2:146)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 13, 2019, 05:22:19 AM
Slm Mahdi,

i explored the Quran , but the name Mahdi is nowhere showed / mentioned... only in hadiths ( man made stories)

what does the name Mahdi means btw ??
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 05:38:13 AM
THE CRADLE...

(ANIMISM <- FOUNDATION)

the Quran about "signs" and "traits".. name can be anything... similarly, an orange or apple call by many names in this world, but the (UNLETTERED) "signs/traits" of an orange or apple is the same...

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 05:49:56 AM
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21:57 By Allah, I will devise some scheme against your idols when your backs are turned."

21:58 He broke them in pieces, except for the biggest one, so that they would have it to consult!

21:59 They said, "Who has done this to our gods? He is definitely one of the wrongdoers!"

21:60 They said, "We heard a young man mentioning them. They call him Ibrahim."

21:61 They said, "Bring him before the people's eyes so they can be witnesses."

21:62 They said, "Did you do this to our gods, Ibrahim?"

21:63 He said, "No, this one, the biggest of them (CONSTITUTION), did it. Ask them if they are able to speak!"

21:64 They consulted among themselves and said, "It is you yourselves who are wrongdoers."

21:65 But then they relapsed back into their kufr: "You know full well these idols cannot talk (CANNOT MAKE ARGUMENT)."

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 13, 2019, 06:17:35 AM
Slm

i didnt saw it , i read that verse so many times .... thx for clarifying this to me.

but why do you call yourself MAHDI ??





Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 06:28:13 AM
the Quran about "signs" and "traits"..

وَيُكَلِّمُ النَّاسَ فِي الْمَهْدِ وَكَهْلًا وَمِنَ الصَّالِحِينَ
3:46

AND I am the Matheist (Mahdist).. .

so that all those who believe and take action through Matheism...

They are all Imam al-Mahdi... ie. The MAHDIST (MATHEIST) ...

Thus We have made you a just/ecological nation (ecological citizens) so that you are witnesses ( = MESSENGER) over mankind and the Messenger be witness over you. (2:143)

And the Day We send to every nation a witness (messenger) against them from themselves... . (16:89)

AND

Rasul: I was a witness against them as long as I remained among them. (5:117)

THEN, new or other messengers shall be the messenger/witness over that community.



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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 13, 2019, 06:33:00 AM
وَيُكَلِّمُ النَّاسَ فِي الْمَهْدِ وَكَهْلًا وَمِنَ الصَّالِحِينَ
3:46

AND I am the Matheist (Mahdist).. .

so that all those who believe in Matheism...

They are all Imam al-Mahdi... ie. The MAHDIST (MATHEIST) ...

Thus We have made you a just nation so that you are witnesses ( = MESSENGER) over mankind and the Messenger be witness over you. (2:143)

And the Day We send to every nation a witness (messenger) against them from themselves... . (16:89)

AND

Rasul: I was a witness against them as long as I remained among them. (5:117)

THEN, new or other messengers shall be the messenger/witness over that community.

Slm Mahdi,

if you qoute orso , its not readable text ...pity ....

btw are there also female Mahdi's ??
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 06:46:18 AM
Yes, there will be male (people of ibrahim) and female (people of imran) Mahdist...

conditions to heaven, obey natural person (rasul)..

Say, ´If you love Allah, then follow me and Allah will love you and forgive you for your wrong actions. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Merciful.´ Say, ´Obey Allah and the Messenger.´ Then if they turn away, Allah does not love the kafirun. Allah chose Adam and Nuh and the people of Ibrahim (male) and the people of Imran (female/maryam) over all other beings (rasul/king/queen/forerunner). (3:31-33)

"...over all other beings (rasul/king/queen/forerunner)..."

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 07:01:28 AM
Purpose of life.. about Kingship.

(and new planet emerge etc ... until "On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (50:30)")

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Obey Allah (Law of Nature) and obey His Messenger (KING / NATURAL PERSON), and do not let all your good deeds come to nothing. (47:33)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: kaltun on February 13, 2019, 07:10:11 AM
Slm MI

first i have to admit, the way you explain , ive have never seen before ( in belief) , i love it  :bravo: ....
 
but you're saying in one of your drawings :
Allah has chose Ibrahim as "KING " , word you putted as KIng = Khalil

Kh-Lam-Lam


To become lean, to diminish/decrease/waste away, to be poor, be of want or need, to perforate/pierce/skewer a thing, to remove/transfer/shift, to pick or extract the remains of, put into the interstices of a thing, to spoil or become sour, make wine into vinegar, act as a true and sincere friend, fall short of accomplishing a task, to neglect/omit or leave undone, to absent one's self, produce bad fruit, enter/penetrate or pass through, interrupt or intervene, to be shaky/ loose/ faulty/ defective, to be uncompact/disordered/unsound, to be corrupt or disordered in temperament, to attire with an anklet or pair of anklets, to be old and worn out, to die and leave a gap/ vacancy, to be of habit/ custom, show true and sincere affection/ friendship/ love, to be flawed/imperfect/deficient, to leave one thing for another.


khalil

n.m. (pl. akhilla)

4:125
وَمَنْ أَحْسَنُ دِينا ً مِمَّنْ أَسْلَمَ وَجْهَه ُُ لِلَّهِ وَهُوَ مُحْسِن ٌ وَاتَّبَعَ مِلَّةَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ حَنِيفا ً وَاتَّخَذَ اللَّهُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ خَلِيلا ً
Wa Man 'Aĥsanu Dīnāan Mimman 'Aslama Wajhahu Lillāhi Wa Huwa Muĥsinun Wa Attaba`a Millata 'Ibrāhīma Ĥanīfāan Wa Attakhadha Allāhu 'Ibrāhīma Khalīlāan

And who is better in the system than the one who submits himself to God, and he is a good doer, and he follows the creed of Abraham in monotheism? And God took Abraham as a friend.

nowhere is see word king ....
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 07:15:41 AM
similarly, you can never found the word "FROG" in chinese language...
 

and during the ancients, King emerges from Judges ....

I swear by your Lord that they will not be considered "Muslims" until they make you JUDGE / KING... (4:65)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 07:20:36 AM
Divine right of kings

The divine right of kings, divine right, or God's mandate is a political and religious doctrine of royal and political legitimacy. It asserts that a monarch is subject to no earthly authority, deriving the right to rule directly from the will of God [ie. MESSENGER / RASUL]. The king is thus not subject to the will of his people, the aristocracy, or any other estate of the realm. It implies that only God can judge an unjust king and that any attempt to depose, dethrone or restrict his powers runs contrary to the will of God and may constitute a sacrilegious act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_right_of_kings


IF King
THEN with "the will of God"
ELSE Joker (Pharoah)

Issue: What is the will of God?
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 13, 2019, 07:23:17 AM
Brother Mahdi.

You had the ball in your half for many pages in this thread. I have got it off you in this post for now.
So here comes my counter attack:
I want you to seek forgiveness brother.
REPENT brother ,you are no Mahdi ,you are a fake. STOP your blasphemous lies that GOD =Energy.
40:14
Therefore, you shall devote your service absolutely to God ALONE(Not to Energy!!!), even if you dislike it.
فَادعُوا اللَّهَ مُخلِصينَ لَهُ الدّينَ وَلَو كَرِهَ الكٰفِرونَ
40:15
Possessor of the highest ranks, and Ruler of the whole dominion. He sends inspiration, bearing His commands, to whomever He chooses from among His servants(Who are devotees to HIM Alone, not to Mushriks who claim the GOD is his creation!!), to warn about the Day of Summoning.-Please be warned brother Mahdi, GOD is not energy!!!
رَفيعُ الدَّرَجٰتِ ذُو العَرشِ يُلقِى الرّوحَ مِن أَمرِهِ عَلىٰ مَن يَشاءُ مِن عِبادِهِ لِيُنذِرَ يَومَ التَّلاقِ
40:16
That is the day when you (brother Mahdi!) will be completely exposed; none of your followers will hide anything from God. To whom belongs all sovereignty on that day? To God, the One, the Supreme.---Not to energy!!!_--
يَومَ هُم بٰرِزونَ لا يَخفىٰ عَلَى اللَّهِ مِنهُم شَىءٌ لِمَنِ المُلكُ اليَومَ لِلَّهِ الوٰحِدِ القَهّارِ
Prepare for the Big Day brother Mahdi. I will repent if I were you
40:17
On that day, every soul will be requited for whatever it had earned. There will be no injustice on that day. God is most efficient in reckoning.(Are you insisting GOD is energy? Think brother, think.)
اليَومَ تُجزىٰ كُلُّ نَفسٍ بِما كَسَبَت لا ظُلمَ اليَومَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ سَريعُ الحِسابِ
No Intercession from you to any of those you will mislead.
40:18
Warn them(Yes brother, you and your followers!!!) about the imminent day, when the hearts will be terrified, and many will be remorseful. Those who say GOD is energy will have no friend nor an intercessor to be obeyed.
وَأَنذِرهُم يَومَ الـٔازِفَةِ إِذِ القُلوبُ لَدَى الحَناجِرِ كٰظِمينَ ما لِلظّٰلِمينَ مِن حَميمٍ وَلا شَفيعٍ يُطاعُ
40:19
He is fully aware of what the eyes cannot see, and everything that the minds conceal.(GOD indeed knows what you are saying and pasting all over the forum)
يَعلَمُ خائِنَةَ الأَعيُنِ وَما تُخفِى الصُّدورُ
40:20
God judges equitably, while the energy they implore beside Him cannot judge anything. God is the One who is the Hearer, the Seer.(Yiou may see energy,but energy cannot see or hear you!)
وَاللَّهُ يَقضى بِالحَقِّ وَالَّذينَ يَدعونَ مِن دونِهِ لا يَقضونَ بِشَىءٍ إِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ السَّميعُ البَصيرُ
40:30
The one who believed( Your friend good logic!) said, "O my brother Mahdi, I fear for you the same fate as the previous opponents.
وَقالَ الَّذى ءامَنَ يٰقَومِ إِنّى أَخافُ عَلَيكُم مِثلَ يَومِ الأَحزابِ
40:31
"The opponents of Noah, and `?d, Thamoud, and others who came after them. God does not wish any injustice for the people.
مِثلَ دَأبِ قَومِ نوحٍ وَعادٍ وَثَمودَ وَالَّذينَ مِن بَعدِهِم وَمَا اللَّهُ يُريدُ ظُلمًا لِلعِبادِ
40:32
"O my brother Mahdi, I fear for you the Day of Summoning.
وَيٰقَومِ إِنّى أَخافُ عَلَيكُم يَومَ التَّنادِ
40:33
"That is the day when you may wish to turn around and flee. But nothing will protect you then from God. Whomever God sends astray, nothing can guide him."
يَومَ تُوَلّونَ مُدبِرينَ ما لَكُم مِنَ اللَّهِ مِن عاصِمٍ وَمَن يُضلِلِ اللَّهُ فَما لَهُ مِن هادٍ
Who is the  Messenger now ? I know I am no messenger sent specifically from GOD to you ,But I am a warner To those who claim another god-energy- besides GOD  according to Qoran. Be warned brother!!!
Or carry on if you wish, but do not say you have not been warned.

Over to you now brother, your say or pages of it.
 May GOD  bless you and forgive you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 07:27:44 AM
Brother Mahdi.

You had the ball in your half for many pages in this thread. I have got it off you in this post for now.
So here comes my counter attack:
I want you to seek forgiveness brother.
REPENT brother ,you are no Mahdi ,you are a fake. STOP your blasphemous lies that GOD =Energy.
40:14
Therefore, you shall devote your service absolutely to God ALONE(Not to Energy!!!), even if you dislike it.
فَادعُوا اللَّهَ مُخلِصينَ لَهُ الدّينَ وَلَو كَرِهَ الكٰفِرونَ
40:15
Possessor of the highest ranks, and Ruler of the whole dominion. He sends inspiration, bearing His commands, to whomever He chooses from among His servants(Who are devotees to HIM Alone, not to Mushriks who claim the GOD is his creation!!), to warn about the Day of Summoning.-Please be warned brother Mahdi, GOD is not energy!!!
رَفيعُ الدَّرَجٰتِ ذُو العَرشِ يُلقِى الرّوحَ مِن أَمرِهِ عَلىٰ مَن يَشاءُ مِن عِبادِهِ لِيُنذِرَ يَومَ التَّلاقِ
40:16
That is the day when you (brother Mahdi!) will be completely exposed; none of your followers will hide anything from God. To whom belongs all sovereignty on that day? To God, the One, the Supreme.---Not to energy!!!_--
يَومَ هُم بٰرِزونَ لا يَخفىٰ عَلَى اللَّهِ مِنهُم شَىءٌ لِمَنِ المُلكُ اليَومَ لِلَّهِ الوٰحِدِ القَهّارِ
Prepare for the Big Day brother Mahdi. I will repent if I were you
40:17
On that day, every soul will be requited for whatever it had earned. There will be no injustice on that day. God is most efficient in reckoning.(Are you insisting GOD is energy? Think brother, think.)
اليَومَ تُجزىٰ كُلُّ نَفسٍ بِما كَسَبَت لا ظُلمَ اليَومَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ سَريعُ الحِسابِ
No Intercession from you to any of those you will mislead.
40:18
Warn them(Yes brother, you and your followers!!!) about the imminent day, when the hearts will be terrified, and many will be remorseful. Those who say GOD is energy will have no friend nor an intercessor to be obeyed.
وَأَنذِرهُم يَومَ الـٔازِفَةِ إِذِ القُلوبُ لَدَى الحَناجِرِ كٰظِمينَ ما لِلظّٰلِمينَ مِن حَميمٍ وَلا شَفيعٍ يُطاعُ
40:19
He is fully aware of what the eyes cannot see, and everything that the minds conceal.(GOD indeed knows what you are saying and pasting all over the forum)
يَعلَمُ خائِنَةَ الأَعيُنِ وَما تُخفِى الصُّدورُ
40:20
God judges equitably, while the energy they implore beside Him cannot judge anything. God is the One who is the Hearer, the Seer.(Yiou may see energy,but energy cannot see or hear you!)
وَاللَّهُ يَقضى بِالحَقِّ وَالَّذينَ يَدعونَ مِن دونِهِ لا يَقضونَ بِشَىءٍ إِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ السَّميعُ البَصيرُ
40:30
The one who believed( Your friend good logic!) said, "O my brother Mahdi, I fear for you the same fate as the previous opponents.
وَقالَ الَّذى ءامَنَ يٰقَومِ إِنّى أَخافُ عَلَيكُم مِثلَ يَومِ الأَحزابِ
40:31
"The opponents of Noah, and `�d, Thamoud, and others who came after them. God does not wish any injustice for the people.
مِثلَ دَأبِ قَومِ نوحٍ وَعادٍ وَثَمودَ وَالَّذينَ مِن بَعدِهِم وَمَا اللَّهُ يُريدُ ظُلمًا لِلعِبادِ
40:32
"O my brother Mahdi, I fear for you the Day of Summoning.
وَيٰقَومِ إِنّى أَخافُ عَلَيكُم يَومَ التَّنادِ
40:33
"That is the day when you may wish to turn around and flee. But nothing will protect you then from God. Whomever God sends astray, nothing can guide him."
يَومَ تُوَلّونَ مُدبِرينَ ما لَكُم مِنَ اللَّهِ مِن عاصِمٍ وَمَن يُضلِلِ اللَّهُ فَما لَهُ مِن هادٍ
Who is the  Messenger now ? I know I am no messenger sent specifically from GOD to you ,But I am a warner To those who claim another god-energy- besides GOD  according to Qoran. Be warned brother!!!
Or carry on if you wish, but do not say you have not been warned.

Over to you now brother, your say or pages of it.
 May GOD  bless you and forgive you.
Peace.

try logic, fact and evidence etc .. the above is blind accusation + ad hominem + lots of nonsense :rotfl:


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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 13, 2019, 07:38:24 AM
Wow! Brother Mahdi, this is unlike you only a small post to reply.
That means I have a free kick, you fouled!!!
Here comes my free kick:

The Believing brother good logic goes for it.

40:41
"O my brother Mahdi, while I invite you to be saved, you invite me to the hellfire.
وَيٰقَومِ ما لى أَدعوكُم إِلَى النَّجوٰةِ وَتَدعونَنى إِلَى النّارِ
40:42
"You invite me to be unappreciative of God, and to set up beside Him this energy that I do not recognize as a god. I am inviting you to the Almighty, the Forgiver.---Repent brother ,repent.---
تَدعونَنى لِأَكفُرَ بِاللَّهِ وَأُشرِكَ بِهِ ما لَيسَ لى بِهِ عِلمٌ وَأَنا۠ أَدعوكُم إِلَى العَزيزِ الغَفّٰرِ
40:43
"There is no doubt that what you invite me to do has no basis in this world, nor in the Hereafter, that our ultimate return is to God, and that the transgressors have incurred the hellfire ---Where they find a lot of enery, but no GOD to save them!!!!.
لا جَرَمَ أَنَّما تَدعونَنى إِلَيهِ لَيسَ لَهُ دَعوَةٌ فِى الدُّنيا وَلا فِى الـٔاخِرَةِ وَأَنَّ مَرَدَّنا إِلَى اللَّهِ وَأَنَّ المُسرِفينَ هُم أَصحٰبُ النّارِ

Be warned brother!
Over to you brother,your say!
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 07:43:41 AM
your Truth is against Nature / Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature?

How come?

How can it even be considered as Truth?  :rotfl:

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God's Truth (Natural)
Satan's Lies (Unnatural)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 07:49:23 AM
And undoubtedly, it [Math + E + Ism, Way of Allah/Sunnatullah] is a great sorrow to the infidels. (69:50)


"There is no doubt that what you invite me to do has no basis in this world

you are so deluded..  :rotfl:

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 07:57:55 AM
you are in your 50s and it's time to GROW UP AND BE YOU, FINAL HOUR!  :rotfl:

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 08:05:32 AM
What is your Truth?  Dare to live?  O0

Lord said to the angels, "I am putting a Khalif (King) on earth" (2:30)

And when Musa said to his people, "O my people, remember (the) Favor of Allah upon you when He placed among you Prophets and made you kings ( مُلُوكًا ) and He gave you what He (had) not given (to) anyone from the worlds. (5:20)

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 08:10:08 AM
the other path is for "corwardice" (munafiqoon) ...

A coward is less than a man. He does not deserve to be a member of a society of men and women.? ― Mahatma Gandhi.

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cancer ... please stay away, cancer cells can be infectious!  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 09:17:54 AM
JOKER...

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PROPAGANDA...

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 09:21:35 AM
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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 13, 2019, 09:53:48 AM
Peace Mahdi.
Now you are saying a little bit more.
That is more like Mahdi. All speaking and...
I rely on my defence brother, and my better goalkeeper.

So let us see then. You say,: quote:

  "Allah made you king".

 I am surprised you have not claimed this as well :

 "The sign of my kingship is that the Ark of the Covenant will be restored to me, bringing assurances from the energy, and relics left by the people of Moses and the people of Jesus and the people of Muhammed. It will be carried by the angels. This should be a convincing sign for you, if you are really believers."

  Then may be some will believe you!!!
Do not worry, if you make yourself king over yourself I will not complain.
40:44
"Some day you will remember what I am telling you now. I leave the judgment of this matter to God; God is the Seer of all the people."
فَسَتَذكُرونَ ما أَقولُ لَكُم وَأُفَوِّضُ أَمرى إِلَى اللَّهِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ بَصيرٌ بِالعِبادِ

God will protected us from your evil schemes brother if you are fake.
Do not worry indeed.

Over to you. This time really go for it, test my defence properly.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 10:15:37 AM
You become a KING when you disobey STUPID PEOPLE, make sense?

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Allah has promised those of you who have iman (natural person) and do natural actions that He will make them successors (KING) in the land as He made those before them successors (KING), and will firmly establish for them their deen (Matheism Jurisprudence) with which He/Sunnatullah/Nature/LordLaw of Nature is pleased and give them, in place of their fear, security. ´They serve Me/Sunnatullah ALONE/LordLaw of NATURE ALONE, not associating anything with Me.´ Any who are kafir after that, such people are deviators. (24:55)

and Allah has already made me King through Matheism Jurisprudence....


God will protected us from your evil schemes brother if you are fake..
The Arabs say, "We have iman." Say: "You do not have iman." (49:14)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 11:19:35 AM
If the truth were to follow their (unnatural and illogical) desires, the heavens and the earth and everyone in them would have been brought to ruin (HELL).  

No indeed!

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We have given them their Reminder, but they have turned away from it. (23:71)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 13, 2019, 11:58:41 AM
Peace Mahdi.
This applies to you!!
We have given them their Reminder, but they have turned away from it. (23:71)
I keep reminding you, but you take no notice.

 You say God gave you kingship  but GOD never did.
 You are now defeated by God's leave.If it were not for God's support of some people against others, there would be chaos on earth.
I was just highlighting the obvious. I do not expect you to abdicate.
Carry on being king. I do not mind.
I was having a light conversation with you brother. You are free to do as you please.
In hindsight ,you are not a threat or a danger to anyone.
You are a peaceful brother, even if you want everyone to end up  in hell.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 12:10:46 PM
We have given them their Reminder, but they have turned away from it. (23:71)
I keep reminding you, but you take no notice.

Reminding me to be stupid and retard like the rest of you?  :rotfl:

Show me one thing from this whole universe for the existence of your UNNATURAL ALLAH?

What is it? Just one thing that existed without my ALLAH as ENERGY, the LordLaw of Cause & Effect?

What?

You say God gave you kingship  but GOD never did.

I have my Kingship.. .no one own me, and living my life not as approval junkies.. . I'm very confident against almost 8 billion peoples and many more from the pasts , I can argue with all of you; 8 billions and djinns + aliens etc etc.. .none can defeat my argument .. NEVER, GUARANTEED... not even YOUR KING!  :rotfl:..

Quote
Law is the conditions of natural harmony for all species. ~ Mahdi Ibrahim

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That is my Kingship, al-Malik ( -> angel)

I own everything about my life...every aspect of it.

I decide all the path and my destiny, Master of The LordLaw of Cause & Effect.


What are you?

How you live your life?

Slave or cattle? Joker? Approval junkies? Retard?  No?

Then, what can you prove as truth from your dogmas and unnatural ways of life?

Show me just one thing from your dogma, what can you prove as fact?

Truth (nature) exists; falsehood (unnature) can neither originate, nor regenerate. (34:49)

You are now defeated by God's leave.If it were not for God's support of some people against others, there would be chaos on earth.

What?

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 12:26:37 PM
Al-Malik

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 13, 2019, 12:47:49 PM
.Peace Mahdi.
Hope you are enjoying our conversation.
I am going to challenge your energy god.

God is Lord of good logic; He leads him out of darkness into the light.
As for brother Mahdi, energy is his lord it leads him out of the light into darkness - 

good logic s challenge to Mahdi the messenger:

Have you noted Mahdi who argued with good logic  about his Lord.
 Mahdi said that Allah had given him kingship.
good logic said: My Lord is not energy". Mahdi said:"Allah=energy"
 good logic said, "My Lord God brings the sun from the east, can your energy god bring it from the west?"
 
 It will also be your sign as a messenger.
Go on brother,prove that you are Imam Mahdi?

GODbless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 12:49:13 PM
are you living as KING or ANIMALISTIC PERSON?

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 12:55:47 PM
good logic said: My Lord is not energy". Mahdi said:"Allah=energy"
 good logic said, "My Lord God brings the sun from the east, can your energy god bring it from the west?"

you have already defeated, and before I even started.

do you realize how stupid and retard is your argument?

the LordLaw that "brings the sun from the east" is ENERGY / SUNNATULLAH.  science illiterate, so where is your IMPOTENCE ALLAH? :rotfl:

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That is my LordLaw, ie.

You will never encounter an alternative for sunnatullah. You will never find an alteration in the sunnatullah! (35:43)

See... that is my LordLaw, that brings the sun from the east

so can your IMPOTENCE ALLAH bring it from the west?

you live like cattle and can't even control your mind/reason etc... absolute blindness and everything is NONSENSE.   :rotfl:

We created many of the jinn and mankind for Hell. They have hearts they do not understand with. They have eyes they do not see with. They have ears they do not hear with. Such people are like cattle (IN A SLAUGHTERHOUSE). No, they are even further astray! They are the unaware/IDIOT. (7:179)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 01:18:58 PM
KING or ANIMALISTIC PERSON?

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They SEEK TO TRICK Allah and those who believed while they deceive none but themselves, but THEY ARE NOT AWARE. (2:9)

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THEY FAIL TO UNDERSTAND! (2:171)

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The worst animals before God are the deaf and dumb, those who DO NOT use their reason (unnature). (8:22)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 01:24:50 PM
A lie CANNOT LIVE.

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 01:46:25 PM
Allah would never destroy human habitation (with climate change) without FIRST SENDING A RASUL (رَسُولًا) to its centre, reciting our Signs/Tawba to them. (28:59)

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Mbah Soleh and nine graves...

https://books.google.com.my/books?id=srZ5L70phwQC&pg=PA351&lpg=PA351&dq=MBAH+SOLEH+NINE+GRAVES&source=bl&ots=eiqoDkBBZy&sig=ACfU3U2Btaga3tn6NeYBMIEKzrymu6xd2A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiTnqDuybngAhWMbbwKHZpqCRwQ6AEwAHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=MBAH%20SOLEH%20NINE%20GRAVES&f=false

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: jkhan on February 13, 2019, 05:59:16 PM
Purpose of life.. about Kingship.

(and new planet emerge etc ... until "On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (50:30)")

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Obey Allah (Law of Nature) and obey His Messenger (KING / NATURAL PERSON), and do not let all your good deeds come to nothing. (47:33)
According to your nice pictures it looks like earth is ball but you don't say it... Are you a coward?  :&
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 07:13:20 PM
Do you have anything smarter to say OTHER than the ad hominem fallacy?

the one with "BRAIN"?

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at least, try proving what you want to say..

what is your proof for the above claim?

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Fear has its use but cowardice has none.

THEREFORE:

They are distracted in mind, even in the middle of it (as cowardice, neutral, peacemaker, bystander etc), being committed to neither one group nor the other.  (4:143) The COWARDICE are in the lowest level of the Fire. (4:145)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 13, 2019, 07:24:48 PM
guys and gays, yes I have seen your BIG TITS! :rotfl:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/49/cd/97/49cd97634dea8683b67fe89e4d47c30a.jpg)

Iive your life with BIG TITS!

and speak with your BIG TITS!

PLEASE BRING REAL ARGUMENT/BOXING (WITH YOUR TITS = WORLD GYM) AND STOP PROVING HOW BIG ARE YOUR TITS, DISGUSTING!  :yuck:

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* my argument on the metaphor of cowardice.

IBRAHIM : Disgust upon you, and upon things that you serve besides Allah (ie. "YOUR BIG TITS" vs. Sunnatullah, logical and real argument)! Do you not apply reason? (21:67)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 16, 2019, 10:08:03 AM
These people of ours have taken LordLaws apart from Him/Sunnatullah. Why do they not produce a clear argument concerning them? [ACCORDINGLY] Who could do greater wrong than someone who invents a lie against Allah/Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature/EcoLogic? (18:15)


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Invite/argue to the path of your LordLaw with wisdom/soundness and good advice/argument, and argue with them in that which is better. Your Lord is fully aware of who is misguided from His path, and He is fully aware of the guided ones. And if you punish, then punish with equivalence to that which you were punished. And if you are patient then it is better for the patient ones. (16:125-126)


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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 16, 2019, 10:14:17 AM
Allah [is] the LordLaw of the Universe. (al-Fatihah: 2)


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All of them did nothing but declare the messengers (of The Sunnatullah, of Natural Order, of Ecological Signs) as liars; hence, My punishment became due. (38:14)

ie.

NATURE = LIARS

Even if you asked forgiveness for them seventy times, Allah still would not forgive them. That is because they have rejected Allah/Sunnatullah and His Messenger. (9:80)

On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (50:30)

That is 60 MINUTES.

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610522.0
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 20, 2019, 10:53:43 AM
But as for those who (1) have clear evidence from their LordLaw (of Nature // Sunnatullah); (2) followed up by a witness from Him (clear argument // Natural Person); and (3) before it the ordain of Musa came as a model and a mercy (Tawba/align to Natural Order // Natural LordLaw, 7:156-157) : [ONLY] such people have iman in it (the Quran). Any faction which rejects it is promised the Fire. Be in no doubt about it. It is the Truth from your Lord. But many people have no iman. (11:17)

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Those We have given the ordain recognise it as they recognise their own sons! Yet a group of them knowingly conceal the TRUTH (NATURE / NATURAL ORDER / SUNNATULLAH / NATURAL PERSON=RASUL). (2:146)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 20, 2019, 06:40:11 PM
BEAR WITNESS:

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[ALLAH'S COMMAND] Say: "Mankind! I am the Messenger of Allah to you all, (ie.) of Him to whom the (natural) kingdom of the heavens and earth belongs. There is no LordLaw but Him (LordLaw of Nature, ie) He (naturally) gives life and causes to die.´ So have iman in Allah/Sunnatullah and His Messenger/Natural Person, the Unlettered (naturalist) Prophet/Grand News (ecological order), who has iman in Allah/Sunnatullah and His words, and follow him so that hopefully you will be guided." (7:158)

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 21, 2019, 03:13:18 AM
I have a feeling brother this is deja vu. The style and pasting is familiar.
have you come back to the forum under another name?
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 21, 2019, 03:18:22 AM
Topic: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi?

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These, our people, have taken LordLaws apart from Him/Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature. Why do they not bring a clear argument concerning them? [Accordingly] For who does greater wrong than one who fabricates a lie against Allah? (18:15)

Terrible... not even a single person on Earth+++ can counter my argument and living their life as cowardice, BIG TITS ("World Gym" = "Good Logic", much likely) ...  :rotfl:

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Burden of Proof for Messengership: Our LordLaw proves that We are Messengers 36:16

The argument: "Law is the conditions of natural harmony for all species" ~ Mahdi Ibrahim

The counterargument: NONE!  :brickwall:

Rebuttal argument: Avoid the ignorant. (7:199)

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 21, 2019, 03:22:40 AM
First you prove I am not Imam Mahdi?
Until then you are just an imposter.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 21, 2019, 04:54:30 AM
That's easy... because you're the UNNATURALIST (forced justice), stupid and LOGIC FAIL, TERRIBLY!  :rotfl:

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FORMULA: If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (39:37)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 21, 2019, 05:09:32 AM
That's easy... because you're the UNNATURALIST (forced justice), stupid and LOGIC FAIL, TERRIBLY!  :rotfl:


 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

or

 :brickwall:  :brickwall:

GL u r checkmate my friend already hahahahaha oh my gosh
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 21, 2019, 05:56:13 AM
Peace Mahdi.
This has not proven I am not Imam Mahdi, quote:
That's easy... because you're the UNNATURALIST (forced justice), stupid and LOGIC FAIL, TERRIBLY! 

To you everyone is either Mad or brainwashed, I could be those as well but still be The Mahdi (your warner!).
I had conversations with an old member"Muslims" who had the same style and insistance.
You will have a problem brother if he comes back here as a Mahdi as well/

Imran brother, CHECK the above MATE.

GOD bless.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 21, 2019, 06:03:18 AM
Peace Mahdi.
This has not proven I am not Imam Mahdi, quote:
That's easy... because you're the UNNATURALIST (forced justice), stupid and LOGIC FAIL, TERRIBLY! 

To you everyone is either Mad or brainwashed, I could be those as well but still be The Mahdi (your warner!).

How could Allah chose retard to be his Messenger? Explain... It is disgusting to boxing with your "BIG TITS"... you do realize "tits" are not for boxing? :rotfl:

FORMULA: If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (39:37)

delusional. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy (unnature) from reality (nature)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 21, 2019, 06:06:54 AM
@ GL u can unlock the mystery if u somehow focus on the dp of brother mahdi.

there are lot of messengers on this forum from past years or may b one or two reincarnated messengers perhaps.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 21, 2019, 06:11:29 AM
How could Allah chose retard to be his Messenger? Explain... It is disgusting to boxing with your "BIG TITS" :rotfl:


Modern messenger Got modern language.

thats how messengers spread their message ?


Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 21, 2019, 06:33:31 AM
yeah, our "message" is we  kick ass and language of the unlettered.. it is the metaphor for cowardice .. especially from the "FIGHT CLUB", and used by many world leaders to describe their nature.  :rotfl:

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* my argument on the metaphor of cowardice.

IBRAHIM : Disgust upon you, and upon things that you serve besides Allah (ie. "YOUR BIG TITS" vs. Sunnatullah, logical and real argument)! Do you not apply reason? (21:67)


We did not teach him poetry, nor does he need it. This is a reminder and a clear Quran/argument/clear signs. (35:69)

Allah is not ashamed to make an example of a gnat or of an even smaller thing (or even SHIT, 9.28). As for those who have iman, they know it is the truth from their Lord. But as for those who are kafir, they say, "What does Allah mean by this example?" He misguides many by it and guides many by it. But He only misguides the deviators. (2:26)


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The hypocrites (cowardice) are in the lowest level of the Fire.  (4:145)

"Good Logic (World Gym)" ?  :rotfl:

~ THE UNLETTERED
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 AM
Peace Mahdi.
For certain everything  about you is BIG. Not me!!!
BIG ideas, BIG pages, BIG assumption(about me, I have no -----)and your BIG position as a false messenger.

Well brother BIG is not always better.
Repent and be warned. Or ignore and carry on.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 21, 2019, 06:45:06 AM
what a cowardice.. "real boxing", understand? :rotfl:

How could Allah chose retard to be his Messenger? Explain... It is disgusting to boxing with your "BIG TITS"... you do realize "tits" are not for boxing? :rotfl:

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Quote from: Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 04:54:30 AM
FORMULA: If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (39:37)

delusional. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy (unnature) from reality (nature)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 21, 2019, 06:50:50 AM
something that can never be found from a coward (hypocrite in LOGIC), all you get is 30+ pages with nonsense...  :brickwall:

the other path is for "corwardice" (munafiqoon) ...

A coward is less than a man. He does not deserve to be a member of a society of men and women.? ― Mahatma Gandhi.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7qDJcfrvmp4rNPdC/giphy.gif)

cancer ... please stay away, cancer cells can be infectious!  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 21, 2019, 07:27:15 AM
Peace Mahdi.
How can I understand your message if all you do is insult me?
I am a retard, I have big...,I am brainwashed, I am mad (By the way, I proved this to you and I agree with this!).
I do not agree with the others.
Nor do I agree with this, quote:

something that can never be found from a coward (hypocrite in LOGIC), all you get is 30+ pages with nonsense... 

I thought the 30+ pages are yours. Count them?

Your brother imam Mahdi, until you prove I am not.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 21, 2019, 09:02:47 AM
This is my proof...

ARGUMENT: How could Allah chose a retard like you to be his Messenger?

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Pharaoh said, ´Haman/Propagandist, build me a tower/authority so that perhaps I may gain means of media/access, access/propaganda to the heavens/truth/happiness, so that I can look on Musa´s LordLaw/of Natural Order. Truly I think he is a liar.´ THAT IS HOW PHARAOH´S EVIL ACTIONS WERE MADE ATTRACTIVE TO HIM AND HE DEBARRED OTHERS FROM THE NATURAL/PATH. Pharaoh´s SCHEMING led to nothing but ruin.
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The man who had iman said, ´My people! follow me and I will guide you to the path of rectitude. My people! the life of this world is only fleeting enjoyment. It is the Next World which is the abode of permanence. (40:36-39)


That is a serious insult to Allah...

So please explain...

"Good Logic"?  :rotfl:

REASON:

FORMULA: If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (39:37)



* I have 6236 verses from the Quran that I can present clear argument for the proof of Messengership, and a School of Thougt that clearly distinct from all jurisprudential schools ever existed on Earth, and a complete theological/governance system for all countries, covering the executive, judiciary and legislative etc.. and ... now let us see how you answer that one verse.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 21, 2019, 09:34:11 AM
Big fishy fish
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 21, 2019, 09:39:19 AM
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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 21, 2019, 09:48:09 AM
EXAMPLE:

Our Law proves that we are most surely Messengers. (36:16)


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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 21, 2019, 10:32:43 AM
FORMULA: If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (39:37)

Judge me by the people I AVOID!

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On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (50:30)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 21, 2019, 11:35:23 AM
Peace Mahdi.
I disobey their rules and I disobey your rules. I am a rebel as well brother.

So I see now,you want to swap . I will be Mahdi(since you have still no proof I am not). And you will be good logic?

Watch me flood your threads with pages of solid arguments from now on. Be warned!
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 21, 2019, 11:42:32 AM
Peace Mahdi.
I disobey their rules and I disobey your rules. I am a rebel as well brother.

So I see now,you want to swap . I will be Mahdi(since you have still no proof I am not). And you will be good logic?

Watch me flood your threads with pages of solid arguments from now on. Be warned!
GOD bless you.
Peace.



I'm certain that you fail terribly in logic...

but can you understand the QUESTION, at least?  :rotfl:

This is my proof...

ARGUMENT: How could Allah chose a retard like you to be his Messenger?
...

So please explain...

"Good Logic"?  :rotfl:

REASON:

FORMULA: If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (39:37)


  • delusional. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument (forced justice), typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
  • Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy (unnature = forced justice) from reality (nature = natural justice)[/color]



IF Rasul (Imam al-Mahdi)
THEN cannot be misguided ( vs. Sunnatullah // vs. Way of Allah // vs. natural justice)
ELSE JOKER // RETARD // INSANITY (Way of Shaytan/Fallacies, forced justice)



* I have 6236 verses from the Quran that I can present clear argument for the proof of Messengership, and a School of Thougt that clearly distinct from all jurisprudential schools ever existed on Earth, and a complete theological/governance system for all countries, covering the executive, judiciary and legislative etc.. and ... now let us see how you answer that one verse.  :laugh:


* 3 pages and still, not even started  :brickwall:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 21, 2019, 12:33:14 PM
If you have doubts about what We have sent down to Our slave, produce another sura (definition of Law: Our LordLaw proves that we are Messengers 36:16) equal to it, and call your witnesses, besides Allah/Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature, if you are telling the truth. If you do not do that — and you will not do itthen fear the Fire whose fuel is people and stones, made ready for the kafirun. (2:23-24)

Every nation has a Messenger and when their Messenger comes everything is decided between them justly [ = Ecological Jurisprudence/Justice vs Forced Justice/Jurisprudence/Dogma]. They are not wronged. They ask 'Muhammad', "When will this promise (of Final Rasul) be fulfilled?" (10:47-48 > 28:59 > 17:58 > 27:82 > 44:10-11 > 39:54)

Mahdism / Matheism / Mahdist / Matheist

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do your best, ALL MANKIND AND JINN, ALL UNIVERSE! :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 21, 2019, 02:32:42 PM
Peace Mahdi.

Quote:
If you have doubts about what We have sent down to Our slave, produce another sura (definition of Law: Our LordLaw proves that we are Messengers 36:16) equal to it, and call your witnesses, besides Allah/Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature, if you are telling the truth. If you do not do that — and you will not do it — then fear the Fire whose fuel is people and stones, made ready for the kafirun. (2:23-24)

1-I have doubts about you not what Allah sent down.
2- You have produced a lot of spam threads. All useless. I witness only what I see and I see a lot of pasting and pictures.
3-You are not telling the truth. You are no Mahdi or Rasool.
4-I do not do that, tell lies. I certainly. will not do it.
5-I hope you will fear the fire and repent.

Be warned brother.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 21, 2019, 03:50:26 PM
not the issue, the issue is where is your answer / explanation for my counterargument?

You have wasted (3) pages (no usage) with your nonsense and "cowardice"... proven. 

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/610dfVrFu2L._SY450_.jpg)

The hypocrites (cowardice) are in the lowest level of the Fire. (4:150)

A coward is less than a man. He does not deserve to be a member of a society of men and women. ~ Gandhi

So...

Quote from: Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 09:02:47 AM
This is my proof...

ARGUMENT: How could Allah chose a retard like you to be his Messenger?
...

REASON:

FORMULA: If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (39:37)

delusional. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument (forced justice), typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy (unnature = forced justice) from reality (nature = natural justice)[/color]



IF "Good Logic" is the Rasul (Imam al-Mahdi)
THEN cannot be misguided ( vs. Sunnatullah // vs. Way of Allah // vs. natural justice)
ELSE JOKER // RETARD // INSANITY (Way of Shaytan/Fallacies, forced justice)


prove it...
Title: You can easily recognize them by the way that they argue. (47:30)
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 21, 2019, 04:08:13 PM
You can easily recognize them by the way that they argue. (47:30)

1-I have doubts about you not what Allah sent down.
2- You have produced a lot of spam threads. All useless. I witness only what I see and I see a lot of pasting and pictures.
3-You are not telling the truth. You are no Mahdi or Rasool.
4-I do not do that, tell lies. I certainly. will not do it.
5-I hope you will fear the fire and repent.

Be warned brother.

The coward's weapon, poison!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/26h0qLIjS9CqetYGI/giphy.gif)

please argue like a man.... or WOMAN! :rotfl:

He does not deserve to be a member of a society of men and women. ~ Gandhi

They belong neither to you (MAN) nor to them (WOMAN). (4:143, 58:14) The hypocrites (cowardice) are in the lowest level of the Fire. (4:150) It is they who are Shaytan's Army. (58:19)

When you see them, their outward form appeals to you, and if they speak you listen to what they say. But they are like propped-up planks of wood (NO USAGE! "Fear has its use but cowardice has none"). They imagine every cry to be against them. They are the real enemy, so beware of them. Allah fight them! How they are perverted! (63:4)


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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 22, 2019, 12:36:00 AM
Peace Mahdi.
I like conversing with you. It keeps the thread interesting and gives it a variety rather than just you answering yourself and repeating your message.

When Qoran came down, there was CO2 emissions aplenty. I mean all the sacrifices polluted the earth!
The prophet certainly warned his people about cutting trees!

Also do not take me seriously like I do not take your insults seriously. Look at it as entertainment for the readers!

When the prophet was alive, the oil companies with their diesels, petrol and all sorts of chemicals were kept secret from society, nevertheless Qoran came to warn about climate change at that time also!!!

Antarctica was conquered by groups who confirmed a hole in the ozone layer but had no way of getting in touch with the prophet, nevertheless Qoran still warned about global warming!!!

 So if global warming existed then and still exist now, life is still carrying on . So enjoy the warm temperatures!!

I am not saying some points of yours are not valid, I am just saying are you the only one aware and warning about global warming?!!

Well if Qoran has come to you to be a NATURAL, then by definition we all all NATURALS since you claim that is all there is!!!

So cheers to all of us NATURALS! Death to golbal warming!!

GOD bless you brother Mahdi.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 22, 2019, 06:32:06 PM
What is this nonsense?

4 pages...

can you rebut this counterargument or not?

Quote
Quote from: Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 09:02:47 AM
This is my proof...

ARGUMENT: How could Allah chose a retard like you to be his Messenger?
...

REASON:

FORMULA: If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (39:37)

delusional. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument (forced justice), typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy (unnature = forced justice) from reality (nature = natural justice)



IF "Good Logic" is the Rasul (Imam al-Mahdi)
THEN cannot be misguided ( vs. Sunnatullah // vs. Way of Allah // vs. natural justice)
ELSE JOKER // RETARD // INSANITY (Way of Shaytan/Fallacies, forced justice)

Which of you IS MAD? (68:6)
(Allah's argument: Humans are insane)

First you prove I am not Imam Mahdi?
Until then you are just an imposter.

1. Direct argument, you claimed to be the Messenger (ie. "guided")

2. Counterargument, refer above...

3. Rebuttal argument, prove it... "you are guided" (ie. "cannot be misguided (forced justice)")
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 23, 2019, 12:56:14 AM
Peace Mahdi.
And what about this bigger nonsense? Quote:

ARGUMENT: How could Allah chose a retard like you to be his Messenger?
...

You are asking me to prove I am guided. i.e I am the Mahdi messenger, yet you ask such a retarded question?
You mean you will not believe what I say?
 If saying things is proof for you, then you have proved everything you said?
But we know differently,your contradictions, as highlighted by myself in your threads, prove otherwise.
Need I say more?
Now you have no choice but to believe what I say in this post.
Got you brother,what do you say for yourself . Half a page will do unless you prefer to paste 3 or more pages out of context,insulting me and off topic. i.e evading to answer the point noted.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 23, 2019, 01:46:48 AM
You are asking me to prove I am guided. i.e I am the Mahdi messenger, yet you ask such a retarded question?
You mean you will not believe what I say?
 If saying things is proof for you, then you have proved everything you said?
But we know differently,your contradictions, as highlighted by myself in your threads, prove otherwise.
Need I say more?
Now you have no choice but to believe what I say in this post.


Your kind of LOGIC? This is what I mean "good logic" = "World Gym" :rotfl:

You have NO LOGIC at all and could go on like this for 30+ pages or even 100+ pages full of nonsense, while believing it as solid argument...

Reality? NO INTELLECTUAL VALUE, NO USAGE (hypocrites of LOGIC), "propped-up planks of wood" and no matter how many years it takes.  ..

When you see them, their outward form appeals to you, and if they speak you listen to what they say. But they are like propped-up planks of wood (NO USAGE! "Fear has its use but cowardice has none"). They imagine every cry to be against them. They are the real enemy, so beware of them. Allah fight them! How they are perverted! (63:4)

so enough of this kind of nonsense/insanity/"bitch tits", "Avoid the ignorant. 7:199" ..   it is YOUR DESTINY :brickwall:

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 If saying things is proof



here it is ...

If you have doubts about what We have sent down to Our slave, produce another sura (or "definition of Law") equal to it, and call your witnesses, besides Allah/Sunnatullah, if you are telling the truth. If you do not do that — and you will not do it — then fear the Fire whose fuel is people and stones, made ready for the kafirun. (2:23-24)

but not your kind of "saying/logic".  :rotfl:


*and you will not do it *

(my proof for messengership, and even your "delusional Allah" or 320,000,000 gods or ALL mankind and djinns etc could not counter my argument   :laugh:)

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do your best, ALL MANKIND AND JINN, ALL UNIVERSE! :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 23, 2019, 03:04:21 AM
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...such people are the true kuffar (4:150)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 23, 2019, 04:09:24 AM
Peace Mahdi.
For me a better qualified Mahdi  in recent years was the Sesame street character, Kermit the Frog.
I find it a bit laughable  just where the Imam Mahdi you are claiming to be would rank on the "relating" scale in comparison to Kermit the Frog.
You remind me of this Imam s story:
"I am aware that my position as hereditary Imam provokes constant queries from commentators in this forum.
They remind me of Imam Mahdi(you)  talking about his long family history who was finally challenged at a dinner party with the words "I suppose your ancestors were in the Ark with Noah, too." "No" he replied calmly, "actually they had their own boat."
One of your ancesters was the messenger then,Noah was a fake.

 Many have  said to me, brother good logic, why do you make these jokes? And I said why shouldn't I make jokes?
 I remind them that, in Islam, happiness is a blessing. It is a blessing from Allah. Therefore if you have smiles, and if you have happy forum members, and you have friends, and you enjoy the qualities of life, this is also a reason to be thankful for the blessing from Allah
Unlike you I do not call members mad or retards!

Of course brother, start with the basic assumption that the world is a much better place because it is pluralist and multi-cultural.
 Imagine what it would be like living in a world of no diversity, a world where we were all the same colour, shape and size, ate the same ,became Imam Mahdi all of us, told the same jokes.  I would find a world like that quite boring! Even if there was no climate change!

Mahdi, It is an honour to be conversing with you. If IQ could be converted into kilowatts, I have no doubt that the quantum massed here in this forum from your threads would meet the world's energy requirements for at least a decade.

So never mind Allah=energy, your energy alone will take over the world.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 23, 2019, 04:14:29 AM
except none of it is LOGICAL..

"God exists since mathematics (nature, natural justice) is consistent, and
The Devil exists since we cannot prove it (unnature, forced justice)."


see? it doesn't matter what you think... no usage (delusional, insantiy). lol
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 23, 2019, 04:39:56 AM
Then all I can say to you brother Mahdi is that your logic is upside down. Like this story of another Imam:

One hot day, An Imam was taking it easy in the shade of a walnut tree. After a time, he started eyeing speculatively, the huge pumpkins growing on vines and the small walnuts growing on a majestic tree.
Sometimes I just can't understand the ways of God! He mused. Just fancy letting tiny walnuts grow on so majestic a tree and huge pumpkins on the delicate vines!
Just then a walnut snapped off and fell smack on the Imam s bald head. He got up at once and lifting up his hands and face to heavens in supplication, said:
Oh, my God! Forgive my questioning your ways! You are all-wise. Where would I have been now, if pumpkins grew on trees!

Logic brother is not what you seem to think it is?
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 23, 2019, 04:57:55 AM
Then all I can say to you brother Mahdi is that your logic is upside down. Like this story of another Imam:

Prove it...

Argument: Law is the conditions of natural harmony for all species. ~ Mahdi Ibrahim

I doubt you have the ability, in fact... 100% certain.   

What is Logic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPfw422Wcso

obviously not your kind of logic (insanity)  :rotfl:

If you turn away - know that the only duty of Our Messenger is clear communication/arguments. (5:92)

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~ THE UNLETTERED



Those We have given the Book/Ordain recognise it as they recognize their own sons. Yet a group of them knowingly conceal the truth. (2:146)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 23, 2019, 05:36:44 AM
Peace Mahdi.
You are still asking me to     Prove it...  !!!!
OK--But do not change the argument or ignore what I say--
 Here is my proof;
I am the true Imam Mahdi because:
"We'll define it to be true." By definition,
1. I call everybody brother.
2. I like nature and the environment.
Number 3 will only to be used if your agreement is impossible.
3.  " For any epsilon> 0 there exists a corresponding delta > 0 s.t. f(x) − L < epsilon whenever x − a < delta"

Finally"And the Lord said, 'Let it be true,' and it came to pass."
I am Imam Mahdi."I don't care what you say! It is true!"
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 23, 2019, 07:52:47 PM
That awkward moment when those who know nothing about logic insisting he is an expert, the "World Gym" ... and, always missing the point / question!  I gave up with this kind of logic. :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 24, 2019, 02:38:45 AM
You shall be three kinds. (56:7)

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_______________
Burden of Proof for the Forerunner or Founder (Imam)

_______________
Burden of Proof for the Ibrahims's Descendant: Forerunner or Founder (Imam)

Then We passed the Book to those of Our servants whom We chose. Some of them wrong their souls (People of the Left), and some follow a middle course (People of the Right), and some are in the foremost (Founder in Jurisprudential School of Thought and Jihad, conditions of Chapter 103 // Pillars of Matheism) in natural deeds by Allah's leave; that is the greatest blessing. (35:32)

None can be the founder except with "Allah's greatest blessing", ie. contract between Allah and Ibrahim

_______________
What is the Contract? ("Allah's greatest blessing")

Remember when Ibrahim was tested by his Lord with certain words which he carried out completely. He said, "I will make you an Imam (Founder) for mankind." He asked, ´And what of my descendants?´ He said, "[Granted but] My contract ("Allah's greatest blessing") does not include the wrongdoers (descendants)." (2:124)

Therefore

IF guided (Founder in Jurisprudential School of Thought/Ecological Justice and Jihad for Ecological Nation: One Nation or Constitutional Islam https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610467.0)
THEN certainly Ibrahim's descendant for Allah's contract, ie. Imam al-Mahdi
ELSE certainly not Imam al-Mahdi, and highly probable not Ibrahim's descendant

BURDEN OF PROOF

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On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (50:30)

_______________
Therefore

That awkward moment when people from Political Jurisprudence (Forced Justice / People of the Book) claimed to be Imam al-Mahdi, without proof of logic. :rotfl:

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 24, 2019, 06:51:54 AM
Peace Mahdi
You are in for a treat. I told you I will prove your logic is upside down and your argument changes every post and every thread.

You thing we are fools, let us see who the fool is:
 
This following proof kills your argument:
Statement S(n): In any group of n people, everyone in that group is Imam Mahdi.
Proof:
 In any group that consists of just one person, everybody in the group is Imam Mahdi, because after all there is only one person!

 Therefore, statement S(1) is true.  Follow on:

 The next stage in the induction argument is to prove that, whenever S(n) is true for one number (say n=k), it is also true for the next number (that is, n = k+1).

 We can do this by (1) assuming that, in every group of k people, everyone is Imam Mahdi; then (2) deducing from it that, in every group of k+1 people, everyone is Imam Mahdi.

 Let G be an arbitrary group of k+1 people; we just need to show that every member of G is Imam Mahdi.

 To do this, we just need to show that, if P and Q are any members of G, then they are also Imam Mahdi.

 Consider everybody in G except P. These people form a group of k people, so they must all be Imam Mahdi(since we are assuming that, in any group of k people, everyone is Imam Mahdi).

 Consider everybody in G except Q. Again, they form a group of k people, so they must be all Imam Mahdi.

 Let R be someone else in G other than P or Q.

 Since Q and R each belong to the group considered in step 7, they are Imam Mahdi.

 Since P and R each belong to the group considered in step 8, they are Imam Mahdi.

 Since Q and R are Imam Mahdi, and P and R are Imam Mahdi, it follows that P and Q are also Imam Mahdi

 We have now seen that, if we consider any two people P and Q in G, they are Imam Mahdi. It follows that everyone in G is Imam Mahdi

 The proof is now complete: we have shown that the statement is true for n=1, and we have shown that whenever it is true for n=k it is also true for n=k+1, so by induction it is true for all n.
 
Since everyone -n- is Imam Mahdi ,I must be Imam Mahdi.
You cannot be Imam Mahdi because you do not belong to any group. To you all groups are mad ,deluded and retards.
Hence proven beyond any doubt that your logic is upside down. FALSE.
GOD bless you brother.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 24, 2019, 07:42:36 AM
Since everyone -n- is Imam Mahdi ,I must be Imam Mahdi.
You cannot be Imam Mahdi because you do not belong to any group ( = religion of "forced justice") . To you all groups ( = religion of "forced justice")  are mad ,deluded and retards.

full of nonsense.. and in contradiction with its main premise:

because after all there is only one person!

actual premise:

You shall be three kinds (GROUPS). (regardless of gods/religions/etc) (56:7)

THUS "who" and "what" gives you the right to define "n"?


Your "forced justice (political jurisprudence / shaytan) GOD"?



Therefore, "n" = group of Human Shaytans

...shaytans from both mankind and from the jinn, who inspire (religism / grouping) each other with delusions (unnature) by means of specious words (fallacies — if your LordLaw (of Nature) had willed, they would not have done it, so abandon them and all they fabricate (group of forced justice, political jurisprudence). (6:112)

See how deluded you are?  :rotfl:

Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 24, 2019, 08:06:21 AM
The reality...


Whereas, Imam Mahdi = People of Ibrahim, Ibrahims'

"n" = Ibrahim,  and "k" = "...And what of my descendants?´ He said, "[Granted but] My contract ("Allah's greatest blessing") does not include the wrongdoers (descendants)." (2:124)..."


the "Imam" (descendants of Ibrahim)

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k =

You shall be three kinds. (56:7)

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  • People of the Right, 56:8/39-40
    Ecological Citizens; Muslim
  • People of the Left, 56:9, 50:30
    Forced Justice; Kafirun, fasiq and fajir
  • The Forerunner, 56.10-14
    Founder (Imam) of Jurisprudential School of Thought; Rasul

_______________
Burden of Proof for the Forerunner or Founder (Imam)
  • FORMULA: If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (39:37)
    Those who have iman (guided) and do natural actions, how few they are! (38:24)
    REASON: http://www.sunnatullah.com/page/matheism
    They are a large group of the earlier generations (before the Quran) and a few of later generations (after the Quran) (56:13-14)
  • Founder for a School of Thought, Sunnatullah Alone
  • Jihad for non-cooperation and civil disobedience, vs. Forced Justice/Political Jurisprudence

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Burden of Proof for the Ibrahims's Descendant: Forerunner or Founder (Imam)

Then We passed the Book to those of Our servants whom We chose. Some of them wrong their souls (People of the Left), and some follow a middle course (People of the Right), and some are in the foremost (Founder in Jurisprudential School of Thought and Jihad, conditions of Chapter 103 // Pillars of Matheism) in natural deeds by Allah's leave; that is the greatest blessing. (35:32)

None can be the founder except with "Allah's greatest blessing", ie. contract between Allah and Ibrahim

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What is the Contract? ("Allah's greatest blessing")

Remember when Ibrahim was tested by his Lord with certain words which he carried out completely. He said, "I will make you an Imam (Founder) for mankind." He asked, ´And what of my descendants?´ He said, "[Granted but] My contract ("Allah's greatest blessing") does not include the wrongdoers (descendants)." (2:124)

Therefore

IF guided (Founder in Jurisprudential School of Thought/Ecological Justice and Jihad for Ecological Nation: One Nation or Constitutional Islam https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610467.0)
THEN certainly Ibrahim's descendant for Allah's contract, ie. Imam al-Mahdi
ELSE certainly not Imam al-Mahdi, and highly probable not Ibrahim's descendant

BURDEN OF PROOF

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so what is your proof that you are the group member of "n" or "k" (ie. forerunner, The Ibrahims')?   

http://www.sunnatullah.com/page/matheism


YOUR BURDEN OF PROOF

Quote
Quote from: Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 09:02:47 AM
This is my proof...

ARGUMENT: How could Allah chose a retard like you to be his Messenger?
...

REASON:

FORMULA: If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (39:37)

delusional. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument (forced justice), typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy (unnature = forced justice) from reality (nature = natural justice)[/color]



IF "Good Logic" is the Rasul (Imam al-Mahdi)
THEN cannot be misguided ( vs. Sunnatullah // vs. Way of Allah // vs. natural justice)
ELSE JOKER // RETARD // INSANITY (Way of Shaytan/Fallacies, forced justice)

prove it..


The next stage in the induction argument is to prove that, whenever S(n) is true for one number (say n=k), it is also true for the next number (that is, n = k+1).

"+ 1" or "People of the Right" = I swear by your Lord that they will never be Muslims until they let you (People of Ibrahim) judge their disputes and then they will find nothing in their souls to prevent them from accepting your judgment, thus, surrender in full submission (to "k"). (4:65)

(https://scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45537539_2226772517539327_3215218668178767872_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=a3eaa4b5250b3cf352708b5e9bc4ac48&oe=5CBE139F)

and prove it...  :rotfl:


On that Day we will raise up among every community a witnesses against them from amongst themselves. (16:89)

We will drag out a Witness/Rasul from each nation and will say, "Produce your evidence!". (28:75)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 24, 2019, 12:27:47 PM
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Obey Allah and obey the Messenger, and do not let all your good deeds come to NOTHING. (47:33) Even if you asked forgiveness for them seventy times, Allah still would not forgive them. That is because they have rejected Allah and His Messenger. (9:80)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 24, 2019, 02:21:55 PM
Peace Mahdi
You are in for a treat. I told you I will prove your logic is upside down and your argument changes every post and every thread.

You thing we are fools, let us see who the fool is:

You have failed!  :rotfl:

LordLaw (S) is (=) the conditions of natural harmony (n) for all species (k).

n's conditions = Math + E + Ism

your turn.. answer my counterargument.

YOUR BURDEN OF PROOF

prove it..

FORMULA: If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (39:37)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 24, 2019, 02:37:18 PM
Peace Mahdi.
You see how you are shifting the burden of proof!!!
Also it is important to note that your argument  used contradictory information, and faulty logic to reach your conclusion, that you think is  true.
 Me, demonstrating that your argument is  not sound, however, removes it as support for the truth of the conclusion ? it means that the conclusion is not true. Your argument is debunked!!!

Even if all of the premises of your argument are reliably true, and they are not, your  argument is invalid  because the logic employed is not legitimate ? a so-called logical fallacy or upside doown logic like I proved earlier.

There are many common logical pitfalls that your mind is falling into, and like I have shown you,you are not consciously aware of these pitfalls . Hence you did not  avoid them.

I will now add one more nail to the coffin for your argument:
Inconsistency
You are applying  your criteria and  rules to your  belief,  yet claim  as argument from your position that others are following criteria and rules of others.Do you not see this inconsistency tars you with the same brush.
Your argument is dead mate.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 24, 2019, 02:43:04 PM
Peace Mahdi.
You see how you are shifting the burden of proof!!!
Also it is important to note that your argument  used contradictory information, and faulty logic to reach your conclusion, that you think is  true.
 Me, demonstrating that your argument is  not sound, however, removes it as support for the truth of the conclusion � it means that the conclusion is not true. Your argument is debunked!!!

Even if all of the premises of your argument are reliably true, and they are not, your  argument is invalid  because the logic employed is not legitimate � a so-called logical fallacy or upside doown logic like I proved earlier.

There are many common logical pitfalls that your mind is falling into, and like I have shown you,you are not consciously aware of these pitfalls . Hence you did not  avoid them.

I will now add one more nail to the coffin for your argument:
Inconsistency
You are applying  your criteria and  rules to your  belief,  yet claim  as argument from your position that others are following criteria and rules of others.Do you not see this inconsistency tars you with the same brush.
Your argument is dead mate.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

So your blind claims and nonsense is your argument? your kind of logic?  :rotfl:

PROVE IT!

Quote
Quote from: Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 09:02:47 AM
This is my proof...

ARGUMENT: How could Allah chose a retard like you to be his Messenger?
...

REASON:

FORMULA: If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (39:37)

delusional. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument (forced justice), typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy (unnature = forced justice) from reality (nature = natural justice)[/color]



IF "Good Logic" is the Rasul (Imam al-Mahdi)
THEN cannot be misguided ( vs. Sunnatullah // vs. Way of Allah // vs. natural justice)
ELSE JOKER // RETARD // INSANITY (Way of Shaytan/Fallacies, forced justice)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 24, 2019, 02:47:11 PM
Well brother, my argument has at least reduced your answers from pages to one sentence.
Have you run out of words brother Mahdi?
Unlike you, that means your argument is dead or dying fast!!!.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 24, 2019, 02:49:30 PM
What's wrong with this argument?

LordLaw (S) is (=) the conditions of natural harmony (n) for all species (k).

Show me... prove to me it is a fallacious argument.

What is your definition of "Law"?
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 24, 2019, 03:00:31 PM
Well brother, my argument has at least reduced your answers from pages to one sentence.

yes, because I got tired with your nonsense, blind claim and trolling... ZERO intellectual value (NO USAGE), and can go even for 30+ pages or more ..  :brickwall:

I gave up with this kind of logic. :rotfl:

Fear has its use but cowardice (HYPOCRISY) has none (NO USAGE). ~ Gandhi

When you see them, their outward form appeals to you, and if they speak you listen to what they say. But they are like propped-up planks of wood (NO USAGE). They imagine every cry to be against them. They are the real enemy, so beware of them. Allah fight them! How they are perverted! (63:4)

propped-up planks of wood

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U4ZpeniwvMg/UM-oA5BSuII/AAAAAAAADHM/ABUCwfJbcJA/s1600/036+(800x600).jpg)

step on this, you'll fall in hell (30-100 pages of nonsense and trolling) forever.  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 24, 2019, 03:14:07 PM
Peace Mahdi.
Now you are applying CIRCULAR FALLACY!. You are starting again?
How about saving your bacon(or stinky flesh like you call it) by asking you to Start your day with humor by reading a selection of my(good logic) answers in this thread to remind you and make you reflect on starting again your dead argument.

Your logic is upside down like this:
What has a bottom at the top?
Your legs.
I mean your logic is like legs!!!
And this time make sure as well as your upside down logic,,use sand ,cement and gravel(or drivel) ,at least you will have some CONCRETE evidence to show for your argument.

So brother:Take my advice; I don't use it anyway.
GOD bless you.
Peace
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 24, 2019, 03:14:58 PM
do you know what is proof in logic?

First Issue

What's wrong with this argument?

LordLaw (S) is (=) the conditions of natural harmony (n) for all species (k).

Show me... prove to me it is a fallacious argument.

What is your definition of "Law"?

Second Issue

PROVE IT!

Quote
Quote from: Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 09:02:47 AM
This is my proof...

ARGUMENT: How could Allah chose a retard like you to be his Messenger?
...

REASON:

FORMULA: If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (39:37)

delusional. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument (forced justice), typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy (unnature = forced justice) from reality (nature = natural justice)[/color]



IF "Good Logic" is the Rasul (Imam al-Mahdi)
THEN cannot be misguided ( vs. Sunnatullah // vs. Way of Allah // vs. natural justice)
ELSE JOKER // RETARD // INSANITY (Way of Shaytan/Fallacies, forced justice)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 24, 2019, 03:22:24 PM
Now you are applying CIRCULAR FALLACY!.

THIRD ISSUE

Do you even know what is CIRCULAR FALLACY? You just went full retard.. Messenger. :rotfl:

let us see who the fool is:

Tip for circular reasoning

Circular reasoning is often of the form: "A is true because B is true; B is true because A is true."

It is you, right? lol

I am Imam Mahdi."I don't care what you say! It is true!"

30+ pages

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/c5I8DkUPI5U/hqdefault.jpg)

good logic

Watch me flood your threads with pages of solid arguments from now on. Be warned!

I got tired of ROTFL



THE MOST BASIC LOGIC FOR good logic

What makes you think you can counter my "definition of law" when I can prove the fallacious of Saint Thomas Aquinas, Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Salmond, Blackstone, Austin, Karl Marx, Professor Hartz, Sir John Almond, Muhammadism School of Thoughts and all jurists ever existed ... + plus counter their School of Thoughts?
  :rotfl:

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Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: good logic on February 24, 2019, 03:57:17 PM
Brother Mahdi.
I would like to close our amicable conversation with a "HOUMOUROUS FALLACY":

 ?I?d like to start with the chimney jokes ? I?ve got a stack of them. The first one is on the house.?

 As a scarecrow, people say I?m outstanding in my field. But hay ? it?s in my jeans.

?The best time to add insult to injury is when you?re signing somebody?s cast.? ?

 ?I had a dream last night that I was cutting carrots with the Grim Reaper ? dicing with death.? ?

 ?I went to buy some camouflage trousers the other day, but I couldn?t find any.? ?

 I waited and stayed up all night and tried to figure out where the sun was. Then it dawned on me.

 ?I saw this bloke chatting-up a cheetah. I thought: ?He?s trying to pull a fast one.'? ?

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

I went on a once in a lifetime holiday. Never again.

What sits at the bottom of the sea and twitches? A nervous wreck.

 ?Exit signs? They?re on the way out!? ?

 There?s no ?I? in Denial.

 A man tells his doctor, ?Help me. I?m addicted to Twitter!? The doctor replies, ?Sorry, I?m not following you.

? Exaggerations went up by a million percent last year.

Hope you enjoed our conversation as much as I did.
Sorry brother for all the off topics from me in your threads!
It s now goodbye from us folks in this thread-From me anyway-.Hope you enjoyed the show!!!
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 24, 2019, 04:01:07 PM
THE MOST BASIC LOGIC FOR good logic

What makes you think you can counter my "definition of law" when I can prove the fallacious of Saint Thomas Aquinas, Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Salmond, Blackstone, Austin, Karl Marx, Professor Hartz, Sir John Almond, Muhammadism School of Thoughts and all jurists ever existed ... + plus counter their School of Thoughts?
  :rotfl:

(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50914168_2275082096041702_5794395058262245376_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=24798717d98f7a7dd9ddfaf872c3511d&oe=5CBE9A52)

They define "Legal", they DO NOT define "Law"....

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(https://scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/48997533_2258934230989822_6658734510500216832_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=620d72c59302b0bf4a1752397e5a74c4&oe=5CE78583)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 24, 2019, 04:02:01 PM
Brother Mahdi.
I would like to close our amicable conversation with a "HOUMOUROUS FALLACY":

It is best for your kind  :bravo:
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on March 04, 2019, 02:10:23 PM
(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18767759_1935786333304615_1735807746717898546_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=7d9e002061d7d41716b960211aed7a5d&oe=5CC5F062)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on April 05, 2019, 07:55:22 AM
(https://scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36247232_2126301607586419_1608727116508037120_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=7a4da53097e1a44c77ac27b20570031d&oe=5D05216E)

main life issues (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610611.0)


Those We have given the Book/Ordain recognise it as they recognise their own SONS! Yet a group of them knowingly conceal the TRUTH (The Messenger of NATURAL JUSTICE / SUNNATULLAH). (2:146)
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on April 14, 2019, 04:47:31 PM
Forced Justice (Moral Relativism / People of THE BOOK)

Isa: So this: a law is enforced only by force.  .... all values come from man, so a society is then nothing but some men imposing their values on others - majorities on minorities, or rulers on ruled, or teachers on students, or media mind molders on the stupid, traditionalist masses." ~ Professor Peter Kreeft


(https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/57068526_2323142791235632_7017185673501212672_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=b633226ab14076137c3f6d72a3c756cf&oe=5D2C9AC1)

Quranic Animism
Title: Re: Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on April 22, 2019, 12:43:01 PM
The argument (https://en.arguman.org/law-is-the-conditions-of-natural-harmony-for-all-species): Our Law (https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50914168_2275082096041702_5794395058262245376_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=24798717d98f7a7dd9ddfaf872c3511d&oe=5CBE9A52) proves (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610464.0) that we (https://www.imam-mahdi.com/p/natural-person.html) are Messengers (https://scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45537539_2226772517539327_3215218668178767872_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=a3eaa4b5250b3cf352708b5e9bc4ac48&oe=5CBE139F). (Q36:16)




_______________________________

You can easily recognize them (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610567.0)
by the way that they argue (https://scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49007338_2257256507824261_3168650541106462720_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=0579c833e3729140d9836fd3a9814d24&oe=5CE5F517). (Q47:30)



Allah would never destroy human habitation (with climate change and mass extinctions) (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610651.0) without first sending a RASUL (رَسُولًا) to its centre (https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49115118_2260121007537811_6399655516200501248_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=01ecf75f3e4bfdc442e986d1eadbf41a&oe=5D2939B1), reciting our Signs/Tawba (https://scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41679748_2198357163714196_1267359727092760576_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=948f42bb4aeb6410510dee1e3a53d920&oe=5D36DEEB) to them. (Q28:59)

There is no city We will not destroy before the Day of Rising, Or punish with a terrible PUNISHMENT/climate change/the sixth mass extinctions.  (Q17.58)