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Critical Examination of Islam => Quranic Divinity => Topic started by: Emre_1974tr on January 01, 2018, 07:00:37 AM

Title: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 01, 2018, 07:00:37 AM
Examples:

Quran 50:38 We have created the heavens, the earth and what is between them in six days, and no fatigue touched Us.

Quran 7:40 Those who have denied Our signs, and reacted to them with arrogance, the gates of the sky will not open for them, nor will they enter paradise until the camel passes through the eye of a needle. It is such that We recompense the criminals.


1- God is not tired.

2- Not rich people, the disbelievers/bad peoples will go to hell.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 01, 2018, 07:01:16 AM
Quran 43:71 They will be served with golden trays and cups, and they will find everything the self desires and the eyes wish for, and you will abide therein forever.

There are all sorts of blessings in Paradise, including marriage, eating and drinking.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 01, 2018, 07:02:12 AM
Nobody has got ghost according to Quran

Unlike the traditional Islamic doctrine which is under the influence of sects and hadith fabrications, in the real Islamic doctrine of the Quran people have NO ghosts/ souls/ spirits. People do NOT have a divine component, a soul, a spirit nor a ghost.

 Everything created in the universe is material, physical and real, NOT an illusion. (for example the first man Adam was made from clay element and the jinn was made from fire element)

 Heaven and Hell are NOT mental delusions. They are ?physical? places created in another universe.

 Unfortunately, terms such as soul- spirit (an immortal divine component, a ghost that can exist on its own without the body even after death) have succeed to enter Islam due to wrong translations -which are made under the influence of hadith fabrications- and Islamic mysticism (sufism). But in the original text of the Quran (Arabic version), they are NOT available.
 In the Quran, people have ?nafs?, which is the equivalent of ?life energy?, ?ego?, ?character?. People are born, they die and they will be ?physically? recreated in the Hereafter:

 Does the human being think that We will not gather his bones? Indeed, We were able to make his fingertips (The Resurrection, 75: 3-4)

 As also can be seen in the verses, people do NOT have souls/ spirits, they only have ?nefs?, which dies together with the bodily functions. And as again can be understood from the verses ?most? of the people will be recreated in the Judgment Day. We use the word ?most? because there are some exceptions. The Quran gives the examples of very meritorious people, such as martyrs or prophets and on the other edge some deadly sinners, such as the Pharaoh who committed outrage to his people.

 These exceptional people have already started to reap what they have sown. They are either rewarded in Heaven (physically) or punished in Hell (physically).

 Examples to the righteous who go to Heaven immediately after their death:

 ? Do not count that those who are killed in the sake of God are dead. No, they are alive at their Lord receiving provisions. Happy with what God has granted them from His favor, and they rejoice for those who have yet to follow them. There is no fear over them nor do they grieve. (The Family of Imran, 3: 169-170)

 ? A man came running from the farthest part of the city, saying: "O my people, follow the messengers. Follow those who do not ask you for any wage, and are guided. Why should I not serve the One who initiated me, and to Him is your ultimate return? Shall I take gods besides Him? If the Gracious intends any harm for me, their intercession cannot help me in the least, nor can they save me. Then I would be clearly astray. I have acknowledged your Lord, so listen to me! It was said, "Enter Paradise." He said "Oh, how I wish my people only knew of what my Lord has forgiven me, and made me of the honored ones."We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the sky; for there was no need to send them down. For all it took was one scream, whereupon they were stilled. (36:20-29)

 Example to the disbelievers who committed ?deadly? sins and tyranny:

 ? So God protected him from the evil of what they schemed, while the people of Pharaoh have incurred the worst retribution. The fire, which they will be exposed to morning and evening, and on the day when the moment is established: "Admit the people of Pharaoh into the most severe of the retribution." (The Believer, 40: 45-46)

 And the following verses refer to the common/ordinary people, possibly the majority of the disbelievers:

 ? The horn will be blown, whereupon they will rise from the graves rushing towards their Lord. They will say, "Woe to us. Who has resurrected us from our resting place? This is what the Gracious had promised. The messengers were truthful!" (Ya sin, 36: 51-52)

 In the Quran the word ?Spirit? only refers to the ?Holy Ghost/Spirit? and to the messages It brought. For example:

 We gave Moses the book, and after him, We sent the messengers. Later We gave Jesus son of Mary the clear proofs, and We supported Him with the Holy Spirit. Is it that every time a messenger comes to you with what your minds do not desire, you become arrogant? A group of them you deny, and a group of them you kill! (2:87)

 Such messengers, We have preferred some to others; some of them talked to God, and He raised some of them in ranks, and We gave Jesus son of Mary the proofs and We supported him with the Holy Spirit. Had God wished, the people after them would not have fought after the proofs had come to them, but they disputed, some of them acknowledged and some of them did not appreciate. Had God wished they would not have fought, but God does whatever He wishes. (2:253)

 God said, "O Jesus son of Mary, recall My blessings upon you and your mother that I supported you with the Holy Spirit; you spoke to the people in the cradle and in old age; and I taught you the book and the wisdom, and the Torah, and the Injeel; and you would create from clay the shape of a bird, then blow into it and it becomes a bird by My leave; and you heal the blind and the leper by My leave; and you brought out the dead by My leave. I have restrained the Children of Israel from you, that you came to them with proofs; but those who rejected amongst them said, "This is an obvious magic!" (5:110)

 He sends down the angels with the Spirit by His command upon whom He wishes of His servants: "That you shall warn that there is no god but I, so be aware of Me." (16:2)

 They ask you concerning the Spirit. Say, "The Spirit is from the command of my Lord, and the knowledge you were given was but very little.? (17:85)
 It was sent down with the trusted Spirit. (26:193)

 Possessor of the highest ranks, the One with the Throne. He sends the Spirit with His command upon whom He wills from His servants, so that they may warn of the day of Summoning. (40:15)

 You will not find any people who acknowledge God and the Last day befriending those who oppose God and His messenger, even if they were their parents, or their children, or their siblings, or their tribe. For these, He decrees trust into their hearts, and supports them with a Spirit from Him, and He admits them into paradises with rivers flowing beneath, wherein they will abide. God is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him. These are the party of God. Most assuredly, the party of God are the winners. (58:22)

 The day when the Spirit and the angels stand in line, none will speak unless the Gracious permits him and he speaks what is true. (78:38)

 Some dangers of thinking that people have spirits/ souls:

 - Having a belief that people have spirits often leads up to the sanctification of the humans. It leads people to associate himself / herself with God.

 - It also contributes to building up a strong belief of spiritual evolution. As a result of this false belief, in order to evolve spiritually, people praise suffering and pain. When they encounter a disastrous situation, instead of getting out of it, they welcome it and take it as a reward. However, according to the Quran, the bad things that come to us are either to test us or a result of our sins, our own malignancy.

 - Spiritualists regard life as a school where we, as students, learn and mature. These people maintain that suffering / pain is a must for spiritual evolution. Thus, it turns the evil into hidden heroes having a special (key) role in the spiritual evolution process. Those who can read between the lines can easily realize that it glorifies the evil (even Satan). Also spiritualists
 tolerate the immoral behaviors of the ones who are not spiritually evolved (!)

 - Belief in the spirits opens the door to reincarnation, which means that we will be different creatures (different gender, different personality, different appearance etc.) in our other lives (!) In other words, it means that a person that dies is gone forever, which is actually a very materialistic point of view again if you read between the lines.

 - Some spiritualists think that death is something positive as spirit confined to the physical body will be set free and unite with God and become one. This deviant view also praises suicides.

 - People, who believe that people have spirits, mostly swap the belief for the Judgment Day with reincarnation and thus, they reject the belief in reward and punishment in the afterlife and eliminate Heaven and Hell, attributing symbolic meanings to both. In addition, they adopt ascetic lifestyles and scorn the beauties, provisions God gives us (in this world and in the other world).

 - People who believe in the spirits are more likely to be cheated by the jinns.

 Regards

Emre_1974tr (Emre Karak?se)
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 01, 2018, 07:02:56 AM
heaven is not paradise. Heaven =universe

Heavens = universes

The Qur'an offers a multi-universe model.

But it is not infinite.

Seven universes, for example.

Other universes have planets too.

65.12 Allah is the one who created seven Heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); [Allah's] command descends among them so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything.

Example "Floor of Lord" (Indallah) = afterlife universe

Except for the Hereafter universe, all the other universes will end with big crunch.

21:104 On the day when We roll up the heavens like a scroll of books is rolled up. As We initiated the first creation, so shall We return it. It is a promise of Ours that We will do this.

39:67 They have not given God His true worth; and the whole earth is within His fist on the day of resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Be He glorified; He is much too high above what they set up.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 01, 2018, 07:03:32 AM
The Noah Flood was regional.

It was only for the people of Noah.

Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 01, 2018, 07:03:49 AM
Probably Noah and the community lived on an island.

And only the people of Noah were destroyed.

Allah punishes badmen only.

Only the Qur'an tells the truth.

The Qur'an clearly states that the Flood was regional.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 01, 2018, 07:04:46 AM
No rajm in Islam

2 ? The adulteress and the adulterer should be flogged a hundred lashes (jalda) each. Do not be swayed by kindness from carrying out God?s law, if you believe in God and the Last Day. And the punishment should be witnessed by a group of believers.
24 The Light, 2

http://quranic.org/rajm-stoning-to-death/

Rajm is Judaism practise.

And, circumcision, the headscarf is Jewish (and Christian) practice. too.

Spirits/ghosts are pagan belivings and from Christianity.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 01, 2018, 07:05:26 AM
The true Sunnah of the Prophets is only in the Qur'an.

Example, the knowledge that Prophet Jesus was not crucified exists only in the Qur'an.

The prophets were not ascetic or poor.

David and Solomon were successful prophets.

They are in Paradise now.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: owlwithbow on January 01, 2018, 09:57:22 AM
Examples:

Quran 50:38 We have created the heavens, the earth and what is between them in six days, and no fatigue touched Us.

Quran 7:40 Those who have denied Our signs, and reacted to them with arrogance, the gates of the sky will not open for them, nor will they enter paradise until the camel passes through the eye of a needle. It is such that We recompense the criminals.


1- God is not tired.

2- Not rich people, the disbelievers/bad peoples will go to hell.

Do you know how to read Hebrew and Greek? Because the Tora and the Injeel are in those languages.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 01, 2018, 04:20:22 PM
Again:

Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself.

Quran only allows a war of defense.

If you read the full of the verses, you will always see the struggle with the attackers in the defense battle.

Example;

2:190 Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors.

2:191 Fight them wherever you meet them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. Do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then fight them. Thus is the reward of those who do not appreciate.

2:192 If they cease, then God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

2:193 Fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God's. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.

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Here again, He says, fight with the attackers.

But if you pull out a single verse. You make it look like saying the opposite.

And look at:

49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.

As you can see saying, if the attackers are Muslims, stop them too.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 01, 2018, 04:20:57 PM
And;

Adam and his wife, Then other some people were also created from direct soil.

2:36 So, the devil tricked both and he brought both of them out from what they were in, and We said, "Descend, you are all enemies of one another. In the land shall be stability for you and luxury for a while."

2:37 Adam then received words from His Lord, so He forgave him; He is the Forgiver, the Compassionate.

2:38 We said, "Descend from it all of you, so when the guidance comes from Me, then whoever follows My guidance, they will have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve."

The 36th verse refers to the descent of the first man Adam and his wife as a result of forbidding approach, while the 38th verse points out that some other people created for this world are also gathering together. Because 36th is already given orders, at 38th it is said again and again this time "all of you are going down" and also the future of the ambassadors.

According to the Qur'an, Adam and his wife have sinned together. The verses do not blame the woman.

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Some other people, from Adam and his wife were created in the garden.

We were already created to test / confront ourselves.

We are not in the world because of Adam and his wife's fruit eating.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 02, 2018, 12:04:31 PM
3:67 "Abraham was neither Jewish, nor Christian; he was a monotheist submitter. He never was an idol worshiper."

Allah always sends us the religion of Islam.

But people have always changed their religion, books in the past.

They even changed the names of their religions. Like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism.

There is only one God and always sends the same religion.

Abraham, Jesus, Muhammad are all true Prophet of Islam.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 02, 2018, 12:07:19 PM
Christians worship/believe 3(three) gods.

And In addition , their saints and priests like their Gods.

They share in the judgment of God (In christianity).

9:31 "They took their scholars and priests to be lords besides God, and the Messiah son of Mary, while they were only commanded to serve One god, there is no god but He, be He glorified for what they set up."

The Pagans think they believe in one God, but in reality they have faith in many gods.

Example; Hindus saying "333 in 1" and Christians saying "3 in 1".

Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 02, 2018, 12:09:05 PM
Quran 21:43 Or do they have gods that will protect them from Us? They cannot help themselves, nor can they be protected from Us.

The verse tells one of the reasons for the to attribute a partner to (God) of the villains; To seek refuge in the imaginary gods to protect themselves from God...

For example, seeing Jesus as a partner in God is a kind of.

Bad people seek refuge in the partners to escape from God.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 02, 2018, 01:59:06 PM
The age of the universe is three times the age of our Earth.

Quran 50:38. We assuredly created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, and nothing of fatigue touched us.

Quran 41.9 Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals? That is the Lord of the worlds."

The verses say the universes and our universe have been created in 6 days/stages, and our Earth is in 2 days/phases.

 So the age or creation phase of the universe means three times the age of our Earth or the stage of creation.

 Today, science also gives a similar knowledge: Our universe is 13.5 billion years old and our Earth is 4.5 billion years old....

 In other words, science indicates that the age of our universe is 3 times the age of our Earth(4.5 X 3 = 13.5).
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 07, 2018, 04:52:02 PM
9:31 "They took their scholars and priests to be lords besides God, and the Messiah son of Mary, while they were only commanded to serve One god, there is no god but He, be He glorified for what they set up."

The Pagans think they believe in one God, but in reality they have faith in many gods.

Example; Hindus saying "333 in 1" and Christians saying "3 in 1".

Communism, idolatry, panteism, holy people, pain, spirits, poverty... These are from Paganism/Spiritualism.

7:32 Say, "Who has forbidden the nice things that God has brought forth for His servants and the good provisions?" Say, "They are in this worldly life for those who acknowledge, and they will be exclusive for them on the day of Resurrection" We thus explain the signs for those who know.

God's blessings are a gift to us.

But, such as Christianity and Hinduism, pagan teachings are to prohibit the blessings of the world and the hereafter.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 07, 2018, 05:17:16 PM
"Pharaoh is a title given to Egyptian rulers in the New Kingdom (not before).


For centuries it was thought that all Egyptian rulers were referred to as Pharaohs. Actually the Christian Bible insists that Abraham and Joseph interacted with Pharaohs. However modern discoveries show that this cannot be true. Pharaoh is a title given to rulers in the Egyptian New Kingdom, not before. So there were no Pharaohs at the time of Abraham or Joseph. They were just kings. But the Quran didn't do this mistake. The Quran correctly addressed the ruler at the time of Joseph as King, and correctly addressed the ruler at the time of Moses as Pharaoh.

The Egyptian ruler at time of Joseph was a king:


[Quran 12:52] The king said, "Bring him to me, and I will reserve him for myself." And when he spoke to him, he said, "This day you are with us established and secure."

The Egyptian ruler at time of Moses was a Pharaoh:


[Quran 40:26[ Pharaoh said, "Let me kill Moses, and let him appeal to his Lord. I fear he may change your religion, or spread disorder in the land."

http://www.speed-light.info/miracles_of_quran/pharaoh.htm
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: huruf on January 08, 2018, 02:12:15 AM
"Pharaoh is a title given to Egyptian rulers in the New Kingdom (not before).


For centuries it was thought that all Egyptian rulers were referred to as Pharaohs. Actually the Christian Bible insists that Abraham and Joseph interacted with Pharaohs. However modern discoveries show that this cannot be true. Pharaoh is a title given to rulers in the Egyptian New Kingdom, not before. So there were no Pharaohs at the time of Abraham or Joseph. They were just kings. But the Quran didn't do this mistake. The Quran correctly addressed the ruler at the time of Joseph as King, and correctly addressed the ruler at the time of Moses as Pharaoh.

The Egyptian ruler at time of Joseph was a king:


[Quran 12:52] The king said, "Bring him to me, and I will reserve him for myself." And when he spoke to him, he said, "This day you are with us established and secure."

The Egyptian ruler at time of Moses was a Pharaoh:


[Quran 40:26[ Pharaoh said, "Let me kill Moses, and let him appeal to his Lord. I fear he may change your religion, or spread disorder in the land."

http://www.speed-light.info/miracles_of_quran/pharaoh.htm


Fir3awn is not a title but the individualised name of a tyrant given in the Qur'an. And the events are nothing to do with Egypt.

See: 

Salam everyone i would like to post 4 links of pdf about Arabia: The Untold Story if it is alright with you.

Book 1: Search for Pharaoh
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/1st-E-Book_Search-for-Pharaoh.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/1st-E-Book_Search-for-Pharaoh.pdf)

Book 2: Road of the Patriarch
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/2nd-E-Book_Road-of-the-Patriarch.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/2nd-E-Book_Road-of-the-Patriarch.pdf)

Book 3: Israel and Sheba
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/3rd-E-Book_Israel-and-Sheba.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/3rd-E-Book_Israel-and-Sheba.pdf)

Book 4: The Assyrian Storm
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/4th-E-Book_The-Assyrian-Storm.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/4th-E-Book_The-Assyrian-Storm.pdf)

Peace be upon you all!  :group: :group:

Salaam
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: The Sardar on January 08, 2018, 04:34:20 AM
Salam Huruf you love it when post these e-books huh?  ;D
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: owlwithbow on January 08, 2018, 05:37:40 AM

Fir3awn is not a title but the individualised name of a tyrant given in the Qur'an. And the events are nothing to do with Egypt.

See: 

Salaam

Pharao was from Egypt. Read the Quran, read the Tauwrat. It's very clear.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: huruf on January 08, 2018, 05:42:25 AM
Repeating over and over something does not make it true. References have been given for this question in which you do nto seem to have any interest. If you at least took the trouble to understand there might be a dialogue, but to repeat what is lready debunked is a waste of time and discourtesy.

The statements inthe Qur'an deny any possility that those stories happenned in Egypt.

Salaam
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 08, 2018, 04:02:35 PM
No Mr./Mrs. Huruf.

They were in ancient Egyptian civilization.

Read my Turkish article:

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2011/07/msr-firavunlarnn-caprazlama-merak.html
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: huruf on January 09, 2018, 12:17:16 AM
No Mr./Mrs. Huruf.

They were in ancient Egyptian civilization.

Read my Turkish article:

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2011/07/msr-firavunlarnn-caprazlama-merak.html

I can't read turkish. However I can read Arabic, and what the Qur'an says in the episodes of Yusuf and Musa does not at all Egypt, Ancient Egypt. You should examine it attentively and also read:

Salam everyone i would like to post 4 links of pdf about Arabia: The Untold Story if it is alright with you.

Book 1: Search for Pharaoh
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/1st-E-Book_Search-for-Pharaoh.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/1st-E-Book_Search-for-Pharaoh.pdf)

Book 2: Road of the Patriarch
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/2nd-E-Book_Road-of-the-Patriarch.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/2nd-E-Book_Road-of-the-Patriarch.pdf)

Book 3: Israel and Sheba
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/3rd-E-Book_Israel-and-Sheba.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/3rd-E-Book_Israel-and-Sheba.pdf)

Book 4: The Assyrian Storm
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/4th-E-Book_The-Assyrian-Storm.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/4th-E-Book_The-Assyrian-Storm.pdf)

Peace be upon you all!  :group: :group:



It has been discussed very recently int he forum.

Salaam
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: The Sardar on January 09, 2018, 12:57:44 AM
I can't read turkish. However I can read Arabic, and what the Qur'an says in the episodes of Yusuf and Musa does not at all Egypt, Ancient Egypt. You should examine it attentively and also read:



It has been discussed very recently int he forum.

Salaam
Oh Huruf, you make feel like a happy cat.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 09, 2018, 06:24:58 AM
They were in ancient Egyptian civilization.

I'm showing it with proof. It also proves that the new miracle of Quran.

Meanwhile, the boundaries of ancient Egyptian civilization may stretch to Anatolia.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 09, 2018, 06:44:11 AM
Quran 112:3 "Never did He beget, nor was He begotten,"

Quran 112:4 "None is equal to Him."


Quran 43:15 They assigned a share to Him from His own servants! The human being is clearly denying.


Pantheism, Trinity,Polytheism are wrong.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: owlwithbow on January 09, 2018, 07:58:40 AM
Quran 112:3 "Never did He beget, nor was He begotten,"

Quran 112:4 "None is equal to Him."


Quran 43:15 They assigned a share to Him from His own servants! The human being is clearly denying.


Pantheism, Trinity,Polytheism are wrong.

Where does the Bible teach a Trinity?
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: huruf on January 09, 2018, 08:03:00 AM
Oh Huruf, you make feel like a happy cat.

That is great. I am so proud I have made somebody happy int he forum... at least as happy as a cat.

 :yay: :yay:

Salaam
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 09, 2018, 08:05:59 AM
I wrote in English.

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609989.msg412402;topicseen#msg412402

Regards
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: owlwithbow on January 09, 2018, 09:05:26 AM
Quran 112:3 "Never did He beget, nor was He begotten,"

Quran 112:4 "None is equal to Him."


Quran 43:15 They assigned a share to Him from His own servants! The human being is clearly denying.


Pantheism, Trinity,Polytheism are wrong.

Where does the Bible teach a Trinity?
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 12, 2018, 10:28:57 AM
There's no one else named Joshua.

He was Jesus.

Jesus is the nephew of Moses and he has come to earth much earlier than you think.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 19, 2018, 05:46:57 PM
2:102 They followed what the devils recited regarding Solomon's kingship. Solomon did not reject, but it was the devils that rejected by teaching people magic and what was sent down on the two controllers in Babylon, Haroot and Maroot. They would not teach anyone until they would say, "We are a test, so do not be unappreciative!" Thus, they teach what can separate a person from his mate; but they cannot harm anyone except by God's permission. They learn what harms them and does not benefit them, and they have known that he who purchases such a thing has no place in the Hereafter. Miserable indeed is what they traded themselves with; if only they knew!

38:40 He has deserved a near position with Us, and a wonderful abode.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 24, 2018, 03:58:11 PM
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Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on February 01, 2018, 02:45:01 PM
I showed that the Injils in the market were books of hadith.

And listen to Taner Eon Lopez :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TQ03KqxD2I

https://www.amazon.com/Evolving-Gospels-Apotheosis-Jesus/dp/150581880X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1517445531&sr=1-1
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on February 03, 2018, 07:44:18 AM
Earth is a rotating sphere.

The Quran says that when the night and the day overlap, they make a ball (sphere):

http://www.speed-light.info/miracles_of_quran/earth.htm

Peace
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on February 04, 2018, 06:09:02 PM

No rajm

2 ? The adulteress and the adulterer should be flogged a hundred lashes (jalda) each. Do not be swayed by kindness from carrying out God?s law, if you believe in God and the Last Day. And the punishment should be witnessed by a group of believers.
24 The Light, 2

There is no rajm in real Islam.

And it corrects the mistake of the false Torah.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on February 10, 2018, 08:04:51 AM
There are Three times prayers/salaat in a day.

The Qur'an tells all the details of the salaat.

http://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/al-salat_(P1192).html

The real Injil and the real Torah had this information. But in the fake Injils and Torah, this information was extracted and forgotten.

There's crumbs left.

Daniel 6;10

Now when Daniel learned that the decree had been published, he went home to his upstairs room where the windows opened toward Jerusalem. Three times a day he got down on his knees and prayed, giving thanks to his God, just as he had done before.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AjUXqBD3DkU/UP3d5f4ZEfI/AAAAAAAAAZk/U6H1MWY3JXk/s1600/Kneeling.Poynter%2527s_Daniel%2527s_Prayer.fair%2Buse.jpg)
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on March 04, 2018, 04:27:21 PM
There's no one else named Joshua.

He was Jesus.

Jesus is the nephew of Moses and he has come to earth much earlier than you think.
"

Ahmed Osman also noticed this fact in part.

"Jesus and Joshua were one and the same and that this person was likewise the pharaoh Tutankhamun"

(Jesus in the House of the Pharaohs)

Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: good logic on March 05, 2018, 12:55:09 AM
Peace Emre.
So Beni Israeel were given the Torah and Injeel at the same time?

Or what is your explanation?
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: huruf on March 05, 2018, 01:32:34 AM
What is exactly el injil according to Qur'an?

Because it seems nobody up to now has given a clear definition or description, but everybody speaks about it as if it was a single piece clearcut and absolutely known.

If we cling to the meaning of the word it would be something like "generations" and it would make sense to assign it precisely to the generations after Musa and Har?n, that is, the son of Maryam and the son of Zakariya, and if we absolutely want to make the Qur'anic persons match something of the Bible, I do think that Josua seems the most likely match of 3isa Ibnu Maryam, daughter of the wife of 3imraan and therefore of 3imraan.

Again what exactly does anybody understand by "the" injil. Without that we are talking entirely at cross purposes.
It is quite a few years now that I see people speaking "authoritatively" on the injil and finally I doubt that anybody does know exactly about what he or she is speaking.

Salaam
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on March 05, 2018, 06:52:57 AM
Peace Emre.
So Beni Israeel were given the Torah and Injeel at the same time?

Or what is your explanation?
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Hi,

Not at the same time, but recently.

Thus it was also reported that the temporary penalties / haram were removed. Because the punishment was only for the community. Their children and grandchildren were innocent.

Peace
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on March 07, 2018, 09:18:43 AM
And that explains why Osiris and Horus stories look like Jesus ' life story.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 16, 2019, 06:49:45 PM
12:4 When Joseph said to his father: "My father, I have seen eleven planets and the sun and the moon, I saw them prostrating before me."

12:100 He raised his parents on the throne, and all fell in prostration before Him. He said, "My father, this is the interpretation of my old dream. My Lord has made it true, and He has been good to me that he took me out of prison and brought you out of the wilderness after the devil had placed a rift between me and my brothers. My Lord is kind to whom He wills. He is the Knowledgeable, the Wise."

Joseph's  mother lives and his dream came true.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on January 29, 2019, 01:43:05 PM

How the Quran Corrects the Bible

https://quranbible.org/english.htm
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on February 07, 2019, 08:55:23 PM
The story of a former christian youth minister:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P912yw0Wc5M
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on February 18, 2019, 11:15:58 AM
"The question still remains, why are more women converting than men to Islam ?
Perhaps they realize their Soul is worth the Factual Research.

1. The Bible Convicts Women as the original
Sinners, (ie. Eve picking from the forbidden
tree){Genesis 2:4-3:24}. The Koran Clarifies it
was Adam Not Eve {Qur'an 7:19-25}

2. The Bible says "The Birth of a Daughter is a
loss" {Ecclesiasticus 22:3}. The Qur'an says both
are an Equal Blessing { Qur'an 42:49}

3. The Bible Forbids Women from Speaking in
church {I Corinthians 14:34-35}. The Qur'an says
Women Can argue with the Prophet {58:1}

4. In the Bible, divorced Women are Labeled as
an Adulteress, while men are not {Matthew 5:31-32}. The
Koran does Not have Biblical double standards
{ Qur'an 30:21}

5. In The Bible, Widows and Sisters do Not
Inherit Any Property or Wealth, Only men
do{Numbers 27:1-11}The Koran Abolished this
male greediness { Qur'an 4:22} and God Protects
All.

6. The Bible Allows Multiple Wives{I Kings 11:3}
In The Koran, God limits the number to 4 only
under certain situations (with the Wife's
permission)and Prefers you Marry Only One
Wife{ Qur'an 4:3} The Koran gives the Woman
the Right to Choose who to Marry.

7. "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not
pledged to be married and rapes her and they are
discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty
shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he
has violated her. He can never divorce her as long
as he lives" {Deuteronomy 22:28-30}
One must ask a simple question here, who is
really punished, the man who raped the woman or
the woman who was raped? According to the
Bible, you have to spend the Rest of Your Life
with the man who Raped You.

Would the Christian men Reading this prefer the
Women they know to Be Christian or Muslim?

8. The Bible also asks Women to wear veils as in
Islam {I Corinthians 11:3-10}, this lowers the
chance of rape, (God Forbid), see statistic link
below.

9. Women were given rights to Vote less than a
100 years ago in the (US), while the Quran (42:38) gave
Women Voting rights almost 1,500 years ago.

10. Islam has unconfined Women and has given them
the human right to reach for the sky. There have been
Muslim Women Presidents through out the centuries,
but to this date, the oppressive mentality of the
men in the Western U.S.A. has stopped any Women from becoming
Presidents in predominately Christian countries,
while the Muslim countries have voted for and
elected Female Presidents."

https://jews-for-allah.org/Why-Believe-in-Allah/Jewish-Women-Converting-to-Islam.htm
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on February 20, 2019, 10:50:37 AM
Errancy; Children are born pure, without sin XE "sin" (Leviticus 11:44, 19:2, 20:7) Vs Children are born wicked sinners (Psalms 58:3)

Excuse; That is what it says but that is not what it means. (Psalms 58:3) is speaking about the potential to commit sin XE "sin" , not being an actual sinner.

Rebuttal: (See Reply letter [E] in Rebuttal Chart). The language and context used is that of one who is a sinner, not of one who will be a sinner.

?The wicked are estranged from the womb? -not- ?will be? (future tense), instead ?are? (present tense)

?they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.?

not will go astray as adults.

Furthermore, Paul also adopts the absurdity that children are sinners by claiming;

?Wherefore, as by one man sin XE "sin" entered into the world, and death XE "death" by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned? (Romans 5:12)

Correction: The Quran corrects the fallacy that children are inherently evil or have contracted sin XE "sin" of previous generations;

?We have indeed created man in the best of moulds.? (Quran 95:4)

"Say, "Shall I seek other than God as a Lord when He is the Lord of everything?" Every person earns what is for it, and none will bear the burden of another. Then to your Lord is your return and He will inform you regarding your disputes " (Quran 6:164)

" If you reject, then know that God is in no need of you, and He dislikes rejection for His servants. If you are appreciative, He is pleased for you. None shall bear the burdens of another. Then to your Lord is your return, and He will inform you of everything you had done. He is fully aware of what is inside the chests." (Quran 39:7)

https://quranbible.org/english.htm#_Toc96948618
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on February 21, 2019, 05:09:20 PM
"Errancy; Women are not property, except in the Bible (Exodus 21:7-11) A father can sell a daughter into slavery XE "slavery" to pay a debt. A daughter sold into slavery is not released at the end of six years as is an ordinary male slave.

Excuse; None available.

Correction: Fortunately, for all of us, God gave us our rights and freedom in the Quran over 1400 years ago. We do not have to be enslaved to the laws of the Bible:

God says: ?O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women XE "women" against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may Take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Allah brings about through it a great deal of good.? (Quran 4:19)

Regarding a parent?s debt or poverty, we are commanded in the Quran not to slay children to alleviate poverty:

?Say: Come I will recite what your Lord has forbidden to you-(remember) that you do not associate anything with Him and show kindness to your parents, and do not slay your children for (fear XE "fear" of) poverty - We provide for you and for them? (Quran 6:151)"

https://quranbible.org/english.htm#_Toc96948618
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on February 24, 2019, 01:38:25 PM
Quran 95:4 We have created the human being in the best form.

Quran 4:118 God has cursed him; and he had said, "I will take from Your servants a sizeable portion."

Quran 4:119 "I will misguide them and make them desire, and I will command them, so that they will mark the ears of the livestock, and I will command them so they will make change to God's creation." Whoever takes the devil as a supporter other than God, then he has indeed lost a great loss.

Human circumcision is out of religious/Islam.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on February 24, 2019, 01:43:51 PM
Errancy; In the Biblical version, almost all prophets seem to commit major sins in faith and moral standing. Within the Bible, some of the shameful deeds attributed to prophets include; Aaron XE "Aaron" ?s idol worship;

?Aaron XE "Aaron" said to people of Israel XE "Israel" , ?take off the rings of Gold which are in the ears of your wives, your sons and your daughters.? So they took off the rings of gold, and brought them to Aaron. And he received the golf at their hand and fashioned it with a graving tool and made a molten calf and they said, ?These are your Gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt.? (Exodus. 32:2)

Excuse; None available.

Correction: The Biblical concept of prophet hood is also radically different from the one presented in the Quran. The Quran depicts prophets as the best model of piety and moral uprightness. The Quran refutes this claim against Aaron XE "Aaron" ;

?(Allah) said: ?We have tested thy people in thy absence: the Samiri has led them astray.? So Moses XE "Moses" returned to his people in a state of indignation and sorrow. He said: ?O my people! did not your Lord make a handsome promise to you? Did then the promise seem to you long (in coming)? Or did ye desire that Wrath should descend from your Lord on you, and so ye broke your promise to me??

?They said: ?We broke not the promise to thee, as far as lay in our power: but we were made to carry the weight of the ornaments of the (whole) people, and we threw them (into the fire), and that was what the Samiri suggested.

?Then he brought out (of the fire) before the (people) the image of a calf: It seemed to low: so they said: This is your god, and the god of Moses XE "Moses" , but (Moses) has forgotten! Could they not see that it could not return them a word (for answer), and that it had no power either to harm them or to do them good??

?Aaron XE "Aaron" had already, before this said to them: ?O my people! ye are being tested in this: for verily your Lord is (Allah) Most Gracious; so follow me and obey my command. They had said: ?We will not abandon this cult, but we will devote ourselves to it until Moses XE "Moses" returns to us. (Moses) said: ?O Aaron! what kept thee back, when thou sawest them going wrong, from following me? Didst thou then disobey my order??

?(Aaron XE "Aaron" ) replied: ?O son of my mother! Seize (me) not by my beard nor by (the hair of) my head! Truly I feared lest thou shouldst say, ?Thou has caused a division among the children of Israel XE "Israel" , and thou didst not respect my word!?? (Quran 20:85-94)

The Quran clears Aaron XE "Aaron" of participation in the making and worshipping of the golden calf as the Bible portrays. The Quran illuminates the fact that Aaron was simply not as strong as Moses XE "Moses" , being the weaker brother of Moses; Aaron could not control the Israelites as Moses could, despite pleas by Aaron for the Israelites to stop.

?Not a messenger did We send before thee without this inspiration sent by Us to him: that there is no god but I; therefore worship and serve Me. And they say: ?(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten offspring.? Glory to Him! They are (but) servants raised to honor. They speak not before He speaks, and they act (in all things) by His Command.? (Quran 21:25-27)

https://quranbible.org/english.htm#_Toc96948618
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Mahdi Ibrahim on February 24, 2019, 01:55:10 PM
This is how the Quran (sound argument) confirms and correct previous texts, including the laws and all epistemological texts whatsoever etc ... "He made all gods same god 38:5"

(https://scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/33021466_2103024859914094_2534401368907579392_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=d3d9c4f7a507de6b14d7dbc10efe53bc&oe=5CE35016)

Say: ‘We believe in that which has been revealed to us and was revealed to you. Our God and your God is one and the same. To Him we submit as Muslims ( = make peace with Natural Order or Interpretation / Nature).‘ (29:46)
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on March 19, 2019, 07:15:33 PM
Errancy; Trees were created before man was created (Genesis 1:11-12, 26-27)  Vs  Man was created before trees were created.  (Genesis 2:4-9)

Excuse; None available.


Correction
: We see that the sequence is outlined correctly and without discrepancy in the Quran:

 ?Is not He (best) who created the heavens and the earth XE "earth" , and sendeth down for you water from the sky wherewith We cause to spring forth joyous orchards, whose trees it never hath been yours to cause to grow.  Is there any God beside Allah?  Nay, but they are folk who ascribe equals (unto Him)!?  (Quran 27:60)

 ?Hast thou not seen that unto Allah payeth adoration whosoever is in the heavens and whosoever is in the earth XE "earth" , and the sun, and the moon, and the stars, and the hills, and the trees, and the beasts, and many of mankind, while there are many unto whom the doom is justly due.  He whom Allah scorneth, there is none to give him honor.  Lo!  Allah doeth what He will.?  (Quran 22:18)

https://quranbible.org/english.htm#_Toc96948618
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on April 14, 2019, 07:24:25 PM
"The Bible describes the light of the sun and moon in the following verse:


God made two great lights?the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. [Genesis 1:16]

What?s interesting is that the same Hebrew word, ?ma?owr?, which means ?light, luminary?, is used to describe the light of both the sun and moon. If this is interpreted literally then it is scientifically inaccurate, as it would indicate that the sun and the moon are similar when it comes to light. The reality is that the sun emits its own light whereas the moon reflects light from the sun, like a mirror. This is exactly how the Qur?an describes the sun and moon:


Blessed is He who has placed in the sky great stars and placed therein a [burning] lamp and luminous moon. [Qur?an 25:61]"

http://www.manyprophetsonemessage.com/2014/06/11/how-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on April 22, 2019, 03:50:59 AM
 

"Why Lot?s wife died?"

"Errancy; Lot?s wife died a horrible death XE "death" with no valid explanation except that she turned around while the town was being destroyed.

According to the Bible, she was righteous and did not deserve to die because the angels XE "angels" of God themselves urged Lot to rescue her;

?With the coming of dawn, the angels XE "angels" urged Lot, saying, ?Hurry! Take your wife and your two daughters who are here, or you will be swept away when the city is punished.? (Genesis 19:15)

As they ran away from their town which was about to be destroyed by God, Lot?s wife turned around (surely a natural reaction, having heard havoc and destruction behind her). When she turned around in the Bible, she was unjustly annihilated;

?But Lot?s wife looked back and was turned into a pillar of salt? (Genesis 19:26)

Excuse; Lot?s wife was destroyed because she disobeyed the angel who said;

?Run for your lives! Don?t look back and don?t stop in the valley. Run to the hills, so that you won?t be killed.? (Genesis 19:17)

Rebuttal: This is an invalid excuse because Lot did even worse. Lot not only stopped (a direct defiance to the angel?s instructions), but also argued with them;

?But Lot answered, ?No, please don?t make us do that, sir. You have done me a great favor and saved my life. But the hills are too far away; the disaster will overtake me, and I will die before I get there. Do you see that little town? It is near enough. Let me go over there?you can see it is just a small place?and I will be safe.? (Genesis 19:18-20)

After stopping to argue with the angel, Lot was not destroyed, thus invalidating that excuse. Furthermore, Lot appears suspiciously selfish when arguing with the angel, repeatedly saying, ?so I can be safe?, rather than including his wife who was not killed yet by stating; ?so we can be safe?.

Correction: What appears as unjustified and incompetence in the Bible (a Prophet and the angels XE "angels" of God could not rescue the wife), is actually comprehended in the Quran. The Quran explains why Prophet Lot?s wife died;

?And We rescued him and his household, except his wife, who was of those who stayed behind.? (Quran 7: 83)

?Allah citeth an example for those who disbelieve: the wife of Noah XE "Noah" and the wife of Lot, who were under two of our righteous servants yet betrayed them so that they (the husbands availed them naught against Allah and it was said (unto them): Enter the Fire along with those who enter.? (Quran 66:10)

The Holy Quran explains that the fact of the matter was Lot?s wife stayed a transgressor who was destroyed among the other non-believers of Lot."

https://quranbible.org/english.htm#_Toc96948593
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on June 18, 2019, 02:11:04 AM
God/Allah saying, except for the Hereafter universe, all the other universes will end with Big Crunch:

Quran 21:104 On the day when We roll up the heavens like a scroll of books is rolled up. As We initiated the first creation, so shall We return it. It is a promise of Ours that We will do this.

Quran 39:67 They have not given God His true worth; and the whole earth is within His fist on the day of resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Be He glorified; He is much too high above what they set up.

And;

heaven is not paradise. Heaven =universe

Heavens = universes

The Qur'an offers a multi-universe model.

But it is not infinite.

Seven universes, for example.

Other universes have planets too.

Quran 65.12 Allah is the one who created seven Heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); [Allah's] command descends among them so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything.

Example "Floor of Lord" (Indallah) = afterlife universe

The fake Bible and the Christians have confused the Hereafter universe(Floor of Lord) with our universe.

And the False Bible has confused the Earth and the planets of universe of the Hereafter(Floor of Lord).

But the Qur'an tells the truth. Our universe and other Universes will be destroyed. Only the afterlife universe(Floor of Lord) will continue to live forever. And we will live not on Earth, but on planets in the Hereafter universe.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on July 14, 2019, 08:07:39 AM
"Reap what you sow?

Contradiction; Some sow wheat but reap thorns. (Jeremiah 12:13) Vs Some sow but will not reap anything. (Micah 6:15) Vs Some reap without sowing. (Matthew 25:26, Luke 19:22) Vs A man reaps what he sows. (2 Corinthians 9:6, Galatians 6:7)

Excuse; The first are materialistic sowing, thus uneven, the last is afterlife spiritual sowing, thus even.

Rebuttal: This would be acceptable albeit for the passage stating that the righteous reap what they sow in this life, hence materialistic terms;

“Behold, the righteous shall be recompensed in the earth: much more the wicked and the sinner.” (Proverbs 11:31) because (Matthew 25:26, Luke 19:22) speaks of the wicked materialistically getting more than the righteous.

Therefore, even if it is in materialistic terms, it is in contradiction to (Proverbs 11:31)

Correction: The Quran is very clear that humans get what they deserve. In an accountable fashion, God is Fair and Bountiful. People are punished for the bad and greatly rewarded for the good:

“Surely Allah does not do injustice to the weight of an atom, and if it is a good deed He multiplies it and gives from Himself a great reward.” (Quran 4:40)"

http://islamicbook.com/free/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on August 11, 2019, 04:37:06 PM
"Moses 

Name means "newborn" in ancient Egyptian.

The Bible claims that "Moses" is a Hebrew name, however those who named him weren't Hebrew. Pharaoh and his family were Egyptians. Today Egyptologists discovered the Egyptian meaning of the word "Moses"."

http://www.miracles-of-quran.com/moses_name.htm
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: huruf on August 11, 2019, 11:44:34 PM
"Moses 

Name means "newborn" in ancient Egyptian.

The Bible claims that "Moses" is a Hebrew name, however those who named him weren't Hebrew. Pharaoh and his family were Egyptians. Today Egyptologists discovered the Egyptian meaning of the word "Moses"."

http://www.miracles-of-quran.com/moses_name.htm

Mus and his people have nothing to do with ancient egypt. Musa  Arabic means blade, like in razor blade, which fits with the profet Musa: cut the crap.

Salaam
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Emre_1974tr on August 15, 2019, 04:05:46 PM
In ancient Egypt, the mark of "X" and the symbol of cross-bones in the symbol of an X was very prominent in religious contexts.

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609989.0
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Jafar on August 17, 2019, 12:28:07 AM
Moses is an Egyptian, Hebrew or Arabs Name??  :rotfl: :rotfl:

It's similar to debating whether Zavier is a Catalan, Basque or Portuguese name...
Or Lee is a Manchu, Hakka or Chinese name...

Even the name/label of Egypt, Misr, Hebrew or Arabs did not exist during Moses time, presumably if he was living around 1300-1500 BC let alone an identity with such name.

This is the political map of (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions/wikihiero/img/hiero_I6.png?19fec)(https://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions/wikihiero/img/hiero_G17.png?3741e) (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions/wikihiero/img/hiero_O49.png?dd778) empire, or latinized "Kemet Empire", (literally "Black Land Empire") at it's largest extent around 1500 BC.
Just before the "Bronze Age Collapse"...

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Egypt_NK_edit.svg/800px-Egypt_NK_edit.svg.png)

Egypt is the name given by the Greeks for Egypt (Aigyptos) commonly used after the fall of Kemet empire to the invasion of  Alexander from Macedon, which give birth to Hellenistic Empire of Aigyptos (the era of Ptolemy, Cleopatra etc as it's Pharaoh). Misr / Mizraim is a name given by the (later) Canaanite tribe people for Egypt.


Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: good logic on August 17, 2019, 03:52:25 AM
Peace.
Names have nothing to do with languages. Moses is a name of a person in all languages even future invented ones.
The problem of spelling a name or changing it a bit when translated into languages is irrelevant. Moses will be recognised in all languages as ;Moses, Mussa. Moshe....
And Egypt or Misr will be recognised as the same place regardless of languages..
Jafar the person is the "jafar,Jahfaar,...." of all languages.
GOD bless.
Peace.
Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: Jafar on August 17, 2019, 04:57:01 AM
Names have nothing to do with languages. Moses is a name of a person in all languages even future invented ones.
The problem of spelling a name or changing it a bit when translated into languages is irrelevant. Moses will be recognised in all languages as ;Moses, Mussa. Moshe....
And Egypt or Misr will be recognised as the same place regardless of languages..
Jafar the person is the "jafar,Jahfaar,...." of all languages.

Names is part of language, the "Kemetians" name for "Moses" might be different.
Who knows what he was called by Kemetians.

Jafar is my Arabic / Persian name, in today's Egyptian Arabic it will be Gafar in Turkish it will be Cafer.
My chinese friends has problems spelling my name thus they change it to "Chan".
And Chinese never call themselves as China they call their own country as "Zhung Guo". (Literally: The center Kingdom)
Thus the correct statement should Jafar in "Zhung Guo" is recognized as "Chan".

Title: Re: The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.
Post by: good logic on August 17, 2019, 09:45:18 AM
But in reality you recognise your name as Jafar or Gafar or...whichever language you happened to be born in. All the other different spellings... are translations. to the name Jafar.

Take Moses for example,  Whatever other languages call him, his identity cannot change.
 So I was agreeing with you in that it does not matter what language calls "Moses", the character at the time and his story do not change.
GOD bless you.
Peace.