Are magicians (tricksters) within islam or outside of islam?

[mz357]

Salaam all,
                I have called the u'lama magicians because they are the ones i think currently doing the magic ,and with that have captured the whole muslim population-only Allah can counter that

35:27-28,
Do you not see that God sends down water from the sky, thus we produce with it fruits of various colours?and of the mountains are peaks that are white,red,or some other colour and intense black.

And from the people , and the animals , the livestock, are various colours.As such,only those with knowledge (of the former), u'lama,among Gods servents reverence Him.God is Noble Forgiving.

I dont know why we call the traditional alims -alims when they need to have  knowledges according to the above ayates , about the rain cycle -weather,plants-horticulture,about the mountains -geology,about humans ,about animalse.t.c

Wouldn't you agree an engineer , a doctor e.t.c without having the respactive knowledge would be put in jail for calling themselves as such.

How come traditional alims are given the positions of u'lama without any such knowledge of what God is talking about?

[PrinceZ?D]

You people are like kids playing in the play ground. Why do you keep talking about "Magic"??

What about MIRACLES??? Do you people disbelieve in them?? Do you people think that there are people in the world who cannot perform miracles?? Do you people not believe i these Saints??