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Started by Emre_1974tr, September 27, 2021, 04:00:32 PM

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Quran saying The elites always kept the books from you.

Quran 6:91 They did not value God as He deserves to be valued, for they said, "God has never sent down anything to any human being." Say, "Who then has sent down the book which Moses had come with, a light and guidance for the people? You treat it just as scrolls of paper; you show some of it and conceal much, though you were taught what neither you nor your fathers knew." Say, "God has." Then leave them playing in their folly.

Matthew Mark or Yuhanna always wrote hadith books.

Mattheww or Mark are like Bukhari. They are hadith writers. You(Christians, Jews) have not got holy books.

God's word hasn't changed. Your priests have adopted fake books. They gave you the hadith books as the Bible and deceived you.

False Torah and false Gospels are pagan hadith boks.
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John

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on September 27, 2021, 04:00:32 PM
Quran saying The elites always kept the books from you.

Quran 6:91 They did not value God as He deserves to be valued, for they said, "God has never sent down anything to any human being." Say, "Who then has sent down the book which Moses had come with, a light and guidance for the people? You treat it just as scrolls of paper; you show some of it and conceal much, though you were taught what neither you nor your fathers knew." Say, "God has." Then leave them playing in their folly.

Matthew Mark or Yuhanna always wrote hadith books.

Mattheww or Mark are like Bukhari. They are hadith writers. You(Christians, Jews) have not got holy books.

God's word hasn't changed. Your priests have adopted fake books. They gave you the hadith books as the Bible and deceived you.

False Torah and false Gospels are pagan hadith boks.

Nice comment. Pity it's so inaccurate.

The problem with your attempted comparison is that you really are showing your complete ignorance of the Gospels and hadiths.

Bukhari et al collected their stories more than 2 centuries after your false prophet.

Matthew was a tax collector whom Yeshua took as one of his disciples ("Jesus left there and as he passed on he saw a man called Matthew sitting at his desk in the tax-collector's office. "Follow me!" he said to him—and the man got to his feet and followed him." Gospel of Matthew 9:9). According to Papias (a disciple of John) Matthew wrote his Gospel within a decade of Yeshua's crucifixion and resurrection. Matthew was an eye-witness to the events that occurred 2000 years ago. You cannot get a better historical witness than that...unless you're brain-dead and think someone born more than 500 years later is more qualified to speak about events that occurred 10-15 generations earlier. Yep, only the brain-dead would claim that! (BTW, Matthew, as did 10 of the other disciples, bet his life on this. He said I am willing to die rather than deny what I saw with my own eyes.)

Regarding John, he, too, was an eye-witness. He writes that he SWEARS in front of God that what he saw was true and accurate. He wrote, "Jesus gave a great many other signs in the presence of his disciples which are not recorded in this book. But these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is Christ, the Son of God, and that in that faith you may have life as his disciples...Now it is this same disciple who is hereby giving his testimony to these things and has written them down. We know that his witness is reliable. Of course, there are many other things which Jesus did, and I suppose that if each one were written down in detail, there would not be room in the whole world for all the books that would have to be written." (John Gospel chapters 20 & 21)

John also wrote to us alive today: "We are writing to you about something which has always existed yet which we ourselves actually saw and heard: something which we had an opportunity to observe closely and even to hold in our hands, and yet, as we know now, was something of the very Word of life himself! For it was life which appeared before us: we saw it, we are eye-witnesses of it, and are now writing to you about it. It was the very life of all ages, the life that has always existed with the Father, which actually became visible in person to us mortal men. We repeat, we really saw and heard what we are now writing to you about. We want you to be with us in this—in this fellowship with the Father, and Jesus Christ his Son. We must write and tell you about it, because the more that fellowship extends the greater the joy it brings to us who are already in it." (1 John 1)

Relying, without proof or argument on a book, except for the book itself, a book written more than 500 years after the events as though that is sufficient, is, well, a brain-dead argument. It's INTELLECTUAL SUICIDE. Don't forget, only Muhammad "saw" the "angel". Only Muhammad gave a "testimony". No one else can verify a single thing in the Koran except for the Koran's self-authentication. That's about as circular and irrational as one could ever get.

Son, you need to get some education before you open your mouth about a book you have ZERO understanding about. Not only that, but you show an equal measure of ignorance about ancient historiography.

Emre_1974tr

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on September 27, 2021, 04:00:32 PM
Quran saying The elites always kept the books from you.

Quran 6:91 They did not value God as He deserves to be valued, for they said, "God has never sent down anything to any human being." Say, "Who then has sent down the book which Moses had come with, a light and guidance for the people? You treat it just as scrolls of paper; you show some of it and conceal much, though you were taught what neither you nor your fathers knew." Say, "God has." Then leave them playing in their folly.

Matthew Mark or Yuhanna always wrote hadith books.

Mattheww or Mark are like Bukhari. They are hadith writers. You(Christians, Jews) have not got holy books.

God's word hasn't changed. Your priests have adopted fake books. They gave you the hadith books as the Bible and deceived you.

False Torah and false Gospels are pagan hadith boks.

Pagans who worship idols or humans are aware that the things they worship are not gods. But in their perverted pantheistic philosophy, they see what they worship as a reflection, a manifestation, a part of God. Thus, they fall into the trap of the devil. They think they are monotheists, but they are actually polytheists.

The fact that the pharaoh sees himself as a Lord is also the result of this pantheist philosophy. He thought of himself as the reflection, that is, the manifestation of God. Like all pantheists, he worshiped himself and the universe.

The Holy Qur'an clearly explains these facts. At the moment, the only real holy book we have is the Qur'an. On the other hand, the elites hiding the books like the Torah and gave the Fake Torah and false Bibles to the people(hadith books).

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And;

Christians(trinitarians) are "half panteists, and so pagans".

Christians "3 in 1"

Hindus "333 in 1"

Pantheists "all things in 1"

New Agers "we are in 1"

These are paganism.
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John

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on September 27, 2021, 10:28:34 PM
Pagans who worship idols or humans are aware that the things they worship are not gods. But in their perverted pantheistic philosophy, they see what they worship as a reflection, a manifestation, a part of God. Thus, they fall into the trap of the devil. They think they are monotheists, but they are actually polytheists.

The fact that the pharaoh sees himself as a Lord is also the result of this pantheist philosophy. He thought of himself as the reflection, that is, the manifestation of God. Like all pantheists, he worshiped himself and the universe.

The Holy Qur'an clearly explains these facts. At the moment, the only real holy book we have is the Qur'an. On the other hand, the elites hiding the books like the Torah and gave the Fake Torah and false Bibles to the people(hadith books).

****

And;

Christians(trinitarians) are "half panteists, and so pagans".

Christians "3 in 1"

Hindus "333 in 1"

Pantheists "all things in 1"

New Agers "we are in 1"

These are paganism.

I stand in awe at your acumen. Never have I witnessed such learning. Well, at least not at grade school.

Emre_1974tr

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on September 27, 2021, 04:00:32 PM
Quran saying The elites always kept the books from you.

Quran 6:91 They did not value God as He deserves to be valued, for they said, "God has never sent down anything to any human being." Say, "Who then has sent down the book which Moses had come with, a light and guidance for the people? You treat it just as scrolls of paper; you show some of it and conceal much, though you were taught what neither you nor your fathers knew." Say, "God has." Then leave them playing in their folly.

Matthew Mark or Yuhanna always wrote hadith books.

Mattheww or Mark are like Bukhari. They are hadith writers. You(Christians, Jews) have not got holy books.

God's word hasn't changed. Your priests have adopted fake books. They gave you the hadith books as the Bible and deceived you.

False Torah and false Gospels are pagan hadith boks.

So, Bible is apocryphal bible/false book.

Like other apocryphal gospels and books... And they are hadith books.

The only real holy book we have at the moment is the Qur'an.



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John

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on September 28, 2021, 06:48:35 AM
So, Bible is apocryphal bible/false book.

Like other apocryphal gospels and books... And they are hadith books.

The only real holy book we have at the moment is the Qur'an.

Ipse dixit.

good logic

Hi folks.
To the best of my knowledge, I am going to apologise for my recent off topics,,including this post. Please relax and enjoy my "Hadith":

Things I know:

Colours: "When the phone goes 'green green', I pink it up and say 'Yellow?'"
General: My knowledge is subjective, just like I know my opinion is always valid.
H.O.M.E.W.O.R.K. = Half of my energy waisted on random knowledge!
Well educated: Not at school or university but fell in a well-( Found in it a computer with internet)!!!-.
My name is Knowledge: I am the smartest in the army, they call me "General  Knowledge"!.
I acknowledge why we do not pronounce the "K" in knowledge.
I spread knowledge in the army. From private to general.
If I agree with you, we will both be wrong.
Light travels faster than sound. I appear bright, until I speak.

More? Ok:

A debate does not determine who is right - only who is left.
I do not do plagiarism . I do not steal your idea.. I do  research- I steal from many-.
I am never too old to learn something stupid.

Finally:

Imagination is more important than knowledge.
You don't stop laughing because you grow old. You grow old because you stop laughing.
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves and with others for they shall never cease to be amused

Some of what my hadith book will contain  for experience has given me the test first and the lesson afterwards.
Apologies for off topic.
GOD bless.
Peace
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John

"There is no other god beside GOD, the One, the Supreme."

Hate to bring you bad news, but James, Jesus' brother, wrote, "So you believe that there is one God? That's fine. So do all the devils in hell and shudder in terror!"

In other words, what James is saying is, BIG DEAL, even Satan knows there is only one God.

Emre_1974tr

Quote from: John on September 30, 2021, 04:57:06 AM
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In other words, what James is saying is,



You're even more perverted than devil/demon, pagan John.

And you are ignorant. You're a parrot repeating the lies that missionary school made you memorize.
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good logic


I agree. The Devil believes in GOD. It would have been beneficial for him if he obeyed GOD as well.
Also it is a difficult task for us to disobey the devil.
Yet GOD calls all of us:

When you get to your wit's end, You'll find God lives there.
Moses had the first tablet that could connect him to GOD.
We only remember GOD exist when we desperately need help.
Some people only call GOD s nose. They say "GOD knows".
Some do not know GOD:

A drunk says to stranger I am God and I can prove it to you.
Drunk accompanies him to a house in front of the bar and knocks on the door.
Woman opens the door and says, "Oh my god, you again."
Drunk man says to stranger, "see."

Some say that GOD is plotting to kill us since the day we were born and succeeds.
Some think GOD is a bone. It is called A blasfemur!
I asked GOD why there is earthquakes. He said "it was the earth s fault.

I remember a friend telling me a couple of jokes during my visit to my local church, I will share them  :

1-A husband and wife are in church. The preacher notices that the husband has fallen asleep and says to the wife, "Wake your husband up!" The wife answers, "You're the one who made him fall asleep, you wake him up!"

2--A Vicar asked his congregation to read Mark  gospel before next Sunday s sermon.
The following Sunday he asked: "Who read Mark 17?"
All the hands went up . After a pause he replied: " There are only 16 chapters in Mark. Now I will continue and do a sermon on "Lying is a sin"!

May the Lord bless you all.
Peace.
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