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The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injeel/Torah

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Iyyaka

Salam and thanks for sharing.
I will read all the assertions (inshallah)

But regarding the point 3 ("3. Needing Sleep?" - https://www.muslimbook.com/free-islamic-books/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/#post-362-_Toc96948500), the text of the psalms ( Psalm 78:65; Psalms 44:23) shows that it is not literally a matter of sleeping (as humans do) but, as the textual context shows, a matter of helping those who implore him. It is therefore a figure of speech...
Once again, one should avoid drawing verses in isolation from those around them, before drawing too hasty conclusions.

God bless you.
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John

1. Where is any copy of this "injeel" now?

2. What evidence is there that there was an injeel different from the Gospels before and/or at the time of Muhammad?

3. How come your god couldn't stop people tampering with and destroying it?

4. How logistically could a man or group of men go all the way around the world, to every nook and cranny, to every church, home, library, king's palace, monastery, university, rich man's house...and steal the "original" 1000's of injeels and replace it with a fake one OR alter its words? How could this occur and no one get caught or there be no one waking up in the morning going, "Hey, who's been altering my injeel?"

I'm still waiting for an honest Muslim (I know, an oxymoron!).


John

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on October 17, 2021, 11:32:15 AM
and;

https://www.answering-christianity.com/200_ways_quran_corrects_bible.pdf

The uneducated and blind leading the uneducated and blind...into a very deep ditch.

In any case, any takers on the following or are you still reckoning an incoherent book written by a medieval, pedophilic, murderous, adulterous, thieving, cruel war lord corrects the Bible?

1. Where is any copy of this "injeel" now?

2. What evidence is there that there was an injeel different from the Gospels before and/or at the time of Muhammad?

3. How come your god couldn't stop people tampering with and destroying it?

4. How logistically could a man or group of men go all the way around the world, to every nook and cranny, to every church, home, library, king's palace, monastery, university, rich man's house...and steal the "original" 1000's of injeels and replace it with a fake one OR alter its words? How could this occur and no one get caught or there be no one waking up in the morning going, "Hey, who's been altering my injeel?"

I'm still waiting for an honest Muslim (I know, an oxymoron!).

Emre_1974tr

HOLY QURAN CORRECTS THE FALSE BIBLE AGAIN

Contradiction; God eats solid food with Abraham. (Genesis 18:1-8)

Excuse; Abraham's visitors were just men or angels, God was not with them.
Rebuttal: According to the Matthew Henry Complete Commentary on (Genesis 18:1-18), God was
one of the visitors who ate with Abraham.

Correction: God is Self Sufcient and beyond needing or wanting any of the things that sustain a
human to live, such as food. Here we see that God corrects what is written in Genesis by declaring
within the Quran:

"Say: 'Shall I take for my protector any other than Allah, the Maker of the heavens and the earth?
And He it is that feedeth but is not fed." (Quran 6:14).

https://www.answering-christianity.com/200_ways_quran_corrects_bible.pdf
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John

1. Where is any copy of this "injeel" now?

2. What evidence is there that there was an injeel different from the Gospels before and/or at the time of Muhammad?

3. How come your god couldn't stop people tampering with and destroying it?

4. How logistically could a man or group of men go all the way around the world, to every nook and cranny, to every church, home, library, king's palace, monastery, university, rich man's house...and steal the "original" 1000's of injeels and replace it with a fake one OR alter its words? How could this occur and no one get caught or there be no one waking up in the morning going, "Hey, who's been altering my injeel?"

I'm still waiting for an honest Muslim (I know, an oxymoron!).

Emre_1974tr

HOLY QURAN CORRECTS THE FALSE BIBLE AGAIN

Contradiction; God eats solid food with Abraham. (Genesis 18:1-8)

Excuse; Abraham's visitors were just men or angels, God was not with them.
Rebuttal: According to the Matthew Henry Complete Commentary on (Genesis 18:1-18), God was
one of the visitors who ate with Abraham.

Correction: God is Self Sufcient and beyond needing or wanting any of the things that sustain a
human to live, such as food. Here we see that God corrects what is written in Genesis by declaring
within the Quran:

"Say: 'Shall I take for my protector any other than Allah, the Maker of the heavens and the earth?
And He it is that feedeth but is not fed." (Quran 6:14).

https://www.answering-christianity.com/200_ways_quran_corrects_bible.pdf
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John

AGAIN NO HONEST MUSLIMS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER A SET OF ELEMENTARY QUESTIONS. ISLAM IS JUST NOT UP TO THE TASK!


1. Where is any copy of this "injeel" now?

2. What evidence is there that there was an injeel different from the Gospels before and/or at the time of Muhammad?

3. How come your god couldn't stop people tampering with and destroying it?

4. How logistically could a man or group of men go all the way around the world, to every nook and cranny, to every church, home, library, king's palace, monastery, university, rich man's house...and steal the "original" 1000's of injeels and replace it with a fake one OR alter its words? How could this occur and no one get caught or there be no one waking up in the morning going, "Hey, who's been altering my injeel?"

I'm still waiting for an honest Muslim (I know, an oxymoron!).

Emre_1974tr

HOLY QURAN CORRECTS THE FALSE BIBLE AGAIN

Contradiction; God eats solid food with Abraham. (Genesis 18:1-8)

Excuse; Abraham's visitors were just men or angels, God was not with them.
Rebuttal: According to the Matthew Henry Complete Commentary on (Genesis 18:1-18), God was
one of the visitors who ate with Abraham.

Correction: God is Self Sufcient and beyond needing or wanting any of the things that sustain a
human to live, such as food. Here we see that God corrects what is written in Genesis by declaring
within the Quran:

"Say: 'Shall I take for my protector any other than Allah, the Maker of the heavens and the earth?
And He it is that feedeth but is not fed." (Quran 6:14).

https://www.answering-christianity.com/200_ways_quran_corrects_bible.pdf
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John

AGAIN NO HONEST MUSLIMS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER A SET OF ELEMENTARY QUESTIONS. ISLAM IS JUST NOT UP TO THE TASK!


1. Where is any copy of this "injeel" now?

2. What evidence is there that there was an injeel different from the Gospels before and/or at the time of Muhammad?

3. How come your god couldn't stop people tampering with and destroying it?

4. How logistically could a man or group of men go all the way around the world, to every nook and cranny, to every church, home, library, king's palace, monastery, university, rich man's house...and steal the "original" 1000's of injeels and replace it with a fake one OR alter its words? How could this occur and no one get caught or there be no one waking up in the morning going, "Hey, who's been altering my injeel?"

I'm still waiting for an honest Muslim (I know, an oxymoron!).

Emre_1974tr

Holy Quran corrects the false Bible again:

Contradiction; God does not punish the children for the sins of the parents (Ezekiel 18:20) Vs"the
iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations". (Exodus 20:5)

Excuse; Guilt is not passed on but consequences are.

Rebuttal: First, (Ezekiel 18:20) does not differentiate between guilt or consequence, only inequity
and righteousness. Second, guilt in many cases is as bad as or worse than the consequences, for
example; Edgar Allen Poe's story "The Tell Tale Heart." Third, many other verses from the Bible do
not differentiate with which aspect of sin is not passed; (Jeremiah 31:30), (Psalms 49:7),
(Deuteronomy 24:16)

Correction: God only punishes those who are transgressors and disbelievers. In contrast to the
Bible, God does not collectively punish in the Quran.

"Who receiveth guidance, receiveth it for his own benet: who goeth astray doth so to his own loss:
No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another: nor would We visit with Our Wrath until We
had sent an messenger (to give warning)." (Quran 17:15)


https://www.answering-christianity.com/200_ways_quran_corrects_bible.pdf
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John

Where is a brave Muslim when you need one? Come out, come out wherever you are.

Who wants to answer some very simple questions about Islam? Nobody?



1. Where is any copy of this original "injeel" now?

2. What evidence is there that there was an original injeel different from the Gospels before and/or at the time of Muhammad?

3. How come your god couldn't stop people tampering with and destroying it?

4. How logistically could a man or group of men go all the way around the world, to every nook and cranny, to every church, home, library, king's palace, monastery, university, rich man's house...and steal the "original" 1000's of original injeels and replace it with a fake one OR alter its words? How could this occur and no one get caught or there be no one waking up in the morning going, "Hey, who's been altering my injeel?"

I'm still waiting for an honest Muslim (I know, an oxymoron!).

Emre_1974tr

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on October 18, 2021, 04:56:39 AM
Holy Quran corrects the false Bible again:

Contradiction; God does not punish the children for the sins of the parents (Ezekiel 18:20) Vs"the
iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations". (Exodus 20:5)

Excuse; Guilt is not passed on but consequences are.

Rebuttal: First, (Ezekiel 18:20) does not differentiate between guilt or consequence, only inequity
and righteousness. Second, guilt in many cases is as bad as or worse than the consequences, for
example; Edgar Allen Poe's story "The Tell Tale Heart." Third, many other verses from the Bible do
not differentiate with which aspect of sin is not passed; (Jeremiah 31:30), (Psalms 49:7),
(Deuteronomy 24:16)

Correction: God only punishes those who are transgressors and disbelievers. In contrast to the
Bible, God does not collectively punish in the Quran.

"Who receiveth guidance, receiveth it for his own benet: who goeth astray doth so to his own loss:
No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another: nor would We visit with Our Wrath until We
had sent an messenger (to give warning)." (Quran 17:15)


https://www.answering-christianity.com/200_ways_quran_corrects_bible.pdf

The Quran Corrects the False Bible

"Contradiction; Animals were created before man was created. (Genesis 1:24-27) Vs Man was created before animals were created. (Genesis 2:7, 19)

Excuse; (Genesis 2) is only descriptive and the two chapters do not exactly say when the animals were created.

Rebuttal: What apologists fail to comprehend is that in (Genesis 1), after God made the animals, the decision to make man was consummated. While in (Genesis 2), after man was made, God said, "It is not good that the man should be alone," then the decision to make animals was executed.

Correction: Logically, animals were created before humans in order for humans to have food. The Holy Quran lists this sequence here:

"Hast thou not seen that unto Allah payeth adoration whosoever is in the heavens and whosoever is in the earth, and the sun, and the moon, and the stars, and the hills, and the trees, and the beasts, and many of mankind, while there are many unto whom the doom is justly due. He whom Allah scorneth, there is none to give him honor. Lo! Allah doeth what He will." (Quran 22:18)"
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John

Where is a brave Muslim when you need one? Come out, come out wherever you are.

Who wants to answer some very simple questions about Islam? Nobody?


1. Where is any copy of this "injeel" now?

2. What evidence is there that there was an injeel different from the Gospels before and/or at the time of Muhammad?

3. How come your god couldn't stop people tampering with and destroying it?

4. How logistically could a man or group of men go all the way around the world, to every nook and cranny, to every church, home, library, king's palace, monastery, university, rich man's house...and steal the "original" 1000's of injeels and replace it with a fake one OR alter its words? How could this occur and no one get caught or there be no one waking up in the morning going, "Hey, who's been altering my injeel?"

I'm still waiting for an honest Muslim (I know, an oxymoron!).

Emre_1974tr

"Contradiction; Jesus said, "do not defend yourselves" (Matthew 5:39, Matthew 26:52) Vs Jesus said, "defend yourselves" (Luke 22:36)

Excuse; Some Biblical words are being taken literally instead of symbolically or metaphorically. "turn the other cheek." Figuratively meant, "be moral".

Rebuttal: Actually, turn the other cheek was a literal commandment because Jesus himself demonstrated this law;

"When he had said this, one of the officers standing by struck Jesus with his hand, saying, "Is that how you answer the high priest?" Jesus answered him, "If I have spoken wrongly, bear witness to the wrong; but if I have spoken rightly, why do you strike me?" (John 18:22-23)

Rather than attacking the officer or causing the officer to evaporate (since Christians claim Jesus is God), instead Jesus reasons with the guard.

This means that if your enemy strikes or attacks you, you are to allow him or her to attack you without striking back. You are to take the punishment without reacting. If the Christians in history allowed themselves to be attacked without retaliating as Jesus ordered, than there would be no Christians left today.

Correction: The Quran saves the Bible regarding the rule given by Jesus by clarifying that when you are being attacked, it is best to have patience and forgiveness against the attack, But then if the attacks continue, than we are given the permission to retaliate only with the equal amount of force that was used against us:

"And if you take your turn, then retaliate with the like of that with which you were afflicted; But if ye endure patiently, verily it is better for the patient." (Quran 16:126)

Therefore, we are given the permission to repel attacks, to protect ourselves, although God prefers forgiveness."
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