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Science / History / Prophecy => Quran's Numerical Structure => Topic started by: imrankhawaja on June 12, 2017, 11:36:43 PM

Title: TWO hearts..
Post by: imrankhawaja on June 12, 2017, 11:36:43 PM
33:4 God did not make any man with two hearts in his body.

possible interpretation from my mind..

1 you cannot like and dislike a thing at the same time(purchasing occassions)
2 you cannot love two women at same time(even if u have two wives)
3 you cannot be a believer and disbeliever at same time(faith matters)

4 now i am going to interlock numbers with biology.. the best of interpretation as per my view..

why only men is addressed here ?
why not women?

the answer is becoz women when get pregant she have two hearts inside her ..

HEIGHT of literal excellency..  author use words that give multiple meanings aswell as making the message free of errors..

this section was empty so i decide to become the first one who post in it with a number sequence of two hearts.. :peace:

NOTE members are welcome to drive more interpretation from this 2 heart theory if anything comes up in their mind..
like 5th , 6th or 7th i left it for you guys  :group:

Title: Re: TWO hearts..
Post by: OP27 on November 12, 2017, 08:28:40 AM
3 hearts altogether and you get the triple darkness infinite fractal continuum
Title: Re: TWO hearts..
Post by: MissMarple77 on November 15, 2017, 03:39:35 PM
5 We have only one life. Not like the two kidneys - if one is not working anymore, there is still the other one, which fulfils its tasks.
Title: Re: TWO hearts..
Post by: good logic on November 16, 2017, 03:38:48 AM
We are TWO IN ONE each competing against the other. The latter  pulling towards desires and illusionary things, the former trying hard to cleanse the whole.
Title: Re: TWO hearts..
Post by: Prince on November 17, 2017, 06:10:09 AM
33:4 God did not make any man with two hearts in his body.

the answer is becoz women when get pregant she have two hearts inside her ..

HEIGHT of literal excellency..  author use words that give multiple meanings aswell as making the message free of errors..

this section was empty so i decide to become the first one who post in it with a number sequence of two hearts.. :peace:

So who made this man if not God:

George Lippert (1844 - August 1906), AKA "The Man with Three Legs," had three legs and two hearts. His third leg was very small and shriveled, and he could not use it. Also, his second heart stopped beating, but he continued to live for two weeks. He was born in Germany. He had three brothers and three sisters, all normal. He was also born of normal parents. He died in 1906 of tuberculosis.

http://sideshows.wikia.com/wiki/George_Lippert (http://sideshows.wikia.com/wiki/George_Lippert)

I don?t believe the verse refers literally to two hearts, or we may even need to look at the quranic word ?qalb? from a new perspective rather than just interpreting it as a heart in my opinion.


PEACE
Title: Re: TWO hearts..
Post by: good logic on November 17, 2017, 06:54:49 AM
Or this case:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/man-two-hearts-survives-double-sized-attack-1C6436801
There must be an explanation?
GOD bless.
Peace.
Title: Re: TWO hearts..
Post by: Noon waalqalami on November 17, 2017, 09:10:09 AM
Peace, it's not talking about the organ which pumps blood...

2:97 فانه so indeed he نزله descend it على on قلبك qalbika/heart (i.e. cognizant mind/persona) your
2:260 قال said بلى yes ولكن and however لىطمىن to assure قلبى qalbi/heart (i.e. cognizant mind/persona) mine
2:204 على on ما what فى in قلبه qalbihi/heart (i.e. cognizant mind/persona) his
2:283 ومن and who ىكتمها conceals it فانه so indeed he اثم detriment قلبه qalbuhu/heart (cognizant mind/persona) his
3:159 ولو and in case كنت be thou فظا rude of غلىظ strong/harsh القلب the heart
8:24 واعلموا and knows ye of ان that الله the god ىحول encompassed بىن between المر the person وقلبه and heart his
16:106 من who كفر reject بالله in the god من from بعد after اىمنه faith/trust his الا except من whom اكره compelled وقلبه and heart his
18:28 ولا and not تطع harken من whom اغفلنا made heedless we of قلبه qalbahu/heart (i.e. cognizant mind/persona) his
26:89 الا except من who اتى approached الله the god بقلب with heart سلىم sound
26:194 على on قلبك qalbika/heart (i.e. cognizant mind/persona)
28:10 لولا if not ان that ربطنا strengthened we على on قلبها qalbiha/heart (i.e. cognizant mind/persona) hers
33:4 ما not جعل made الله the god لرجل lirajulin/for man من from قلبىن qalbayni/hearts two فى in جوفه interior his
33:32 فىطمع so desired الذى the one فى in قلبه qalbihi/heart (i.e. cognizant mind/persona) his مرض illness
37:84 اذ when جا came ربه lord his بقلب with heart سلىم sound
40:35 على on كل each قلب qalbi/heart (i.e. cognizant mind/persona) متكبر who arrogant جبار tyrant
42:24 فان so if ىشا wills الله the god ىختم would seal على on قلبك qalbika/heart (i.e. cognizant mind/persona) your
45:23 وختم and seals على on/upon سمعه hearing his وقلبه and heart his
50:33 وجا and came بقلب with heart منىب penitent (one showing sorrow and regret for having done wrong)
50:37 ان indeed فى in ذلك such لذكرى the reminder لمن to who كان be له to him قلب qalbun/heart (i.e. cognizant mind/persona)
64:11 ما not اصاب strikes من from مصىبه calamity الا except باذن by permission الله the god ومن and who ىومن believed they بالله in/by the god ىهد guides قلبه heart (i.e. cognizant mind/persona) his والله and the god بكل in every شى thing علىم knower


Title: Re: TWO hearts..
Post by: Prince on November 17, 2017, 09:32:14 AM
Peace, it's not talking about the organ which pumps blood...

Just as a side note for anyone interested the idea that the heart is a pump that pumps blood is questionable and challenged and an alternative explanation is given on its function. If anyone requires further reading then read some literature by Rudolf Steiner and a book called Human Heart, Cosmic Heart by Dr. Thomas Cowan.

Could the heart be the centre of our experience rather than the brain? Why are other organs susceptible to cancer but the heart is enclosed and protected from such a thing and hence why heart cancer is super rare and even those cases are questionable. Food for thought!

PEACE
Title: Re: TWO hearts..
Post by: MissMarple77 on November 17, 2017, 03:36:58 PM
That?s something to think about,  what is the corresponding spiritual meaning, that the heart is protected from cancer.
But a hardened heart, like mentioned in the Quran, can also occur as corresponding physical disease (heart calcification). It is common knowledge that suppressed emotions can cause heart disease. So there is a link to the real physical organ.
Interestingly, that man with two hearts from Germany, it did not increase his lifespan (only 2 weeks) that he had two hearts.
Title: Re: TWO hearts..
Post by: Cerberus on November 18, 2017, 06:33:38 AM
I think this "two hearts" mean that you can only truly seek one thing ultimately. You cannot want things your way and want to be truthful at the same time. You can only seek truthfulness and only then things will lay themselves for you the way they are made to be.

Also means that there is one and only one source of truth.

"And he has not made your adopted sons your [true] sons. That is [merely] your saying by your mouths, but Allah says the truth, and He guides to the way. " (continuation of the verse you cited)
Title: Re: TWO hearts..
Post by: imrankhawaja on November 21, 2017, 06:25:56 PM
So who made this man if not God:

George Lippert (1844 - August 1906), AKA "The Man with Three Legs," had three legs and two hearts. His third leg was very small and shriveled, and he could not use it. Also, his second heart stopped beating, but he continued to live for two weeks. He was born in Germany. He had three brothers and three sisters, all normal. He was also born of normal parents. He died in 1906 of tuberculosis.

http://sideshows.wikia.com/wiki/George_Lippert (http://sideshows.wikia.com/wiki/George_Lippert)

I don?t believe the verse refers literally to two hearts, or we may even need to look at the quranic word ?qalb? from a new perspective rather than just interpreting it as a heart in my opinion.


PEACE

peace brother prince
RED you are right thats what i try to say this verse got multiple meanings metaphorical and literal in different ways..

and its interesting to know along with uniform-ness of life what we say normality there are some abnormal cases

lot of interesting events in which a kid is born with 2 heads ..
and a gender born with uni sex catagoriies exempt from what we say a pair of male and female..
lot of unisex animals like earthworm..

this part of your post is interesting keep me think for a while "his second heart stopped beating"

God bless you
Title: Re: TWO hearts..
Post by: imrankhawaja on February 12, 2019, 12:19:10 AM

George Lippert (1844 - August 1906), AKA "The Man with Three Legs," had three legs and two hearts. His third leg was very small and shriveled, and he could not use it. Also, his second heart stopped beating, but he continued to live for two weeks. He was born in Germany. He had three brothers and three sisters, all normal. He was also born of normal parents. He died in 1906 of tuberculosis.


now some people can see we can link 3:7  with multiple theories and meanings up to us .. as i pointed out in the start of post it was attractive in biology untill we see the cases out of normal paramenters...

examples 

Two heads in one kid..
Unisex features in man or women.
Three legs.
6 fingers etc...
Twins ======> 5 kids at a  time (reported) by people


in botany  also i witness two potatoes naturally joined together. sometimes two almonds in one shell.

Someone send me a picture few days ago about a women chest having two partition instead of one making it 3 altogether although it appears photo-shopped,

but we can also look at other possible/angles of those abnormalities in creation..

what if all these things happen with a imperfect birth like two bodies connected/joints.. in daily life it happen while cooking when two pieces in frying pan joint together during process of cooking.. (two hearts = two persons) together thats why other heart died after few days of birth and third leg was also not working at all. things are not that simple.tbh

so thats why in some verses interpretation evolved through better understanding of science/nature called metaphorical or mutashabihat ..