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Started by remfan1994, July 08, 2024, 04:10:28 AM

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first of all, i want to say, ALHAMDUILLAH, all strength is from the spirit, and we can tangibly experience how this governs our discussion as it is the government of all things. 
Quote from: jkhan on July 08, 2024, 07:48:03 PMPeace... Hey welcome...

What do you mean by The Spirit? Shall I take the dictionary meaning or do you have a specific definition for it.. pls enlighten me..
https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?msg=444468 <--like to post #3 above, where I defined the spirit as consciousness based on a thorough examination of the scriptures. also see post 6 above for further elaboration (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?msg=444474).

Quoteafter explaining the above...

Pls translate the below verse for info

La Ilaha Illa Quawa
La Ilaha Illa Ana


Thank you brother/sister.. :laugh:
Did you want me to translate this to you, or from you?  Google brought me here: https://myislam.org/allahu-la-ilaha-illa-huwal-hayyul-qayyum/ where it is said to mean "Allah – there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of all existence."  I feel that fits with my contributions from the above posts, that Allah is associated with life, and living, and existence -- as consciousness also is, and that is my definition of spirit from earlier in the thread. as for '-illa ana', from (https://surahquran.com/transliteration-aya-14-sora-20.html) indeed it is true, Allah is most high, and worship of anything else is wrong.  As I posted earlier, I could prove the worship of anything else is wrong when ALLAH (THE SPIRIT) is defined as consciousness.  To seek help from sources other than consciousness (knowledge, watchfulness, etc) will not always or even usually result in the best outcome, and less than the best outcome is not worthy of worship when the best outcome is available to all through ALLAH. 

thanks for reading

jkhan

Quote from: remfan1994 on July 08, 2024, 11:25:21 PMfirst of all, i want to say, ALHAMDUILLAH, all strength is from the spirit, and we can tangibly experience how this governs our discussion as it is the government of all things.  https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?msg=444468 <--like to post #3 above, where I defined the spirit as consciousness based on a thorough examination of the scriptures. also see post 6 above for further elaboration (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?msg=444474).
Did you want me to translate this to you, or from you?  Google brought me here: https://myislam.org/allahu-la-ilaha-illa-huwal-hayyul-qayyum/ where it is said to mean "Allah – there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of all existence."  I feel that fits with my contributions from the above posts, that Allah is associated with life, and living, and existence -- as consciousness also is, and that is my definition of spirit from earlier in the thread. as for '-illa ana', from (https://surahquran.com/transliteration-aya-14-sora-20.html) indeed it is true, Allah is most high, and worship of anything else is wrong.  As I posted earlier, I could prove the worship of anything else is wrong when ALLAH (THE SPIRIT) is defined as consciousness.  To seek help from sources other than consciousness (knowledge, watchfulness, etc) will not always or even usually result in the best outcome, and less than the best outcome is not worthy of worship when the best outcome is available to all through ALLAH. 

thanks for reading

Consciousness is one of the attributes of being a Supreme Being / The Deity or as you call The Spirit and how can we call the most important word Allah as the Consciousness when Allah has many attributions including consciousness...

Anyway.. as you wish.. as long as you believe in your Creator and do deeds of good and avoid evil and  NOT associations with Allah anything... 

Thank you...
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remfan1994

Quote from: jkhan on July 08, 2024, 11:49:47 PMhow can we call the most important word Allah as the Consciousness when Allah has many attributions including consciousness...

that's why i'm here, i'm trying to say, if you look at the 99 names, how many of them are not either directly about consciousness itself or else support/propriety of conscious beings

every function of ALLAH is related to consciousness, either as consciousness itself or as the claim to the things pertaining to consciousness.

that is to say, for example, we see ROBIL-ALLAH is watchfulness, and that is consciousness itself
then we can go on and look at AL HAQ, the truth/the real, and we know that is necessary for the support of conscious beings, for without it our suffering would overtake us more easily

the examples go on but ALLAH is ar rashid and I have to leave it to ALLAH, INSHA-ALLAH!

alhamduillah
upon you be peace

jkhan

Quote from: remfan1994 on July 08, 2024, 11:56:46 PMthat's why i'm here, i'm trying to say, if you look at the 99 names, how many of them are not either directly about consciousness itself or else support/propriety of conscious beings

every function of ALLAH is related to consciousness, either as consciousness itself or as the claim to the things pertaining to consciousness.

that is to say, for example, we see ROBIL-ALLAH is watchfulness, and that is consciousness itself
then we can go on and look at AL HAQ, the truth/the real, and we know that is necessary for the support of conscious beings, for without it our suffering would overtake us more easily

the examples go on but ALLAH is ar rashid and I have to leave it to ALLAH, INSHA-ALLAH!

alhamduillah
upon you be peace

Allah is indeed conscious of everything but it is not the main element of Allah.. I don't know about 99 or fewer or more elements but each element is different but correlated though but not one..

Is Might a consciousness or the capacity of strength? Isn't Allah Mighty?
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