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Why suffering?

Started by JLM, January 28, 2012, 07:35:00 PM

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JLM

I already understand that most suffering such as starvation and such is due to free will(and people being greedy due to free will). However, one thing I have always struggled with is natural disasters. They're natural and caused by God himself, but why? Why would he want to create these disasters to make us suffer when he's supposed to be compassionate and merciful? Is it a test to see if we'll help out the needy? :confused:

IAMOP

You shall certainly be tried and tested in your possessions and in your personal selves. (3:186)

Do men think that they will be left alone on saying “We believe” and that they will not be tested? (29:2)

Be sure We shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods or lives or the fruits (of your toil); but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere. (2:155)


Why suffering? Because of the Iblis/fruit of the tree affair. We (or at least, Adam) were not originally meant to suffer. But now we are tested for acceptance of the truth. After all, what is 70, 100, 900 years in comparison to eternity? A drop in an ocean! This is only a problem if you are looking at it from a "no life after death" perspective. Then a natural disaster is horrific, wiping out people from the slate of existence. But reality? After the death comes the resurrection. All in the blink of an eye. So does it really matter how you die when God is that which is responsible for existence/non-existence?

Also do you think natural disasters are "random"? I sincerely doubt they are. A lot of them are generally spottable (i.e. living near an active volcano, earthquake fault lines, etc). And we are given example after example in the quran of generations - when they reject the message and it is confirmed that they no longer deserve life, a natural "disaster" always wipes them out. To what extent is it really a disaster anyway - the parting of the sea and the drowning of pharaoh & co was a natural act. A disaster? Not in God's eyes!
As you fall asleep and wake up to a new day
So shall you enter your grave and arise to the last


"Now no person knows what delights of the eye are kept hidden for them - as a reward for their deeds" (32:17)

jkhan

2:214 Or do you think that you will enter Paradise while such [trial] has not yet come to you as came to those who passed on before you? They were touched by poverty and hardship and were shaken until [even their] messenger and those who believed with him said,"When is the help of Allah ?" Unquestionably, the help of Allah is near.

When I read this verse I feel a strange feeling... God definitely testing believers according to this verse or only few?  Is it a criteria or it may happen or not in everyone's life who claim they are believers...

Buy one thing is for sure... God would test until one give up his faith...  That's the simmering point.. If he or she doesn't give faith during the simmering point of test he or she is the winner... God wants test whether he is she give up God in the fear of test... Very hard verse for me but lot hidden in it...
May Allah ease the test of real believers..

Here Basau is translated as poverty but I take as adversity or  miserable situation...
Let us die with guidance

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