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Title: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: LiberalBelief on January 30, 2010, 06:59:34 AM
Hello everyone!

I'm in my mid 40's and I'm new here. This is my first post, and would like to share my story.

I was (and may be still partly am) a Christian. I wish to confess to everyone here that used to loath Islam. I had been brain-washed that the religion is bad and cruel and all the media-made stuff. You know what I mean.

But, I don't know why I had this sudden urge of interest in Islam for the past few months and started looking for more info on the net. Alright, God in Islam is called Allah, and, hey, He's the same God as the Christians and the Jews, so who really cares. He's GOD. Very same GOD. And, if you would allow, I would call Him as GOD as I can understand better.

A little about me: I was a very devout Catholic. I used to attend mass everyday. And, when I was about 19, in spite of having attended mass everyday, I started having minor doubts about God. Does he really exist? Well, if he does exist, then we should be able to talk to him. Alright, I experimented. I took the words of Jesus as the key: "If you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you can tell this mountain to cast itself into the sea." (I've never cared to remember the verse number and all that. So please don't ask for references.)

So, with Jesus' "key of faith", I sat quietly on my bed one night, looking at the picture of the Holy Family at the end of the bed, believing fully that God exists, I said "Hello, God". And I heard in my mind immediately, "Hello there." I was kinda perplexed, about to loose that "faith", about to doubt that I was talking to myself, I hung on believing fully that God was really talking to me and I continued the conversation. Believe it or not, I was REALLY talking to God. I've continued doing this for years and years.

If anyone would doubt if was it really God I was talking to, let me tell you this experience. When I was in college I used to often sit by the college reservoir at night, like 1 or 2 AM, that it would be all quiet so I could talk to God in peace. One night, sitting on the grass with my knees up, after I finished my chatting with God and was about to open my eyes to get up, the Voice said "Keep your eyes closed. Don't open till I tell you." I asked why and the Voice said "Just wait". OK, if God says so then I'll wait. Not very long after that, a matter of less than a minute the Voice then told me to open my eyes.

Between my legs was the end of a cobra's tail. He came in from my left and went under my leg to my right side. I sat still and waited till he went further away. I smiled and thanked God immediately. If God did not stopped me from opening my eyes, I would have opened my eyes and moved by body while the cobra was like a foot away from me! Imagine what would have had happened!

Yes, THERE IS GOD. And anyone can talk to him, like a friend, like a father. Trust me.

Alright, that was my experience with God. Let's get on with my experience with Islam.

OK, I started having questions about Islam. We all know that ALL religions are meant to teach people to be good. With this logic, then, how can Islam teach people to go kill others? This can't be true.

I started searching into the "teachings" of Islam. At the time I had no idea of the differences between the Koran and the Hadiths and so forth. I just took them all as teachings. Then I found contradicting stuff. I was confused. But logic tells me that many teachings are more logical than others. I still didn't know the differences. Slowly I began to understand that there are collectively two kinds of "Books" -- the Koran and the Hadiths. I still couldn't understand much anyway.

I've always wanted to have a circumcision, not because of becoming a Muslim or anything, but all about cleanliness, and I had it done the first week of this year, and it was done by a Muslim "doctor". (I know there's a term for him but I don't really know what that is). I don't know why, after the circ, I suddenly had this urge of wanting to become a Muslim. I thought that it might have been a fantasy because I had the circ done by a Muslim man and that was it. But somehow the urge got stronger.

The "call" was so strong that one night, one week after the circ, I took the courage and said the Shahadah all by myself. I've professed my faith. And, man, I kinda feel like new! I didn't care if anyone was there as witness or not. God heard me, that's more than enough.

Still, my doubts in conflicting Islamic teachings were still with me. I was thinking there's no way that God can order something so cruel, but I couldn't find anything to support my thoughts. It had been a week after saying the Shahadah and I was still in doubt.

So, I knelt down and talked to God that if He wants me to be a Muslim, please let me find information about Islam that support my thoughts that God is kind and merciful, and end all that conflicting teachings.

Trust me, God wants me to be a Muslim. The FIRST CLICK on Google took me to THIS SITE. And now I understand more of the problems. No more conflicting ideas.

But I probably won't be a serious practicing Muslim anyway. I will do whatever is possible, avoid whatever is possible. But I will pray. I will praise God. And I will do it MY way. God is everywhere. I don't think it's right that I have to turn to some direction to talk to God. I will pray to Him in the language I understand (certainly not Arabic) because God is certainly not language-challenged. I will pray in whatever gesture I want. Nothing rituals. And I will still live by any good teachings of any other religion, any person (like the Prayer of St. Francis or even that of Buddha). I probably won't go on the pilgrimage. God is HERE, why go elsewhere?

In the end, I may not turn out to be a Muslim, but rather a believer of goodness.

A believer who believes in GOD ALONE.
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: MUNZIR ALI on January 30, 2010, 08:37:46 AM
Hello everyone!

I'm in my mid 40's and I'm new here. This is my first post, and would like to share my story.

I was (and may be still partly am) a Christian. I wish to confess to everyone here that used to loath Islam. I had been brain-washed that the religion is bad and cruel and all the media-made stuff. You know what I mean.

But, I don't know why I had this sudden urge of interest in Islam for the past few months and started looking for more info on the net. Alright, God in Islam is called Allah, and, hey, He's the same God as the Christians and the Jews, so who really cares. He's GOD. Very same GOD. And, if you would allow, I would call Him as GOD as I can understand better.

A little about me: I was a very devout Catholic. I used to attend mass everyday. And, when I was about 19, in spite of having attended mass everyday, I started having minor doubts about God. Does he really exist? Well, if he does exist, then we should be able to talk to him. Alright, I experimented. I took the words of Jesus as the key: "If you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you can tell this mountain to cast itself into the sea." (I've never cared to remember the verse number and all that. So please don't ask for references.)

So, with Jesus' "key of faith", I sat quietly on my bed one night, looking at the picture of the Holy Family at the end of the bed, believing fully that God exists, I said "Hello, God". And I heard in my mind immediately, "Hello there." I was kinda perplexed, about to loose that "faith", about to doubt that I was talking to myself, I hung on believing fully that God was really talking to me and I continued the conversation. Believe it or not, I was REALLY talking to God. I've continued doing this for years and years.

If anyone would doubt if was it really God I was talking to, let me tell you this experience. When I was in college I used to often sit by the college reservoir at night, like 1 or 2 AM, that it would be all quiet so I could talk to God in peace. One night, sitting on the grass with my knees up, after I finished my chatting with God and was about to open my eyes to get up, the Voice said "Keep your eyes closed. Don't open till I tell you." I asked why and the Voice said "Just wait". OK, if God says so then I'll wait. Not very long after that, a matter of less than a minute the Voice then told me to open my eyes.

Between my legs was the end of a cobra's tail. He came in from my left and went under my leg to my right side. I sat still and waited till he went further away. I smiled and thanked God immediately. If God did not stopped me from opening my eyes, I would have opened my eyes and moved by body while the cobra was like a foot away from me! Imagine what would have had happened!

Yes, THERE IS GOD. And anyone can talk to him, like a friend, like a father. Trust me.

Alright, that was my experience with God. Let's get on with my experience with Islam.

OK, I started having questions about Islam. We all know that ALL religions are meant to teach people to be good. With this logic, then, how can Islam teach people to go kill others? This can't be true.

I started searching into the "teachings" of Islam. At the time I had no idea of the differences between the Koran and the Hadiths and so forth. I just took them all as teachings. Then I found contradicting stuff. I was confused. But logic tells me that many teachings are more logical than others. I still didn't know the differences. Slowly I began to understand that there are collectively two kinds of "Books" -- the Koran and the Hadiths. I still couldn't understand much anyway.

I've always wanted to have a circumcision, not because of becoming a Muslim or anything, but all about cleanliness, and I had it done the first week of this year, and it was done by a Muslim "doctor". (I know there's a term for him but I don't really know what that is). I don't know why, after the circ, I suddenly had this urge of wanting to become a Muslim. I thought that it might have been a fantasy because I had the circ done by a Muslim man and that was it. But somehow the urge got stronger.

The "call" was so strong that one night, one week after the circ, I took the courage and said the Shahadah all by myself. I've professed my faith. And, man, I kinda feel like new! I didn't care if anyone was there as witness or not. God heard me, that's more than enough.

Still, my doubts in conflicting Islamic teachings were still with me. I was thinking there's no way that God can order something so cruel, but I couldn't find anything to support my thoughts. It had been a week after saying the Shahadah and I was still in doubt.

So, I knelt down and talked to God that if He wants me to be a Muslim, please let me find information about Islam that support my thoughts that God is kind and merciful, and end all that conflicting teachings.

Trust me, God wants me to be a Muslim. The FIRST CLICK on Google took me to THIS SITE. And now I understand more of the problems. No more conflicting ideas.

But I probably won't be a serious practicing Muslim anyway. I will do whatever is possible, avoid whatever is possible. But I will pray. I will praise God. And I will do it MY way. God is everywhere. I don't think it's right that I have to turn to some direction to talk to God. I will pray to Him in the language I understand (certainly not Arabic) because God is certainly not language-challenged. I will pray in whatever gesture I want. Nothing rituals. And I will still live by any good teachings of any other religion, any person (like the Prayer of St. Francis or even that of Buddha). I probably won't go on the pilgrimage. God is HERE, why go elsewhere?

In the end, I may not turn out to be a Muslim, but rather a believer of goodness.

A believer who believes in GOD ALONE.
:welcome: to the forum.
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: MUNZIR ALI on January 30, 2010, 08:44:51 AM
Hello everyone!

I'm in my mid 40's and I'm new here. This is my first post, and would like to share my story.


There are a lot of different ages in the forum and that's one thing that makes this forum so Loveable. I'm a teenager.  :group:




But, I don't know why I had this sudden urge of interest in Islam for the past few months and started looking for more info on the net. Alright, God in Islam is called Allah, and, hey, He's the same God as the Christians and the Jews, so who really cares. He's GOD. Very same GOD. And, if you would allow, I would call Him as GOD as I can understand better.


As far as I know Allah in Arabic means "the GOD" so it's Ok to call him God or Allah. Doesn't make a difference. To Him belong the best names.  ;)
Hello everyone!




If anyone would doubt if was it really God I was talking to, let me tell you this experience. When I was in college I used to often sit by the college reservoir at night, like 1 or 2 AM, that it would be all quiet so I could talk to God in peace. One night, sitting on the grass with my knees up, after I finished my chatting with God and was about to open my eyes to get up, the Voice said "Keep your eyes closed. Don't open till I tell you." I asked why and the Voice said "Just wait". OK, if God says so then I'll wait. Not very long after that, a matter of less than a minute the Voice then told me to open my eyes.

Between my legs was the end of a cobra's tail. He came in from my left and went under my leg to my right side. I sat still and waited till he went further away. I smiled and thanked God immediately. If God did not stopped me from opening my eyes, I would have opened my eyes and moved by body while the cobra was like a foot away from me! Imagine what would have had happened!


Amazing. That's a miracle. GOD is great.  :pr
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: Rev.John on January 30, 2010, 09:41:34 AM
Quite a story. I myself am a Christian minister, but have found that there is no difference between what I call God-alone Christians and Quran-alone Muslims. The word "muslim" just means "submitter" (to God), therefore we are all Muslims. I reject much of the added parts of the new testament just as I reject hadith. If we all learn that there is just ONE God (not three) and only one God then I believe many of the problems between the religions (and denominations of the same religions) will disappear. But anyway, welcome to the forum.  :welcome:
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: Jafar on January 30, 2010, 02:18:33 PM
Quite a story. I myself am a Christian minister, but have found that there is no difference between what I call God-alone Christians and Quran-alone Muslims. The word "muslim" just means "submitter" (to God), therefore we are all Muslims. I reject much of the added parts of the new testament just as I reject hadith. If we all learn that there is just ONE God (not three) and only one God then I believe many of the problems between the religions (and denominations of the same religions) will disappear. But anyway, welcome to the forum.  :welcome:

It should be written "God Alone Muslims" then..

Whatever 'religion / sect' we are now, it is a temporary dressing and human labelling in this world.
We're all born into this world as muslim / submitter to God, we never ask this and that when we're being born into this world.
We just trust Him, submit ourselves to Him and be born into this world..

It's recommended that we should also died muslim / submitting to God.
When our time has come, we shall just trust Him that everything will be alright..

"God takes the souls at the time of their death, and those that die not during their sleep; then He withholds those on whom He has passed the decree of death and sends the others back till an appointed term; most surely there are signs in this for a people who reflect."
(Quran 39:42)

To "LiberalBelief" welcome to this forum...

Salam / Peace
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: LiberalBelief on January 30, 2010, 08:34:08 PM
Thanks for all the welcome!

I'm here in SE Asia so my timing will probably be kinda "out of sync" with the others.

I kinda like Jafar's "God Alone Muslim" and Rev John's "God-Alone Christian" description though. Let us all be "submitters" and not be branded by any organized religion. Let us bring peace and love to this earth through our good deeds. I believe that this is the best way to praise God. Prayers would be just useless babbles if we don't live by the Words of God.

I kinda feel at ease now when I have to tell my wife that I'm now a Muslim. (Right now I'm in another part of the country). I can now explain to her that a "Muslim" is actually a "Submitter", and not whatever that has been "mis-labeled". I can be a GAM and she can be a GAC (God-Alone Muslim and God-Alone Christian, respectively) living happily together as one loving family.

Thanks again everyone. If any of my postings make you feel uncomfortable in any way please let me know so as to be able to avoid such in the future.

Cheers!

LB

PS: I should have said "Salam", right?  ;)
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: abdalquran on January 31, 2010, 12:16:26 AM
In the end, I may not turn out to be a Muslim, but rather a believer of goodness.

A believer who believes in GOD ALONE.


A 'Muslim' as the term is most widely used in the world is a cultural being. He eats, prays, dresses, is named, talks in a certain modality. This modality isn't divine but is rather a composite of a few different elements. A 'Muslim' in this sense of the word isn't one who automatically gets salvation.

A believer of goodness (by which 'belief' here automatically results in actions) is what you need to be in order to be saved.

Be of any religion but be good.
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: san on January 31, 2010, 03:19:56 AM
 :welcome:


Yes, THERE IS GOD. And anyone can talk to him, like a friend, like a father. Trust me.


Yes, THERE IS LOVE. And anyone can talk to Love, like a lover.  :)


 :handshake:  :group:
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: SarahY on January 31, 2010, 05:27:27 AM
after reading your story i felt like saying "Hi God" lol

welcome to the forum :)

peace
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: LiberalBelief on January 31, 2010, 05:44:49 AM
Thanks for all the welcome and the various guides. I have yet to learn a lot to be called a Muslim. But I'll slowly learn it.


after reading your story i felt like saying "Hi God" lol

welcome to the forum :)

peace

Yeah Sarah. You should do it. And you'll experience the greatest miracles. All it takes is "doubtless faith".

"There is no try. Do or do not." -- Yoda
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: Rev.John on January 31, 2010, 09:59:42 AM
One of the best prayers of thanks I ever heard was from a teenager who just simply said to God "Thanks Mate"
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: Joe Betik on January 31, 2010, 03:08:34 PM
salam liberalbrother,

welcome to the forum, bro!

that has always been my belief; communicate with God and God will communicate with you. He is the reference since He is our creator.

nothing compares with your personal experiences indeed, for it is the truth. anybody can say anything, but for me, your experiences have addressed many issues regarding God. your experiences have proven to you, among others (in my opinion);
a. as you have said, God exists;
b. people can talk to God (but whether God will talk to one is another thing), like what you have done;
c. God is always listening (He has answered your greetings, right?);
d. God is near (we can whisper to Him);
e. God is still giving guidance to people (don't open your eyes just yet, right?); etc.

perhaps i may say here; when you comprehend who God is (or perhaps even who you are), then religion is irrelevant. when you have a correct relationship with God (and with the purity of heart too), then you are a servant of God. and we should let God determine whether we are good enough to be moslems by His account.

i am happy for you indeed. alhamdulillah.

mohammed noh
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: AlFajr on January 31, 2010, 04:18:58 PM
One of the best prayers of thanks I ever heard was from a teenager who just simply said to God "Thanks Mate"
;D
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: Zidane on January 31, 2010, 06:24:56 PM
 :welcome: LiberalBelief!

Amazing story! I've been trying to talk to God many many times too - although I don't "hear" his reply (yet), but I "understand" His communication through the happiness, wisdom and understandings of things.


But I probably won't be a serious practicing Muslim anyway. I will do whatever is possible, avoid whatever is possible. But I will pray. I will praise God. And I will do it MY way. God is everywhere. I don't think it's right that I have to turn to some direction to talk to God. I will pray to Him in the language I understand (certainly not Arabic) because God is certainly not language-challenged. I will pray in whatever gesture I want. Nothing rituals. And I will still live by any good teachings of any other religion, any person (like the Prayer of St. Francis or even that of Buddha). I probably won't go on the pilgrimage. God is HERE, why go elsewhere?

In the end, I may not turn out to be a Muslim, but rather a believer of goodness.

A believer who believes in GOD ALONE.

Very wise statement.

Yes, God is not limited by his laws of time and "dimension"/space - so He's everywhere.

I'm sure you'll see many many interpretations of many many issues here from many "truth seekers" and yourself - about Salaat, Zakat, pilgrimage, rituals, "where was muhammad", etc.

Consider what solves the equation - going well with His natural laws and brings wisdom.

Don't worry about the common understanding of "practicing" is rather just rituals and culture - instead of practicing the core of Giving Thanks and Praise to God alone and do Good through maintain the covenant and do good to the society (aqemus-salat wa atuz-zakat).

The real "practice" is maintaining/holding your various Salat/Bond with God of being a good person - that is, follow His commands and glorifying GOD ALONE and do not transgress - for example: always speak the truth, be fair in trade and judgement, be patient, be sincere, do not speak gossip, use good words/language, avoid intoxicants, be faithful in wedlock, do not do adultery, help the poor/needy/wayfarer, do good for your society, etc.

This is related to the "Salat" issue you can see throughout the forum, you can read http://www.free-minds.org/salat_anon and see the Salat = Bond/Covenant/Contract interpretation. (Let's not discuss that here and get this thread off-topic)
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: theNabster on February 02, 2010, 10:34:19 AM
Peace LiberalBelief,
Thank you for sharing...
Your snake story brought tears to my eyes.
May The God bless you...
Peace
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: MUNZIR ALI on February 05, 2010, 05:48:01 AM
One of the best prayers of thanks I ever heard was from a teenager who just simply said to God "Thanks Mate"
:bravo:
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: FindingRightPath on November 10, 2014, 09:23:20 AM
Salaam,

You experience was inspirational. Thanks for sharing.  :)
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: Zack on November 10, 2014, 10:09:13 PM
A 4 year old post but still inspires! I wonder what the journey of "Liberalbelief" (and Rev John) has been since 2010?
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: Man of Faith on November 11, 2014, 01:17:16 AM
Faith be upon you,

I find it cool that Rev. John refers to himself as 'Christian Minister', but participated on a Qur'an forum.

However, with my latest "realizations" it appears that "Muslim" simply refers to a person with faith, so it could be any person with faith, it is not specified, although one must be faithful to the right cause, i.e. what is called 'Allah' in Arabic (and Elohim in Hebrew/Aramaic although they basically mean the same linguistically). It should be "b'ism'Allah", with the spirit of Allah.

Many people who are convicted to other groups would be insulted if you would call them "Muslim", but if they knew what it really means then it would not be so insulting. However, finally you have a way of knowing what you should aim towards in a translation of "Muslim" into English. A problem is that "Believer" is inaccurate and is not honest to this phenomenon of being 'united' (iman/amen) with Allah/"God".

But check what 'Longman Advanced American Dictionary says about 'faithful'.

faith‧ful 1 / ˈfeɪθfəl / adjective
1              remaining loyal to a person, belief, political party etc. and continuing to support them :

and check faith:

faith / feɪθ / S3 W2 noun
1 TRUST/​BELIEF IN SOMEBODY/​SOMETHING [ uncountable ]              a strong feeling of trust or confidence in someone or something :               

The problem is that people associate "belief" into the picture while "iman/amen" does not translate or is defined as "belief" but rather according to this dictionary definition of faith and faithful, although you attribute the wrong word too since "salam" refers to faith while "iman/amen" refers to "unity".

Belief is synonymous with thinking, uncertainty and that it not what the 'Rabb' is asking for, but seeks confidence. There is a huge misrepresentation of what the 'Rabb' wills here.

I humorously translated it as 'faithling', since I have not really found a good translation of making a proper name of 'faith', while Arabic easily assigns a 'meem' in front of the word and suffixes is with the "objectifier" 'nun'. But I refuse to define myself as "Believer" for I know it is inaccurate and shows weak faith.

We have faithful one, two words. Faithful to what? The 'Rabb'.



Do you want to know what Arabic words means 'belief'? I know which one, henceforth.

خ و ف kwaf does not mean fear but it means believe/think, or rather uncertainty as you can see below. It is another misconception in "Islam".

13:12 He is the One who shows you the lightning, giving you fear uncertainty and hope. And He establishes the heavy clouds.

2:38 We said: ?Descend from it all of you, so when the guidance comes from Me, then whoever follows My guidance, no uncertainty will be upon them, nor will they grieve.?

Note: You can also say they have no reason to believe anything, i.e. belief does not exist if you are able to perceive. This means belief are for those of weak faith.

2:112 No; whoever himself is faithful to God, while doing good, he will have his recompense with his Lord. There will be no uncertainty, nor will they grieve.

As you notice, my previous preaching about doing good and having faith in "God" is the truth from your 'Rabb' and my 'Rabb'. But if you insist on continuing to be stubborn in interpreting 'salateh' and some other words as taken from a Pagan mindset then there will be contemplation for you, verily.

2:114 needs serious reinterpretation, I leave it, but it is not because my argument is weak. Besides if I use my own interpretation skill and it looks very different from the scribes and scholars then you may still not have faith in what I say regardless. I keep my own translations to threads I keep my mind focused at.

2:155 And We will test you with uncertainty and hunger, and a shortage in money and lives and fruits. And give good news to those who are patient.

You must consider that the testing is through making some people question their faith and the weak lose their faith.

2:182 If anyone fears uncertain (about) harm or sin from his beneficiary, then reconcile what is between them. God is Forgiving, Merciful.

The important thing with خ و ف (kwaf) is that is reflects uncertainty. That is an important message with this. It is better if one is not خ و ف.

2:229 The divorce is allowed twice. So, either they remain together equitably, or they part ways with goodness. And it is not lawful for you to take back anything you have given them unless you are uncertain that they will not uphold the boundaries of God. So if you are uncertain that they will not uphold the boundaries of God, then there is no sin upon them for what is given back. These are the boundaries of God so do not transgress them. And whoever shall transgress the boundaries of God, then these are the wicked.

Honestly; a person with faith does not have this kind of fear that traditionalism wants to imply.

I tried to find about belief and I found uncertainty, how interesting.

3:175 It is only the devil trying to create uncertainty for you, so do not choose their uncertainty and be uncertain if they are united ones.
3:176 And do not be saddened by those who rush into delusion. They will not harm God in the least. God does not wish to make for them any share in the Hereafter, and they will have a painful retribution.

It is sad that I have to reinterpret the whole passage because it is wrong. I wish it did not have to be like this.

Have faith
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: LiberalBelief on December 26, 2014, 06:52:49 AM
A 4 year old post but still inspires! I wonder what the journey of "Liberalbelief" (and Rev John) has been since 2010?

I'm still a LiberalBelief. I've learned the ritual 'salat' now and praying whenever I can. And, yes, I find peace whenever I do that.

And still living a 'normal life', hurting no one and bringing smiles to everyone (when they deserve it).
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: martha1031 on December 31, 2014, 03:21:50 PM
Hello and welcome,

I also recently started calling myself a Muslim, but now a Submitter because English is my language. I'm 43, so in my 40's too. What has helped me in dealing with the conflict I see among people due to religion is reminding myself that if deeds or words are hateful then they have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Anyone who judges, hates, or kills is not practicing true religion. In fact, they are following Satan, and they are using words tied to true religion in order to deceive those that are unsure or frail. Through other self-learning I've done, I learned that certain parts of Earth have special energy somehow tied to heaven so praying in a certain direction makes sense to me, though prior to becoming a Submitter in October of this (almost last) year, I would just pray wherever I was at in whatever direction I was facing. Prayer has been the healing power in my life and I'm grateful for the way it has shaped me. I grew up Catholic by the way.

Martha
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: syyiam on December 31, 2014, 08:01:45 PM
hello martha,

Peace,
As you are I've been lurking in this forum in out just to search what the part of the below verses of Quran :

from fm translations:

69:0 In the name of God, the Almighty, the Merciful.
69:1 The reality.
69:2 What is the reality?

And yes I'm still struggling as English not to mention Arabic is my biggest weaknesses and sometimes I experienced brain freeze that render myself not knowing what to do. I just hope that God guides me before the ultimatum comes knocking...

70:5 So be patient with a good patience.
70:6 They see it as far away.
70:7 And We see it as near.

So God Please Help Us...
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: good logic on December 31, 2014, 11:44:19 PM
Peace Syyiam.

69:13-18 gives you  your answer on what will be the " reality"?

Here are the sequence of events of that "reality":
69:13
When the horn is blown once.
فَإِذا نُفِخَ فِى الصّورِ نَفخَةٌ وٰحِدَةٌ
69:14
The earth and the mountains will be carried off and crushed; utterly crushed.
وَحُمِلَتِ الأَرضُ وَالجِبالُ فَدُكَّتا دَكَّةً وٰحِدَةً
69:15
That is the day when the inevitable event will come to pass.
فَيَومَئِذٍ وَقَعَتِ الواقِعَةُ
69:16
The heaven will crack, and fall apart.
وَانشَقَّتِ السَّماءُ فَهِىَ يَومَئِذٍ واهِيَةٌ
69:17
The angels will be all around, and Your Lord's dominion will then encompass eight (universes).*
وَالمَلَكُ عَلىٰ أَرجائِها وَيَحمِلُ عَرشَ رَبِّكَ فَوقَهُم يَومَئِذٍ ثَمٰنِيَةٌ

( In the Hereafter, an eighth universe will be created that will be even farther than our seventh universe; it will be called ``Hell'') (89:23).

69:18
On that day, you will be exposed, nothing of you can be hidden.
يَومَئِذٍ تُعرَضونَ لا تَخفىٰ مِنكُم خافِيَةٌ


On that day,happy will be the one who is given his/her record in the "right hand"and sad and remorseful will be the one who is given his/her record in the left hand?

GOD bless you.
Peace.
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: syyiam on January 01, 2015, 05:46:20 AM
peace good logic,

Thanks for replying,Yes that the verses that I refer by "ultimatum" in this very life or when death come near or sudden, not meant to tell my life story but deep down inside I feel so lonely...just trying and trying to talk to god and ask for forgiveness and provisions since so much sins during the ignorance days...dunno whether this is the retribution or a test but feeling more like retribution which I'm slowly failing to doom..almost everything I do and plan failed and that's resulting to my brain freeze out and dunno what to do..feeling my life is so low and useless not be able to contribute to good deeds that mention in the Quran. When I read the post by some of forumers here than i start wishing that I have the understanding and the bravery of you guys and start wondering how you guys even manage to do all the research and yet live daily life day after day which I start to fail big time, hmm enough already, i'm sorry to waste your time by these off topic pathethic story of my life..meantime I'll try asking again and again from God until he provides the inspiration/provisions or ultimately die trying.

peace..may god help us all. by the way sorry for the bad english.. :&
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: LiberalBelief on July 05, 2019, 11:36:07 AM
It's been years since I, the OP, have visited this forum.

Yes, I'm still liberal. And I still pray as much as I could. Trying to be a 'decent' muslim.

After all these years, the best part is this: I was able to draw my wife 'back' into Islam! Her previous hubby was a Muslim and she had taken up Islam while they were together. After they separated, she left Islam.

I met her in 2010 and we wedded in 2014. Yes, during the wedding, she sworn in to accept Islam, but didn't take things seriously. (We live in different part of the country).

Now that I was able to urge her to 'get back' into believing in Allah, she seems to be accepting slowly.

Few days ago we were traveling to another town in search of supplies for the business. While we were on the way, we prayed in the car and asked that Allah will let us find the supplies we wanted.

I was driving towards our planned destination, a very familiar route. Suddenly I took a wrong turn, got into the wrong road, and headed elsewhere. I know where the road was heading to and then said to my wife, "Alright, let's get there. Allah has some tricks up his sleeve."

When we arrived at the 'unplanned' destination, we were able to find our supplies at a much, much, much lower price. My wife was so surprised and then said to me, "Allah is great!" I was so happy that Allah lead us there. And even more happy that her faith in Allah has strengthened.

If not a miracle, what can it be!
Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: Jafar on July 14, 2019, 10:26:50 AM
Yes, I'm still liberal. And I still pray as much as I could. Trying to be a 'decent' muslim.

Good for you.. whatever label that you put on yourselves or everyone else put on you doesn't matter.

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When we arrived at the 'unplanned' destination, we were able to find our supplies at a much, much, much lower price. My wife was so surprised and then said to me, "Allah is great!" I was so happy that Allah lead us there. And even more happy that her faith in Allah has strengthened.

If not a miracle, what can it be!

Miracle is a normality... normality is miracle.. it merely dependent on one perception.
ASK and it shall be given, SEEK and you shall find.

Title: Re: I'm a new, self-professed "Believer"
Post by: Lost on August 10, 2019, 05:09:22 AM
Schizophrenic or liar...