New knowledge vs sufi concepts.

[mujahingle]

god is everything = pantheism
god is the energy that does everything = monotheism

it's the glue of all the universe.
and it's the same for all the beings.

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i think understand what mrdeen means:
too much mysticism can make you idiot.
i agree: tawhid is like a heaven but it became an hell if you become too abstract.
islam it's a system to manage the reality, not the fantasy.

[FAR]

He deserves it.

[liquiddharma]

  

[Abrahamic_Unity]

I have worked this out now. Please read about alef-tav -> http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598160.msg197965#msg197965

[gazzali]

Peace,

Not sure what you mean, but God is not everything nor everywhere (though He sees and knows everything).

God resides outside our universe and on J-day He will enter our universe along with the angels.

peace

any reference from quran

[FAR]

peace

any reference from quran

Quran 42:11 and 112:4 for a start. And

[drfazl]

Muslims showed the world what they do, what they did and why they did and why they would do? They are so transparent. But what the filthy Us Uk did in the prisons is debauchery and necrophilic; the moment the world see or think of them Us Uk it is revolting and repulsive. Any depiction in any form will not be sufficient enough. Even the hanging of Saddam Hussein is done in a shameful manner, the executers were using masks; we do not know if it was bush with mask personally hanged him. Do you think now it is possible even to caricature those events humanly? Nazis are no where near you, even to compare! They are far superior indeed.


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[liquiddharma]

What on earth are you talking about drfazl? When a gang of thugs murders an innocent man, do you expect them to leave their business card as well as showing you their face?

[drfazl]

What on earth are you talking about drfazl? When a gang of thugs murders an innocent man, do you expect them to leave their business card as well as showing you their face?

You should if you are righteous. But you cannot for you are aggressive transgressors.

liquiddharma, just imagine US suffocated and gagged Iraqi women, children, old, expectant mothers without medicine and food for nearly one and a half decade slamming economic embargo, under the guise that Iraq conceal WMD, killing millions making them die a torturous death. Are the people of US innocent? And especially when they did choose as the president who has always been worse than the worst in the human history for a second term? Bush even made Hitler look like a puny poor little thing before him.

Will you please give definition of the word 'innocent'?


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[liquiddharma]

Innocent is a person who you want to incriminate with collective guilt. Innocent is a person who has not committed a crime, but who you want to call guilty because of their proximity to people who may or may not have committed crimes.