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Can we translate "As-Salat" as "Social Justice"?

Started by TellMeTheTruth, January 16, 2018, 08:11:25 AM

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The Sardar

Quote from: hawk99 on March 22, 2018, 02:23:08 PM
uh-no and uh-no    :handshake:
Salam brother Hawk99 here are the root words of Salat & Zakat for everyone to see:

Sad-Lam-Waw (ص ل و) = prayer, supplication, petition, oration, eulogy, benediction, commendation, blessing, honour, magnify, bring forth, follow closely, walk/follow behind closely, to remain attached.
In a horse race when the second horse follows the first one so closely that its head always overlaps the first horse?s body that horse is called AL-MUSSALLI (i.e. the one who follows closely / remains attached).
Central portion of the back, portion from where the tail of an animal comes out, the rump.

musalla (مصلي) n. m. - 2:125

salat (صلاة) n. f. sing. - 2:3, 2:43, 2:45, 2:83, 2:110, 2:153, 2:177, 2:238, 2:277, 4:43, 4:77, 4:101, 4:102, 4:103, 4:103, 4:103, 4:142, 4:162, 5:6, 5:12, 5:55, 5:58, 5:91, 5:106, 6:72, 6:92, 6:162, 7:170, 8:3, 8:35, 9:5, 9:11, 9:18, 9:54, 9:71, 9:103, 10:87, 11:87, 11:114, 13:22, 14:31, 14:37, 14:40, 17:78, 17:110, 19:31, 19:55, 19:59, 20:14, 20:132, 21:73, 22:35, 22:41, 22:78, 23:2, 24:37, 24:41, 24:56, 24:58, 24:58, 27:3, 29:45, 29:45, 30:31, 31:4, 31:17, 33:33, 35:18, 35:29, 42:38, 58:13, 62:9, 62:10, 70:23, 70:34, 73:20, 98:5, 107:5
salawat (صلوات) nom. gen. n. plu. - 2:157, 2:238, 9:99, 22:40, 23:9

salla (صلي) vb.II m.
perf. act. 75:31, 87:15, 96:10
impf. act. 3:39, plu. neg. 4:102, plu. 4:102, tusalli (تصل) neg. 9:84, yusallee (يصلي) sing. 33:43, yusalloona (يصلون) plu. 33:56
salli (صل) impv. 9:103, salloo (صلوا) plu. 33:56, 108:2
musalleena (مصلين) pcple. act. plu. acc. gen. 70:22, 74:43, 107:4

LL, V4, p: 444, 445  ##  http://ejtaal.net/aa/#q=SLW

Zay-Kaf-Waw (ز ك و) = it increased/augmented, it throve/grew well/flourished/prospered and produced fruit, it was/became pure, purification, goodness/righteousness, lead/enjoy a plentiful/easy/soft/delicate life, put into a good/right state/condition, alms, poor-rate/due

Zakaa (prf. 3rd. p.m. sing): He was clean , pure
Zakkaa (prf. 3rd. p.m. sing. II): He purified.
Yuzakkii (imp. 3rd. p.m. sing. II): He purifies
Tuzakkii (imp. 2nd. p.m. sing. II): Thou purifieth.
Yuzakkuuna (imp. 3rd. p.m. plu. II.): They purify.
Laa Tuzakkuu (prt. neg. n. plu.): Make no pretentions to the purity (of your souls); justify not; Do not praise (yourself to be pure and pious).
Tazakka (prf. 3rd. p.m. sing. V): He purified himself.
Yatazakkaa (imp. 3rd. p.m. sing. V): He purifies himself
Yazzakka (imp. 3rd. p.m. sing. V.): Purify himself.
Zakaat (n.): Purification; purity; poor tax; purifying alms
Zakiyyan (act. pic. m. sing. acc.): Most pure
Zakiyyatan (act. pic. f. sing): Pure; innocent.
Azkaa (elative): The purest

zaka vb. (I)
perf. act. - 24:21
zakat n.f. - 2:43, 2:83, 2:110, 2:177, 2:277, 4:77, 4:162, 5:12, 5:55, 7:156, 9:5, 9:11, 9:18, 9:71, 18:81, 19:13, 19:31, 19:55, 21:73, 22:41, 22:78, 23:4, 24:37, 24:56, 27:3, 30:39, 31:4, 33:33, 41:7, 58:13, 73:20, 98:5
zakiy n.m. (adj. comp. azka) - 2:232, 18:19, 18:74, 19:19, 24:28, 24:30

zakka vb. (II)
perf. act. - 91:9
impf. act. - 2:129, 2:151, 2:174, 3:77, 3:164, 4:49, 4:49, 9:103, 24:21, 53:32, 62:2

tazakka vb, (V)
perf. act. - 20:76, 35:18, 79:18, 87:14
impf. act. - 35:18, 80:3, 80:7, 92:18

Lane's Lexicon, Volume 3, pages: 406, 407  ##  http://ejtaal.net/aa/#q=zkw

hawk99



:) thank you brother The Sardar, I started to paste the exact same
page as you and concluded that salat as 'Social Justice  and  "Az-Zakat" as
'Distribution of Wealth/Resources was incorrect, therefore I concluded 
"uh-no and uh-no" what do you think?



                                                :peace:
The secret to monotheism can be found in the garden

The Sardar

Quote from: hawk99 on March 22, 2018, 06:36:16 PM

:) thank you brother The Sardar, I started to paste the exact same
page as you and concluded that salat as 'Social Justice  and  "Az-Zakat" as
'Distribution of Wealth/Resources was incorrect, therefore I concluded 
"uh-no and uh-no" what do you think?



                                                :peace:
Salam/Peace paste what exactly?

hawk99

Quote from: The Sardar on March 23, 2018, 12:50:35 AM
Salam/Peace paste what exactly?

@ The Sardar, I copied the definitions of Sad-Lam-Waw and Zay-Kaf-Waw 
from project root list but decided not to use them in my post!

Copy = gather information
paste = put in another place


                                                  :peace:
The secret to monotheism can be found in the garden

IsaMuslim

Quote from: The Sardar on March 22, 2018, 11:04:16 AM
Red: That is not exactly correct dear brother, we are more servants because in these verses talks about freeing slaves. (90:10-14, 2:177, 9:60)

You can see an article by brother Wakas: http://www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/islam-quran-abolish-slavery.htm
Salaam brother,
Of course it depends on your definitions of "servant" and "slave".

To me, whether we say that we are slaves of God, or servants of God, is the same; the concept of being slaves/servants to God ('Abd) is that we are dependant on Him, like a slave is dependant on his master.

The Quran of course is to abolish the literal slavery between humans.
Is he who is based on proof from his Lord, as he for whom his evil works have been adorned for him and they followed their desires?
~ 47:14 ~

The Sardar

Quote from: IsaMuslim on March 23, 2018, 07:57:48 AM
Salaam brother,
Of course it depends on your definitions of "servant" and "slave".

To me, whether we say that we are slaves of God, or servants of God, is the same; the concept of being slaves/servants to God ('Abd) is that we are dependant on Him, like a slave is dependant on his master.

The Quran of course is to abolish the literal slavery between humans.
I am not sure of being slaves of God would really fit us to be honest, He gave us an important advice to verify information (17:36). Plus abolishing slavery but beings slaves to our beloved Creator would be hypocritical. Servant is more fitting because you are upholding the covenant of Allah (SWTAY). (http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/covenant-quran.html)

amin

Quote from: TellMeTheTruth on January 17, 2018, 01:16:42 PM
Salam! Establish Love/Affection? It is good to ears but Why, How and with/for whom? Please elaborate.


So how do we show our grattitude to someone whom we are indebted?

By Salat  some just say we connect to Him, but how? In many  faiths including Islam, people bring in offerings and used to distribute to the needy, and  in Quranic verses too Zakat/help comes mostly along with Salat .We are blessed and also in need of blessings and Salat i think is our expression in return to that blessings we get. God loves/bless us and naturally we should return the same.  Salat to God could be the way we express our love and affection to Him. It can be in any way we think is opt. The rich  by  giving their excess wealth, a learned one could share their knowledge and each one serving what they are blessed with. I donot think Salaat ends up in a plain ritual but it creates a platform to volunteer ourselves to give back what we are blessed with.

When the Malaikah do Salat on the Prophet, then they are  showing their favor/support to the prophet to spread his message and thats Allah's Salat too.