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Jesus was the nephew of Prophets Moses and Aaron

And the Joshua of the False Torah is actually Jesus himself.

As the title of my article indicates, Prophet Jesus lived in a much older period than is believed, and as stated in the verses of the Qur'an, he was the nephew of Prophets Moses and Aaron. In other words, they lived in the same period. Of course, if Jesus lived a very long life, it means that he continued his adventure in the world for a long time after them.

As it is known, there is a Mary mentioned in the altered Torah we have, and her father's name is Imran, and her brothers' names are Moses and Aaron.

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miryam

In the Qur'an, Mary is the daughter of Imran. We also see that in one verse she is addressed as "O sister of Aaron":

"O sister of Aaron! Your father was not an evil person. Nor was your mother unchaste." (19/28)

Although this expression can also mean "descendant of Aaron". But here we are told that Mary was really Aaron's sister.

And in the false Torah on the market, Jesus, the nephew of Moses, is also mentioned. But his name is more commonly known as Joshua:

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ye%C5%9Fu

"Joshua (or Joshua) (Hebrew: יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Yehoshua; Greek: Ἰησοῦς same as Jesus; Latin: Josue or Jesus; Arabic: يشع بن نون Joshua ibn Nun),"

As Wikipedia says, Joshua is already clearly spelt and read as "Jesus" in Greek and Latin.

In other words, there was no separate person named Joshua, as Christians and Jews think.

Joshua is Jesus himself.

Of course, as I mentioned, Jesus may have been a very long-lived person, and although he lived during the time of Moses, he may have continued his journey in the world life for a long time after him. In this case, it means that he was a guest in the world for centuries, just like Prophet Noah.

And Maryam is, of course, the sister of Aaron and Moses.

"O sister of Aaron! Your father was not an evil person. Nor was your mother unchaste." (Surah Maryam 28).

Ali Imran 50: "I am the verifier of that which is before me from the Torah, and I will make lawful for you some of what has been forbidden to you, and I have brought you a sign from your Lord. So beware of Allah and obey me."

What Jesus was referring to here were the prohibitions in the real Torah. That is to say, things that were actually lawful were made unlawful for the time being, and this punishment should be directed only against the guilty community. Those prohibitions were probably only a temporary punishment for one generation because of the sins of the Jews. And here Jesus must be giving good news that his children and grandchildren will not have to suffer the same punishment for the offence committed by that community. After all, why should the special prohibitions given to punish that Jewish community be applied for centuries to their descendants or to other communities who later became believers? That is why shortly after the Torah was presented to mankind, Jesus transmitted the Gospel to mankind and announced that these punitive prohibitions were no longer in force (Of course, we are talking about the original, not the fake Gospels, i.e. hadith books, that are now on the market).

Surah Al-Anam 146: We have forbidden to the Jews all hoofed animals, and We have also forbidden them the fat of cattle and sheep, except the fat of the backs and intestines of cattle and sheep and the fat mixed with the bones. We did this to them as a punishment for their transgression. Surely We are the keepers of Our word.

These criminal prohibitions are, as I said, the prohibition in the Torah of clean things that are normally lawful only for the guilty community. However, their future children and grandchildren are not guilty of any offence in this matter, nor are those who converted to the religion later on, or those from other societies. In this context, it seems plausible that after the Torah came the Gospel, or after Moses came Jesus with a new book, and that there were no such centuries between them.

And if this is the case, then shortly after these prohibitions, during his prophethood, Prophet Jesus announced that these prohibitions were abolished and that all clean blessings were now lawful for the Jews as well, in line with the statement in the verse (Ali Imran 50.)...

By the way, after researching foreign sources, some people have realised that the prophet Joshua could actually be Jesus.

http://www.eliyah.com/nameson.htm

Some of the researchers who recognise Jesus and Joshua as the same person also claim that he was the famous ruler Tutankhamun.

When we analyse whether there is a connection between Jesus and Moses in today's false Gospels (which are actually books of hadith), we can see the following:

Matthew Chapter 17 Jesus' appearance changes

(Mar 9:2-13; Luke 9:28-36)

"After six days Jesus went up on a high mountain, taking with Him only Peter and James and James' brother John. 2. There, before their eyes, Jesus' appearance changed. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became white as light. 3. At that moment Moses and Elijah appeared to the disciples. They were talking to Jesus".

Of course, let us remind you again that the books called Gospels, Psalms or Torah that are currently on the market are human-written books of hadith. That is, they are not the real ones.

The Qur'an already states that they hid their true books:

Surah Al-An'am 91: They could not recognise Allah in a manner worthy of His glory. For they said, "Allah has not revealed anything to man". Say: "Who sent down the Book which Moses brought to mankind as a light and a guide? And you bring forth that Book in scrolls, and you keep many of them hidden. You have been taught what neither you nor your fathers knew." Say, "Allah", then let them play in the mire in which they are mired.

****

Say: "We believe in Allah and in that which has been sent down to us, and in that which was sent down to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and his descendants, and that which was given to Moses and Jesus, and that which was given to the other Prophets. We are only those who submit to Him/Allah."

Notice that in this verse, the name of Prophet Jesus is mentioned right after Moses...

Remember when We sent to them two men, but they denied them. Then We supported them with a third person. They had said: "We are the messengers sent to you!" (Surah Yasin, verse 14).

There are examples of more than one messenger being sent in the same or nearby period and place...

In short, this means that we are faced with another miracle of the Qur'an and it provides us with the following information:

1- The Qur'an shows that the 2 different Marys mentioned in the  false Torah and Gospels in the market are actually the same person.

2- The Qur'an is the only one that has shown that the Prophets Joshua and Jesus, who are thought to be different people in the altered Torah and Gospels, are actually the same person (there is no separate name called Joshua anyway...).

In other words, although there is an excerpt from the life story of Jesus in the false Torah, not many people realise this because of the error of the name and the partial alteration of the story.

But thanks to the Qur'an, we have learnt this fact.

3- We understand from the Qur'anic verses that Prophet Jesus was the nephew of Prophets Moses and Aaron, and that he was born in a much older age than is known.

4- We can conclude that the time between the transmission of the true Torah and the Gospel to mankind was not as long as it is believed.

5- We can also reach the possibility that Prophet Jesus may have lived a very long life in our world, contrary to the general belief.

By the way, let us remember that all the prophets are currently living in the Hereafter Universe called the Lord's Floor (so Prophet Jesus, like all the other messengers, is already living in paradise):

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2016/05/goklerevrenler.html

Furthermore, the following verse suggests that Jesus may have married and had children on earth, just like the other prophets:

-And We sent messengers before you, and We gave them wives and children, and no messenger can bring any miracle except by the permission of Allah. There is a writing for every period of time (Surat al-Rad, verse 38).

Of course, the birth of Prophet Jesus may also coincide with the period after the exodus of Moses and Aaron from Egypt with their people.

6- This explains the origin of legends dating back thousands of years before Christ, which overlap with the life of Jesus. Since Jesus was born in a much older age than is believed, characters with a life story similar to his have appeared from that time to the present day, but with different names. For example Osiris and Horus... In other words, the story of Jesus was not taken from them, as some people think, but on the contrary, since Jesus lived much earlier, their story was taken from the life of the prophet. But of course, unfortunately, they deified the prophet and turned him into a shirk legend which they worshipped, and Christianity is based on a modified pagan version of this story.

Speaking of the miracles of the Qur'an and ancient Egypt during the time of the Prophet Moses, let us share a new observation (a few people made this observation a few years ago):

28:38 Whereupon Pharaoh said: “O you nobles! I did not know that you could have any deity other than myselfWell, then, O Haman, kindle me a fire for [baking bricks of] clay, and then build me a lofty tower, that haply I may have a look at the god of Moses although, behold, I am convinced that he is of those who [always] tell lies!"

From the verse, we understand that the rulers of the ancient Egyptian civilisation used baked clay in their important constructions.

And for centuries, researchers and geologists interested in this ancient Egyptian civilisation thought that the Egyptian pyramids were built by cutting limestone from a nearby quarry and transporting it up ramps. But today, electron microscopes have revealed that the upper blocks have chemistry found nowhere else in nature. These upper blocks were baked and then poured like modern cement, that is, they were not cut from existing limestone. In other words, it turned out that some of the stones that made up the pyramids were made of baked clay/mud. And nobody knew this until today, it was a construction technique that the pharaohs kept secret from other civilisations...

The mystery in the pyramids has recently been solved and this discovery confirmed the information given in verse 38 of Surah Kasas. In the ancient Egyptian civilisation, baked mud was indeed used in the construction of important structures.

https://www.livescience.com/1554-surprising-truth-great-pyramids-built.html

https://www.geopolymer.org/archaeology/pyramids/pyramids-3-the-formula-the-invention-of-stone/


(My Turkish article translated with machine)
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Quote from: Emre_1974tr on December 27, 2023, 08:12:41 PM
Jesus was the nephew of Prophets Moses and Aaron

And the Joshua of the False Torah is actually Jesus himself.

As the title of my article indicates, Prophet Jesus lived in a much older period than is believed, and as stated in the verses of the Qur'an, he was the nephew of Prophets Moses and Aaron. In other words, they lived in the same period. Of course, if Jesus lived a very long life, it means that he continued his adventure in the world for a long time after them.

As it is known, there is a Mary mentioned in the altered Torah we have, and her father's name is Imran, and her brothers' names are Moses and Aaron.

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miryam

In the Qur'an, Mary is the daughter of Imran. We also see that in one verse she is addressed as "O sister of Aaron":

"O sister of Aaron! Your father was not an evil person. Nor was your mother unchaste." (19/28)

Although this expression can also mean "descendant of Aaron". But here we are told that Mary was really Aaron's sister.

And in the false Torah on the market, Jesus, the nephew of Moses, is also mentioned. But his name is more commonly known as Joshua:

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ye%C5%9Fu

"Joshua (or Joshua) (Hebrew: יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Yehoshua; Greek: Ἰησοῦς same as Jesus; Latin: Josue or Jesus; Arabic: يشع بن نون Joshua ibn Nun),"

As Wikipedia says, Joshua is already clearly spelt and read as "Jesus" in Greek and Latin.

In other words, there was no separate person named Joshua, as Christians and Jews think.

Joshua is Jesus himself.

Of course, as I mentioned, Jesus may have been a very long-lived person, and although he lived during the time of Moses, he may have continued his journey in the world life for a long time after him. In this case, it means that he was a guest in the world for centuries, just like Prophet Noah.

And Maryam is, of course, the sister of Aaron and Moses.

"O sister of Aaron! Your father was not an evil person. Nor was your mother unchaste." (Surah Maryam 28).

Ali Imran 50: "I am the verifier of that which is before me from the Torah, and I will make lawful for you some of what has been forbidden to you, and I have brought you a sign from your Lord. So beware of Allah and obey me."

What Jesus was referring to here were the prohibitions in the real Torah. That is to say, things that were actually lawful were made unlawful for the time being, and this punishment should be directed only against the guilty community. Those prohibitions were probably only a temporary punishment for one generation because of the sins of the Jews. And here Jesus must be giving good news that his children and grandchildren will not have to suffer the same punishment for the offence committed by that community. After all, why should the special prohibitions given to punish that Jewish community be applied for centuries to their descendants or to other communities who later became believers? That is why shortly after the Torah was presented to mankind, Jesus transmitted the Gospel to mankind and announced that these punitive prohibitions were no longer in force (Of course, we are talking about the original, not the fake Gospels, i.e. hadith books, that are now on the market).

Surah Al-Anam 146: We have forbidden to the Jews all hoofed animals, and We have also forbidden them the fat of cattle and sheep, except the fat of the backs and intestines of cattle and sheep and the fat mixed with the bones. We did this to them as a punishment for their transgression. Surely We are the keepers of Our word.

These criminal prohibitions are, as I said, the prohibition in the Torah of clean things that are normally lawful only for the guilty community. However, their future children and grandchildren are not guilty of any offence in this matter, nor are those who converted to the religion later on, or those from other societies. In this context, it seems plausible that after the Torah came the Gospel, or after Moses came Jesus with a new book, and that there were no such centuries between them.

And if this is the case, then shortly after these prohibitions, during his prophethood, Prophet Jesus announced that these prohibitions were abolished and that all clean blessings were now lawful for the Jews as well, in line with the statement in the verse (Ali Imran 50.)...

By the way, after researching foreign sources, some people have realised that the prophet Joshua could actually be Jesus.

http://www.eliyah.com/nameson.htm

Some of the researchers who recognise Jesus and Joshua as the same person also claim that he was the famous ruler Tutankhamun.

When we analyse whether there is a connection between Jesus and Moses in today's false Gospels (which are actually books of hadith), we can see the following:

Matthew Chapter 17 Jesus' appearance changes

(Mar 9:2-13; Luke 9:28-36)

"After six days Jesus went up on a high mountain, taking with Him only Peter and James and James' brother John. 2. There, before their eyes, Jesus' appearance changed. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became white as light. 3. At that moment Moses and Elijah appeared to the disciples. They were talking to Jesus".

Of course, let us remind you again that the books called Gospels, Psalms or Torah that are currently on the market are human-written books of hadith. That is, they are not the real ones.

The Qur'an already states that they hid their true books:

Surah Al-An'am 91: They could not recognise Allah in a manner worthy of His glory. For they said, "Allah has not revealed anything to man". Say: "Who sent down the Book which Moses brought to mankind as a light and a guide? And you bring forth that Book in scrolls, and you keep many of them hidden. You have been taught what neither you nor your fathers knew." Say, "Allah", then let them play in the mire in which they are mired.

****

Say: "We believe in Allah and in that which has been sent down to us, and in that which was sent down to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and his descendants, and that which was given to Moses and Jesus, and that which was given to the other Prophets. We are only those who submit to Him/Allah."

Notice that in this verse, the name of Prophet Jesus is mentioned right after Moses...

Remember when We sent to them two men, but they denied them. Then We supported them with a third person. They had said: "We are the messengers sent to you!" (Surah Yasin, verse 14).

There are examples of more than one messenger being sent in the same or nearby period and place...

In short, this means that we are faced with another miracle of the Qur'an and it provides us with the following information:

1- The Qur'an shows that the 2 different Marys mentioned in the  false Torah and Gospels in the market are actually the same person.

2- The Qur'an is the only one that has shown that the Prophets Joshua and Jesus, who are thought to be different people in the altered Torah and Gospels, are actually the same person (there is no separate name called Joshua anyway...).

In other words, although there is an excerpt from the life story of Jesus in the false Torah, not many people realise this because of the error of the name and the partial alteration of the story.

But thanks to the Qur'an, we have learnt this fact.

3- We understand from the Qur'anic verses that Prophet Jesus was the nephew of Prophets Moses and Aaron, and that he was born in a much older age than is known.

4- We can conclude that the time between the transmission of the true Torah and the Gospel to mankind was not as long as it is believed.

5- We can also reach the possibility that Prophet Jesus may have lived a very long life in our world, contrary to the general belief.

By the way, let us remember that all the prophets are currently living in the Hereafter Universe called the Lord's Floor (so Prophet Jesus, like all the other messengers, is already living in paradise):

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2016/05/goklerevrenler.html

Furthermore, the following verse suggests that Jesus may have married and had children on earth, just like the other prophets:

-And We sent messengers before you, and We gave them wives and children, and no messenger can bring any miracle except by the permission of Allah. There is a writing for every period of time (Surat al-Rad, verse 38).

Of course, the birth of Prophet Jesus may also coincide with the period after the exodus of Moses and Aaron from Egypt with their people.

6- This explains the origin of legends dating back thousands of years before Christ, which overlap with the life of Jesus. Since Jesus was born in a much older age than is believed, characters with a life story similar to his have appeared from that time to the present day, but with different names. For example Osiris and Horus... In other words, the story of Jesus was not taken from them, as some people think, but on the contrary, since Jesus lived much earlier, their story was taken from the life of the prophet. But of course, unfortunately, they deified the prophet and turned him into a shirk legend which they worshipped, and Christianity is based on a modified pagan version of this story.

Speaking of the miracles of the Qur'an and ancient Egypt during the time of the Prophet Moses, let us share a new observation (a few people made this observation a few years ago):

28:38 Whereupon Pharaoh said: “O you nobles! I did not know that you could have any deity other than myselfWell, then, O Haman, kindle me a fire for [baking bricks of] clay, and then build me a lofty tower, that haply I may have a look at the god of Moses although, behold, I am convinced that he is of those who [always] tell lies!"

From the verse, we understand that the rulers of the ancient Egyptian civilisation used baked clay in their important constructions.

And for centuries, researchers and geologists interested in this ancient Egyptian civilisation thought that the Egyptian pyramids were built by cutting limestone from a nearby quarry and transporting it up ramps. But today, electron microscopes have revealed that the upper blocks have chemistry found nowhere else in nature. These upper blocks were baked and then poured like modern cement, that is, they were not cut from existing limestone. In other words, it turned out that some of the stones that made up the pyramids were made of baked clay/mud. And nobody knew this until today, it was a construction technique that the pharaohs kept secret from other civilisations...

The mystery in the pyramids has recently been solved and this discovery confirmed the information given in verse 38 of Surah Kasas. In the ancient Egyptian civilisation, baked mud was indeed used in the construction of important structures.

https://www.livescience.com/1554-surprising-truth-great-pyramids-built.html

https://www.geopolymer.org/archaeology/pyramids/pyramids-3-the-formula-the-invention-of-stone/


(My Turkish article translated with machine)


No Jesus was not the Nephew of Moses and Aaron.  :o :o :o Please be patient when studying the Bible and the Quran. The Bible has many truths in it and some falsehood however most of what is written is confirmed in the Holy Quran. Mary lived during a period when the Temple was already built...

19:11 So he(Zacharias) went out among his people from the temple enclosure, and he indicated to them that they should glorify Him at dawn and dusk.

Also the reason why Mary was called "Daughter of Aaron" was simply because Zacharias was her UNCLE. According to the Bible Zacharias was a priest which would imply he was from the tribe of Levi which would make him a direct descendant of Aaron, because it was Aaron's progeny which were given the rites of priesthood. This is mentioned in the books of Moses.

Peace,

Kevin

Jafar

QuoteJesus was the nephew of Prophets Moses and Aaron
And the Joshua of the False Torah is actually Jesus himself.

The characteristic of Joshua and Jesus is on the opposite end of each others.

Joshua the conqueror, the vanquisher of Canaanites and Philistines, the destroyer of Jericho and many other "idol worshipper" settlements, leading the "True God's chosen people" to settle in "God's promised land".

Jesus, the teacher, preached love and forgiveness, forgive his enemies who plotted to kill him, fighting against the religion and common belief of his own society, convicted by death penalty due to violation of "God's law", an apostate and a blasphemer of "God".

By "God" here it refer to an entity named "Yahweh", the God of Israel.

Emre_1974tr

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on December 27, 2023, 08:12:41 PM
Jesus was the nephew of Prophets Moses and Aaron

And the Joshua of the False Torah is actually Jesus himself.

As the title of my article indicates, Prophet Jesus lived in a much older period than is believed, and as stated in the verses of the Qur'an, he was the nephew of Prophets Moses and Aaron. In other words, they lived in the same period. Of course, if Jesus lived a very long life, it means that he continued his adventure in the world for a long time after them.

As it is known, there is a Mary mentioned in the altered Torah we have, and her father's name is Imran, and her brothers' names are Moses and Aaron.

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miryam

In the Qur'an, Mary is the daughter of Imran. We also see that in one verse she is addressed as "O sister of Aaron":

"O sister of Aaron! Your father was not an evil person. Nor was your mother unchaste." (19/28)

Although this expression can also mean "descendant of Aaron". But here we are told that Mary was really Aaron's sister.

And in the false Torah on the market, Jesus, the nephew of Moses, is also mentioned. But his name is more commonly known as Joshua:

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ye%C5%9Fu

"Joshua (or Joshua) (Hebrew: יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Yehoshua; Greek: Ἰησοῦς same as Jesus; Latin: Josue or Jesus; Arabic: يشع بن نون Joshua ibn Nun),"

As Wikipedia says, Joshua is already clearly spelt and read as "Jesus" in Greek and Latin.

In other words, there was no separate person named Joshua, as Christians and Jews think.

Joshua is Jesus himself.

Of course, as I mentioned, Jesus may have been a very long-lived person, and although he lived during the time of Moses, he may have continued his journey in the world life for a long time after him. In this case, it means that he was a guest in the world for centuries, just like Prophet Noah.

And Maryam is, of course, the sister of Aaron and Moses.

"O sister of Aaron! Your father was not an evil person. Nor was your mother unchaste." (Surah Maryam 28).

Ali Imran 50: "I am the verifier of that which is before me from the Torah, and I will make lawful for you some of what has been forbidden to you, and I have brought you a sign from your Lord. So beware of Allah and obey me."

What Jesus was referring to here were the prohibitions in the real Torah. That is to say, things that were actually lawful were made unlawful for the time being, and this punishment should be directed only against the guilty community. Those prohibitions were probably only a temporary punishment for one generation because of the sins of the Jews. And here Jesus must be giving good news that his children and grandchildren will not have to suffer the same punishment for the offence committed by that community. After all, why should the special prohibitions given to punish that Jewish community be applied for centuries to their descendants or to other communities who later became believers? That is why shortly after the Torah was presented to mankind, Jesus transmitted the Gospel to mankind and announced that these punitive prohibitions were no longer in force (Of course, we are talking about the original, not the fake Gospels, i.e. hadith books, that are now on the market).

Surah Al-Anam 146: We have forbidden to the Jews all hoofed animals, and We have also forbidden them the fat of cattle and sheep, except the fat of the backs and intestines of cattle and sheep and the fat mixed with the bones. We did this to them as a punishment for their transgression. Surely We are the keepers of Our word.

These criminal prohibitions are, as I said, the prohibition in the Torah of clean things that are normally lawful only for the guilty community. However, their future children and grandchildren are not guilty of any offence in this matter, nor are those who converted to the religion later on, or those from other societies. In this context, it seems plausible that after the Torah came the Gospel, or after Moses came Jesus with a new book, and that there were no such centuries between them.

And if this is the case, then shortly after these prohibitions, during his prophethood, Prophet Jesus announced that these prohibitions were abolished and that all clean blessings were now lawful for the Jews as well, in line with the statement in the verse (Ali Imran 50.)...

By the way, after researching foreign sources, some people have realised that the prophet Joshua could actually be Jesus.

http://www.eliyah.com/nameson.htm

Some of the researchers who recognise Jesus and Joshua as the same person also claim that he was the famous ruler Tutankhamun.

When we analyse whether there is a connection between Jesus and Moses in today's false Gospels (which are actually books of hadith), we can see the following:

Matthew Chapter 17 Jesus' appearance changes

(Mar 9:2-13; Luke 9:28-36)

"After six days Jesus went up on a high mountain, taking with Him only Peter and James and James' brother John. 2. There, before their eyes, Jesus' appearance changed. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became white as light. 3. At that moment Moses and Elijah appeared to the disciples. They were talking to Jesus".

Of course, let us remind you again that the books called Gospels, Psalms or Torah that are currently on the market are human-written books of hadith. That is, they are not the real ones.

The Qur'an already states that they hid their true books:

Surah Al-An'am 91: They could not recognise Allah in a manner worthy of His glory. For they said, "Allah has not revealed anything to man". Say: "Who sent down the Book which Moses brought to mankind as a light and a guide? And you bring forth that Book in scrolls, and you keep many of them hidden. You have been taught what neither you nor your fathers knew." Say, "Allah", then let them play in the mire in which they are mired.

****

Say: "We believe in Allah and in that which has been sent down to us, and in that which was sent down to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and his descendants, and that which was given to Moses and Jesus, and that which was given to the other Prophets. We are only those who submit to Him/Allah."

Notice that in this verse, the name of Prophet Jesus is mentioned right after Moses...

Remember when We sent to them two men, but they denied them. Then We supported them with a third person. They had said: "We are the messengers sent to you!" (Surah Yasin, verse 14).

There are examples of more than one messenger being sent in the same or nearby period and place...

In short, this means that we are faced with another miracle of the Qur'an and it provides us with the following information:

1- The Qur'an shows that the 2 different Marys mentioned in the  false Torah and Gospels in the market are actually the same person.

2- The Qur'an is the only one that has shown that the Prophets Joshua and Jesus, who are thought to be different people in the altered Torah and Gospels, are actually the same person (there is no separate name called Joshua anyway...).

In other words, although there is an excerpt from the life story of Jesus in the false Torah, not many people realise this because of the error of the name and the partial alteration of the story.

But thanks to the Qur'an, we have learnt this fact.

3- We understand from the Qur'anic verses that Prophet Jesus was the nephew of Prophets Moses and Aaron, and that he was born in a much older age than is known.

4- We can conclude that the time between the transmission of the true Torah and the Gospel to mankind was not as long as it is believed.

5- We can also reach the possibility that Prophet Jesus may have lived a very long life in our world, contrary to the general belief.

By the way, let us remember that all the prophets are currently living in the Hereafter Universe called the Lord's Floor (so Prophet Jesus, like all the other messengers, is already living in paradise):

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2016/05/goklerevrenler.html

Furthermore, the following verse suggests that Jesus may have married and had children on earth, just like the other prophets:

-And We sent messengers before you, and We gave them wives and children, and no messenger can bring any miracle except by the permission of Allah. There is a writing for every period of time (Surat al-Rad, verse 38).

Of course, the birth of Prophet Jesus may also coincide with the period after the exodus of Moses and Aaron from Egypt with their people.

6- This explains the origin of legends dating back thousands of years before Christ, which overlap with the life of Jesus. Since Jesus was born in a much older age than is believed, characters with a life story similar to his have appeared from that time to the present day, but with different names. For example Osiris and Horus... In other words, the story of Jesus was not taken from them, as some people think, but on the contrary, since Jesus lived much earlier, their story was taken from the life of the prophet. But of course, unfortunately, they deified the prophet and turned him into a shirk legend which they worshipped, and Christianity is based on a modified pagan version of this story.

Speaking of the miracles of the Qur'an and ancient Egypt during the time of the Prophet Moses, let us share a new observation (a few people made this observation a few years ago):

28:38 Whereupon Pharaoh said: “O you nobles! I did not know that you could have any deity other than myselfWell, then, O Haman, kindle me a fire for [baking bricks of] clay, and then build me a lofty tower, that haply I may have a look at the god of Moses although, behold, I am convinced that he is of those who [always] tell lies!"

From the verse, we understand that the rulers of the ancient Egyptian civilisation used baked clay in their important constructions.

And for centuries, researchers and geologists interested in this ancient Egyptian civilisation thought that the Egyptian pyramids were built by cutting limestone from a nearby quarry and transporting it up ramps. But today, electron microscopes have revealed that the upper blocks have chemistry found nowhere else in nature. These upper blocks were baked and then poured like modern cement, that is, they were not cut from existing limestone. In other words, it turned out that some of the stones that made up the pyramids were made of baked clay/mud. And nobody knew this until today, it was a construction technique that the pharaohs kept secret from other civilisations...

The mystery in the pyramids has recently been solved and this discovery confirmed the information given in verse 38 of Surah Kasas. In the ancient Egyptian civilisation, baked mud was indeed used in the construction of important structures.

https://www.livescience.com/1554-surprising-truth-great-pyramids-built.html

https://www.geopolymer.org/archaeology/pyramids/pyramids-3-the-formula-the-invention-of-stone/


(My Turkish article translated with machine)


The American writer Gene Matlock has also presented evidence in his books that Jesus lived in much more ancient times than is known. Unfortunately, he could not fully resolve the issue because he could not get rid of the influence of Christianity and the belief in the Trinity. He thought that the trinity in Hinduism was derived from Christianity and that Christianity was the origin of the world's religions. But in reality the trinity was a corruption of the belief in one God and the first divine religion in the world was Islam.
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good logic

So where do you place David and Solomon?
They came at least a century after Moses
Surely they were before Jesus.  In fact Solomon built the temple.
Zacharia brought up Meriem the mother of Jesus.
Zacharia was a priest in the temple after the Jews came back from exile to the promised land a second time.
Hence Jesus was  at the same time as Zacharia the priest,
All these are history facts . Qoran clarifies this for us as well.
The sister of Aaron in Qoran just means from the same family of priests.

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Quote from: Emre_1974tr on December 28, 2023, 04:03:02 AM

The American writer Gene Matlock has also presented evidence in his books that Jesus lived in much more ancient times than is known. Unfortunately, he could not fully resolve the issue because he could not get rid of the influence of Christianity and the belief in the Trinity. He thought that the trinity in Hinduism was derived from Christianity and that Christianity was the origin of the world's religions. But in reality the trinity was a corruption of the belief in one God and the first divine religion in the world was Islam.


Well Gene Matlock is wrong. Jesus existed during the period of the Romans. During the period of John the Baptist, Zechariah and the reign of King Herod. This is confirmed by the Jewish historian Josephus. I understand some people's hesitancy with regards to the Bible as it does contain some contradictions, however it does state the truth about the timing of when Jesus existed which falls neatly in line with the revelations of the Quran.

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Kevin

Emre_1974tr

Quote from: good logic on December 28, 2023, 11:57:50 AM
So where do you place David and Solomon?
They came at least a century after Moses
Surely they were before Jesus.  In fact Solomon built the temple.
Zacharia brought up Meriem the mother of Jesus.
Zacharia was a priest in the temple after the Jews came back from exile to the promised land a second time.
Hence Jesus was  at the same time as Zacharia the priest,
All these are history facts . Qoran clarifies this for us as well.
The sister of Aaron in Qoran just means from the same family of priests.

GOD bless.
Peace.

There are no such historical facts. I mean, they weren't priests.

As for the prophets David and Solomon, they may have lived in much earlier times. Again, there is no such thing as historical fact about them. We have only one source of historical factual information: The Quran.


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good logic

So what does the Qoran say about history and the order of lineage?

God has chosen Adam, Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of Amran (and messengers among them)) to the people.
إِنَّ اللَّهَ اصطَفىٰ ءادَمَ وَنوحًا وَءالَ إِبرٰهيمَ وَءالَ عِمرٰنَ عَلَى العٰلَمينَ
They belong to the same progeny. God is Hearer, Omniscient.
ذُرِّيَّةً بَعضُها مِن بَعضٍ وَاللَّهُ سَميعٌ عَليمٌ

We originate from Adam -Beni Adam- Then Noah comes after Adam, then Abraham. is this a historical order and fact?

Abraham then Isaac and Ismail, then Jacob. Do these not follow one another?
Joseph, son of Jacob settled in Misr with all the family- Beni Israeel moved to Misr -.
They then made the exodus under Moses. and moved again out of Egypt.
If Jesus existed at this time  same time as Moses ,he would have come/existed. before many Israeel prophets like David and Solomon. No such a thing in Qoran.
Jesus was a prophet to Beni Israeel. He must have come after Moses. In fact he came to close that chapter for them and release them from their spiritual bondage and correct their ways from the corruptions they established in Judaism.
One could say Jesus was the last prophet to that clan
David and Solomon came after Moses and ruled Beni Israeel . They existed after Moses and before Jesus.

Is this not the correct order of the history of these people in Qoran?
Adam
Noah
Abraham
Isaac, Ismail
Jacob
Joseph
Moses
Saul
David
Solomon
... then Jesus
Easily centuries after Moses ,came Jesus.
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Peace all again...

I think we discussed this many times in the past if my memory is right..

All I have to say or add to it is verse 19:04-06 confirms that prophet Zakaria had a very close relationship with prophet Yaqub.. Prophet Yaqub could most probably grand father of Zakaria not necessarily the son of Yousuf though but grandson of any of Yaqubs sons.. If you read 19:04-06 you can't deny it..  So if Zakaria is grandson of Yaqub then Mariam being just a kid when Zakaria was very old,  then Moses is not far in time from Isa...btw all prophets names mentioned in Quran not necessarily be from Israelite lineage.. Like Solomon Dawud etc..

But without any doubt Prophet Yaqub ie grandson of prophet Ibrahim has a blood relation with Zakaria either grandfather or ggf..

So... Maryam could well and truly be sister of Musa and Harun thus Hurun could be the eldest in family and next a sister and Moses and Maryam could be the last of all (siblings).. Since harun and Musa already were prophets perhaps that's why Maryams mother wanted to dedicate what was in the womb for God's service. But she became a female..

Also note 40:34 it states about Prophet Yousuf in between Musa's story.. It states Yousuf came before.. So Yousuf is son of Yaqub... Needless to say Yousuf alone by him who was family of King Pharou who hid his faith..
In my view Mohamed was not far from Isa too... And not far from where he lived too.. That's my take..
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Quote from: jkhan on December 29, 2023, 04:23:10 AM

But without any doubt Prophet Yaqub ie grandson of prophet Ibrahim has a blood relation with Zakaria either grandfather or ggf..

Yaqub was Ibraheem's son Q11:71, he was born after Ishaq.

The only reason people are questioning the timelines is because of the Bible. But the Bible has been proven over and over again as a book invented by men and not a book of Allah.

The Quran is the only valid source for this information.