'S J D ' with clarity - indeed not Prostration

[jkhan]

Salam / Peace brothers and sisters

With this topic I am gonna clarify my utmost understanding of the word SJD normally stated as Sujud or Sajda / Prostration... But this is not physical prostration in entire Quran. Yes entire Quran...  But it means .. ACKNOWLEDGE  (HONOR, RESPECT,  ADMIT, SUBMIT, INCLINE etc)  The reason I stated above is cuz to honor or respect or admit or  submit or incline one need to willingly acknowledge... Yes one can do unwillingly too but fruitless..

It may take months to complete but one by one I will bring to you in sha Allah not to convince you all but to let you know with logic for your knowledge and info in order that you can reflect...

Quran 2:34

And when We said to the Malaika, "Honor /respect (SJD)  to Adam"; so they honored, except Iblees. He refused (Abaa) and was arrogant and became of the disbelievers."

In this verse there is no tangible reason why God would ever command His elite creature (Malaika)  to PROSTRATE to Adam. Sheer meaningless even if they did so.  Indeed what they were commanded and what they did was honoured / respected thus acknowlwdged Adam whole heartedly.

In sha Allah I will explain every verse... Be patient...

[jkhan]

Now, allow me to compare the verse 2:34 with the below verse to make you reflect on it. .

Quran  41:37

"And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. DO NOT ('S J D) HONOR to the sun or to the moon, but HONOR to Allah , who created them both,  if it should be Him that you Serve (Ibada)."

Well..  In 2:34 Allah says to (SJD)  honor /acknowledge to Adam but in 41:37 Allah says DO NOT HONOR / ACKNOWLEDGE to the Sun or the moon... Why?  The reason is Allah knew what kind of HONOR / RESPECT he commanded to Adam... But Allah never commanded to HONOR to the sun or the moon as  they do with utmost acknowledgement to the level of a deity /god... So SJD /honor is just a word and how it will be applied is depending on our intention...

[jkhan]

Quran 3:43

"O Maryam, be subservient / obedient to your Lord and Honor (SJD) and humble with those who humble"

Here in the above verse Maryam is clearly commanded to be obedient plus Honor and humble like those who humble to the Lord..  When the word Ma'a (with)  is used it not necessary that you to be with others in cluster...  You can refer other occurrences of ma'a in Quran...

No Physical Ritualistic actions were commanded by the verse 3:43 but all mental and verbal and real approaches towards God...

[jkhan]

In below verses Allah is not surprised that the disbelievers not PROSTRATE PHYSICALLY but Allah definitely questions why they not ACKNOWLEDGE the Quran while it is the truth...

Quran 84:20-21
"So, what is with them they do not believe, and when the Qur'an is read to them, they do not ACKNOWLEDGE / HONOR (SJD) ?"

So.. As a believer when Quran is read to them it is imperative that they should acknowledge /honor.... Isn't it.. Believers are not same like disbelievrs? That's why in famous salah verse 4:102 it is stated as under

"And when you are among them and lead for them Salah (Connection ie Quran revelation session) , let a group of them stand with you and let them carry their arms. And when they have acknowledged /honored (SJD) , let them be behind you ....... .. "


It is indeed mandatory to acknowledge when Quran is recited or read ... The main purpose of Salah is to reveal Quran to believers and the Quran revelation session (salah) ends with acknowlwdgement / Honoring by believers and not with denial. ..

[jkhan]

Let's compare the below verse too in relation to Aya/signs or verses...

32:15
Only those BELIEVE in Our Aya / verses / signs who, when they are reminded by them, FALL IN SUBMISSION (acknowledgement/Honor)  and exalt with praise of their Lord, and they are not arrogant."

Imagine.. Doesnt this happen in your life if you are truly believers when you realize or someone timely reminded you with a verse that sooth you and that makes you feel humble and acknowledge... Not you fall down on the floor instead..
Just compare this verse with 84:20-21 ... Indeed Disbelievers don't  acknowledge Aya of Allah but when it is REMINDED to believers they FALL IN SUBMISSION to it...

Quran has used word Kharra as literal FALL as well figurative FALL in phrases... As you are aware in phrases FALL IN is never literal FALL.. for example... Fall in love... Fall in deaf.. Fall in blind.. Fall in submission.. Fall in humility.. Fall in mad... Quran has indeed used FALL IN as figurative...

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Allow me to explain below verse as well...

25:60

"And when it is said to them, "Acknowledge /Honor (SJD) to Ar'Rahman " they say, "And what is Ar'Rahman? Should we Acknowledge (SJD) to that which you order us?" And it increases them in aversion."

Well... No one ORDER them to PROSTRATE to a God called Arrahman but all they ordered them was to ACKNOWLEDGE /HONOR Ar'Rahman cuz they were denying their true Lord and instead devoted to something else.. In reality they could not Acknowledge(SJD) their true Lord.. Deviated from path.. Just asking some people to fall down on Earth in prostration position is sheer meaningless... That's super weird..

[jkhan]

This Iblees is really interesting and he exposed ehat indeed SJD is...

Take a look at the below verse..
15:33
"He (Iblees) said, "Never would I Honor / acknowledge (SJD) to a human (Bashar)  whom You created out of clay from an altered black mud."

The reason for refusal is because Adam was Bashar /Human and in Iblees's mind immediately human was lowly...so why to HONOR /ACKNOWLEDGE a lowly creature while he was an elite creature from long time ago... But if PROSTATION is meant for Lord alone Iblees and all other Malaila would have refused and questioned God "for what purpose we need to prostrate to Adam while you are our Lord" Malika are not dumb creature who never questions God... But reality is SJD was to acknowledge to Adam and before Adam's creations they ie Malika didn't like given the reasons of sheding blood etc.. .. But after creation of Adam they Acknowledged / honored (SJD) Adam as a new creation.. But Iblees couldn't do it and insisted cuz of his arrogance..

[jkhan]

Quran 68:42

"The Day the Calamity will be disclosed and they will be invited to the Honor/acknowledgement(SJD)  but the disbelievers will not be able,"


The reason they can't acknowledge is they have realized it's too late and it is their destiny to get humiliated  ... They acknowledge it or not all same...

[jkhan]

The above verse is indeed not talking about SHIN and exposing it but it is an idiom "When the Calamity is disclosed / fallen "...similarly the below verse is not refering to CHIN AND FALLING... it's an idiom too..

17:107

"Say: 'Believe in it(Quran), or believe not; those who were given the knowledge before it when it is recited to them, take it on to their chins in honor / acknowledgement (SJD).


Pls read 17:108 for more clarity..
And let bring the next verse too for clarity...
17:109

"And they take it on to their chins weeping, and it (Qur'an)increases them in humility."

Here they don't fall physically on  their chins when the Quran is recited.. But when Quran is recited as people who already have the knowledge  of God's revelations in previous scriptures, they Embrace or rather with all difficulties accept in calmness the Quran revelation too.. That's the literal meaning of this idiom "take it on to their chins"...

[Euphoric]

Salam,

Remember the Quran is in Arabic, not English. 

It needs to be understood in its original meaning as the Arabs in the time of revelation.  It only needs to make sense in Arabic to the Arabs, not in English to others.

Translating as "honor" or "acknowledge" are not proper, since there already is an Arabic word for "honor" and "acknowledge", and they're not from SJD. No word for them is derived from SJD.

Therefore, honor - acknowledge are improper.

Basic meaning of Ssujud from SJD means to be low or bent over. This is a physical act. To make it figurative, you need to provide linguistical Arabic support, not English. 

Again, it only needs to be make sense in Arabic.

[jkhan]

Salam,

Remember the Quran is in Arabic, not English. 

It needs to be understood in its original meaning as the Arabs in the time of revelation.  It only needs to make sense in Arabic to the Arabs, not in English to others.

Translating as "honor" or "acknowledge" are not proper, since there already is an Arabic word for "honor" and "acknowledge", and they're not from SJD. No word for them is derived from SJD.

Therefore, honor - acknowledge are improper.

Basic meaning of Ssujud from SJD means to be low or bent over. This is a physical act. To make it figurative, you need to provide linguistical Arabic support, not English. 

Again, it only needs to be make sense in Arabic.

Salam...
I am not here to convince or to compel anyone to take my understanding but presenting my understanding and that too within arabic language but with context and logic