Seven Heavens and Six Days in Quran

[salman378]

What are Seven Heavens and Six Days in Quran?

I made a video on Quran's Science, particularly on the topics of Cosmology and Evolution that you can view here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuq23pklsx4

In it I prove without doubt, how Seven Heavens in Quran are actually Seven bodies of Classical Antiquity, 'The Sun', 'The Moon', 'Mercury', 'Venus', 'Mars', 'Jupiter' and 'Saturn' which are visible through naked eyes. All seven bodies visible through naked eyes are the above. If you search Google for 'Seven Bodies of Classical Antiquity' you'll know what I am referring to. How the word 'lowest' for 'ad-dunia' is mistranslated where it should mean 'worldly' instead of 'lowest'. How the words 'Ardhi Mislahunna' have been mistranslated to mean Seven Earths even when the word 'Ardhi' is singular. It actually means 'Earth is just like Planets'. How 6 periods for Universe creation and 2 periods for Earth creation are accurate to the ratio of 4.54 billion years (Earth's age) / 13.8 billion years (Universe's age) matching perfectly with Quranic ratio of 2/6.

How the 4 periods for the age of 'Plate Tectonics', loosely translated as Mountain is 9 billion years. How the other bodies of Solar System are 2 periods as well, meaning 4.5 to 4.6 billion years. How the Cosmological accounts of Muslims in the past is wrong to mean Big Bang and how it is actually Solar System Creation story. How Evolution is true, even the Adamic Evolution and how it doesn't disrupt the general understanding of God creating Adam's Soul in Heaven. I am currently making part 2 of the Video and am exited to share it as well once it is done.

I tried to be as intellectually honest and unbiased as possible in the video. Please view the Video and tell me how you find it. I left no stones unturned. But even with all my efforts, I am just a feeble human being. I want to join hands with people who are well versed with Arabic. Since I have a Science background and an analytical brain, I think a marriage of these two would indeed help a lot in my cause which is mentioned below.

I think, the problem stems from outdated translations, exegesises and interpretations. Think about it, the first translation of Quran in English by a Muslim was done in 1910. After that we see some translations of Quran which carry a similar theme and without much creative dismantling of the message of God. Translations or Exegesises of Quran are currently more like words of popular people, which you either accept or reject. When was Truth about popular opinion of People or labels? Shouldn't truth be a free inquiry? Should we fear God alone or the popular view among Muslims?

What I don't like about the state of affairs of Muslims is our reliance on Schools of Thoughts than our own Self-Knowledge and original Sources of Islam. Especially now, when a lot of Science we've discovered and a lot of knowledge we have gained, the text in Quran translations remain the same, ambiguous, unfulfilling or unapproachable for the most part.

But nothing is lost! I am trying to bring together people who can work with me on this great cause and do it with me. My idea is to create a wiki/open-source one translation and exegesis of Quran that is open with debate format for skeptics, believers, philosophers, theologians, epistemologists, psychologists, economists, legalists, and scientists. Everyone has a say, the only thing is he/she has to prove why his/her translation is more accurate/updated/legit/simple/clear/scientific/true. And this way, the work on Quran is also never closed but remains open for all and is continuous.

Shouldn't this be the case from the day one? I mean, Quran is not like a Harry Potter novel, which if once translated by someone, should become stale, unchallenged and uncreative with repetitive thoughts and hopeless attitudes. Quran is not a work of fiction. It is a book of Wisdom, Guidance, Lessons, Science, Miracles, Realizations and so many meaningful things. A single human is beyond the capacity to translate it accurately. We all have to put our efforts now that we're in 2022.

So if you're with me on this cause, lets join hands together and form a body that helps us in our mission. This might be the biggest service to Islam you can undergo instead of siding with Sectarian forces in Religion which are dividing it. In the same Token, I would like to broadcast my message to free-minds.org, if they want, we can begin this noble cause on their own platform. I am a Software Business Entrepreneur and Alhamdulillah successful as well. Maybe you use one of my products as well. More about me later when we get to a certain direction together. So I have skillsets to bring this vision to reality due to my entrepreneur skills in Full Stack Software Development.

So instead of distributing one PDF through free-minds.org, we will now have a complete debatable platform for Quran's One Translation, that can be challenged 'verse by verse', 'word by word' and the most convincing of the arguments will win, instead of the so-called 'popular opinion among Muslims'. Blind following blind both end up in a ditch. If Muslims were so advanced with what we have now, we wouldn't be having sites like free-minds.org There is definitely a problem here and I believe the intellectuals on this website as well as superb people behind free-minds.org can really help. Peace!

[Emre_1974tr]

no souls, no evolution.

You have pagan beliefs.

You are one of the most distant people in the world from the teachings of the Quran.

[Emre_1974tr]

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611412.0

[Emre_1974tr]

and

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611687.0

[salman378]

no souls, no evolution.

You have pagan beliefs.

You are one of the most distant people in the world from the teachings of the Quran.

Explain? So believing in Evolution makes a person most distant from Quran? Remember, you are at free-minds.org and they wouldn't like such blatant accusation. In the video I specifically mentioned Soul. Why you assume that whoever believes in Evolution doesn't believe in Soul. How are you free thinking Muslim? I think you are just another traditional trash talker who has personal opinions about other people's beliefs without looking his own shortcomings.

How dare you call me having Pagan beliefs. What proofs do you have that Evolution didn't happen? Did your tailbone, weak backbone, gut, appendix, wisdom teeth, palmar reflect, goosbumps, man boobs, blind spots come from Heaven. And what purpose did your red blood cells, DNA, gut, liver and lungs had in the Heven in which you neither needed to defecate or procreate? All bodily functions are Earthly. Did you come here on Earth on a Spaceship. Don't we all have Souls going back to Heaven or Hell instead of our Physical body when we die? So why wouldn't it make more sense that we evolved here and were paired by our souls in the Heaven, just as it happened for Adam A.S.

How are you any different from a Hindu who believes in multiple Gods having thousands of hands or a head of a monkey if you're not to scrutinize religion and make your own mind about the truth. You believe in God without any scrutiny, hence your belief is blind and not rational. We are told in Quran to use our 'Aqal' not believe just what everyone thinks about something. I have to answer my God, not you. I fear him, not the likes you that fears the popular opinions of People.

You didn't even care to view the video. It's not about Evolution alone. It's telling about how your belief that Seven Heaven means Seven Multiverse etc. is bogus. But since you're bogus yourself and don't have thinking capacity and are clouded by baises, preconceived notions, dogmas and superstition, you wouldn't understand a word. So I don't blame you.

Have some respect for other people or go home. This isn't a place where people judge other people. They judge arguments, not people. Next time refrain from telling someone they have pagan beliefs as this might jeopardize your own convictions to Islam.

[Emre_1974tr]

Just as I predicted, you are a bigot who robotically repeats your own assumptions without even reading what is written.

As I said, you are one of the most distant people to the Quran.

[Emre_1974tr]

Again;

Nobody has got ghost according to Quran

Unlike the traditional Islamic doctrine which is under the influence of sects and hadith fabrications, in the real Islamic doctrine of the Quran people have NO ghosts/ souls/ spirits. People do NOT have a divine component, a soul, a spirit nor a ghost.

Everything created in the universe is material, physical and real, NOT an illusion. (for example the first man Adam was made from clay element and the jinn was made from fire element)

Heaven and Hell are NOT mental delusions. They are "physical" places created in another universe.

Unfortunately, terms such as soul- spirit (an immortal divine component, a ghost that can exist on its own without the body even after death) have succeed to enter Islam due to wrong translations -which are made under the influence of hadith fabrications- and Islamic mysticism (sufism). But in the original text of the Quran (Arabic version), they are NOT available.
In the Quran, people have "nafs", which is the equivalent of "life energy", "ego", "character". People are born, they die and they will be "physically" recreated in the Hereafter:

Does the human being think that We will not gather his bones? Indeed, We were able to make his fingertips (The Resurrection, 75: 3-4)

As also can be seen in the verses, people do NOT have souls/ spirits, they only have "nefs", which dies together with the bodily functions. And as again can be understood from the verses "most" of the people will be recreated in the Judgment Day. We use the word "most" because there are some exceptions. The Quran gives the examples of very meritorious people, such as martyrs or prophets and on the other edge some deadly sinners, such as the Pharaoh who committed outrage to his people.

These exceptional people have already started to reap what they have sown. They are either rewarded in Heaven (physically) or punished in Hell (physically).

Examples to the righteous who go to Heaven immediately after their death:

· Do not count that those who are killed in the sake of God are dead. No, they are alive at their Lord receiving provisions. Happy with what God has granted them from His favor, and they rejoice for those who have yet to follow them. There is no fear over them nor do they grieve. (The Family of Imran, 3: 169-170)

· A man came running from the farthest part of the city, saying: "O my people, follow the messengers. Follow those who do not ask you for any wage, and are guided. Why should I not serve the One who initiated me, and to Him is your ultimate return? Shall I take gods besides Him? If the Gracious intends any harm for me, their intercession cannot help me in the least, nor can they save me. Then I would be clearly astray. I have acknowledged your Lord, so listen to me! It was said, "Enter Paradise." He said "Oh, how I wish my people only knew of what my Lord has forgiven me, and made me of the honored ones."We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the sky; for there was no need to send them down. For all it took was one scream, whereupon they were stilled. (36:20-29)

Example to the disbelievers who committed "deadly" sins and tyranny:

· So God protected him from the evil of what they schemed, while the people of Pharaoh have incurred the worst retribution. The fire, which they will be exposed to morning and evening, and on the day when the moment is established: "Admit the people of Pharaoh into the most severe of the retribution." (The Believer, 40: 45-46)

And the following verses refer to the common/ordinary people, possibly the majority of the disbelievers:

· The horn will be blown, whereupon they will rise from the graves rushing towards their Lord. They will say, "Woe to us. Who has resurrected us from our resting place? This is what the Gracious had promised. The messengers were truthful!" (Ya sin, 36: 51-52)

In the Quran the word "Spirit" only refers to the "Holy Ghost/Spirit" and to the messages It brought. For example:

We gave Moses the book, and after him, We sent the messengers. Later We gave Jesus son of Mary the clear proofs, and We supported Him with the Holy Spirit. Is it that every time a messenger comes to you with what your minds do not desire, you become arrogant? A group of them you deny, and a group of them you kill! (2:87)

Such messengers, We have preferred some to others; some of them talked to God, and He raised some of them in ranks, and We gave Jesus son of Mary the proofs and We supported him with the Holy Spirit. Had God wished, the people after them would not have fought after the proofs had come to them, but they disputed, some of them acknowledged and some of them did not appreciate. Had God wished they would not have fought, but God does whatever He wishes. (2:253)

God said, "O Jesus son of Mary, recall My blessings upon you and your mother that I supported you with the Holy Spirit; you spoke to the people in the cradle and in old age; and I taught you the book and the wisdom, and the Torah, and the Injeel; and you would create from clay the shape of a bird, then blow into it and it becomes a bird by My leave; and you heal the blind and the leper by My leave; and you brought out the dead by My leave. I have restrained the Children of Israel from you, that you came to them with proofs; but those who rejected amongst them said, "This is an obvious magic!" (5:110)

He sends down the angels with the Spirit by His command upon whom He wishes of His servants: "That you shall warn that there is no god but I, so be aware of Me." (16:2)

They ask you concerning the Spirit. Say, "The Spirit is from the command of my Lord, and the knowledge you were given was but very little." (17:85)
It was sent down with the trusted Spirit. (26:193)

Possessor of the highest ranks, the One with the Throne. He sends the Spirit with His command upon whom He wills from His servants, so that they may warn of the day of Summoning. (40:15)

You will not find any people who acknowledge God and the Last day befriending those who oppose God and His messenger, even if they were their parents, or their children, or their siblings, or their tribe. For these, He decrees trust into their hearts, and supports them with a Spirit from Him, and He admits them into paradises with rivers flowing beneath, wherein they will abide. God is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him. These are the party of God. Most assuredly, the party of God are the winners. (58:22)

The day when the Spirit and the angels stand in line, none will speak unless the Gracious permits him and he speaks what is true. (78:38)

Some dangers of thinking that people have spirits/ souls:

- Having a belief that people have spirits often leads up to the sanctification of the humans. It leads people to associate himself / herself with God.

- It also contributes to building up a strong belief of spiritual evolution. As a result of this false belief, in order to evolve spiritually, people praise suffering and pain. When they encounter a disastrous situation, instead of getting out of it, they welcome it and take it as a reward. However, according to the Quran, the bad things that come to us are either to test us or a result of our sins, our own malignancy.

- Spiritualists regard life as a school where we, as students, learn and mature. These people maintain that suffering / pain is a must for spiritual evolution. Thus, it turns the evil into hidden heroes having a special (key) role in the spiritual evolution process. Those who can read between the lines can easily realize that it glorifies the evil (even Satan). Also spiritualists
tolerate the immoral behaviors of the ones who are not spiritually evolved (!)

- Belief in the spirits opens the door to reincarnation, which means that we will be different creatures (different gender, different personality, different appearance etc.) in our other lives (!) In other words, it means that a person that dies is gone forever, which is actually a very materialistic point of view again if you read between the lines.

- Some spiritualists think that death is something positive as spirit confined to the physical body will be set free and unite with God and become one. This deviant view also praises suicides.

- People, who believe that people have spirits, mostly swap the belief for the Judgment Day with reincarnation and thus, they reject the belief in reward and punishment in the afterlife and eliminate Heaven and Hell, attributing symbolic meanings to both. In addition, they adopt ascetic lifestyles and scorn the beauties, provisions God gives us (in this world and in the other world).

- People who believe in the spirits are more likely to be cheated by the jinns.

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1- Spirit is revelation,

2- holy spirit (the angel messenger conveying the message, revelation angel)

3- and revelation book (Quran).

Spirit= revelation.

Let's give examples.

1- Revelation
Quran [15:29] "So when I perfect him, and blow of My Spirit in him, you shall fall prostrate to him."

2- Revelation Angel (Cebrail).
Quran 19:17. Thus, she kept herself in seclusion from people. Then We sent to her Our spirit, and it appeared before her in the form of a perfect man.

3- Revelation Book/Quran
Quran 42:52 And thus We have revealed to you an inspiration of Our command. You did not know what is the Book or [what is] faith, but We have made it a light by which We guide whom We will of Our servants. And indeed, [O Muhammad], you guide to a straight path -

spirit = revelation.
And basic verses in our body like Adam:

Quran 30:30So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created [all] people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.

We are obliged to direct the truth through the verses inside

Emre_1974tr


Salaam

Emre_1974tr

[Emre_1974tr]

 HEAVEN IS NOT PARADISE IT IS UNIVERSE

Quran 51:22 In the heaven is your provision, and what you are promised. (Paradise and hell are both ready and outside the world, in the sky)

The prophets living in Paradise will be summoned to the court as witnesses on the Day of Judgment

Quran 77:11 And when the messengers are gathered.

heaven is not paradise. Heaven =universe
Heavens = universes

The Qur'an offers a multi-universe model.

But it is not infinite.

Seven universes, for example.

Other universes have planets too.

65.12 Allah is the one who created seven Heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); [Allah's] command descends among them so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything.

Example "Floor of Lord" (Indallah) = afterlife universe
Except for the Hereafter universe, all the other universes will end with big crunch.

Quran 21:104 On the day when We roll up the heavens like a scroll of books is rolled up. As We initiated the first creation, so shall We return it. It is a promise of Ours that We will do this.

Quran 39:67 They have not given God His true worth; and the whole earth is within His fist on the day of resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Be He glorified; He is much too high above what they set up.

Quran: A man came running from the farthest part of the city, saying: "O my people, follow the messengers. Follow those who do not ask you for any wage, and are guided. Why should I not serve the One who initiated me, and to Him is your ultimate return? Shall I take gods besides Him? If the Gracious intends any harm for me, their intercession cannot help me in the least, nor can they save me. Then I would be clearly astray. I have acknowledged your Lord, so listen to me! It was said, "Enter Paradise." He said "Oh, how I wish my people only knew of what my Lord has forgiven me, and made me of the honored ones."We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the sky; for there was no need to send them down. For all it took was one scream, whereupon they were stilled. (36:20-29)

Quran 19:56 And recall in the Book, Enoch; he was a man of truth, a prophet.
19:57 And We raised him to a high place.

Quran 3:55 For God said: "O Jesus, I will terminate your life, and raise you to Me, and cleanse you of those who have rejected, and make those who have followed you above those who have rejected until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, all of you,so I will judge between you in what it was that you disputed."

Prophets and very good peoples in Paradise now. They were created in Paradise (floor of Lord/other universe) without waiting for the Hour.

But, Other people will wait for the Resurrection for re-creation.

The Qur'an says that a group of exception people are already living in Paradise.

And it even tells us that some of them are talking about the world's inhabitants. They say "they(World peoples) will come to us later". However, it is difficult to see them for you because the English translations of the Qur'an do not provide complete sentences.

Likewise, the verses of the Lord's Floor are also mentioned, but you cannot see it again in English translations. Because, unfortunately, those under the influence of traditional interpretation make translations in their own understanding.

Yes, according to the Qur'an there are already people living in Paradise.

And that's where Christians believe that Jesus is in paradise.

In the false Gospels, the event was described incorrectly, so you could not see the painting until today.

Jesus and all other messengers/ prophets live in paradise now.


Quran 3:169 Do not count that those who are killed in the sake of God are dead. No, they are alive at their Lord receiving provisions.

3:170 Happy with what God has granted them from His grace, and they rejoice in those who have yet to follow after them. There is no fear upon them nor do they grieve.

5:17 Ingrates indeed are those who have said, "God is the Messiah the son of Mary." Say, "Who has any power against God if He had wanted to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, and his mother, and all who are on earth!" To God is the sovereignty of heavens and earth and all that is in-between; He creates what He pleases. God is capable of all things. (Jesus and his mother living in other universe, Like other prophets...)


Quran 84:8 He will then receive an easy reckoning.
84:9 He will return to his family in joy! (The person who is called from Paradise to the day of judgment will return to Paradise again with joy)

53:13 Indeed, he saw him in another descent.
53:14 At the ultimate point.
53:15 Next to the eternal Paradise.
(Even when the prophet Muhammad lived in the world, he was taken to visit the universe of the Hereafter/ Floor of Lord)

56:7 You will be in three groupings.
56:8 So those on the right; who will be from those on the right?
56:9 Those on the left; who will be from those on the left?
56:10 And those foremost, who will be from those foremost?
(8th verse about peple who after the apocalyptic blessing will enter the paradise, 9th verse about who will enter hell, and the 10th verse talking about the already pioneering group living in Paradise. Thus, the three classes mentioned in verse 7 are completed)

19:93 When all there is in the heavens and the earth will but come to the Gracious as servants.

19:56 Recall in the book Enoch; he was truthful, a prophet.
19:57 We raised him to a high place.
(Enoch is living in Paradise now)

And they(other universes) have got creatures:

Quran 42:29"And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and of whatever living creatures (daabbah) He has spread forth in both. And He has the power to gather them together whenever he pleases"

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As is known, the Qur'an describes how everything was created in pairs, that is, in more than one number:

Yasin
36: Praise be to the One who has created all pairs from what the earth sprouts out and from themselves, and from what they do not know.

Zariyat
49: And We created everything in pairs, so that you may take counsel.

In this context; Since the universe is also a created servant, it should not be unique and only one. All created beings are paired. After the Apocalypse, only the "Floor of the Lord", that is, the Universes of the Hereafter, will remain, but he will still be living with those in more than one universe (the verses emphasize that the "heavens of the hereafter" and the "earths" will exist forever).

In short; These verses also offer another, albeit indirect, explanation of the creation of more than one universe.

Only God is unique. It is the case that the servants created by Allah have spouses (same or opposite), that is, more than one of them.

These verses provide yet another proof that there is more than one number of planets and stars as well as universes.

Emre_1974tr

[Emre_1974tr]

I hope you will start reading what is written from now on and learn the truth or you will continue with your dishonesty and evil.

May you also read the Quran and turn to the verses of the Quran.

Peace

[salman378]

I hope you will start reading what is written from now on and learn the truth or you will continue with your dishonesty and evil.

May you also read the Quran and turn to the verses of the Quran.

Peace

You have a different topic than mine. I am discussing something else. Why not you see the whole video and tell me flaws in it? That would be appreciated much!

Here's the link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuq23pklsx4

Furthermore, explain this verse if you don't believe we have souls.

then He proportioned him and breathed into him of His Spirit, and He gave you hearing and sight(s) and burning hearts; little do you give thanks. (Quran 32:9)

[salman378]

Again;

Nobody has got ghost according to Quran

Explain this verse according to your understanding of there being no Soul.

then He proportioned him and breathed into him of His Spirit, and He gave youpl hearing and sight(s) and burning hearts; little do you give thanks. (Quran 32:9)

[salman378]

Again;

Nobody has got ghost according to Quran


Emre_1974tr

Explain this if you believe there are no Souls.

then He proportioned him and breathed into him of His Spirit, and He gave you hearing and sight(s) and burning hearts; little do you give thanks. (Quran 32:9)

[jkhan]

no souls, no evolution.

You have pagan beliefs.

You are one of the most distant people in the world from the teachings of the Quran.

Salam

Your approach is vehemently shameful bro... As i noticed in all your posts, you so instant call others pagan and bigots when they do not tally with your thoughts and mere your assumptions.. That's so bizarre... Anyway God bless you in your way of behavior...

[jkhan]

What are Seven Heavens and Six Days in Quran?

I made a video on Quran's Science, particularly on the topics of Cosmology and Evolution that you can view here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuq23pklsx4

In it I prove without doubt, how Seven Heavens in Quran are actually Seven bodies of Classical Antiquity, 'The Sun', 'The Moon', 'Mercury', 'Venus', 'Mars', 'Jupiter' and 'Saturn' which are visible through naked eyes. All seven bodies visible through naked eyes are the above. If you search Google for 'Seven Bodies of Classical Antiquity' you'll know what I am referring to. How the word 'lowest' for 'ad-dunia' is mistranslated where it should mean 'worldly' instead of 'lowest'. How the words 'Ardhi Mislahunna' have been mistranslated to mean Seven Earths even when the word 'Ardhi' is singular. It actually means 'Earth is just like Planets'. How 6 periods for Universe creation and 2 periods for Earth creation are accurate to the ratio of 4.54 billion years (Earth's age) / 13.8 billion years (Universe's age) matching perfectly with Quranic ratio of 2/6.

How the 4 periods for the age of 'Plate Tectonics', loosely translated as Mountain is 9 billion years. How the other bodies of Solar System are 2 periods as well, meaning 4.5 to 4.6 billion years. How the Cosmological accounts of Muslims in the past is wrong to mean Big Bang and how it is actually Solar System Creation story. How Evolution is true, even the Adamic Evolution and how it doesn't disrupt the general understanding of God creating Adam's Soul in Heaven. I am currently making part 2 of the Video and am exited to share it as well once it is done.

I tried to be as intellectually honest and unbiased as possible in the video. Please view the Video and tell me how you find it. I left no stones unturned. But even with all my efforts, I am just a feeble human being. I want to join hands with people who are well versed with Arabic. Since I have a Science background and an analytical brain, I think a marriage of these two would indeed help a lot in my cause which is mentioned below.

I think, the problem stems from outdated translations, exegesises and interpretations. Think about it, the first translation of Quran in English by a Muslim was done in 1910. After that we see some translations of Quran which carry a similar theme and without much creative dismantling of the message of God. Translations or Exegesises of Quran are currently more like words of popular people, which you either accept or reject. When was Truth about popular opinion of People or labels? Shouldn't truth be a free inquiry? Should we fear God alone or the popular view among Muslims?

What I don't like about the state of affairs of Muslims is our reliance on Schools of Thoughts than our own Self-Knowledge and original Sources of Islam. Especially now, when a lot of Science we've discovered and a lot of knowledge we have gained, the text in Quran translations remain the same, ambiguous, unfulfilling or unapproachable for the most part.

But nothing is lost! I am trying to bring together people who can work with me on this great cause and do it with me. My idea is to create a wiki/open-source one translation and exegesis of Quran that is open with debate format for skeptics, believers, philosophers, theologians, epistemologists, psychologists, economists, legalists, and scientists. Everyone has a say, the only thing is he/she has to prove why his/her translation is more accurate/updated/legit/simple/clear/scientific/true. And this way, the work on Quran is also never closed but remains open for all and is continuous.

Shouldn't this be the case from the day one? I mean, Quran is not like a Harry Potter novel, which if once translated by someone, should become stale, unchallenged and uncreative with repetitive thoughts and hopeless attitudes. Quran is not a work of fiction. It is a book of Wisdom, Guidance, Lessons, Science, Miracles, Realizations and so many meaningful things. A single human is beyond the capacity to translate it accurately. We all have to put our efforts now that we're in 2022.

So if you're with me on this cause, lets join hands together and form a body that helps us in our mission. This might be the biggest service to Islam you can undergo instead of siding with Sectarian forces in Religion which are dividing it. In the same Token, I would like to broadcast my message to free-minds.org, if they want, we can begin this noble cause on their own platform. I am a Software Business Entrepreneur and Alhamdulillah successful as well. Maybe you use one of my products as well. More about me later when we get to a certain direction together. So I have skillsets to bring this vision to reality due to my entrepreneur skills in Full Stack Software Development.

So instead of distributing one PDF through free-minds.org, we will now have a complete debatable platform for Quran's One Translation, that can be challenged 'verse by verse', 'word by word' and the most convincing of the arguments will win, instead of the so-called 'popular opinion among Muslims'. Blind following blind both end up in a ditch. If Muslims were so advanced with what we have now, we wouldn't be having sites like free-minds.org There is definitely a problem here and I believe the intellectuals on this website as well as superb people behind free-minds.org can really help. Peace!

In a nutshell... what are you trying to say according to quran, Is the Earth static and the rest of celestial bodies floating or going in line with hypothetical science speculations?

[Fusion]

To Emre:
You may have the wisdom and knowledge bro, but you lack respect, patience. You even blocked me from the messages while we were communicating. When I try to send you a reply. its says you blocked my user. Is that really required?
anyway I wish that you have patience to listen.. else  you will keep on posting and posting and no audience.
cheers

[salman378]

In a nutshell... what are you trying to say according to quran, Is the Earth static and the rest of celestial bodies floating or going in line with hypothetical science speculations?

No Sir. I am not saying Earth is Static. What makes you say that is beyond me. All I am saying in the video is that the Classical Antiquity are mentioned in this verse for 'Saba Samawaat'.  Search Google for 'The Celestial Bodies of Classical Antiquity' and you will know what I mean. Seven Heavens was a very common phrase in those times, even among Greeks who called them that. They are bodies of our Solar System that are visible with naked eyes. For Uranus, Neptune and Pluto you need a Telescope.

Check out my video completely and you will know that I am correct, otherwise just prove me wrong with an argument. Not just with hot air

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuq23pklsx4

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To Emre:
You may have the wisdom and knowledge bro, but you lack respect, patience. You even blocked me from the messages while we were communicating. When I try to send you a reply. its says you blocked my user. Is that really required?
anyway I wish that you have patience to listen.. else  you will keep on posting and posting and no audience.
cheers

Yeah same here bro. He's not even replying me now. He's caught in his own assumptions that we don't have Souls, which is an absurd view itself. He is accussing us to have wrong view, but doesn't check his own laughable views. He didn't even reply after I asked him this:

Explain this if you believe there are no Souls.

then He proportioned him and breathed into him of His Spirit, and He gave you hearing and sight(s) and burning hearts; little do you give thanks. (Quran 32:9)