Examples:
Quran 50:38 We have created the heavens, the earth and what is between them in six days, and no fatigue touched Us.
Quran 7:40 Those who have denied Our signs, and reacted to them with arrogance, the gates of the sky will not open for them, nor will they enter paradise until the camel passes through the eye of a needle. It is such that We recompense the criminals.
1- God is not tired.
2- Not rich people, the disbelievers/bad peoples will go to hell.
Quran 43:71 They will be served with golden trays and cups, and they will find everything the self desires and the eyes wish for, and you will abide therein forever.
There are all sorts of blessings in Paradise, including marriage, eating and drinking.
Nobody has got ghost according to Quran
Unlike the traditional Islamic doctrine which is under the influence of sects and hadith fabrications, in the real Islamic doctrine of the Quran people have NO ghosts/ souls/ spirits. People do NOT have a divine component, a soul, a spirit nor a ghost.
Everything created in the universe is material, physical and real, NOT an illusion. (for example the first man Adam was made from clay element and the jinn was made from fire element)
Heaven and Hell are NOT mental delusions. They are ?physical? places created in another universe.
Unfortunately, terms such as soul- spirit (an immortal divine component, a ghost that can exist on its own without the body even after death) have succeed to enter Islam due to wrong translations -which are made under the influence of hadith fabrications- and Islamic mysticism (sufism). But in the original text of the Quran (Arabic version), they are NOT available.
In the Quran, people have ?nafs?, which is the equivalent of ?life energy?, ?ego?, ?character?. People are born, they die and they will be ?physically? recreated in the Hereafter:
Does the human being think that We will not gather his bones? Indeed, We were able to make his fingertips (The Resurrection, 75: 3-4)
As also can be seen in the verses, people do NOT have souls/ spirits, they only have ?nefs?, which dies together with the bodily functions. And as again can be understood from the verses ?most? of the people will be recreated in the Judgment Day. We use the word ?most? because there are some exceptions. The Quran gives the examples of very meritorious people, such as martyrs or prophets and on the other edge some deadly sinners, such as the Pharaoh who committed outrage to his people.
These exceptional people have already started to reap what they have sown. They are either rewarded in Heaven (physically) or punished in Hell (physically).
Examples to the righteous who go to Heaven immediately after their death:
? Do not count that those who are killed in the sake of God are dead. No, they are alive at their Lord receiving provisions. Happy with what God has granted them from His favor, and they rejoice for those who have yet to follow them. There is no fear over them nor do they grieve. (The Family of Imran, 3: 169-170)
? A man came running from the farthest part of the city, saying: "O my people, follow the messengers. Follow those who do not ask you for any wage, and are guided. Why should I not serve the One who initiated me, and to Him is your ultimate return? Shall I take gods besides Him? If the Gracious intends any harm for me, their intercession cannot help me in the least, nor can they save me. Then I would be clearly astray. I have acknowledged your Lord, so listen to me! It was said, "Enter Paradise." He said "Oh, how I wish my people only knew of what my Lord has forgiven me, and made me of the honored ones."We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the sky; for there was no need to send them down. For all it took was one scream, whereupon they were stilled. (36:20-29)
Example to the disbelievers who committed ?deadly? sins and tyranny:
? So God protected him from the evil of what they schemed, while the people of Pharaoh have incurred the worst retribution. The fire, which they will be exposed to morning and evening, and on the day when the moment is established: "Admit the people of Pharaoh into the most severe of the retribution." (The Believer, 40: 45-46)
And the following verses refer to the common/ordinary people, possibly the majority of the disbelievers:
? The horn will be blown, whereupon they will rise from the graves rushing towards their Lord. They will say, "Woe to us. Who has resurrected us from our resting place? This is what the Gracious had promised. The messengers were truthful!" (Ya sin, 36: 51-52)
In the Quran the word ?Spirit? only refers to the ?Holy Ghost/Spirit? and to the messages It brought. For example:
We gave Moses the book, and after him, We sent the messengers. Later We gave Jesus son of Mary the clear proofs, and We supported Him with the Holy Spirit. Is it that every time a messenger comes to you with what your minds do not desire, you become arrogant? A group of them you deny, and a group of them you kill! (2:87)
Such messengers, We have preferred some to others; some of them talked to God, and He raised some of them in ranks, and We gave Jesus son of Mary the proofs and We supported him with the Holy Spirit. Had God wished, the people after them would not have fought after the proofs had come to them, but they disputed, some of them acknowledged and some of them did not appreciate. Had God wished they would not have fought, but God does whatever He wishes. (2:253)
God said, "O Jesus son of Mary, recall My blessings upon you and your mother that I supported you with the Holy Spirit; you spoke to the people in the cradle and in old age; and I taught you the book and the wisdom, and the Torah, and the Injeel; and you would create from clay the shape of a bird, then blow into it and it becomes a bird by My leave; and you heal the blind and the leper by My leave; and you brought out the dead by My leave. I have restrained the Children of Israel from you, that you came to them with proofs; but those who rejected amongst them said, "This is an obvious magic!" (5:110)
He sends down the angels with the Spirit by His command upon whom He wishes of His servants: "That you shall warn that there is no god but I, so be aware of Me." (16:2)
They ask you concerning the Spirit. Say, "The Spirit is from the command of my Lord, and the knowledge you were given was but very little.? (17:85)
It was sent down with the trusted Spirit. (26:193)
Possessor of the highest ranks, the One with the Throne. He sends the Spirit with His command upon whom He wills from His servants, so that they may warn of the day of Summoning. (40:15)
You will not find any people who acknowledge God and the Last day befriending those who oppose God and His messenger, even if they were their parents, or their children, or their siblings, or their tribe. For these, He decrees trust into their hearts, and supports them with a Spirit from Him, and He admits them into paradises with rivers flowing beneath, wherein they will abide. God is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him. These are the party of God. Most assuredly, the party of God are the winners. (58:22)
The day when the Spirit and the angels stand in line, none will speak unless the Gracious permits him and he speaks what is true. (78:38)
Some dangers of thinking that people have spirits/ souls:
- Having a belief that people have spirits often leads up to the sanctification of the humans. It leads people to associate himself / herself with God.
- It also contributes to building up a strong belief of spiritual evolution. As a result of this false belief, in order to evolve spiritually, people praise suffering and pain. When they encounter a disastrous situation, instead of getting out of it, they welcome it and take it as a reward. However, according to the Quran, the bad things that come to us are either to test us or a result of our sins, our own malignancy.
- Spiritualists regard life as a school where we, as students, learn and mature. These people maintain that suffering / pain is a must for spiritual evolution. Thus, it turns the evil into hidden heroes having a special (key) role in the spiritual evolution process. Those who can read between the lines can easily realize that it glorifies the evil (even Satan). Also spiritualists
tolerate the immoral behaviors of the ones who are not spiritually evolved (!)
- Belief in the spirits opens the door to reincarnation, which means that we will be different creatures (different gender, different personality, different appearance etc.) in our other lives (!) In other words, it means that a person that dies is gone forever, which is actually a very materialistic point of view again if you read between the lines.
- Some spiritualists think that death is something positive as spirit confined to the physical body will be set free and unite with God and become one. This deviant view also praises suicides.
- People, who believe that people have spirits, mostly swap the belief for the Judgment Day with reincarnation and thus, they reject the belief in reward and punishment in the afterlife and eliminate Heaven and Hell, attributing symbolic meanings to both. In addition, they adopt ascetic lifestyles and scorn the beauties, provisions God gives us (in this world and in the other world).
- People who believe in the spirits are more likely to be cheated by the jinns.
Regards
Emre_1974tr (Emre Karak?se)
heaven is not paradise. Heaven =universe
Heavens = universes
The Qur'an offers a multi-universe model.
But it is not infinite.
Seven universes, for example.
Other universes have planets too.
65.12 Allah is the one who created seven Heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); [Allah's] command descends among them so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything.
Example "Floor of Lord" (Indallah) = afterlife universe
Except for the Hereafter universe, all the other universes will end with big crunch.
21:104 On the day when We roll up the heavens like a scroll of books is rolled up. As We initiated the first creation, so shall We return it. It is a promise of Ours that We will do this.
39:67 They have not given God His true worth; and the whole earth is within His fist on the day of resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Be He glorified; He is much too high above what they set up.
The Noah Flood was regional.
It was only for the people of Noah.
Probably Noah and the community lived on an island.
And only the people of Noah were destroyed.
Allah punishes badmen only.
Only the Qur'an tells the truth.
The Qur'an clearly states that the Flood was regional.
No rajm in Islam
2 ? The adulteress and the adulterer should be flogged a hundred lashes (jalda) each. Do not be swayed by kindness from carrying out God?s law, if you believe in God and the Last Day. And the punishment should be witnessed by a group of believers.
24 The Light, 2
http://quranic.org/rajm-stoning-to-death/
Rajm is Judaism practise.
And, circumcision, the headscarf is Jewish (and Christian) practice. too.
Spirits/ghosts are pagan belivings and from Christianity.
The true Sunnah of the Prophets is only in the Qur'an.
Example, the knowledge that Prophet Jesus was not crucified exists only in the Qur'an.
The prophets were not ascetic or poor.
David and Solomon were successful prophets.
They are in Paradise now.
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on January 01, 2018, 09:00:37 AM
Examples:
Quran 50:38 We have created the heavens, the earth and what is between them in six days, and no fatigue touched Us.
Quran 7:40 Those who have denied Our signs, and reacted to them with arrogance, the gates of the sky will not open for them, nor will they enter paradise until the camel passes through the eye of a needle. It is such that We recompense the criminals.
1- God is not tired.
2- Not rich people, the disbelievers/bad peoples will go to hell.
Do you know how to read Hebrew and Greek? Because the Tora and the Injeel are in those languages.
Again:
Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself.
Quran only allows a war of defense.
If you read the full of the verses, you will always see the struggle with the attackers in the defense battle.
Example;
2:190 Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors.
2:191 Fight them wherever you meet them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. Do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then fight them. Thus is the reward of those who do not appreciate.
2:192 If they cease, then God is Forgiving, Compassionate.
2:193 Fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God's. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.
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Here again, He says, fight with the attackers.
But if you pull out a single verse. You make it look like saying the opposite.
And look at:
49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.
As you can see saying, if the attackers are Muslims, stop them too.
And;
Adam and his wife, Then other some people were also created from direct soil.
2:36 So, the devil tricked both and he brought both of them out from what they were in, and We said, "Descend, you are all enemies of one another. In the land shall be stability for you and luxury for a while."
2:37 Adam then received words from His Lord, so He forgave him; He is the Forgiver, the Compassionate.
2:38 We said, "Descend from it all of you, so when the guidance comes from Me, then whoever follows My guidance, they will have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve."
The 36th verse refers to the descent of the first man Adam and his wife as a result of forbidding approach, while the 38th verse points out that some other people created for this world are also gathering together. Because 36th is already given orders, at 38th it is said again and again this time "all of you are going down" and also the future of the ambassadors.
According to the Qur'an, Adam and his wife have sinned together. The verses do not blame the woman.
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Some other people, from Adam and his wife were created in the garden.
We were already created to test / confront ourselves.
We are not in the world because of Adam and his wife's fruit eating.
3:67 "Abraham was neither Jewish, nor Christian; he was a monotheist submitter. He never was an idol worshiper."
Allah always sends us the religion of Islam.
But people have always changed their religion, books in the past.
They even changed the names of their religions. Like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism.
There is only one God and always sends the same religion.
Abraham, Jesus, Muhammad are all true Prophet of Islam.
Christians worship/believe 3(three) gods.
And In addition , their saints and priests like their Gods.
They share in the judgment of God (In christianity).
9:31 "They took their scholars and priests to be lords besides God, and the Messiah son of Mary, while they were only commanded to serve One god, there is no god but He, be He glorified for what they set up."
The Pagans think they believe in one God, but in reality they have faith in many gods.
Example; Hindus saying "333 in 1" and Christians saying "3 in 1".
Quran 21:43 Or do they have gods that will protect them from Us? They cannot help themselves, nor can they be protected from Us.
The verse tells one of the reasons for the to attribute a partner to (God) of the villains; To seek refuge in the imaginary gods to protect themselves from God...
For example, seeing Jesus as a partner in God is a kind of.
Bad people seek refuge in the partners to escape from God.
The age of the universe is three times the age of our Earth.
Quran 50:38. We assuredly created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, and nothing of fatigue touched us.
Quran 41.9 Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals? That is the Lord of the worlds."
The verses say the universes and our universe have been created in 6 days/stages, and our Earth is in 2 days/phases.
So the age or creation phase of the universe means three times the age of our Earth or the stage of creation.
Today, science also gives a similar knowledge: Our universe is 13.5 billion years old and our Earth is 4.5 billion years old....
In other words, science indicates that the age of our universe is 3 times the age of our Earth(4.5 X 3 = 13.5).
9:31 "They took their scholars and priests to be lords besides God, and the Messiah son of Mary, while they were only commanded to serve One god, there is no god but He, be He glorified for what they set up."
The Pagans think they believe in one God, but in reality they have faith in many gods.
Example; Hindus saying "333 in 1" and Christians saying "3 in 1".
Communism, idolatry, panteism, holy people, pain, spirits, poverty... These are from Paganism/Spiritualism.
7:32 Say, "Who has forbidden the nice things that God has brought forth for His servants and the good provisions?" Say, "They are in this worldly life for those who acknowledge, and they will be exclusive for them on the day of Resurrection" We thus explain the signs for those who know.
God's blessings are a gift to us.
But, such as Christianity and Hinduism, pagan teachings are to prohibit the blessings of the world and the hereafter.
"Pharaoh is a title given to Egyptian rulers in the New Kingdom (not before).
For centuries it was thought that all Egyptian rulers were referred to as Pharaohs. Actually the Christian Bible insists that Abraham and Joseph interacted with Pharaohs. However modern discoveries show that this cannot be true. Pharaoh is a title given to rulers in the Egyptian New Kingdom, not before. So there were no Pharaohs at the time of Abraham or Joseph. They were just kings. But the Quran didn't do this mistake. The Quran correctly addressed the ruler at the time of Joseph as King, and correctly addressed the ruler at the time of Moses as Pharaoh.
The Egyptian ruler at time of Joseph was a king:
[Quran 12:52] The king said, "Bring him to me, and I will reserve him for myself." And when he spoke to him, he said, "This day you are with us established and secure."
The Egyptian ruler at time of Moses was a Pharaoh:
[Quran 40:26[ Pharaoh said, "Let me kill Moses, and let him appeal to his Lord. I fear he may change your religion, or spread disorder in the land."
http://www.speed-light.info/miracles_of_quran/pharaoh.htm
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on January 07, 2018, 07:17:16 PM
"Pharaoh is a title given to Egyptian rulers in the New Kingdom (not before).
For centuries it was thought that all Egyptian rulers were referred to as Pharaohs. Actually the Christian Bible insists that Abraham and Joseph interacted with Pharaohs. However modern discoveries show that this cannot be true. Pharaoh is a title given to rulers in the Egyptian New Kingdom, not before. So there were no Pharaohs at the time of Abraham or Joseph. They were just kings. But the Quran didn't do this mistake. The Quran correctly addressed the ruler at the time of Joseph as King, and correctly addressed the ruler at the time of Moses as Pharaoh.
The Egyptian ruler at time of Joseph was a king:
[Quran 12:52] The king said, "Bring him to me, and I will reserve him for myself." And when he spoke to him, he said, "This day you are with us established and secure."
The Egyptian ruler at time of Moses was a Pharaoh:
[Quran 40:26[ Pharaoh said, "Let me kill Moses, and let him appeal to his Lord. I fear he may change your religion, or spread disorder in the land."
http://www.speed-light.info/miracles_of_quran/pharaoh.htm
Fir3awn is not a title but the individualised name of a tyrant given in the Qur'an. And the events are nothing to do with Egypt.
See:
Quote from: The Sardar on January 03, 2018, 02:00:27 PM
Salam everyone i would like to post 4 links of pdf about Arabia: The Untold Story if it is alright with you.
Book 1: Search for Pharaoh
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/1st-E-Book_Search-for-Pharaoh.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/1st-E-Book_Search-for-Pharaoh.pdf)
Book 2: Road of the Patriarch
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/2nd-E-Book_Road-of-the-Patriarch.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/2nd-E-Book_Road-of-the-Patriarch.pdf)
Book 3: Israel and Sheba
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/3rd-E-Book_Israel-and-Sheba.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/3rd-E-Book_Israel-and-Sheba.pdf)
Book 4: The Assyrian Storm
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/4th-E-Book_The-Assyrian-Storm.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/4th-E-Book_The-Assyrian-Storm.pdf)
Peace be upon you all! :group: :group:
Salaam
Salam Huruf you love it when post these e-books huh? ;D
Quote from: huruf on January 08, 2018, 04:12:15 AM
Fir3awn is not a title but the individualised name of a tyrant given in the Qur'an. And the events are nothing to do with Egypt.
See:
Salaam
Pharao was from Egypt. Read the Quran, read the Tauwrat. It's very clear.
Repeating over and over something does not make it true. References have been given for this question in which you do nto seem to have any interest. If you at least took the trouble to understand there might be a dialogue, but to repeat what is lready debunked is a waste of time and discourtesy.
The statements inthe Qur'an deny any possility that those stories happenned in Egypt.
Salaam
No Mr./Mrs. Huruf.
They were in ancient Egyptian civilization.
Read my Turkish article:
http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2011/07/msr-firavunlarnn-caprazlama-merak.html
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on January 08, 2018, 06:02:35 PM
No Mr./Mrs. Huruf.
They were in ancient Egyptian civilization.
Read my Turkish article:
http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2011/07/msr-firavunlarnn-caprazlama-merak.html
I can't read turkish. However I can read Arabic, and what the Qur'an says in the episodes of Yusuf and Musa does not at all Egypt, Ancient Egypt. You should examine it attentively and also read:
Quote from: The Sardar on January 03, 2018, 02:00:27 PM
Salam everyone i would like to post 4 links of pdf about Arabia: The Untold Story if it is alright with you.
Book 1: Search for Pharaoh
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/1st-E-Book_Search-for-Pharaoh.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/1st-E-Book_Search-for-Pharaoh.pdf)
Book 2: Road of the Patriarch
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/2nd-E-Book_Road-of-the-Patriarch.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/2nd-E-Book_Road-of-the-Patriarch.pdf)
Book 3: Israel and Sheba
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/3rd-E-Book_Israel-and-Sheba.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/3rd-E-Book_Israel-and-Sheba.pdf)
Book 4: The Assyrian Storm
https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/4th-E-Book_The-Assyrian-Storm.pdf (https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/4th-E-Book_The-Assyrian-Storm.pdf)
Peace be upon you all! :group: :group:
It has been discussed very recently int he forum.
Salaam
Quote from: huruf on January 09, 2018, 02:17:16 AM
I can't read turkish. However I can read Arabic, and what the Qur'an says in the episodes of Yusuf and Musa does not at all Egypt, Ancient Egypt. You should examine it attentively and also read:
It has been discussed very recently int he forum.
Salaam
Oh Huruf, you make feel like a happy cat.
They were in ancient Egyptian civilization.
I'm showing it with proof. It also proves that the new miracle of Quran.
Meanwhile, the boundaries of ancient Egyptian civilization may stretch to Anatolia.
Quran 112:3 "Never did He beget, nor was He begotten,"
Quran 112:4 "None is equal to Him."
Quran 43:15 They assigned a share to Him from His own servants! The human being is clearly denying.
Pantheism, Trinity,Polytheism are wrong.
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on January 09, 2018, 08:44:11 AM
Quran 112:3 "Never did He beget, nor was He begotten,"
Quran 112:4 "None is equal to Him."
Quran 43:15 They assigned a share to Him from His own servants! The human being is clearly denying.
Pantheism, Trinity,Polytheism are wrong.
Where does the Bible teach a Trinity?
Quote from: The Sardar on January 09, 2018, 02:57:44 AM
Oh Huruf, you make feel like a happy cat.
That is great. I am so proud I have made somebody happy int he forum... at least as happy as a cat.
:yay: :yay:
Salaam
I wrote in English.
https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609989.msg412402;topicseen#msg412402
Regards
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on January 09, 2018, 08:44:11 AM
Quran 112:3 "Never did He beget, nor was He begotten,"
Quran 112:4 "None is equal to Him."
Quran 43:15 They assigned a share to Him from His own servants! The human being is clearly denying.
Pantheism, Trinity,Polytheism are wrong.
Where does the Bible teach a Trinity?
There's no one else named Joshua.
He was Jesus.
Jesus is the nephew of Moses and he has come to earth much earlier than you think.
2:102 They followed what the devils recited regarding Solomon's kingship. Solomon did not reject, but it was the devils that rejected by teaching people magic and what was sent down on the two controllers in Babylon, Haroot and Maroot. They would not teach anyone until they would say, "We are a test, so do not be unappreciative!" Thus, they teach what can separate a person from his mate; but they cannot harm anyone except by God's permission. They learn what harms them and does not benefit them, and they have known that he who purchases such a thing has no place in the Hereafter. Miserable indeed is what they traded themselves with; if only they knew!
38:40 He has deserved a near position with Us, and a wonderful abode.
.....
I showed that the Injils in the market were books of hadith.
And listen to Taner Eon Lopez :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TQ03KqxD2I
https://www.amazon.com/Evolving-Gospels-Apotheosis-Jesus/dp/150581880X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1517445531&sr=1-1
Earth is a rotating sphere.
The Quran says that when the night and the day overlap, they make a ball (sphere):
http://www.speed-light.info/miracles_of_quran/earth.htm
Peace
No rajm
2 ? The adulteress and the adulterer should be flogged a hundred lashes (jalda) each. Do not be swayed by kindness from carrying out God?s law, if you believe in God and the Last Day. And the punishment should be witnessed by a group of believers.
24 The Light, 2
There is no rajm in real Islam.
And it corrects the mistake of the false Torah.
There are Three times prayers/salaat in a day.
The Qur'an tells all the details of the salaat.
http://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/al-salat_(P1192).html
The real Injil and the real Torah had this information. But in the fake Injils and Torah, this information was extracted and forgotten.
There's crumbs left.
Daniel 6;10
Now when Daniel learned that the decree had been published, he went home to his upstairs room where the windows opened toward Jerusalem. Three times a day he got down on his knees and prayed, giving thanks to his God, just as he had done before.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AjUXqBD3DkU/UP3d5f4ZEfI/AAAAAAAAAZk/U6H1MWY3JXk/s1600/Kneeling.Poynter%2527s_Daniel%2527s_Prayer.fair%2Buse.jpg)
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on January 12, 2018, 12:28:57 PM
There's no one else named Joshua.
He was Jesus.
Jesus is the nephew of Moses and he has come to earth much earlier than you think.
"
Ahmed Osman also noticed this fact in part.
"Jesus and Joshua were one and the same and that this person was likewise the pharaoh Tutankhamun"
(Jesus in the House of the Pharaohs)
Peace Emre.
So Beni Israeel were given the Torah and Injeel at the same time?
Or what is your explanation?
GOD bless you.
Peace.
What is exactly el injil according to Qur'an?
Because it seems nobody up to now has given a clear definition or description, but everybody speaks about it as if it was a single piece clearcut and absolutely known.
If we cling to the meaning of the word it would be something like "generations" and it would make sense to assign it precisely to the generations after Musa and Har?n, that is, the son of Maryam and the son of Zakariya, and if we absolutely want to make the Qur'anic persons match something of the Bible, I do think that Josua seems the most likely match of 3isa Ibnu Maryam, daughter of the wife of 3imraan and therefore of 3imraan.
Again what exactly does anybody understand by "the" injil. Without that we are talking entirely at cross purposes.
It is quite a few years now that I see people speaking "authoritatively" on the injil and finally I doubt that anybody does know exactly about what he or she is speaking.
Salaam
Quote from: good logic on March 05, 2018, 02:55:09 AM
Peace Emre.
So Beni Israeel were given the Torah and Injeel at the same time?
Or what is your explanation?
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Hi,
Not at the same time, but recently.
Thus it was also reported that the temporary penalties / haram were removed. Because the punishment was only for the community. Their children and grandchildren were innocent.
Peace
And that explains why Osiris and Horus stories look like Jesus ' life story.
12:4 When Joseph said to his father: "My father, I have seen eleven planets and the sun and the moon, I saw them prostrating before me."
12:100 He raised his parents on the throne, and all fell in prostration before Him. He said, "My father, this is the interpretation of my old dream. My Lord has made it true, and He has been good to me that he took me out of prison and brought you out of the wilderness after the devil had placed a rift between me and my brothers. My Lord is kind to whom He wills. He is the Knowledgeable, the Wise."
Joseph's mother lives and his dream came true.
How the Quran Corrects the Bible
https://quranbible.org/english.htm
The story of a former christian youth minister:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P912yw0Wc5M
"The question still remains, why are more women converting than men to Islam ?
Perhaps they realize their Soul is worth the Factual Research.
1. The Bible Convicts Women as the original
Sinners, (ie. Eve picking from the forbidden
tree){Genesis 2:4-3:24}. The Koran Clarifies it
was Adam Not Eve {Qur'an 7:19-25}
2. The Bible says "The Birth of a Daughter is a
loss" {Ecclesiasticus 22:3}. The Qur'an says both
are an Equal Blessing { Qur'an 42:49}
3. The Bible Forbids Women from Speaking in
church {I Corinthians 14:34-35}. The Qur'an says
Women Can argue with the Prophet {58:1}
4. In the Bible, divorced Women are Labeled as
an Adulteress, while men are not {Matthew 5:31-32}. The
Koran does Not have Biblical double standards
{ Qur'an 30:21}
5. In The Bible, Widows and Sisters do Not
Inherit Any Property or Wealth, Only men
do{Numbers 27:1-11}The Koran Abolished this
male greediness { Qur'an 4:22} and God Protects
All.
6. The Bible Allows Multiple Wives{I Kings 11:3}
In The Koran, God limits the number to 4 only
under certain situations (with the Wife's
permission)and Prefers you Marry Only One
Wife{ Qur'an 4:3} The Koran gives the Woman
the Right to Choose who to Marry.
7. "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not
pledged to be married and rapes her and they are
discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty
shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he
has violated her. He can never divorce her as long
as he lives" {Deuteronomy 22:28-30}
One must ask a simple question here, who is
really punished, the man who raped the woman or
the woman who was raped? According to the
Bible, you have to spend the Rest of Your Life
with the man who Raped You.
Would the Christian men Reading this prefer the
Women they know to Be Christian or Muslim?
8. The Bible also asks Women to wear veils as in
Islam {I Corinthians 11:3-10}, this lowers the
chance of rape, (God Forbid), see statistic link
below.
9. Women were given rights to Vote less than a
100 years ago in the (US), while the Quran (42:38) gave
Women Voting rights almost 1,500 years ago.
10. Islam has unconfined Women and has given them
the human right to reach for the sky. There have been
Muslim Women Presidents through out the centuries,
but to this date, the oppressive mentality of the
men in the Western U.S.A. has stopped any Women from becoming
Presidents in predominately Christian countries,
while the Muslim countries have voted for and
elected Female Presidents."
https://jews-for-allah.org/Why-Believe-in-Allah/Jewish-Women-Converting-to-Islam.htm
Errancy; Children are born pure, without sin XE "sin" (Leviticus 11:44, 19:2, 20:7) Vs Children are born wicked sinners (Psalms 58:3)
Excuse; That is what it says but that is not what it means. (Psalms 58:3) is speaking about the potential to commit sin XE "sin" , not being an actual sinner.
Rebuttal: (See Reply letter [E] in Rebuttal Chart). The language and context used is that of one who is a sinner, not of one who will be a sinner.
?The wicked are estranged from the womb? -not- ?will be? (future tense), instead ?are? (present tense)
?they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.?
not will go astray as adults.
Furthermore, Paul also adopts the absurdity that children are sinners by claiming;
?Wherefore, as by one man sin XE "sin" entered into the world, and death XE "death" by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned? (Romans 5:12)
Correction: The Quran corrects the fallacy that children are inherently evil or have contracted sin XE "sin" of previous generations;
?We have indeed created man in the best of moulds.? (Quran 95:4)
"Say, "Shall I seek other than God as a Lord when He is the Lord of everything?" Every person earns what is for it, and none will bear the burden of another. Then to your Lord is your return and He will inform you regarding your disputes " (Quran 6:164)
" If you reject, then know that God is in no need of you, and He dislikes rejection for His servants. If you are appreciative, He is pleased for you. None shall bear the burdens of another. Then to your Lord is your return, and He will inform you of everything you had done. He is fully aware of what is inside the chests." (Quran 39:7)
https://quranbible.org/english.htm#_Toc96948618
"Errancy; Women are not property, except in the Bible (Exodus 21:7-11) A father can sell a daughter into slavery XE "slavery" to pay a debt. A daughter sold into slavery is not released at the end of six years as is an ordinary male slave.
Excuse; None available.
Correction: Fortunately, for all of us, God gave us our rights and freedom in the Quran over 1400 years ago. We do not have to be enslaved to the laws of the Bible:
God says: ?O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women XE "women" against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may Take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Allah brings about through it a great deal of good.? (Quran 4:19)
Regarding a parent?s debt or poverty, we are commanded in the Quran not to slay children to alleviate poverty:
?Say: Come I will recite what your Lord has forbidden to you-(remember) that you do not associate anything with Him and show kindness to your parents, and do not slay your children for (fear XE "fear" of) poverty - We provide for you and for them? (Quran 6:151)"
https://quranbible.org/english.htm#_Toc96948618
Quran 95:4 We have created the human being in the best form.
Quran 4:118 God has cursed him; and he had said, "I will take from Your servants a sizeable portion."
Quran 4:119 "I will misguide them and make them desire, and I will command them, so that they will mark the ears of the livestock, and I will command them so they will make change to God's creation." Whoever takes the devil as a supporter other than God, then he has indeed lost a great loss.
Human circumcision is out of religious/Islam.
Errancy; In the Biblical version, almost all prophets seem to commit major sins in faith and moral standing. Within the Bible, some of the shameful deeds attributed to prophets include; Aaron XE "Aaron" ?s idol worship;
?Aaron XE "Aaron" said to people of Israel XE "Israel" , ?take off the rings of Gold which are in the ears of your wives, your sons and your daughters.? So they took off the rings of gold, and brought them to Aaron. And he received the golf at their hand and fashioned it with a graving tool and made a molten calf and they said, ?These are your Gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt.? (Exodus. 32:2)
Excuse; None available.
Correction: The Biblical concept of prophet hood is also radically different from the one presented in the Quran. The Quran depicts prophets as the best model of piety and moral uprightness. The Quran refutes this claim against Aaron XE "Aaron" ;
?(Allah) said: ?We have tested thy people in thy absence: the Samiri has led them astray.? So Moses XE "Moses" returned to his people in a state of indignation and sorrow. He said: ?O my people! did not your Lord make a handsome promise to you? Did then the promise seem to you long (in coming)? Or did ye desire that Wrath should descend from your Lord on you, and so ye broke your promise to me??
?They said: ?We broke not the promise to thee, as far as lay in our power: but we were made to carry the weight of the ornaments of the (whole) people, and we threw them (into the fire), and that was what the Samiri suggested.
?Then he brought out (of the fire) before the (people) the image of a calf: It seemed to low: so they said: This is your god, and the god of Moses XE "Moses" , but (Moses) has forgotten! Could they not see that it could not return them a word (for answer), and that it had no power either to harm them or to do them good??
?Aaron XE "Aaron" had already, before this said to them: ?O my people! ye are being tested in this: for verily your Lord is (Allah) Most Gracious; so follow me and obey my command. They had said: ?We will not abandon this cult, but we will devote ourselves to it until Moses XE "Moses" returns to us. (Moses) said: ?O Aaron! what kept thee back, when thou sawest them going wrong, from following me? Didst thou then disobey my order??
?(Aaron XE "Aaron" ) replied: ?O son of my mother! Seize (me) not by my beard nor by (the hair of) my head! Truly I feared lest thou shouldst say, ?Thou has caused a division among the children of Israel XE "Israel" , and thou didst not respect my word!?? (Quran 20:85-94)
The Quran clears Aaron XE "Aaron" of participation in the making and worshipping of the golden calf as the Bible portrays. The Quran illuminates the fact that Aaron was simply not as strong as Moses XE "Moses" , being the weaker brother of Moses; Aaron could not control the Israelites as Moses could, despite pleas by Aaron for the Israelites to stop.
?Not a messenger did We send before thee without this inspiration sent by Us to him: that there is no god but I; therefore worship and serve Me. And they say: ?(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten offspring.? Glory to Him! They are (but) servants raised to honor. They speak not before He speaks, and they act (in all things) by His Command.? (Quran 21:25-27)
https://quranbible.org/english.htm#_Toc96948618
This is how the Quran (sound argument) confirms and correct previous texts, including the laws and all epistemological texts whatsoever etc ... "He made all gods same god 38:5"
(https://scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/33021466_2103024859914094_2534401368907579392_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=d3d9c4f7a507de6b14d7dbc10efe53bc&oe=5CE35016)
Say: 'We believe in that which has been revealed to us and was revealed to you. Our God and your God is one and the same. To Him we submit as Muslims ( = make peace with Natural Order or Interpretation / Nature).' (29:46)
Errancy; Trees were created before man was created (Genesis 1:11-12, 26-27) Vs Man was created before trees were created. (Genesis 2:4-9)
Excuse; None available.
Correction: We see that the sequence is outlined correctly and without discrepancy in the Quran:
?Is not He (best) who created the heavens and the earth XE "earth" , and sendeth down for you water from the sky wherewith We cause to spring forth joyous orchards, whose trees it never hath been yours to cause to grow. Is there any God beside Allah? Nay, but they are folk who ascribe equals (unto Him)!? (Quran 27:60)
?Hast thou not seen that unto Allah payeth adoration whosoever is in the heavens and whosoever is in the earth XE "earth" , and the sun, and the moon, and the stars, and the hills, and the trees, and the beasts, and many of mankind, while there are many unto whom the doom is justly due. He whom Allah scorneth, there is none to give him honor. Lo! Allah doeth what He will.? (Quran 22:18)
https://quranbible.org/english.htm#_Toc96948618
"The Bible describes the light of the sun and moon in the following verse:
God made two great lights?the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. [Genesis 1:16]
What?s interesting is that the same Hebrew word, ?ma?owr?, which means ?light, luminary?, is used to describe the light of both the sun and moon. If this is interpreted literally then it is scientifically inaccurate, as it would indicate that the sun and the moon are similar when it comes to light. The reality is that the sun emits its own light whereas the moon reflects light from the sun, like a mirror. This is exactly how the Qur?an describes the sun and moon:
Blessed is He who has placed in the sky great stars and placed therein a [burning] lamp and luminous moon. [Qur?an 25:61]"
http://www.manyprophetsonemessage.com/2014/06/11/how-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/
"Why Lot?s wife died?"
"Errancy; Lot?s wife died a horrible death XE "death" with no valid explanation except that she turned around while the town was being destroyed.
According to the Bible, she was righteous and did not deserve to die because the angels XE "angels" of God themselves urged Lot to rescue her;
?With the coming of dawn, the angels XE "angels" urged Lot, saying, ?Hurry! Take your wife and your two daughters who are here, or you will be swept away when the city is punished.? (Genesis 19:15)
As they ran away from their town which was about to be destroyed by God, Lot?s wife turned around (surely a natural reaction, having heard havoc and destruction behind her). When she turned around in the Bible, she was unjustly annihilated;
?But Lot?s wife looked back and was turned into a pillar of salt? (Genesis 19:26)
Excuse; Lot?s wife was destroyed because she disobeyed the angel who said;
?Run for your lives! Don?t look back and don?t stop in the valley. Run to the hills, so that you won?t be killed.? (Genesis 19:17)
Rebuttal: This is an invalid excuse because Lot did even worse. Lot not only stopped (a direct defiance to the angel?s instructions), but also argued with them;
?But Lot answered, ?No, please don?t make us do that, sir. You have done me a great favor and saved my life. But the hills are too far away; the disaster will overtake me, and I will die before I get there. Do you see that little town? It is near enough. Let me go over there?you can see it is just a small place?and I will be safe.? (Genesis 19:18-20)
After stopping to argue with the angel, Lot was not destroyed, thus invalidating that excuse. Furthermore, Lot appears suspiciously selfish when arguing with the angel, repeatedly saying, ?so I can be safe?, rather than including his wife who was not killed yet by stating; ?so we can be safe?.
Correction: What appears as unjustified and incompetence in the Bible (a Prophet and the angels XE "angels" of God could not rescue the wife), is actually comprehended in the Quran. The Quran explains why Prophet Lot?s wife died;
?And We rescued him and his household, except his wife, who was of those who stayed behind.? (Quran 7: 83)
?Allah citeth an example for those who disbelieve: the wife of Noah XE "Noah" and the wife of Lot, who were under two of our righteous servants yet betrayed them so that they (the husbands availed them naught against Allah and it was said (unto them): Enter the Fire along with those who enter.? (Quran 66:10)
The Holy Quran explains that the fact of the matter was Lot?s wife stayed a transgressor who was destroyed among the other non-believers of Lot."
https://quranbible.org/english.htm#_Toc96948593
God/Allah saying, except for the Hereafter universe, all the other universes will end with Big Crunch:
Quran 21:104 On the day when We roll up the heavens like a scroll of books is rolled up. As We initiated the first creation, so shall We return it. It is a promise of Ours that We will do this.
Quran 39:67 They have not given God His true worth; and the whole earth is within His fist on the day of resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Be He glorified; He is much too high above what they set up.
And;
heaven is not paradise. Heaven =universe
Heavens = universes
The Qur'an offers a multi-universe model.
But it is not infinite.
Seven universes, for example.
Other universes have planets too.
Quran 65.12 Allah is the one who created seven Heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); [Allah's] command descends among them so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything.
Example "Floor of Lord" (Indallah) = afterlife universe
The fake Bible and the Christians have confused the Hereafter universe(Floor of Lord) with our universe.
And the False Bible has confused the Earth and the planets of universe of the Hereafter(Floor of Lord).
But the Qur'an tells the truth. Our universe and other Universes will be destroyed. Only the afterlife universe(Floor of Lord) will continue to live forever. And we will live not on Earth, but on planets in the Hereafter universe.
"Reap what you sow?
Contradiction; Some sow wheat but reap thorns. (Jeremiah 12:13) Vs Some sow but will not reap anything. (Micah 6:15) Vs Some reap without sowing. (Matthew 25:26, Luke 19:22) Vs A man reaps what he sows. (2 Corinthians 9:6, Galatians 6:7)
Excuse; The first are materialistic sowing, thus uneven, the last is afterlife spiritual sowing, thus even.
Rebuttal: This would be acceptable albeit for the passage stating that the righteous reap what they sow in this life, hence materialistic terms;
"Behold, the righteous shall be recompensed in the earth: much more the wicked and the sinner." (Proverbs 11:31) because (Matthew 25:26, Luke 19:22) speaks of the wicked materialistically getting more than the righteous.
Therefore, even if it is in materialistic terms, it is in contradiction to (Proverbs 11:31)
Correction: The Quran is very clear that humans get what they deserve. In an accountable fashion, God is Fair and Bountiful. People are punished for the bad and greatly rewarded for the good:
"Surely Allah does not do injustice to the weight of an atom, and if it is a good deed He multiplies it and gives from Himself a great reward." (Quran 4:40)"
http://islamicbook.com/free/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/
"Moses
Name means "newborn" in ancient Egyptian.
The Bible claims that "Moses" is a Hebrew name, however those who named him weren't Hebrew. Pharaoh and his family were Egyptians. Today Egyptologists discovered the Egyptian meaning of the word "Moses"."
http://www.miracles-of-quran.com/moses_name.htm
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on August 11, 2019, 07:37:06 PM
"Moses
Name means "newborn" in ancient Egyptian.
The Bible claims that "Moses" is a Hebrew name, however those who named him weren't Hebrew. Pharaoh and his family were Egyptians. Today Egyptologists discovered the Egyptian meaning of the word "Moses"."
http://www.miracles-of-quran.com/moses_name.htm
Mus and his people have nothing to do with ancient egypt. Musa Arabic means blade, like in razor blade, which fits with the profet Musa: cut the crap.
Salaam
In ancient Egypt, the mark of "X" and the symbol of cross-bones in the symbol of an X was very prominent in religious contexts.
https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609989.0
Moses is an Egyptian, Hebrew or Arabs Name?? :rotfl: :rotfl:
It's similar to debating whether Zavier is a Catalan, Basque or Portuguese name...
Or Lee is a Manchu, Hakka or Chinese name...
Even the name/label of Egypt, Misr, Hebrew or Arabs did not exist during Moses time, presumably if he was living around 1300-1500 BC let alone an identity with such name.
This is the political map of (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions/wikihiero/img/hiero_I6.png?19fec)(https://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions/wikihiero/img/hiero_G17.png?3741e) (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions/wikihiero/img/hiero_O49.png?dd778) empire, or latinized "Kemet Empire", (literally "Black Land Empire") at it's largest extent around 1500 BC.
Just before the "Bronze Age Collapse"...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Egypt_NK_edit.svg/800px-Egypt_NK_edit.svg.png)
Egypt is the name given by the Greeks for Egypt (Aigyptos) commonly used after the fall of Kemet empire to the invasion of Alexander from Macedon, which give birth to Hellenistic Empire of Aigyptos (the era of Ptolemy, Cleopatra etc as it's Pharaoh). Misr / Mizraim is a name given by the (later) Canaanite tribe people for Egypt.
Peace.
Names have nothing to do with languages. Moses is a name of a person in all languages even future invented ones.
The problem of spelling a name or changing it a bit when translated into languages is irrelevant. Moses will be recognised in all languages as ;Moses, Mussa. Moshe....
And Egypt or Misr will be recognised as the same place regardless of languages..
Jafar the person is the "jafar,Jahfaar,...." of all languages.
GOD bless.
Peace.
Quote from: good logic on August 17, 2019, 06:52:25 AM
Names have nothing to do with languages. Moses is a name of a person in all languages even future invented ones.
The problem of spelling a name or changing it a bit when translated into languages is irrelevant. Moses will be recognised in all languages as ;Moses, Mussa. Moshe....
And Egypt or Misr will be recognised as the same place regardless of languages..
Jafar the person is the "jafar,Jahfaar,...." of all languages.
Names is part of language, the "Kemetians" name for "Moses" might be different.
Who knows what he was called by Kemetians.
Jafar is my Arabic / Persian name, in today's Egyptian Arabic it will be Gafar in Turkish it will be Cafer.
My chinese friends has problems spelling my name thus they change it to "Chan".
And Chinese never call themselves as China they call their own country as "Zhung Guo". (Literally: The center Kingdom)
Thus the correct statement should Jafar in "Zhung Guo" is recognized as "Chan".
But in reality you recognise your name as Jafar or Gafar or...whichever language you happened to be born in. All the other different spellings... are translations. to the name Jafar.
Take Moses for example, Whatever other languages call him, his identity cannot change.
So I was agreeing with you in that it does not matter what language calls "Moses", the character at the time and his story do not change.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Quote from: good logic on August 17, 2019, 12:45:18 PM
But in reality you recognise your name as Jafar or Gafar or...whichever language you happened to be born in. All the other different spellings... are translations. to the name Jafar.
Take Moses for example, Whatever other languages call him, his identity cannot change.
So I was agreeing with you in that it does not matter what language calls "Moses", the character at the time and his story do not change.
All are other names a.k.a aliases to the identity of Jafar.
And the identity of "Moshe" is an Israelite identity, so far it doesn't have any matching parallel within Kemetians records.
There isn't any record so far found within Kemetian's remains which told the stories of how their king / Phroo met this "Moshe", which lead the slave rebellion and escape through the red / reed sea which resulted in the drowning of their Phroo.
Yet we cannot say that this "Moshe" didn't exist just because it doesn't have any parallel within Kemetian records.
Kemetians are fond of changing and innovating historical records, especially when the events is not in favorable for them.
We have evidence of 'fictional' records on how their Phroo were winning the war with the Hittites while the stories doesn't match with Assyrian and Hittites records where it says that the Kemetian and Hittites has reached a truce agreement.
We also have another evidence of how Kemetians deliberately erased one of their Phroo from historical records just because it was a female phroo.
https://youtu.be/1Kfib_YzhAk
Kemetians are among the earliest civilization who invented "Political Propaganda", altering the story of past true events aimed for consumption and controlling the mind of common folks.
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on August 11, 2019, 07:37:06 PM
"Moses
Name means "newborn" in ancient Egyptian.
The Bible claims that "Moses" is a Hebrew name, however those who named him weren't Hebrew. Pharaoh and his family were Egyptians. Today Egyptologists discovered the Egyptian meaning of the word "Moses"."
http://www.miracles-of-quran.com/moses_name.htm
And;
Joshua was Jesus
Jesus is the nephew of Moses and he has come to earth much earlier than you think.
The Yusha/Joshua mentioned in the False Torah(hadith book) is actually Isa/Jesus.
I showed this in my Turkish article:
http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2018/03/isa-peygamber-musa-ve-harun.html
I said that Jesus/Joshua is the nephew of Moses and he lived in much older times than your think. And he was born in Ancient Egypt..
The pharaohons had a culture of cross-hands and feet. (and cutting theme with X shape/crosswise).
The stories of Osiris and Horus were inspired by the life of Jesus. Because Jesus lived in an age before.
Unfortunately, people always do what they do. They paganized the life story of the Prophet. Christianity was also created based on this story after centuries.
The placig of the stories of yusuf, musa and Isa in Egypt is nonsense. They were older than the romans of course, but they were not in Egypt. What the Qur'an says about them cannot be Egypt, nothing to do with it.
On the other hand what you say about Osiris and ancient Egyptian ivilisation and culture is colonialist stuff.
Salaam
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on August 18, 2019, 06:37:39 AM
And;
Joshua was Jesus
Jesus is the nephew of Moses and he has come to earth much earlier than you think.
The Yusha/Joshua mentioned in the False Torah(hadith book) is actually Isa/Jesus.
I showed this in my Turkish article:
http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2018/03/isa-peygamber-musa-ve-harun.html
I said that Jesus/Joshua is the nephew of Moses and he lived in much older times than your think. And he was born in Ancient Egypt..
The pharaohons had a culture of cross-hands and feet. (and cutting theme with X shape/crosswise).
The stories of Osiris and Horus were inspired by the life of Jesus. Because Jesus lived in an age before.
Unfortunately, people always do what they do. They paganized the life story of the Prophet. Christianity was also created based on this story after centuries.
And these are miracles of Quran. They lived in ancient Egypt.
https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609989.msg412402;topicseen#msg412402
Quran does not correct the mistakes of the Torah/Injil , the oiriginal Torah and injil are the Quran, They were corrupted by Talmud wich is the mishnah and gemora written by the Rabbis. Just like the understanding of Quran has been corrupted by hadith written by islamic "scholars" .
you can read more in this post #8 on this site
https://thequranspeaksforitself.wordpress.com
"Contradiction; The Bible manifests an unfulfilled prophecy concerning Joseph's dream;
"Then he (Joseph) had another dream, and he told it to his Brothers. "Listen," he said, "I had another dream, and this time the sun and moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me." (Genesis 37:9)
Although the Bible mentions Prophet Joseph's dream, the Bible never shows that his dream was fulfilled. The reason why the Bible does not complete Joseph's dream is due to an irreconcilable sequence of events.
In the Bible, the mother of Prophet Joseph supposedly died when she bore Benjamin.
"And as she was having great difficulty in childbirth, the midwife said to her, "Don't be afraid, for you have another son." As she breathed her last—for she was dying—she named her son Ben-Oni. But his father named him Benjamin. So Rachel died and was buried on the way to Ephrath (that is, Bethlehem). (Genesis 35:17-19)
Rachel is the mother of Joseph and Benjamin; In the Bible, she died two Chapters before Joseph had his dream.
Excuse; None available.
Correction: The Quran mentions this dream at the beginning of the Chapter entitled (Joseph), and shows how it was implemented and thus, fulfilled:
"(Remember) when Yusuf (Joseph) said to his father: "O my father! Verily, I saw (in a dream) eleven stars and the sun and the moon, I saw them prostrating themselves to me." (Quran 12:4)
The Quran never says that his mother died, the proof for this is at the end of the story where Joseph raises both of his parents on his throne.
"And he raised his parents high on the throne (of dignity), and they fell down in prostration, (all) before him. He said: "O my father! this is the fulfillment of my vision of old! Allah hath made it come true! He was indeed good to me when He took me out of prison and brought you (all here) out of the desert, (even) after Satan had sown enmity between me and my brothers. Verily my Lord understandeth best the mysteries of all that He planneth to do, for verily He is full of knowledge and wisdom." (Quran 12:100)"
In the Quran, the dream was realized when his father (The Sun) and his mother (the Moon) and his eleven brothers (stars) bowed down to him.
Bible writers make a mistake when they claim that Joseph's mother died before the adventures of Joseph happened. The Quran clears the divergences that have been injected within Bible."
http://islamicbook.com/free/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on January 01, 2018, 09:03:49 AM
Probably Noah and the community lived on an island.
And only the people of Noah were destroyed.
Allah punishes badmen only.
Only the Qur'an tells the truth.
The Qur'an clearly states that the Flood was regional.
And Noah only took samples from animals in his area.
According to Quran , name of Jesus is "Isa"
and Isa was not crucified.
Today the BBC says something close to this:
https://reportweb.co/bbc-documentary-proves-jesus-was-a-buddhist-monk-named-issa/
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on November 20, 2019, 05:35:06 PM
According to Quran , name of Jesus is "Isa"
and Isa was not crucified.
Today the BBC says something close to this:
https://reportweb.co/bbc-documentary-proves-jesus-was-a-buddhist-monk-named-issa/
If God called Son of Mariam as Issa then it could be his name.... no point of disagreeing it...same about crucifying..
Point here is about the link... I read it... I knew about such message claiming Issa to be a Buddist monk...that also proudly by Buddist while they extremely deny GOD and CREATION..
Unfortunately, I won't agree to that...
Buddism is merely constituted by studying the suffering of human being in a vast level... No place in their ancient existing Theravada Buddism talking about God being the Creator... No such place for God in entire buddism.. Those who claim that there is God, automatically goes offline from being a real buddist...
This is what the much accepted factor in buddism.. They claim they preserve other religious gods and not God/s preserve human... That's why they keep food in temple...They accept away from their buddha teachings the hindu gods for their well being.. That is opposed by Buddha high priests..
We don't know what exactly Buddha preached and what is preserved and practicing now.. But there is no hint of God and creation in Buddism...Since much older Veda scriptures talk about creation and God, how come a dogma which constituted much later than that has no evidence of God in their belief...
If Issa was in greater Bharat (India) then definitely something would have been preserved talking about God in existing buddist teachings...Coz Issa is widely accepted as son of God.. But they strongly deny God to the extent of nullifying being a buddist if accept God... God and creation has no connection with Buddism... if we say so that is only our own misunderstanding while they buddist deny it...
had buddha been a a prophet teaching the verses to his people, i would strongly believe something of God and Creation would have been preserved... But no clue...
According to the false Bible, the number of people who fled Egypt with Moses is in the millions:
The Israelites journeyed from Rameses to Sukkoth. There were about six hundred thousand men on foot, besides women and children. Many other people went up with them, and also large droves of livestock, both flocks and herds. [Exodus 12:37-38]
And as it turns out, this community also met Egypt's labor needs. If millions of such people had actually left the country overnight, considering the scarcity of the world's population at that time, it would have been a terrible exodus mentioned in the history books. That's not the case, of course.
The Qur'an again wrote the truth, and it was a small community that set out with Moses and Aaron:
Quran: And We inspired to Moses, "Travel by night with My servants; indeed, you will be pursued." Then Pharaoh sent among the cities gatherers [And said], "Indeed, those are but a small band" [Chapter 26, verses 52-54]
51:22 In the heaven is your provision, and what you are promised. (Paradise and hell are both ready and outside the world, in the sky)
The prophets living in Paradise will be summoned to the court as witnesses on the Day of Judgment
77:11 And when the messengers are gathered.
heaven is not paradise. Heaven =universe
Heavens = universes
The Qur'an offers a multi-universe model.
But it is not infinite.
Seven universes, for example.
Other universes have planets too.
65.12 Allah is the one who created seven Heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); [Allah's] command descends among them so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything.
Example "Floor of Lord" (Indallah) = afterlife universe
Except for the Hereafter universe, all the other universes will end with big crunch.
21:104 On the day when We roll up the heavens like a scroll of books is rolled up. As We initiated the first creation, so shall We return it. It is a promise of Ours that We will do this.
39:67 They have not given God His true worth; and the whole earth is within His fist on the day of resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Be He glorified; He is much too high above what they set up.
Quran: A man came running from the farthest part of the city, saying: "O my people, follow the messengers. Follow those who do not ask you for any wage, and are guided. Why should I not serve the One who initiated me, and to Him is your ultimate return? Shall I take gods besides Him? If the Gracious intends any harm for me, their intercession cannot help me in the least, nor can they save me. Then I would be clearly astray. I have acknowledged your Lord, so listen to me! It was said, "Enter Paradise." He said "Oh, how I wish my people only knew of what my Lord has forgiven me, and made me of the honored ones."We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the sky; for there was no need to send them down. For all it took was one scream, whereupon they were stilled. (36:20-29)
19:56 And recall in the Book, Enoch; he was a man of truth, a prophet.
19:57 And We raised him to a high place.
3:55 For God said: "O Jesus, I will terminate your life, and raise you to Me, and cleanse you of those who have rejected, and make those who have followed you above those who have rejected until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, all of you,so I will judge between you in what it was that you disputed."
Prophets and very good peoples in Paradise now. They were created in Paradise (floor of Lord/other universe) without waiting for the Hour.
But, Other people will wait for the Resurrection for re-creation.
The Qur'an says that a group of exception people are already living in Paradise.
And it even tells us that some of them are talking about the world's inhabitants. They say "they(World peoples) will come to us later". However, it is difficult to see them for you because the English translations of the Qur'an do not provide complete sentences.
Likewise, the verses of the Lord's Floor are also mentioned, but you cannot see it again in English translations. Because, unfortunately, those under the influence of traditional interpretation make translations in their own understanding.
Yes, according to the Qur'an there are already people living in Paradise.
And that's where Christians believe that Jesus is in paradise.
In the false Gospels, the event was described incorrectly, so you could not see the painting until today.
Jesus and all other messengers/ prophets live in paradise now.
3:169 Do not count that those who are killed in the sake of God are dead. No, they are alive at their Lord receiving provisions.
3:170 Happy with what God has granted them from His grace, and they rejoice in those who have yet to follow after them. There is no fear upon them nor do they grieve.
5:17 Ingrates indeed are those who have said, "God is the Messiah the son of Mary." Say, "Who has any power against God if He had wanted to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, and his mother, and all who are on earth!" To God is the sovereignty of heavens and earth and all that is in-between; He creates what He pleases. God is capable of all things. (Jesus and his mother living in other universe, Like other prophets...)
84:8 He will then receive an easy reckoning.
84:9 He will return to his family in joy! (The person who is called from Paradise to the day of judgment will return to Paradise again with joy)
53:13 Indeed, he saw him in another descent.
53:14 At the ultimate point.
53:15 Next to the eternal Paradise.
(Even when the prophet Muhammad lived in the world, he was taken to visit the universe of the Hereafter/ Floor of Lord)
56:7 You will be in three groupings.
56:8 So those on the right; who will be from those on the right?
56:9 Those on the left; who will be from those on the left?
56:10 And those foremost, who will be from those foremost?
(8th verse about peple who after the apocalyptic blessing will enter the paradise, 9th verse about who will enter hell, and the 10th verse talking about the already pioneering group living in Paradise. Thus, the three classes mentioned in verse 7 are completed)
19:93 When all there is in the heavens and the earth will but come to the Gracious as servants.
19:56 Recall in the book Enoch; he was truthful, a prophet.
19:57 We raised him to a high place.
(Enoch is living in Paradise now)
"Contradiction; Jesus said, "do not defend yourselves" (Matthew 5:39, Matthew 26:52) Vs Jesus said, "defend yourselves" (Luke 22:36)
Excuse; Some Biblical words are being taken literally instead of symbolically or metaphorically. "turn the other cheek." Figuratively meant, "be moral".
Rebuttal: Actually, turn the other cheek was a literal commandment because Jesus himself demonstrated this law;
"When he had said this, one of the officers standing by struck Jesus with his hand, saying, "Is that how you answer the high priest?" Jesus answered him, "If I have spoken wrongly, bear witness to the wrong; but if I have spoken rightly, why do you strike me?" (John 18:22-23)
Rather than attacking the officer or causing the officer to evaporate (since Christians claim Jesus is God), instead Jesus reasons with the guard.
This means that if your enemy strikes or attacks you, you are to allow him or her to attack you without striking back. You are to take the punishment without reacting. If the Christians in history allowed themselves to be attacked without retaliating as Jesus ordered, than there would be no Christians left today.
Correction: The Quran saves the Bible regarding the rule given by Jesus by clarifying that when you are being attacked, it is best to have patience and forgiveness against the attack, But then if the attacks continue, than we are given the permission to retaliate only with the equal amount of force that was used against us:
"And if you take your turn, then retaliate with the like of that with which you were afflicted; But if ye endure patiently, verily it is better for the patient." (Quran 16:126)
Therefore, we are given the permission to repel attacks, to protect ourselves, although God prefers forgiveness."
http://islamicbook.com/free/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/
Quran saying The elites always kept the books from you.
Quran 6:91 They did not value God as He deserves to be valued, for they said, "God has never sent down anything to any human being." Say, "Who then has sent down the book which Moses had come with, a light and guidance for the people? You treat it just as scrolls of paper; you show some of it and conceal much, though you were taught what neither you nor your fathers knew." Say, "God has." Then leave them playing in their folly.
Matthew Mark or Yuhanna always wrote hadith books.
Mattheww or Mark are like Bukhari. They are hadith writers. You(Christians, Jews) have not got holy books.
God's word hasn't changed. Your priests have adopted fake books. They gave you the hadith books as the Bible and deceived you.
"The Quran says that when the night and the day overlap, they make a ball (sphere):
[Quran 39.5] [Allah] Created the heavens and the Earth in truth. He overlaps [Yukawer in Arabic يُكَوِّرُ] the night over the day and overlaps [Yukawer يُكَوِّرُ] the day over the night, and enslaved the sun and the moon. ALL MOVE (Kullon Yajree كل يجري) to a prerecorded destiny. Is He not the Exalted, the Forgiver?"
http://www.miracles-of-quran.com/earth.htm
and;
https://muslimbook.com/free-islamic-books/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/#post-362-_Toc96948534
So, the Quran corrects the false Bible again.
The Quran Corrects the False Bible
"Contradiction; God in the Bible orders his followers in a battle to kill every living thing including, women, children, and animals;
"Thus says the Lord of hosts, 'I will punish what Am'alek did to Israel in opposing them on the way, when they came up out of Egypt. Go and attack the Amalekites and completely destroy everything they have. Don't leave a thing; kill all the men, women, children, and babies; the cattle, sheep, camels, and donkeys." (1 Samuel 15:2–3)
Excuse; None available.
Correction: God orders Muslims in the Quran to have patience against those who attack you, and if the attacks persist, we are only to retaliate with the same amount we were attacked with and to never go beyond the amount of attack we received:
"And if you take your turn, then retaliate with the like of that with which you were afflicted; But if ye endure patiently, verily it is better for the patient." (Quran 16:126)"
https://muslimbook.com/free-islamic-books/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/
The Quran Corrects the False Bible
"Contradiction; The Bible claims that if someone turns away from God, they are lost forever and to be killed;
"For how can those who abandon their faith be brought back to repent again? They were once in God's light; they tasted heaven's gift and received their share of the Holy Spirit; they knew from experience that God's word is good, and they had felt the powers of the coming age. And then they abandoned their faith! It is impossible to bring them back to repent again, because they are again crucifying the Son of God and exposing him to public shame." (Hebrews 6:4-6)
And
"But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die." (Ezekiel 18:24)
Excuse; Later Scripture overrules previous scriptures
Rebuttal: Here the Biblicists ignore that the superseding scripture in the Bible also confirms apostates are to be put to death;
"If we decide to go on sinning after we have learned the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins. There is nothing but fear in waiting for the judgment and the terrible fire that will destroy all those who live against God. Anyone who refused to obey the law of Moses was found guilty from the proof given by two or three witnesses. He was put to death without mercy. So what do you think should be done to those who do not respect the Son of God, who look at the blood of the agreement that made them holy as no different from others' blood, who insult the Spirit of God's grace? Surely they should have a much worse punishment." (Hebrews 10:26-29)
Correction: Our Merciful Lord shows benevolence towards those who stray in error, giving the apostate more than one chance to repent. The Quran does not discard human lives ruthlessly as the Bible appears to:
"Those who believe, then reject faith, then believe (again) and (again) reject faith, and go on increasing in unbelief,- Allah will not forgive them nor guide them nor guide them on the way." (Quran 4:137)
Furthermore, in the Holy Quran, the death given to apostates is a spiritual one, where the rejecters of faith lose guidance:
"That is because they believed, then they rejected Faith: So a seal was set on their hearts: therefore they understand not." (Quran 63:3)
Unlike the Bible, the Quran teaches not to physically harm those who do not physically harm us:
"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things." (Quran 2:256)"
https://muslimbook.com/free-islamic-books/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/
The Quran Corrects the False Bible
"Contradiction; The Bible teaches that missionaries from religions other than yours, are to be put to death;
"But put to death any interpreters of dreams or prophets that tell you to rebel against the Lord, who rescued you from Egypt, where you were slaves. Such people are evil and are trying to lead you away from the life that the Lord has commanded you to live. They must be put to death, in order to rid yourselves of this evil." (Deuteronomy 13:5)
Excuse; None available.
Correction: God revealed to us in the Holy Quran to tolerate and even protect people of other faiths. If missionaries try to convert us to another religion, we are to politely respond;
"I worship not that which ye worship, Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve: Nor am I going to serve that which you serve, Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve: You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion." (Quran 109:2-6)"
https://muslimbook.com/free-islamic-books/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/
The Quran Corrects the False Bible
"Contradiction; Animals were created before man was created. (Genesis 1:24-27) Vs Man was created before animals were created. (Genesis 2:7, 19)
Excuse; (Genesis 2) is only descriptive and the two chapters do not exactly say when the animals were created.
Rebuttal: What apologists fail to comprehend is that in (Genesis 1), after God made the animals, the decision to make man was consummated. While in (Genesis 2), after man was made, God said, "It is not good that the man should be alone," then the decision to make animals was executed.
Correction: Logically, animals were created before humans in order for humans to have food. The Holy Quran lists this sequence here:
"Hast thou not seen that unto Allah payeth adoration whosoever is in the heavens and whosoever is in the earth, and the sun, and the moon, and the stars, and the hills, and the trees, and the beasts, and many of mankind, while there are many unto whom the doom is justly due. He whom Allah scorneth, there is none to give him honor. Lo! Allah doeth what He will." (Quran 22:18)"
https://muslimbook.com/free-islamic-books/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/
https://www.answering-christianity.com/200_ways_quran_corrects_bible.pdf
The Bible, a hadith book, says;
Job 26:11
"The pillars of the heavens will be shaken,
They are dumbfounded when He rebukes them."
But as is well known, space was built and expanded without pillars or columns.
Here again, the Holy Qur'an corrects the false Bible in the market by writing the truth;
Holy Quran:
31:10 He created the heavens without pillars or supports; you see them. And He placed on the earth weights and supports so that it would not shake you and make you stagger, and He spread therein all kinds of animals. And We sent down water from the sky, and there We caused every kind of generous and fruitful pair to flourish.
Peace be upon you.
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on June 22, 2022, 06:12:23 PM
The Bible, a hadith book, says;
Job 26:11
"The pillars of the heavens will be shaken,
They are dumbfounded when He rebukes them."
But as is well known, space was built and expanded without pillars or columns.
Here again, the Holy Qur'an corrects the false Bible in the market by writing the truth;
Holy Quran:
31:10 He created the heavens without pillars or supports; you see them. And He placed on the earth weights and supports so that it would not shake you and make you stagger, and He spread therein all kinds of animals. And We sent down water from the sky, and there We caused every kind of generous and fruitful pair to flourish.
Peace be upon you.
In my perception, I don't quite agree with you...
What meant by pilar in Job 26:11 should be understood with real word.. It could be even foundation... Even Job or Psalm states pillars of earth tremble... So every sstrong structure has foundation...
But as per Quran verse and word usage it's clear that God built Heavens without Pilars. The word can be taken as pilars not as foundation. So it is obvious Heaven is pillar less. But point to note is Earth is also Pilar less according to well-known science.. But God never united earth and heavens together in any verse.. They are two separate things.. But if we consider heaven (universe) earth is part of it and pillar less..
So.. Don't find fault in Job verse... Find out what the earth and heavens are in reality...
Bring me a single word in Quran which gives the meaning of universe in which earth is included..
So.. For me Job verse is meant as Foundation of heavens trembled.. Not literally Pilars..
Correct me if I am mistaken, coz I can remember there is a verse in Quran it says something similar to it.. Earth and heavens trembled by their saying.. So if God used Heavens only it is enough to take as universe... But God used earth also... Do they separately tremble.. As well God says both earth and heavens shed tears.. Why God separate earth from heavens.. God could have simply said universe (heavens) didn't shed tears.. Ponder if you can
Hi Jkhan;
Heavens = Universes
https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611562.0
And the world is a rotating sphere, says the Qur'an.
You do not accept these truths that the Qur'an clearly states, but you believe in the false Bible's flat earth and one universe discourse.
So it's normal for you to disagree with what I'm saying here. Because you agree with the false Bible, not the Koran.
Peace
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on June 23, 2022, 05:43:13 AM
Hi Jkhan;
Heavens = Universes
https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611562.0
And the world is a rotating sphere, says the Qur'an.
You do not accept these truths that the Qur'an clearly states, but you believe in the false Bible's flat earth and one universe discourse.
So it's normal for you to disagree with what I'm saying here. Because you agree with the false Bible, not the Koran.
Peace
Salam...
Hi too...
Heavens (Samawathii plural form of sama) = Universe (earth sun moon's planets stars etc etc)
Are you out of your mind to claim so. ..
Haven't you ever come accross in Quran says samawathi Wal Ard together... So literally universe and Earth... Come have some sense in what you speak.. I hate nonsensical logic.. Speak of anything it doesn't matter but with some logic...
Did I tell that I follow bible in top of that as per you false Bible... I would have if I found it comprehensive and flawless... But it is not... But the verse you brought here from Job has something to ponder. For me it may mean foundation. Don't forget bible is a mixed up book it has some truth while it has some flaws since human infusion... But the verse in discussion here I think right..
May I know what Quran clearly states that earth is spinning... Don't drag me. It is my favorite topic.. Lol
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on June 23, 2022, 05:43:13 AM
Hi Jkhan;
Heavens = Universes
https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611562.0
And the world is a rotating sphere, says the Qur'an.
You do not accept these truths that the Qur'an clearly states, but you believe in the false Bible's flat earth and one universe discourse.
So it's normal for you to disagree with what I'm saying here. Because you agree with the false Bible, not the Koran.
Peace
All polytheistic religions, from Hinduism to New Age religion, worship many gods as a reflection or manifestation of the one God. Christianity has the same pagan doctrine. In fact, it is in itself a pantheistic philosophy.
As it is stated in the Holy Qur'an, the elite hid the Torah and the Gospel, they only shared some of its pages with humanity. So we don't have the Injeel or the Torah now.
And unfortunately, the people had to adopt the hadith books like Barnabas, Enoch, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, which were written by human beings, that is to say fake books, as Gospels. There are many more fake Gospels. But the pagan religious leaders adopted four of them and deceived people with these books. Whatever Bukhari or Tırmizi books are, these are the same. They are hadith books. Bible is not Torah or Injeel.
But some Christians, in spite of these pagan false books, realized that the belief in the trinity was a heresy and fought against this heresy. Because with the revelation inherent in their genes, man is inclined towards the truth. As long as he keeps his heart pure.(unitarians)
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Almost all polytheistic religions have the same trap, that the demons are making them adopt the lie that there are multiple reflections of one God.
Hindus also think that they believe in one God, pantheists also, Christians also. They have been made to believe that the one God is manifested in different ways. From Indian religions to Far Eastern religions, they all have the same fallacy. People who worship idols actually believe in one God. All idols are manifestations or parts of the original God in paganism. Hindus or other idol worshippers say the same thing. So they have exactly the same belief as the lie they are being fed.
Satan cannot make people polytheists directly, for the most part. Because there is true knowledge/revelation in the genes of human beings and people innately know that there is only one God. That's why Satan insidiously makes people polytheistic. He says that the one God manifests in different ways. And he deceives the pagans mostly in this way. Hindus, Native Americans, Asian pagans, new age believers, Christians think they believe in one God, but in reality they are polytheists. They have associated partners with Allah, so you are in shirk.
Hindus "333 in 1"
Christians "3 in 1".
Pantheists "everything in 1"
New Agers "we are in 1"
This is paganism.
Manifestations of Spiritualism in Christianity:
https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=3844.0
https://www.miracles-of-quran.com/earth.html
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on March 06, 2020, 06:41:07 AM
51:22 In the heaven is your provision, and what you are promised. (Paradise and hell are both ready and outside the world, in the sky)
The prophets living in Paradise will be summoned to the court as witnesses on the Day of Judgment
77:11 And when the messengers are gathered.
heaven is not paradise. Heaven =universe
Heavens = universes
The Qur'an offers a multi-universe model.
But it is not infinite.
Seven universes, for example.
Other universes have planets too.
65.12 Allah is the one who created seven Heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); [Allah's] command descends among them so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything.
Example "Floor of Lord" (Indallah) = afterlife universe
Except for the Hereafter universe, all the other universes will end with big crunch.
21:104 On the day when We roll up the heavens like a scroll of books is rolled up. As We initiated the first creation, so shall We return it. It is a promise of Ours that We will do this.
39:67 They have not given God His true worth; and the whole earth is within His fist on the day of resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Be He glorified; He is much too high above what they set up.
Quran: A man came running from the farthest part of the city, saying: "O my people, follow the messengers. Follow those who do not ask you for any wage, and are guided. Why should I not serve the One who initiated me, and to Him is your ultimate return? Shall I take gods besides Him? If the Gracious intends any harm for me, their intercession cannot help me in the least, nor can they save me. Then I would be clearly astray. I have acknowledged your Lord, so listen to me! It was said, "Enter Paradise." He said "Oh, how I wish my people only knew of what my Lord has forgiven me, and made me of the honored ones."We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the sky; for there was no need to send them down. For all it took was one scream, whereupon they were stilled. (36:20-29)
19:56 And recall in the Book, Enoch; he was a man of truth, a prophet.
19:57 And We raised him to a high place.
3:55 For God said: "O Jesus, I will terminate your life, and raise you to Me, and cleanse you of those who have rejected, and make those who have followed you above those who have rejected until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, all of you,so I will judge between you in what it was that you disputed."
Prophets and very good peoples in Paradise now. They were created in Paradise (floor of Lord/other universe) without waiting for the Hour.
But, Other people will wait for the Resurrection for re-creation.
The Qur'an says that a group of exception people are already living in Paradise.
And it even tells us that some of them are talking about the world's inhabitants. They say "they(World peoples) will come to us later". However, it is difficult to see them for you because the English translations of the Qur'an do not provide complete sentences.
Likewise, the verses of the Lord's Floor are also mentioned, but you cannot see it again in English translations. Because, unfortunately, those under the influence of traditional interpretation make translations in their own understanding.
Yes, according to the Qur'an there are already people living in Paradise.
And that's where Christians believe that Jesus is in paradise.
In the false Gospels, the event was described incorrectly, so you could not see the painting until today.
Jesus and all other messengers/ prophets live in paradise now.
3:169 Do not count that those who are killed in the sake of God are dead. No, they are alive at their Lord receiving provisions.
3:170 Happy with what God has granted them from His grace, and they rejoice in those who have yet to follow after them. There is no fear upon them nor do they grieve.
5:17 Ingrates indeed are those who have said, "God is the Messiah the son of Mary." Say, "Who has any power against God if He had wanted to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, and his mother, and all who are on earth!" To God is the sovereignty of heavens and earth and all that is in-between; He creates what He pleases. God is capable of all things. (Jesus and his mother living in other universe, Like other prophets...)
84:8 He will then receive an easy reckoning.
84:9 He will return to his family in joy! (The person who is called from Paradise to the day of judgment will return to Paradise again with joy)
53:13 Indeed, he saw him in another descent.
53:14 At the ultimate point.
53:15 Next to the eternal Paradise.
(Even when the prophet Muhammad lived in the world, he was taken to visit the universe of the Hereafter/ Floor of Lord)
56:7 You will be in three groupings.
56:8 So those on the right; who will be from those on the right?
56:9 Those on the left; who will be from those on the left?
56:10 And those foremost, who will be from those foremost?
(8th verse about peple who after the apocalyptic blessing will enter the paradise, 9th verse about who will enter hell, and the 10th verse talking about the already pioneering group living in Paradise. Thus, the three classes mentioned in verse 7 are completed)
19:93 When all there is in the heavens and the earth will but come to the Gracious as servants.
19:56 Recall in the book Enoch; he was truthful, a prophet.
19:57 We raised him to a high place.
(Enoch is living in Paradise now)
Other universes have planets too.
Quran 65.12 "Allah is the one who created seven Heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); [Allah's] command descends among them so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything."
And they(other universes) have got creatures:
Quran 42:29"And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and of whatever living creatures (daabbah) He has spread forth in both. And He has the power to gather them together whenever he pleases"
Example "Floor of Lord" (Indallah) = afterlife universe
Except for the Hereafter universe, all the other universes will end with big crunch.
Quran 21:104 On the day when We roll up the heavens like a scroll of books is rolled up. As We initiated the first creation, so shall We return it. It is a promise of Ours that We will do this.
Quran 39:67 They have not given God His true worth; and the whole earth is within His fist on the day of resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Be He glorified; He is much too high above what they set up
As is known, the Qur'an describes how everything was created in pairs, that is, in more than one number:
Yasin
36: Praise be to the One who has created all pairs from what the earth sprouts out and from themselves, and from what they do not know.
Zariyat
49: And We created everything in pairs, so that you may take counsel.
In this context; Since the universe is also a created servant, it should not be unique and only one. All created beings are paired. After the Apocalypse, only the "Floor of the Lord", that is, the Universes of the Hereafter, will remain, but he will still be living with those in more than one universe (the verses emphasize that the "heavens of the hereafter" and the "earths" will exist forever).
In short; These verses also offer another, albeit indirect, explanation of the creation of more than one universe.
Only God is unique. It is the case that the servants created by Allah have spouses (same or opposite), that is, more than one of them.
-Think not of those who are slain in Allah.s way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the floor of their Lord;
- Allah is pleased with the blessing he has bestowed upon them, and about the Mujahideen who have not joined them as martyrs behind them: "They have no fear, and they will not hear sadness." are found. (Surat al-Fitr 169-170)
According to these verses;
1- While other dead people are really dead (waiting for the resurrection), the martyrs are alive differently from them.
2- They live in blessings on the floor of the Lord (in the Hereafter)
3. When they speak in heaven, they give good news about the people who are still in the world and / or who have not yet been resurrected after they have been killed (they also say words that they will participate in the Jenny)
However, the point to be noted here is that the people who are now in heaven (in the Rabbinic Floor) are as physical as us, they are materially alive. Already according to the Qur'an, there is no such thing as souls, spiritual life. Everlasting life is also the body. All creatures, including angels and goblins, are already members (for example, if we were created from earth, the jinn were also created from fire). You can also read my article on "Nobody has got ghost according to Quran".
Meryem
56. Also mention in the Book the case of Idris: He was a man of truth (and sincerity), (and) a prophet:
57. We raised him in a high/lofty place.
Al-i İmran 55. Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.
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IS JESUS ALIVE?
Let me briefly answer this frequently asked question again:
Prophet Jesus died, but just like other prophets and martyrs, he was created again in the Paradise (Floor of Lord).
In other words, living in a Paradise now.
In short, not only Jesus, but all the prophets and messengers live in other Universe.
So, the Holy Quran corrects the false Bible again.
Regards.
Emre_1974tr
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on January 01, 2018, 09:02:12 AM
Nobody has got ghost according to Quran
Unlike the traditional Islamic doctrine which is under the influence of sects and hadith fabrications, in the real Islamic doctrine of the Quran people have NO ghosts/ souls/ spirits. People do NOT have a divine component, a soul, a spirit nor a ghost.
Everything created in the universe is material, physical and real, NOT an illusion. (for example the first man Adam was made from clay element and the jinn was made from fire element)
Heaven and Hell are NOT mental delusions. They are ?physical? places created in another universe.
Unfortunately, terms such as soul- spirit (an immortal divine component, a ghost that can exist on its own without the body even after death) have succeed to enter Islam due to wrong translations -which are made under the influence of hadith fabrications- and Islamic mysticism (sufism). But in the original text of the Quran (Arabic version), they are NOT available.
In the Quran, people have ?nafs?, which is the equivalent of ?life energy?, ?ego?, ?character?. People are born, they die and they will be ?physically? recreated in the Hereafter:
Does the human being think that We will not gather his bones? Indeed, We were able to make his fingertips (The Resurrection, 75: 3-4)
As also can be seen in the verses, people do NOT have souls/ spirits, they only have ?nefs?, which dies together with the bodily functions. And as again can be understood from the verses ?most? of the people will be recreated in the Judgment Day. We use the word ?most? because there are some exceptions. The Quran gives the examples of very meritorious people, such as martyrs or prophets and on the other edge some deadly sinners, such as the Pharaoh who committed outrage to his people.
These exceptional people have already started to reap what they have sown. They are either rewarded in Heaven (physically) or punished in Hell (physically).
Examples to the righteous who go to Heaven immediately after their death:
? Do not count that those who are killed in the sake of God are dead. No, they are alive at their Lord receiving provisions. Happy with what God has granted them from His favor, and they rejoice for those who have yet to follow them. There is no fear over them nor do they grieve. (The Family of Imran, 3: 169-170)
? A man came running from the farthest part of the city, saying: "O my people, follow the messengers. Follow those who do not ask you for any wage, and are guided. Why should I not serve the One who initiated me, and to Him is your ultimate return? Shall I take gods besides Him? If the Gracious intends any harm for me, their intercession cannot help me in the least, nor can they save me. Then I would be clearly astray. I have acknowledged your Lord, so listen to me! It was said, "Enter Paradise." He said "Oh, how I wish my people only knew of what my Lord has forgiven me, and made me of the honored ones."We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the sky; for there was no need to send them down. For all it took was one scream, whereupon they were stilled. (36:20-29)
Example to the disbelievers who committed ?deadly? sins and tyranny:
? So God protected him from the evil of what they schemed, while the people of Pharaoh have incurred the worst retribution. The fire, which they will be exposed to morning and evening, and on the day when the moment is established: "Admit the people of Pharaoh into the most severe of the retribution." (The Believer, 40: 45-46)
And the following verses refer to the common/ordinary people, possibly the majority of the disbelievers:
? The horn will be blown, whereupon they will rise from the graves rushing towards their Lord. They will say, "Woe to us. Who has resurrected us from our resting place? This is what the Gracious had promised. The messengers were truthful!" (Ya sin, 36: 51-52)
In the Quran the word ?Spirit? only refers to the ?Holy Ghost/Spirit? and to the messages It brought. For example:
We gave Moses the book, and after him, We sent the messengers. Later We gave Jesus son of Mary the clear proofs, and We supported Him with the Holy Spirit. Is it that every time a messenger comes to you with what your minds do not desire, you become arrogant? A group of them you deny, and a group of them you kill! (2:87)
Such messengers, We have preferred some to others; some of them talked to God, and He raised some of them in ranks, and We gave Jesus son of Mary the proofs and We supported him with the Holy Spirit. Had God wished, the people after them would not have fought after the proofs had come to them, but they disputed, some of them acknowledged and some of them did not appreciate. Had God wished they would not have fought, but God does whatever He wishes. (2:253)
God said, "O Jesus son of Mary, recall My blessings upon you and your mother that I supported you with the Holy Spirit; you spoke to the people in the cradle and in old age; and I taught you the book and the wisdom, and the Torah, and the Injeel; and you would create from clay the shape of a bird, then blow into it and it becomes a bird by My leave; and you heal the blind and the leper by My leave; and you brought out the dead by My leave. I have restrained the Children of Israel from you, that you came to them with proofs; but those who rejected amongst them said, "This is an obvious magic!" (5:110)
He sends down the angels with the Spirit by His command upon whom He wishes of His servants: "That you shall warn that there is no god but I, so be aware of Me." (16:2)
They ask you concerning the Spirit. Say, "The Spirit is from the command of my Lord, and the knowledge you were given was but very little.? (17:85)
It was sent down with the trusted Spirit. (26:193)
Possessor of the highest ranks, the One with the Throne. He sends the Spirit with His command upon whom He wills from His servants, so that they may warn of the day of Summoning. (40:15)
You will not find any people who acknowledge God and the Last day befriending those who oppose God and His messenger, even if they were their parents, or their children, or their siblings, or their tribe. For these, He decrees trust into their hearts, and supports them with a Spirit from Him, and He admits them into paradises with rivers flowing beneath, wherein they will abide. God is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him. These are the party of God. Most assuredly, the party of God are the winners. (58:22)
The day when the Spirit and the angels stand in line, none will speak unless the Gracious permits him and he speaks what is true. (78:38)
Some dangers of thinking that people have spirits/ souls:
- Having a belief that people have spirits often leads up to the sanctification of the humans. It leads people to associate himself / herself with God.
- It also contributes to building up a strong belief of spiritual evolution. As a result of this false belief, in order to evolve spiritually, people praise suffering and pain. When they encounter a disastrous situation, instead of getting out of it, they welcome it and take it as a reward. However, according to the Quran, the bad things that come to us are either to test us or a result of our sins, our own malignancy.
- Spiritualists regard life as a school where we, as students, learn and mature. These people maintain that suffering / pain is a must for spiritual evolution. Thus, it turns the evil into hidden heroes having a special (key) role in the spiritual evolution process. Those who can read between the lines can easily realize that it glorifies the evil (even Satan). Also spiritualists
tolerate the immoral behaviors of the ones who are not spiritually evolved (!)
- Belief in the spirits opens the door to reincarnation, which means that we will be different creatures (different gender, different personality, different appearance etc.) in our other lives (!) In other words, it means that a person that dies is gone forever, which is actually a very materialistic point of view again if you read between the lines.
- Some spiritualists think that death is something positive as spirit confined to the physical body will be set free and unite with God and become one. This deviant view also praises suicides.
- People, who believe that people have spirits, mostly swap the belief for the Judgment Day with reincarnation and thus, they reject the belief in reward and punishment in the afterlife and eliminate Heaven and Hell, attributing symbolic meanings to both. In addition, they adopt ascetic lifestyles and scorn the beauties, provisions God gives us (in this world and in the other world).
- People who believe in the spirits are more likely to be cheated by the jinns.
Regards
Emre_1974tr (Emre Karak?se)
1- Spirit is revelation,
2- holy spirit (the angel messenger conveying the message, revelation angel)
3- and revelation book (Quran).
Spirit= revelation.
Let's give examples.
1- Revelation
Quran [15:29] "So when I perfect him, and blow of My Spirit in him, you shall fall prostrate to him."
2- Revelation Angel (Cebrail).
Quran 19:17. Thus, she kept herself in seclusion from people. Then We sent to her Our spirit, and it appeared before her in the form of a perfect man.
3- Revelation Book/Quran
Quran 42:52 And thus We have revealed to you an inspiration of Our command. You did not know what is the Book or [what is] faith, but We have made it a light by which We guide whom We will of Our servants. And indeed, [O Muhammad], you guide to a straight path -
spirit = revelation.
And basic verses in our body like Adam:
Quran 30:30So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created [all] people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.
We are obliged to direct the truth through the verses inside.
Jinns are not fallen angels.
Jinns are tested just like human beings and they have good and bad ones. The bad ones will go to hell.
By the way, the famous jinn Iblis will also burn in hell. This information is given very clearly in the verses.
Satan is the adjective name given to the wicked, deviant ones of jinn and humans.
Iblis is the special name of that famous jinn devil(The Jinn who made Adam and his wife eat the forbidden fruit). That is a personal name.
Surah Nas briefly explains the subject:
Holy Quran
114:1 Say: "I seek refuge with the Lord of the people,"
114:2 "The King of the people,"
114:3 "The god of the people,"
114:4 "From the evil of the sneaking whisperer,"
114:5 "Who whispers into the chests of the people."
114:6 "From the Jinn and the people."
Almost all pagans are pantheists.
Pagans who worship idols or humans are aware that the things they worship are not gods. But in their perverted pantheistic philosophy, they see what they worship as a reflection, a manifestation, a part of God. Thus, they fall into the trap of the devil. They think they are monotheists, but they are actually polytheists.
The fact that the pharaoh sees himself as a Lord is also the result of this pantheist philosophy. He thought of himself as the reflection, that is, the manifestation of God. Like all pantheists, he worshiped himself and the universe.
The Holy Qur'an clearly explains these facts. At the moment, the only real holy book we have is the Qur'an. On the other hand, the elites hiding the books like the Torah and gave the Fake Torah and false Bibles to the people(hadith books).
Only Paradise is forever.
The verses emphasize that those in paradise, unlike those in hell, will not taste death except the first death. Those in paradise will live forever, while those in hell may one day be destroyed along with hell itself.
Saffat 55. When he looks, he finds him in the middle of Hell. 56. He says, "By Allah, you almost destroyed me too." 57. "Were it not for the Blessing of my Lord, I would have been with you now." 58-59. But then, [O my friends in paradise,] is it [really] so that we are not to die.
[again,] beyond our previous death, and that we shall never [again] be made to suffer?
They will not taste death there except the first death. Allah has protected them from the torment of Hell.(Surat al-Duhan, verse 56)
Yes, those in paradise will live forever, while those in hell will one day be destroyed with hell.
And according to these verses I have given, those in paradise will taste death only once in their lives. That is, their death on earth. But those in hell will taste a second death. Because they died once on earth and now they will die once in hell.
Those in paradise will have experienced a total of one death, while those in hell will have experienced a total of two deaths.
Another piece of information these verses give us is that there is no such thing as reincarnation. Because, as God says, there is only one taste of death on earth.
and;
Holy Quran
40:40 "Whosoever does an evil deed, he will not be requited except for its equivalent, and whosoever does good, whether male or female and is an acknowledger, so those will be admitted to Paradise, where they will receive provision without limit."
6:160 Whoever comes with a good deed, he will receive ten times its worth, and whoever comes with a sin, he will only be recompensed its like; they will not be wronged.
1- Hell will end one day.
2- There is no reincarnation.
3- The reward is always greater and eternal than the punishment.
4- Those in paradise will have tasted only one death (their death on earth). But those in hell will taste a second death (they will die once more in hell in addition to their death on earth).
Holy Quran 6:146 For those who are Jewish, We forbade all that have claws; and from the cattle and the sheep We forbade their fat except what is attached to the back, or entrails, or mixed with bone. That is a punishment for their rebellion, and We are truthful.
Prohibitions such as clawed animals and the Sabbath were temporary punishments and tests for a tribe.
Jesus/Yusha, the nephew of the Prophets Moses and Aaron, and the Injeel, which came shortly after the Torah, already announced the end of these prohibitions.
Holy Quran 3:50 "Authenticating what is present with me of the Torah, and to make lawful some of what was forbidden to you; and I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so be aware of God and obey me."
There is no limit to the amount of wealth in Islam, as long as it is acquired through lawful means. If there were a limit, there would be a limit of wealth equivalent to a certain weight/amount of gold or diamonds, but there is absolutely no such restriction in the verses.
Holy Quran 3:59 The example of Jesus with God is similar to that of Adam; He created him from dust, then He said to him "Be" and he was.
Adam and his wife, as well as the other humans first created in paradise, were created directly, just like Jesus. They have no father and mother.
And the verses explains that the creation in the hereafter is also a creation without ancestors, and that people will be created directly.
Also, as I have shown in my article, some special people, such as martyrs and prophets, have already been created in Paradise/the Floor of God and have already started their eternal life:
https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611687.0
So Jesus and the other prophets are now living in the Hereafter Universe in the flesh.
In short, the situation of Adam and his wife, the situation of the other people created in paradise, and the situation of all the people created in the Hereafter Universe is like the situation of Jesus. They were created directly without ancestors and continue to be created. In other words, sexuality is not mediated in their creation.
And this ancestorless creation gives them no divinity. God creates as he wills. The creation of Jesus is just like any other example of creation without ancestors, there is no divinity in it.
Thus the Holy Qur'an once again corrects the false Bible on the market.
https://jewsforallah.org/
There is no angel named Azrael in the Qur'an. The angels of death are mentioned in general and they are innumerable. I mean, there could be quadrillions of them. And none of these angels in charge of taking life are named in the verses. Just like the scribe angels.
In the Quran, an event is not described in a single surah. Different details of the same event are given in many suras. For example, the story of Noah is told very little in Surah Noah. But if you look at all the suras, that is, if you read the whole book, you can see all the details about the prophet Noah and Noah's flood. In the same way, all the details of all other events are in the whole Qur'an. Each surah gives some of the details, but if you read the whole book you will see all the details. Not only the events, but for example, how to Salaat, how to perform ablution, are explained in different surahs in different parts. You have to read the whole book to learn how to worship.
The false gospels/Bible are man-written books, so they are written in the style of history books. They distract you from the truth by giving you false information.
The only true holy book we have at the moment is the Qur'an.
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The entire Qur'an is a guide to goodness and virtue. Even the verses that tell us to fight evil are positive moral guidance. But if you want examples of verses, here are a few.
Holy Quran
16:90 God orders justice and goodness and that you shall help your relatives, and He prohibits immorality and vice and transgression. He warns you that you may remember.
2:44 Do you exhort the people to do good, but forget yourselves, while you are reciting the Book? Do you not comprehend?
2:83 And We took the covenant of the Children of Israel: "You shall not serve except God, and do good to your parents, and regard the relatives, and the orphans, and the needy, and say kind things to the people, and hold the contact prayer, and contribute towards purification." But then you turned away, except for a few of you; you were objecting.
2:148 And to each is a direction that he will take, so you shall race towards good deeds. Wherever you may be, God will bring you all together. God is capable of all things.
2:177 Piety is not to turn your faces towards the east and the west, but pious is one who believes in God and the Last Day, and the angels, and the Book, and the prophets, and who gives money out of love to the relatives, and the orphans, and the needy, and the wayfarer, and those who ask, and to free the slaves; and who upholds the contact prayer, and who contributes towards purification; and those who keep their pledges when they make a pledge, and those who are patient in the face of adversity and hardship and when in despair. These are the ones who have been truthful, and these are the righteous.
2:262 Those who spend their money in the cause of God, then they do not follow what they have spent with either insult or harm; they will have their recompense with their Lord, there is no fear over them nor will they grieve.
2:272 You are not responsible for their guidance, but it is God who will guide whoever He wishes. And whatever you spend out of goodness is for your own souls. And anything you spend should be in seeking the face of God. And whatever you spend out of goodness will be returned to you, and you will not be wronged.
3:134 The ones who spend in prosperity and hardship, and who repress anger, and who pardon the people; God loves the good doers.
11:115 And be patient, for God does not waste the reward of the good doers.
13:22 Andthose who are patient seeking the face of their Lord; and they hold the contact prayer, and they spend from what We have bestowed upon them secretly and openly, and they counter evil with good; these will have an excellent abode.
16:90 God orders justice and goodness and that you shall help your relatives, and He prohibits immorality and vice and transgression. He warns you that you may remember.
16:128 God is with those who are aware and are good doers.
23:61 These are the ones who race in doing good, and they are the first to it.
27:89 Whoever comes with a good deed will receive better than it, and from the terror of that Day they will be safe.
28:54 To these We grant twice the reward for that they have been patient. And they counter evil with good, and from Our provisions to them, they give.
28:77 "And seek with the provisions bestowed upon you by God the abode of the Hereafter, and do not forget your share in this world, and do good as God has done good to you. And do not seek corruption in the land. God does not love the corrupters."
28:84 Whoever brings forth a good deed, he will receive a better reward than it. And whoever brings forth a sin then the retribution for their sins will be to the extent of their deeds.
46:15 And We enjoined man to do good to his parents. His mother bore him with hardship, gave birth to him in hardship, and his bearing and weaning lasts thirty months. So that, when he has reached his independence, and he has reached forty years, he says: "My Lord, direct me to appreciate the blessings You have bestowed upon me and upon my parents, and to do good work that pleases You. And let my progeny be righteous. I have repented to You; I am of those who have submitted."
55:60 Is there any reward for goodness except goodness?
99:7 So whoever does the weight of an atom of good will see it.
4:35 And if you fear a permanent rift between them, then send a judge from his family and a judge from her family. If they want to reconcile, then God will bring them together. God is Knowledgeable, Expert.
8:61 And if they seek peace, then you also seek it, and put your trust in God. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable.
25:63 Andthe servants of the Almighty who walk on the earth in humility and if the ignorant speak to them, they say: "Peace."
2:25 And give good news to those who believe and do good works that they will have estates with rivers flowing beneath them. Every time they receive a provision of its fruit, they say: "This is what we have been provisioned before," and they are given its likeness. And there they will have pure mates, and in it they will abide.
2:82 And those who believe and do good works, they are the people of the Paradise, in it they will abide.
90:17 Then he has become one of those who have believed, and exhort one another to patience, and exhort one another to kindness.
4:58 God orders you to deliver anything you have been entrusted with to its owners. And if you judge between the people, then you shall judge with justice. It is always the best that God prescribes for you. God is Hearer, Seer.
4:135 O you who believe, stand with justice as witnesses to God, even if against yourselves, or the parents or the relatives. Even if he be rich or poor, God is more worthy of them, so do not follow desire into being unjust. And if you twist or turn away, then God is Expert over what you do.
11:85 "And my people, give full in the measure and the weight equitably, and do not hold back from the people what is theirs, and do not roam the land corrupting."
38:26 O David, We have made you a successor on the earth. Therefore, you shall judge among the people with the truth, and do not follow desire, lest it diverts you from the path of God. Indeed, those who stray off the path of God will have a severe retribution for forgetting the Day of Reckoning.
49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.
55:9 And observe the weight with equity, and do not fall short in the balance.
60:8 God does not prohibit you from those who have not fought you because of your system, nor drove you out of your homes, that you deal kindly and equitably with them. For God loves the equitable.
Everyone believes in Allah and the verses and strictly abides by what they say:
There would be no such thing as murder on earth.
There's no such a thing as theft.
Fraud would also be history.
No lie, slander, and no say bad words.
Wars would disappear.
All forms of violence on earth would disappear.
Interest-usury, etc. There would be no gain by harming others.
There would be freedom of economic enterprise and the right of property.
People to be so respectful to each other that they not pass without greeting each other.
All the countries of the world would join hands and compete only to create a better world for humanity.
The world would be like a single country, and the freedom of movement and settlement would be at the highest level throughout the world.
Since there would be no adultery, every child was born and raised in a family environment.
Private companies etc. the powers thought of the interests and pleasure of not only their own, but all people, and they produced beauties in this direction.
Even the poorest person in the world could spend weeks in 5-star hotels.
It would advance in science, technology, art and democracy more than we can even imagine now.
All people lived and helped each other in line with the "real interests" of both themselves and the whole world.
Nature was preserved.
Diseases, injuries and even aging would be largely prevented.
Goodness, peace, happiness and all material-spiritual riches-comfort would cover every place.
This world would be like Paradisely, and in the hereafter, you one would be one of the winners.
Emre Karakose (Emre_1974tr)
(My Turkish writing translated with machine)
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on November 24, 2023, 10:21:57 PM
In the Quran, an event is not described in a single surah. Different details of the same event are given in many suras. For example, the story of Noah is told very little in Surah Noah. But if you look at all the suras, that is, if you read the whole book, you can see all the details about the prophet Noah and Noah's flood. In the same way, all the details of all other events are in the whole Qur'an. Each surah gives some of the details, but if you read the whole book you will see all the details. Not only the events, but for example, how to Salaat, how to perform ablution, are explained in different surahs in different parts. You have to read the whole book to learn how to worship.
The false gospels/Bible are man-written books, so they are written in the style of history books. They distract you from the truth by giving you false information.
The only true holy book we have at the moment is the Qur'an.
In this way;
1- You read the whole Book and master the subjects and information described in all verses. You will always evaluate the Book in its entirety.
2- If you read a few pages of the Qur'an every day, you will benefit from its healing therapy as if you had read the whole book. Because in the 2 pages you read, you will be informed about many subjects just like the whole book, and you will go on a dizzying journey from the facts about life to philosophy, from black holes in space to science and technology, to worship.
Incidentally, the Holy Quran again corrects the errors in the false Bible by saying that the moon, sun and earth move in different orbits.
Holy Quran
36:40 The sun is not required to overtake the moon, nor will the night precede the day; each of them is swimming in its own orbit.
6:96 [He is] the One who causes the dawn to break; and He has made the night to be [a source of] stillness, and the sun and the moon to run their appointed courses [all] this is laid down by the will of the Almighty, the All-Knowing.
14:33 and has made the sun and the moon, both of them constant upon their courses, subservient [to His laws, so that they be of use] to you; and has made the night and the day subservient [to His laws, so that they be of use] to you.
36:38 The sun runs to a specific destination, such is the design of the Noble, the Knowledgeable.
21:33 He is the One who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each swimming in an orbit.
As can be seen, there is no rajm (stoning), headscarf, communism, black stone, aggression/oppression, circumcision in the Qur'an, i.e. in Islam.
And there are no practices such as holy people, poverty and asceticism in the Qur'an. But these are again in the false Bible.
Islam forbids them. Holy Quran forbids these pagan beliefs and practices in the false Bible. In the same way, the holy Qur'an forbids slavery, whereas the false Bible allows slavery.
Holy Quran
3:67 Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Nazarene, but he was a monotheist who submitted; he was not of the polytheists.
2:132 This very legacy Abraham left to his children, and so did Jacob, saying, "O My children! Indeed, God has chosen for you the Way of Life. Therefore, let not death overtake you except that you are Muslimoon" (Muslims = Submitters to God alone, guardians of peace. 2:236, 22:78).
3:80 Nor does He order you that you take the angels and the prophets as patrons. Would He order you to rejection after you have submitted?
The Qur'an already states that they hid their true books:
Surah Al-An'am 91: They could not recognise Allah in a manner worthy of His glory. For they said, "Allah has not revealed anything to man". Say: "Who sent down the Book which Moses brought to mankind as a light and a guide? And you bring forth that Book in scrolls, and you keep many of them hidden. You have been taught what neither you nor your fathers knew." Say, "Allah", then let them play in the mire in which they are mired.
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3:187 God took the covenant of those who were given the book: "You will proclaim to the people and not conceal it." However, they threw it behind their backs and purchased with it a cheap price. Miserable indeed is what they have purchased.
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Judaism and Christianity are actually sects of Islam.
There is only one God and there is only one divine religion: Islam.
But when people tried to change and corrupt the religion, they changed its name. They invented names like Hinduism, Judaism or Christianity.
In reality, all prophets and messengers were Muslims and all of them preached the religion of Islam.
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on January 12, 2024, 08:55:28 PMAs can be seen, there is no rajm (stoning), headscarf, communism, black stone, aggression/oppression, circumcision in the Qur'an, i.e. in Islam.
And there are no practices such as holy people, poverty and asceticism in the Qur'an. But these are again in the false Bible.
Islam forbids them. Holy Quran forbids these pagan beliefs and practices in the false Bible. In the same way, the holy Qur'an forbids slavery, whereas the false Bible allows slavery.
In short, it is interesting to note that today's Christians and Jews live like Muslims according to the Quran, while today's Muslims live like Christians. It is the Christians and Jews who are supposed to follow the false biblical practices such as not eating seafood, stoning, circumcision, poverty, headscarves, etc. In the Holy Qur'an, these things never exist.