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Title: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Bender on July 12, 2016, 03:36:40 PM
Couple of days ago there was this news (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36756723).

I have absolutely no pity for this man.
Actually every time I read such news I  :yay:
Am I a psychopath?

How is it possible that these kind of entertainments are still allowed?
What do you think, are these kind of entertainments ok?
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: es on July 12, 2016, 04:29:42 PM
I think that  :yay: might be too much.
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: LastDay3 on July 12, 2016, 06:35:57 PM



Salaam/Peace be upon you, Bender, and all Friends,


=================
38-  And there is not a "dabbat" (i.e. =every "creature, including all animals") on the earth, nor a "bird" that flies with its wings,
but they are Congregations that are --(e.g. first of all, in biological/genetic make up and
some other physiological or mental aspects/instincts as well)-- similar/same as you (=amthalukum).
We did not leave anything out of the Scripture; then to their LORD they will be gathered. (=6/38)

119-  .... And the Word of your LORD has thus been issued: I will fill Hell with Jinns and Humans, all together! (=11/119)
=================

So, I think we can lawfully infer that
all "dabbat" (i.e. =every "creature, including all animals" and "birds") shall be gathered by our LORD in Paradise,
because Hell will be filled --(here in this case now =22/72 & 85/4-10 & .......)-- only with Jinns and Humans, all together,
as clearly emphasized in the above Verses.


So all those "humans" who despise or scorn or humiliate and consequently mistreat or/and torture all kinds of "animals" and "birds"
must be in deep error.     

Remain in peace/salaam.







Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: imrankhawaja on July 12, 2016, 09:13:05 PM
Couple of days ago there was this news (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36756723).

I have absolutely no pity for this man.
Actually every time I read such news I  :yay:
Am I a psychopath?

How is it possible that these kind of entertainments are still allowed?
What do you think, are these kind of entertainments ok?

they are transgressors who are corrupting the planet earth,

human being is a caretaker for plants,animals,and everything which is under the subject of our use...

but there is a tradition cock fight with cock, mangoose and sanke fight together , and people watch their show like a wrestling inn wwf

people kills birds with their guns, actors hunt the wild animals, just for fun...

now come to domestic use of animals, full day a horse/doney/mule  keeper keep him running if he get bit slow he hit him with hunter then this poor animal start running fast.. he get slow a hunter approaches him again,,, and in the end of the day he eat rubbish food , a cheap food or a garbage ...

sometimes they get out of control and unnable to walk or move or start jumping and people around him shout horse get crazy , what a shame?

lot more things we are humans but we forget our purpose .. we humans are very proud on us, we call somebody dog and other person feels it awkward, and shame, if you look what is the nature of Dog , dog just live on two meals a day and protect his master without caring his own life, dog get killed saving his master, dog keep wait for his master when he look at his master he licks his toes,

on the other hand people cheat with people for money relationships, what a shame... but they want more respect than dog, do they really deserve it,,,?
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: imrankhawaja on July 12, 2016, 09:31:40 PM
i still remeber a event 12 years ago, i get my first salary in pakistan and i went to bird shop, there i see lot of birds was in cage and i ask from shop keeper to release some of them and surprisingly he give me nice deal , and i release some of them , i was wishing at that time that if i had lot of money i released them all ,,

 i wonder why people catch useless birds ?

five years ago before coming to uk there was one bird who i release and he look at me while making his final flight he was on a wire of something and he/she keep looking me and guys i feeeeel really wonderful, that  thing give me happiness i dnt now why,

and this country uk i love it there is no bird in the cage, but still i feel story didnt finsih here so i sometimes go to park for pigeons who really love to eat at parks and i feel shoo good when they eat the food what i buy for them.. last week i had a dayjavu when a bird was very near to me and keep looking me,,

i still wonder how can somebody be so cruel like bender posted, how many bulls they killed there is no record... but how many people get killed there is a record and people will give him saluting and honours and his death in the news, becoz he died as a player... what a shame...
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Timotheus on July 13, 2016, 12:14:51 AM
peace,

i despise animal abuse, at this stage i work in a shearing shed, and many people in the idustry are wicked and transgressing. i have learnt to treat the sheep with love and care and affection, praise god, even when they test my patience, by the will of god. i try my best towards them, and to honour god, and remember that they are submitting creatures. i try to speak gently and with all kindness to them, and often mention our lord, and say peace to them and tell them i mean them no harm, and that neither of us want to be there, but both of us will, god willing, be out soon. i dont know if they understand, but they seem to, they quiet right down. everyone else says 'your a machine' or things like that, because it looks so easy for me, but even when i tell them they dont understand.

other people seem to struggle so much with them, and get verbally or physicaly abusive, i almost feel like seeing how they like it sometimes, but i do not wish to transgress.

today i told someone penning them up who was getting angry and kicking them because they would not move 'be carefull,  you just have to be gentle, they are pregnant mothers!!'

they replied 'hahaha theyre going to die anyway!!'

i had to restrain myself and seek refuge with god, i felt like making it even.

yet when i pen up, i ask for gods help, and they all just run in, i hardly have to even shoo them. praise god. he has taught me so much, so much patience and restraint, and steadfastness in adversity working with sheep.

it makes me sad what some things people do to animals, and blame them.

i always remember the account of balam i think, in the previous scriptures.  he starts beating the stubborn ass, and finaly it speaks and asks him why hes doing it and said i cannot move, an angel of the lord is standing in my way or something similar, it has helped me dealing with many stubborn farm animals, remembering that god is doing it, not the animal out of spite.
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: huruf on July 13, 2016, 12:36:39 AM
Well that man died fighting an animal who is himself a fighter and a fighter to deaht.

All those who criticese and scorn this man on his death behave like a scum, are worth absolutely nothing, they eat th meat of animal that die without the slightest oppotunity to fight their killer and nobody cares whether they are treated like kings while alive, as brave bulls are treated like kings, or whether they lead a live that is not worth living like so may animals people consume and as if any animal under men's hands had the slightet opportunity to live and die as he liked and noot as it is imposed on it. The brave bull is the best treated animal on earth while alive and that is being endangered by the ignorant who want to abolish bullfighting.

Brave bulls in freedom are fighters they fight to death with other bulls and are wouded many times and were it not for the veterinaries they would die fromtheir wounds and slowly.

May God protect bulls from those who want to protect them and know nothign of what they speak about and may God give rest to a man that dares fighting a powerful and serious animal who is also a fighter and who died doing it.
 
Brave bulls have no use for pity, they have use for respect. They are nnoble animal not whinners. In fact nno aimal is a whinner, only men (or women) are whinners.

Those who bury people in insults because of bullfighting and are happy because a bullfighter dies gored or otherwise killed by a bull, well I hope they get poisoned for eating animals that they do not care how they came onto heir plate or are otherwise and anonymously misused,like millions of chikens who lead lives which from beginnng to end ar a calvary.

May bulls and bullfighters who die for being who they are rest in God's glory.

If, as the accusers say, people were sadists who enjoyed seeing an animal suffering they would certainly have much better choices and far less dangerous animals than a brave bull, and no need even to spend money on it, just at home you can torture to your satisfaction. But for sure such people will not be bullfights lovers. Fighting and torturing re opposite poles.

Salaam
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Timotheus on July 13, 2016, 12:42:58 AM
huruf, for you are your deeds and for me are mine. anyone who supports such nonsense bloodsport is No brother of mine. peace, i seek not the ignorant
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Timotheus on July 13, 2016, 01:36:44 AM
they are transgressors who are corrupting the planet earth,

human being is a caretaker for plants,animals,and everything which is under the subject of our use...

but there is a tradition cock fight with cock, mangoose and sanke fight together , and people watch their show like a wrestling inn wwf

people kills birds with their guns, actors hunt the wild animals, just for fun...

now come to domestic use of animals, full day a horse/doney/mule  keeper keep him running if he get bit slow he hit him with hunter then this poor animal start running fast.. he get slow a hunter approaches him again,,, and in the end of the day he eat rubbish food , a cheap food or a garbage ...

sometimes they get out of control and unnable to walk or move or start jumping and people around him shout horse get crazy , what a shame?

lot more things we are humans but we forget our purpose .. we humans are very proud on us, we call somebody dog and other person feels it awkward, and shame, if you look what is the nature of Dog , dog just live on two meals a day and protect his master without caring his own life, dog get killed saving his master, dog keep wait for his master when he look at his master he licks his toes,

on the other hand people cheat with people for money relationships, what a shame... but they want more respect than dog, do they really deserve it,,,?

peace,

some other members recently started talking about cats, and i am a cat person,

but today at work, i considered one of our sheep dogs.

it just sits there looking at you, with longing in its eyes, it just wants to serve, its eagaerly awaiting instruction, it never tires, it never complains, it just goes and goes, and still it waits, watching and listening, to jump at the first command, without hessitation. i admit i almost cried, mashaAllah i saved it for later lol. and i said what am i, compared to this dog..

i asked my lord

make me as faithful servant as this dog
how i long to serve like this dog.

funny enough, alhamdullilah his name is tim.

i had just been asking last night for a confirmation from my lord, praise and glory to him, what a confirmation.

i have hope that i, too, can serve with such dedication as that dog named tim.

strong against the sheep, yet humble and obedient to his master, what an animal. what a privellage would it be to be. and what an honour.

peace
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: huruf on July 13, 2016, 12:31:11 PM
Dogs are a wonderful aya for any worshipper. Dogs never doubt, nevr get impatient, never get proud or susceptible. I have one and I call him Canci?n (Song) because he is like a song on four legs.

Every species of animal is an aya, dogs are a wonderful aya and a most precious gift of God to people.

Salaam
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: imrankhawaja on July 13, 2016, 12:57:07 PM
once i was kid and i buy some chickens small one and my cat eat them all while i was sleeping i feel like cry and i was about to hit mu cat and suddenly my mom come and told me a hadith not to hit a cat lol

and twn she provide me reason she said it ur fault you should not bring chickens here its the food of cat and after that i never buy chicken but they are shoo cute i still love chickens but in farm

about dog i was always afraid from dogs still i m lol so never had experience

peace


Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Comrox on July 13, 2016, 10:13:00 PM
I agree with what LastDay3 has said.

Animals have their own place in this world as do we. We can eat them, but that doesn't mean that we can abuse them, either through entertainment or through slaughter practices. 

Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Timotheus on July 14, 2016, 01:41:06 AM
I agree with what LastDay3 has said.

Animals have their own place in this world as do we. We can eat them, but that doesn't mean that we can abuse them, either through entertainment or through slaughter practices. 



Peace, well said.
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Bender on July 14, 2016, 03:34:35 PM
I think that  :yay: might be too much.

I think you are right  :-[
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Bender on July 14, 2016, 03:39:03 PM


Salaam/Peace be upon you, Bender, and all Friends,


=================
38-  And there is not a "dabbat" (i.e. =every "creature, including all animals") on the earth, nor a "bird" that flies with its wings,
but they are Congregations that are --(e.g. first of all, in biological/genetic make up and
some other physiological or mental aspects/instincts as well)-- similar/same as you (=amthalukum).
We did not leave anything out of the Scripture; then to their LORD they will be gathered. (=6/38)

119-  .... And the Word of your LORD has thus been issued: I will fill Hell with Jinns and Humans, all together! (=11/119)
=================

So, I think we can lawfully infer that
all "dabbat" (i.e. =every "creature, including all animals" and "birds") shall be gathered by our LORD in Paradise,
because Hell will be filled --(here in this case now =22/72 & 85/4-10 & .......)-- only with Jinns and Humans, all together,
as clearly emphasized in the above Verses.


So all those "humans" who despise or scorn or humiliate and consequently mistreat or/and torture all kinds of "animals" and "birds"
must be in deep error.     

Remain in peace/salaam.

Salaam LastDay3,

Thanks, I understand this post of you much better than some of your other posts  ;)
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: es on July 14, 2016, 03:39:34 PM
I think you are right  :-[

Indeed.  :yes

I hope you've atoned!
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Bender on July 14, 2016, 03:41:20 PM
Imran, Timotheus, Huruf and Comrox thanks for your inputs and thoughts.

 :peace:
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: huruf on July 14, 2016, 04:19:34 PM
xxx sory wrong post
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: imrankhawaja on July 14, 2016, 04:29:21 PM
Imran, Timotheus, Huruf and Comrox thanks for your inputs and thoughts.

 :peace:

you always  :welcome:
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: imrankhawaja on July 14, 2016, 04:41:17 PM
xxx sory wrong post

i remeber a dailouge of van dam..

wrong bet from lion heart.. lol
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: huruf on July 15, 2016, 01:44:24 AM
Entertainment...
Sex is entertainment, dance is entertainment, writing is entertainment, music is entertainment, porn is entertainment

Everything in this age is entertainment or can be described as entertainment, not because it is, but because we do not conceive that people could be voluntarily in something  and pay for it if it is not for entertaiment.

The age of entertainment, the age of hypocrisy.

In almost all the civilised and less civilised world, bovines are exclusively female, males do not live beyond very early infancy, they are killed off all the time, so in fact there are no adult exemplaries of the species bull.

And those holy, yes, holier than thou who live in that world, pretend to punish and insult and judge others because they spend labour and money in keeing adult animals, males and females, which do not give milk, which do not give meat, which do not give anything, and which on top of it are no meek lambs or chicken, but able animals which defend their self and territory. Try milking a brave cow, see what happens. But in spite of not giving milk or anything, those animals are kept into adulthood because they are important and those who keep them love the animal.

If those hypocrites who criticise bullfighting did keep those animals into adulhood, male and female, and spend their money in having them die of old age, then they would not be hypocrites. But as it is they are hypocrites holier than thou would-bes. Where are all those adult bulls of Europe or North America. Just the odd one to freeze the semen for cows and that is it. And they pretend that they defend the bulls?

I order to defend somethign, that something must at least exist. Those who criticise bullfighting, I have tried to make them realise that if they want bulls to grow free royally money, big money must be spent, so why they do not start a campaign to collect money for  parks where the bulls and cows would die of old age?

No answer. Never anything other than disparaging honest people who really love bulls. Jusgements  by the ton of how eveil, how cruel... But do somethig for the bulls, that never. Is not that hypocrisy? The only answer is that they are so good, so correct so human, so holy, so loving of animals, whereas people who love bulls are criminals and murderers because they spend on them.

The kind of disgusting unffettered heinous talk about a man who died not in a slaughter house killing animals massively and safely without danger for himself for the scum that need to eat and only care about animals when they can parade their holiness, but who died because he fought face to face with a mighty animal, who does not fear fighting, either men or other animals, that man is turned into evilness itself.

The heinous talk has had the opposite effect and in fact has shown the true face of bulls "defenders". They do not give a damn about bulls, hey know nothing about bulls, they could not care less about bulls, but they know all there is to know about hypocrisy and about judging by their own standard which is think the worst of anybody so you can feel like you are spotless.

Why they do not spend the same amount of energy and time defending chicken, which lead lives not endurable by any living creature by the millions and millions, why they do not defend pigs, equally or other animals who live hellish life but which live and are killed in the shadows and without shocking anybody. That does not pay in show, what gives them importance and satisfaction is destroying the work and love of honest work and spendign of people who love bulls, which, even though they are eaten, they are so few that it cannot weight in the production of meat. Those who weight in the production of meat die unacknowledged, very young, sometimes with a realtively good life, but sometimes with ahellish life of intensive cattle raising.

Bulls do not need holier than thow people parading their holyness at their expenses. If anybody is really interestd in bulls for the bulls continuing existing, contribute to creat such holding where bulls can live like they live now in their wide expanses with everything taken care of for them, and keep them till they die of old age. Any other thing is proud ignorance or worse, pure hypocrisy.

And to the one who do not considers me his brothr because I am so evil, of course I am not your brother, Timotheus, I cannot, because I distrust people who do not respect animals but love themselves  appearing as he ultimate animal lovers. Love animals as much as you want but please leave bulls alone, you do not understand them and you do not deserve them. Very few people deserve them. They are a negation of cowardice, of double speech, of parading. They are a mighty aya.

And that is what antibullfighting is about. Not against cruelty, but against the presence of anything that remindns us that if we are true, we may have to die for who we are.

Bulls are teachers, but very few people want to hear anything of what they teach. People today only know about ENTERTAINMENT.

LONG LIVE BRAVE BULLS AND COWS THAT DO NOT LET THEMSELVES BE MILKED, NOR ANYBODY NEAR THEIR YOUNG ONES,

and down with hypocrisy.

Bullfighters there are the good, the bad and the in between, but the worst bullfighter, at least has to confront a bull face to face, that is something none of those whinners about cruelty would be ready to do, and they know it and since they know it they must destroy what they cannot bring under their own smallness.

This forum is also Entertainment.

Salaam




Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Timotheus on July 15, 2016, 02:06:03 AM
Entertainment...
Sex is entertainment, dance is entertainment, writing is entertainment, music is entertainment, porn is entertainment

Everything in this age is entertainment or can be described as entertainment, not because it is, but because we do not conceive that people could be voluntarily in something  and pay for it if it is not for entertaiment.

The age of entertainment, the age of hypocrisy.

In almost all the civilised and less civilised world, bovines are exclusively female, males do not live beyond very early infancy, they are killed off all the time, so in fact there are no adult exemplaries of the species bull.

And those holy, yes, holier than thou who live in that world, pretend to punish and insult and judge others because they spend labour and money in keeing adult animals, males and females, which do not give milk, which do not give meat, which do not give anything, and which on top of it are no meek lambs or chicken, but able animals which defend their self and territory. Try milking a brave cow, see what happens. But in spite of not giving milk or anything, those animals are kept into adulthood because they are important and those who keep them love the animal.

If those hypocrites who criticise bullfighting did keep those animals into adulhood, male and female, and spend their money in having them die of old age, then they would not be hypocrites. But as it is they are hypocrites holier than thou would-bes. Where are all those adult bulls of Europe or North America. Just the odd one to freeze the semen for cows and that is it. And they pretend that they defend the bulls?

I order to defend somethign, that something must at least exist. Those who criticise bullfighting, I have tried to make them realise that if they want bulls to grow free royally money, big money must be spent, so why they do not start a campaign to collect money for  parks where the bulls and cows would die of old age?

No answer. Never anything other than disparaging honest people who really love bulls. Jusgements  by the ton of how eveil, how cruel... But do somethig for the bulls, that never. Is not that hypocrisy? The only answer is that they are so good, so correct so human, so holy, so loving of animals, whereas people who love bulls are criminals and murderers because they spend on them.

The kind of disgusting unffettered heinous talk about a man who died not in a slaughter house killing animals massively and safely without danger for himself for the scum that need to eat and only care about animals when they can parade their holiness, but who died because he fought face to face with a mighty animal, who does not fear fighting, either men or other animals, that man is turned into evilness itself.

The heinous talk has had the opposite effect and in fact has shown the true face of bulls "defenders". They do not give a damn about bulls, hey know nothing about bulls, they could not care less about bulls, but they know all there is to know about hypocrisy and about judging by their own standard which is think the worst of anybody so you can feel like you are spotless.

Why they do not spend the same amount of energy and time defending chicken, which lead lives not endurable by any living creature by the millions and millions, why they do not defend pigs, equally or other animals who live hellish life but which live and are killed in the shadows and without shocking anybody. That does not pay in show, what gives them importance and satisfaction is destroying the work and love of honest work and spendign of people who love bulls, which, even though they are eaten, they are so few that it cannot weight in the production of meat. Those who weight in the production of meat die unacknowledged, very young, sometimes with a realtively good life, but sometimes with ahellish life of intensive cattle raising.

Bulls do not need holier than thow people parading their holyness at their expenses. If anybody is really interestd in bulls for the bulls continuing existing, contribute to creat such holding where bulls can live like they live now in their wide expanses with everything taken care of for them, and keep them till they die of old age. Any other thing is proud ignorance or worse, pure hypocrisy.

And to the one who do not considers me his brothr because I am so evil, of course I am not your brother, Timotheus, I cannot, because I distrust people who do not respect animals but love themselves  appearing as he ultimate animal lovers. Love animals as much as you want but please leave bulls alone, you do not understand them and you do not deserve them. Very few people deserve them. They are a negation of cowardice, of double speech, of parading. They are a mighty aya.

And that is what antibullfighting is about. Not against cruelty, but against the presence of anything that remindns us that if we are true, we may have to die for who we are.

Bulls are teachers, but very few people want to hear anything of what they teach. People today only know about ENTERTAINMENT.

LONG LIVE BRAVE BULLS AND COWS THAT DO NOT LET THEMSELVES BE MILKED, NOR ANYBODY NEAR THEIR YOUNG ONES,

and down with hypocrisy.

Bullfighters there are the good, the bad and the in between, but the worst bullfighter, at least has to confront a bull face to face, that is something none of those whinners about cruelty would be ready to do, and they know it and since they know it they must destroy what they cannot bring under their own smallness.

This forum is also Entertainment.

Salaam






You are completely ignorant.

Leave bulls alone???????

as if i am the one putting them in cages and bullfighting rings, and all this other rubbish? i despise it all! i despise anyone who supports it! including you!

you do not understand them?????

I actualy used to have a bull, and i started to have great respect for him. I did what i could do to improve his life, i used to scratch the part of his head he couldnt between his horns, i loved and admired him. You know nothing about me.

'why they do not defend pigs'

I do my best to defend all animals, including my mothers pig. If it were up to me i would take it to the bush and set it free, but its not..

"
Bullfighters there are the good, the bad and the in between, but the worst bullfighter, at least has to confront a bull face to face, that is something none of those whinners about cruelty would be ready to do, and they know it and since they know it they must destroy what they cannot bring under their own smallness.
"

By Allah i have indeed!. By Allah! i would chase the bull away through the gate, when he got Big so that everyone else was afraid to!
By Allah, i am not lying

you know nothing but mere assumptions, and i despise you for your support of senseless bloodsport.

Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: huruf on July 15, 2016, 03:48:20 AM
Thank God you you are insulting me and not making me compliments. Those would be hard to take.


Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Bender on July 15, 2016, 03:55:59 AM
Huruf, this thread was not about bulls, but about all animals who are used (in my opinion) in a wrong way.

Do you have the same opinion about other "entertainments" where animals are involved, are they also ok according to you?
If not then what what is in your opinion the difference.
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Timotheus on July 15, 2016, 04:03:21 AM
Thank God you you are insulting me and not making me compliments. Those would be hard to take.




Peace,

i am not insulting you, I am stating facts.

You do not know me, hence you are ignorant of me.

If you judge me, do not judge me based on your assumptions of me, but rather on my deeds and what i say, judging, as best you can by what God has revealed.
As i have tried to do, as best i can, by what God has revealed.

Because..

 those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed, then those, they are the defiantly disobedient.

Peace
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: huruf on July 15, 2016, 04:24:54 AM
I am not interested in you in the least, I only reacted to your attitude as you expresed it towards me as if I had at any time pretended to be your brother which obviously I did not.

Other than that my remarks have been general. Being antibullfight is a very run of the mill brand, so you are one of such a big bunch... I do not care about you particularly or see in you anything of particular interest that would single you out.

That you despise me or not leaves me cold, and indeed, I rather have you dispise me than make me compliments. By that I stand. So thank you for pleasing me on that count.



Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: imrankhawaja on July 15, 2016, 12:25:27 PM
Huruf, this thread was not about bulls, but about all animals who are used (in my opinion) in a wrong way.

Do you have the same opinion about other "entertainments" where animals are involved, are they also ok according to you?
If not then what what is in your opinion the difference.

exactly...  and i also gave some examples how people mistreat  their animals,, i remember once a cow gave milk and person who was getting milk spilled out his bucket becoz cow was responsible she hit that bucket with leg so, in angry mode he start hitting cow with rod of wood..

is it that we expect from the one who provides us provisions for life..

and we are here talking about killing with slow death hitting arrows of iron in their head.. errrrrr what a shame...?
most of the cases its already confirm bull get defeated... one way match for millions entertainment... full of shit business...
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: huruf on July 15, 2016, 01:48:41 PM
Huruf, this thread was not about bulls, but about all animals who are used (in my opinion) in a wrong way.

Do you have the same opinion about other "entertainments" where animals are involved, are they also ok according to you?
If not then what what is in your opinion the difference.

Like what?


Salaam
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: huruf on July 15, 2016, 02:17:14 PM
exactly...  and i also gave some examples how people mistreat  their animals,, i remember once a cow gave milk and person who was getting milk spilled out his bucket becoz cow was responsible she hit that bucket with leg so, in angry mode he start hitting cow with rod of wood..

is it that we expect from the one who provides us provisions for life..

and we are here talking about killing with slow death hitting arrows of iron in their head.. errrrrr what a shame...?
most of the cases its already confirm bull get defeated... one way match for millions entertainment... full of shit business...

Long live nosense! Anything goes. Just get somme more iron arrows in I don't know whose head. May be you will find oil.

If you keep trying you might match the nazis who were the people who best treated animals and nature. They were also very full of themselves about it.



 

Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: imrankhawaja on July 15, 2016, 04:25:31 PM
Long live nosense! Anything goes. Just get somme more iron arrows in I don't know whose head. May be you will find oil.

If you keep trying you might match the nazis who were the people who best treated animals and nature. They were also very full of themselves about it.

huruf are you a bull fighter..lol :hmm
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Timotheus on July 16, 2016, 01:58:29 AM
Peace huruf.

Falsehood will, without doubt be extinguished, and Truth will, without doubt, be established.

Who here is full of themselves? produce your proof if you are truthfull!

because, as it stands, in my understanding, the only one here full of arogance and pride is in fact you.
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: huruf on July 16, 2016, 02:03:48 AM
Thank you. Keep it up.

Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Man of Faith on July 19, 2016, 09:46:58 AM
Chill out.
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: Man of Faith on July 19, 2016, 09:53:01 AM
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This forum is also Entertainment

I suppose it depends on your purpose of being here. I am not here for entertainment but only for information exchange, and that is not entertainment.

Be well
Amenuel
Title: Re: Animals as entertainment
Post by: imrankhawaja on July 19, 2016, 02:41:34 PM
entertainment is how you feel things, killing civilians in war is entertainment for some people,,, but its dosent mean its entertainment,,