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Started by jkhan, January 29, 2024, 09:40:04 PM

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jkhan

I was discussing a bit with my best friend... But I am interested hear your views..
What you think THANKING ALLAH is? Being grateful to Allah means saying by words like Alahamdulillah and done.. Even Alahamdulillah doesn't mean thank you Allah..

shīn kāf rā ... Grateful is the word I am talking about... What's it in Quran?

Pls share your up to date understanding and yout understanding after seeing this topic...
Thank you
Salam..
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jkhan

Quote from: jkhan on January 29, 2024, 09:40:04 PM
I was discussing a bit with my best friend... But I am interested hear your views..
What you think THANKING ALLAH is? Being grateful to Allah means saying by words like Alahamdulillah and done.. Even Alahamdulillah doesn't mean thank you Allah..

shīn kāf rā ... Grateful is the word I am talking about... What's it in Quran?

Pls share your up to date understanding and yout understanding after seeing this topic...
Thank you
Salam..

Let me just bring one verse for reflection...

31:14
"Be grateful to Me and to your parents; to Me is the destination."

We all know being grateful can be performed by words in order to show your appreciation... It is so great if words reflect what they utter... Here in this verse God says "Be grateful to ME and to your PARENTS" ...
My logical question is what is being grateful to parents mean?  Is it words? Mother,  father thank you... Or  the word BE GRATEFUL  is beyond that and loads of combined efforts of good actions in appreciation of what Parents have done to children when they were kids...?  So reflect what could be the meaning of BE GRATEFUL to Allah means? 

Any thoughts... Indeed welcome..
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good logic

Yes indeed brother jkhan. Thanking GOD is doing good deeds- work righyouesness- as appreciation to His guidance.
Example 34:13:
They made for him anything he wanted - niches, statues, deep pools, and heavy cooking pots. O family of David, work (righteousness) to show your appreciation. Only a few of My servants are appreciative.
يَعمَلونَ لَهُ ما يَشاءُ مِن مَحٰريبَ وَتَمٰثيلَ وَجِفانٍ كَالجَوابِ وَقُدورٍ راسِيٰتٍ اعمَلوا ءالَ داوۥدَ شُكرًا وَقَليلٌ مِن عِبادِىَ الشَّكورُ

Work your thankfulness not say it.. i.e Being thankful is doing good deeds back to those you wish to thank or to others.
Like helping other people to show our thanks to those who helped us.

GOD bless you.
Peace.
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jkhan

Quote from: good logic on January 30, 2024, 12:12:44 PM
Yes indeed brother jkhan. Thanking GOD is doing good deeds- work righyouesness- as appreciation to His guidance.
Example 34:13:
They made for him anything he wanted - niches, statues, deep pools, and heavy cooking pots. O family of David, work (righteousness) to show your appreciation. Only a few of My servants are appreciative.
يَعمَلونَ لَهُ ما يَشاءُ مِن مَحٰريبَ وَتَمٰثيلَ وَجِفانٍ كَالجَوابِ وَقُدورٍ راسِيٰتٍ اعمَلوا ءالَ داوۥدَ شُكرًا وَقَليلٌ مِن عِبادِىَ الشَّكورُ

Work your thankfulness not say it.. i.e Being thankful is doing good deeds back to those you wish to thank or to others.
Like helping other people to show our thanks to those who helped us.

GOD bless you.
Peace.

Salam

Glad to hear that you hold that understanding of word Grateful ..for me indeed Being grateful is full of action in appreciation as you say.. Thank you...
You know Allah also be gratful for our actions...so Allah doesn't merely thank us... But he in return doing in action such as reward and make us happy... Hechas a big plan for believers.. He is grateful
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jkhan

@ Goodlogic

Since you replied,  I further would like to bring to light with some other verses..
Pls carefully read 10:22 and 10:23 ...it really indicates a broader picture of being Grateful to Allah..

@everyone.

Pls share your knowledge in this topic perhaps I would be ale to get some more reflection based on your understandings...

Note.. I am not an Arab but as far as I know Arabs of modern days use phrases like Shukran  Jazeeran..Shukran Jiddan.. It all means instant thanks.. But I don't see the Quran meaning in their usage of the word Shin Kahf Ra..

We all talk about dogs and their gratefulness towards their master,  I feel we all should be like dogs literally towards our Lord..  Truthfulness at its finest..

Thank you...
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good logic

Peace jkhan.

10:22 , those who implore GOD when they are in trouble and promise that they will be appreciative if GOD helps them;
However in 10;23 they turn out unappreciative and do the opposite. They break their promise and rebel/commit transgressions and oppose the truth..

"  Be thankful" in 10:22 means we do good and follow GOD s straight path// follow GOD s commands and instructions and work righteousness in our life.
Transgressing in 10:23 means opposing GOD and follow the "Taghout path" .
I am in agreement with you . Thanking GOD means to do/ work righteousness and follow the straight path in our life.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
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good logic

And just to clarify that "Thanking GOD is something we do  and not something we say, GOD gives the consequences of being thankful and the opposite in 10:25 -26 and 27:


God invites to the abode of peace, and guides whomever He wills in a straight path.
وَاللَّهُ يَدعوا إِلىٰ دارِ السَّلٰمِ وَيَهدى مَن يَشاءُ إِلىٰ صِرٰطٍ مُستَقيمٍ

Those who are thankful ,follow the straight path:

For the righteous, the reward will be multiplied manifold. Their faces will never experience any deprivation or shame. These are the dwellers of Paradise; they abide therein forever.
لِلَّذينَ أَحسَنُوا الحُسنىٰ وَزِيادَةٌ وَلا يَرهَقُ وُجوهَهُم قَتَرٌ وَلا ذِلَّةٌ أُولٰئِكَ أَصحٰبُ الجَنَّةِ هُم فيها خٰلِدونَ

And the opposite, those who are not/transgress:

As for those who earned sins, their requital is equivalent to their sin. Humiliation is their lot, and no one beside God can protect them. Their faces will seem overwhelmed by masses of dark night. They will be the dwellers of Hell; they abide therein forever.
وَالَّذينَ كَسَبُوا السَّيِّـٔاتِ جَزاءُ سَيِّئَةٍ بِمِثلِها وَتَرهَقُهُم ذِلَّةٌ ما لَهُم مِنَ اللَّهِ مِن عاصِمٍ كَأَنَّما أُغشِيَت وُجوهُهُم قِطَعًا مِنَ الَّيلِ مُظلِمًا أُولٰئِكَ أَصحٰبُ النّارِ هُم فيها خٰلِدونَ

The consequences/-rewards /sanctions are given for our works ,not saying words of thanks.

GOD bless you.
Peace.
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jkhan

Quote from: good logic on February 01, 2024, 04:47:28 PM
Peace jkhan.

10:22 , those who implore GOD when they are in trouble and promise that they will be appreciative if GOD helps them;
However in 10;23 they turn out unappreciative and do the opposite. They break their promise and rebel/commit transgressions and oppose the truth..

"  Be thankful" in 10:22 means we do good and follow GOD s straight path// follow GOD s commands and instructions and work righteousness in our life.
Transgressing in 10:23 means opposing GOD and follow the "Taghout path" .
I am in agreement with you . Thanking GOD means to do/ work righteousness and follow the straight path in our life.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Peace.. Thank you for reply... Excellent..

I would like to combine this topic with sīn bā ḥā (س ب ح)  and ḥā mīm dāl (ح م د)

Indeed it involves words and mind.. I know everything on earth and heavens Sabih.. How they do we don't realize... But they do.. But what exactly one has to do?
Allah says Lahu mulku walahu hamdu.. It clearly indicates Hamd is something like Majesty.. Alhamdullah ...is it like The majesty /supremacy  is to Allah... So if Majesty  belongs to Allah alone then sabih / exalting only belongs to Him.
Subahanalla / Exaltation belongs to Him..

How to exalt His majesty..?  Words?
For me indeed words with reflection... But not necessary arabic words obviously cuz everything Sabih Allah on earth and heavens so just leave language issue.. ... You have to exalt Allah almost always but not with mere words but complete agreement with words what We utter.. For example below verse..

14:39
"The Majesty  is to Allah (Alhamdulillah) , who has granted to me in old age Ishmael and Isaac. Indeed, my Lord is the Hearer of supplication."

So.. Here Ibrahim begins with Alahamdulillah and give reasons abd it means Ibrahim communicates with Allah after Exalting Allah..

Even if you take the very first chapter after exalting Allah it teaches us to communicate with Allah.....

Any thoughts...
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good logic

Peace jkhan.

Thank you is working /doing good deeds as appreciation , Hamd is being grateful and acknowledging the blessing/reward by words/ advertising and praise.
Reverencing GOD comes with both Hamd and Sabh . i.e GOD will be in the mind 24/7 . A number one priority in our life day and night. Absolute devotion and love of GOD  comes with hamd , thanks and sabh

When GOD s guidance quicks in, we start to become appreciative, grateful and devoted to GOD Alone. Advertising GOD Alone In words and deeds, in our way of life GOD and His message/instructions become our number one priority.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
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38:65″ Say:? I warn you; There is no other god beside GOD, the One, the Supreme.?
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jkhan

Quote from: good logic on February 03, 2024, 09:15:05 AM
Peace jkhan.

Thank you is working /doing good deeds as appreciation , Hamd is being grateful and acknowledging the blessing/reward by words/ advertising and praise.
Reverencing GOD comes with both Hamd and Sabh . i.e GOD will be in the mind 24/7 . A number one priority in our life day and night. Absolute devotion and love of GOD  comes with hamd , thanks and sabh

When GOD s guidance quicks in, we start to become appreciative, grateful and devoted to GOD Alone. Advertising GOD Alone In words and deeds, in our way of life GOD and His message/instructions become our number one priority.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Thank you GL brother...

@everyone

17:111
Majesty to Allah (Alhamd lillah) , who has not taken a son and has had no partner in dominion and has no protector out of weakness; and magnify Him with glorification."

Take a look at above verse...  It all has a meaning... Reflect about Allah and once the reflection convinces you thrn you acknowledge and then you spontaneously Sabih /exalt the name of the Lord.. 
There is no sabih without reflection... As you can see in verse 3:191 they think of Allah's creations and immediately says 'SubhanaKa'/ Exalted you are...
No rituals... No mere words... even 1000 times daily if one says Alhamdullah without any reflection at all like a parrot or robot.. No point...
So reflect about Allah and His creations and His mercy, all of signs.. humble,  acknowledge,  Exalt Him with His Majesty... Make your connection to Allah more strong and lively... Don't just make it a word or phrase which mouth releases like conventional Muslims greet each other while mind is empty.. . Making Allah's name proud is not just saying His name... Making your company or yout mother's  name shining or proud doesn't mean just saying the names but in actions and speak heads up... Glorify the name of Allah by you being person full of actions which pleases your Lord. Indeed you are glorifying then.. Words should and can be spoken highly of in action you are...

That's my take..
Salam..
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