The Qur'an is corrupted in translation and text is alter how can it be trusted?

[Man of Faith]

Moses is not mentioned in the Qur'an Mr Faith, the claim is a corruption.

Moses IS mentioned in the Quran, Mr. Abdun Nur. There are multiple instances where the word موسى is clearly a reference to a live person.

موسى is the Arabic word for Musa. And Musa is responsible for getting the initial knowledge. It was he who had the so-called Ten Directives come to him, which becomes clearer if one can decipher the text properly.

Be well
Qarael Amenuel

[Man of Faith]

Moses is a complete fiction Mr Faith, that means not true, never existed, no events connected.

So be your belief.

[Abdun Nur]

so be the evidence

[Makaveli]

so be the evidence

Is there an evidence that you exist? What if your birth certificate is destoryed or is fabricated in the first place? How can people prove you existed years after? But if you leave your work people will consider you a symbol even if some will doubt your existence, they will still talk about you in one way or the other. Ten Commandments isn't fiction.

[Abdun Nur]

You been smoking something again Makaveli?

[Man of Faith]

You have no evidence which could rule out the probability of a man called Moses. I have written records including Quran and Quran has literary statements Musa is a person.

If you think that l the mentions are forged this is your belief, but this does not necessarily mean you have evidence.

[Man of Faith]

You been smoking something again Makaveli?

That is not a counter-argument and something which has any relevance to the discussion at hand.

[Man of Faith]

Whether there was a man called Moses who brought something called the Ten Directives, you still have those accessible and obviously someone upon a time must have presented them. That is actually all which matters to me and we can call him a Messiah without name instead then, if you are so hesitant calling him Moses.

What matters to me are the records of wisdom and knowledge still saved for us today and those you cannot deny me and I can choose to use them whether you like it or not and I can prove to you that they are relevant to a man's mental growth.

[Abdun Nur]

Have you seen the ten commandments, an idiot could have thought of a better list of commandments, one that would have removed all excuse for the horrors of religion, hierarchy, usury, etc., but no we are supposed to believe the god of Moses had no clue and wrote a half assed list?

[Man of Faith]

Have you seen the ten commandments, an idiot could have thought of a better list of commandments, one that would have removed all excuse for the horrors of religion, hierarchy, usury, etc., but no we are supposed to believe the god of Moses had no clue and wrote a half assed list?

What You say an idiot could have written I think an idiot could not figure out what the Ten instinctive preventors are in a man, which is what the Ten Directives are dealing with, i.e.

Desire of;
1. Hierarchy
2. Materialism
3. Vanity
4. Preoccupation
5. Self-preservation of kin
6. Domination
7. Sexuality (promiscuity)
8. Greed
9. Exaggeration
10. Jealousy - get what your neighbor has

That you lack knowledge and think something else about these lines is not my problem. You are as fooled as everyone else and think Moses brought belief in a god. No, he brought people into ascending their minds by making people become truly being. In the traditional Bible the only remnant of his teaching is "I am who I am" because apparently the deluded clergymen could translate the simple "heyeh ashar heyeh" at least. What is meant by that is "to be is to be being" or in religious terms "God is who God is", i.e. if you decide to be God YOU ARE God, but there are some things to observe first and that is the bodily influence and for that you have a remedy in the Ten Directives. Just search for a mental way to NO hierarchy, NO materialism, NO vanity, NO preoccupation, NO self-preservation of kin, NO domination, NO sexuality, NO greed, No exaggeration, NO jealously and you cease being the animal in which you reside and you can build on your true being, the one you truly are.

The list has a definite purpose and is not just a meaningless law. It lists all of the human instinctive wants which the wise person stays away from.

I could call anyone including you who could not figure out what I did an idiot, but I have not because I am clement and watch my arrogance.

Be well
Qarael Amenuel