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A new God's messenger!

Started by shukri, September 21, 2023, 03:25:49 AM

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shukri

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(1) Attention to all submitters who believe Rashad Khalifa was a Messenger of the Covenant (3:81)!
(2) Nowadays, there is a man named Alban Fejza who said he is a God's Messenger destined to come after Rashad Khalifa to clarify everything about al-Quran.
https://submitters.net/three-messengers-one-mahdi/ (Three Messengers, One Mahdi)
https://submitters.net/the-clarifying-messenger/ (The Clarifying Messenger)

(3) He is an Albanian and claimed to be one of the three messengers prophesied in surah Ya Sin 36:13-14!
36:13 Mention for them the example of the urbanized world that received the messengers.
36:14 When we sent to them two, they disbelieved them. We then strengthened them by a third. They said, "We are messengers to you."

(4) For the one who interested to know his messages in detail please surf youtube's videos below or contact him at submitters.net@gmail.com
Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ5IPTF0MOZu2kWBrQsv5Ag

I personally have gone through about a dozen of his videos and so far haven't made up my mind on his messengership.
May God give me His mercy and guidance!
Glory be to God!

Thank you.
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

Sarah

Peace

Muhammed is the seal of the prophets is he not? I know not every messenger is a prophet but, why would you think there will be any new messengers?
'These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement (hadith) after Allah and His verses will they believe? (45:6)'

shukri

Quote from: Sarah on September 22, 2023, 05:23:56 PM
Peace

Muhammed is the seal of the prophets is he not? I know not every messenger is a prophet but, why would you think there will be any new messengers?

Peace

Please see this link:
https://www.quran-islam.org/prophet_and_messenger_(P1161).html
(The difference between prophet and messenger)

Conclusion:
1. All prophets are also messengers, simply because they deliver a message from God.
2. Many messengers do not deliver a Scripture, thus they are not prophets.
3. There will be messengers to come after Muhammad, all the way to the end of the world (10:47).
4. Muhammad was the final prophet. No prophets will come after Muhammad (33:40)
5. Therefore, all messengers who come after Muhammad will not be sent with Scriptures.

10:47 To each community, a messenger. After their messenger comes, they are judged equitably, without the least injustice.
33:40 Muhammad was not the father of any man among you. He was a messenger of God and the final prophet. God is fully aware of all things.

Thanks.
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

shukri

Quote from: Sarah on September 22, 2023, 05:23:56 PM
why would you think there will be any new messengers?

The verse below is another proof that a new messenger will come after Muhammad's era:

3:81 God took a covenant from the prophets, "For what I have given you of the Scripture and wisdom, then afterwards, a messenger comes to you, confirming what is with you; you shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree to this and accept this obligation from Me?" They said, "We agree." He said, "Therefore bear witness and I am with you among the witnesses."

Thank.
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

shukri

Quote from: Sarah on September 22, 2023, 05:23:56 PM
why would you think there will be any new messengers?

In addition:
Here, I quote the duties of the two new "messengers" who came after Muhammad's era based on their claimed:

(1) Rashad Khalifa (https://submission.org/App2.html)

1. Unveil and proclaim the Quran's mathematical miracle (Appendix 1).
2. Expose and remove the two false verses 9:128-129 from the Quran (Appendix 24).
3. Explain the purpose of our lives; why we are here (Appendix 7).
4. Proclaim one religion for all the people, and point out and purge away all the corruptions afflicting Judaism, Christianity, and Islam (Appendices 13, 15, 19).
5. Proclaim that Zakat (obligatory charity) is a prerequisite for redemption (7:156), and explain the correct method of observing Zakat (Appendix 15).
6. Unveil the end of the world (Appendix 25).
7. Proclaim that those who die before the age of 40 go to Heaven (Appendix 32).
8. Explain Jesus' death (Appendix 22).
9. Explain the Quran's delivery to, then through Muhammad (Appendix 28).
10. Announce that Muhammad wrote God's revelations (the Quran) with his own hand (Appendix 28).
11. Explain why most believers in God do not make it to Heaven (Appendix 27).
12. Proclaim that God never ordered Abraham to kill his son (Appendix 9).
13. Proclaim the secret of perfect happiness (Introduction, xx).
14. Establish a criminal justice system (Appendix 37).

To be continued ...
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

shukri

(2) Alban Fejza (https://submitters.net/three-messengers-one-mahdi/)

1. Alban explains how God created the world in six days, in detail, in agreement with science. No one has done that before.
2. Alban explains how the universe is constructed, and he complete the understanding of the most fundamental cosmological questions. No one has done that before.
3. Alban explains the fundamental law of physics. No one has done that before.
4. Alban explains the fundamental axiom of mathematics. They have done it before, but most advanced modern mathematicians have gone in the wrong direction, because they believe in multiple infinities. Alban fixes and explains that.
5. Alban helps us understand how to navigate in the complicated modern world, while still upholding the Quran (Democracy, healthcare, social sciences, psychology, technology, internet, and so on).
6. Alban tells us all the important history: the beginning of the world, ancient times, Adam, and how we got here, and why science and religion seem not to be in agreement in this issue. You can completely see how they fit in Alban's explanations about this. No one has done that before.
7. Alban tells us the locations of all events mentioned in the Quran. The important Geography. All of them. No one has done that before.
8. Alban solves the philosophical Problem of Evil. Basically, Alban explains why God created humans who will end up in hell? Why should Hell exist? Some of the greatest philosophers on earth, Kant, Leibniz, Calvin, have attempted to solve this philosophical problem, and they made amazing progress, but they still came short from the final answer. God guided me to fully crack this problem.
9. Alban explains the purpose of miracles and why there are no more miracles today. No one has done that before.
10. Alban informs us about the exact proportions of people who will go to Heaven and Hell, and their demographical characteristics. No one has done that before.
11. Alban explains to us when to pray and when to fast in the extreme Northern and Southern regions of the earth, where the day and the night last longer than 24 hours. Religious scholars have given personal opinions about this, but no one found the correct answer from the Quran before.
12. Alban explains Quranic Initials and predicting the future (https://submitters.net/explaining-quranic-initials-predicting-the-future/)
13. etc.

AND the most important thing is:
He claimed that God has given him all the answers to any important question which anyone will ever ask him (25:33)!

Ends.
Thank you.
Bye!
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

good logic

Peace shukri.

Once we heed the message when we come across Qoran, our messenger becomes Qoran.
Messengers come to preach Qoran to those who do not follow/familiar/not yet know... Qoran.

All new messengers after Qoran will only highlight the new knowledge/ prophesies  that are  already in Qoran. They remind with Qoran alone and will use what is in Qoran.
So if one is following Qoran ,one will check with Qoran and move on to follow Qoran and lead a righteous life. They should make no difference to the life of those who are already following Qoran.

As far as the believer is concerned any c laimant should be checked using Qoran . If they fit GODs criteria and uphold Qoran and preach GOD s straight path adding value by highlighting verses of Qoran and never contradict it, then they are a welcome addition  to the believers and are used to pass on the message of Qoran to more people. by GOD fulfilling GOD s promise to keep sending messengers to Bani Adam.

Interesting to check what the brother is saying , but our living messenger is with us already to follow and obey as far as believers of Qoran are concerned.
Thank you for the info.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
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shukri

Quote from: good logic on September 23, 2023, 01:40:00 PM
Peace shukri.

Once we heed the message when we come across Qoran, our messenger becomes Qoran.
Messengers come to preach Qoran to those who do not follow/familiar/not yet know... Qoran.

All new messengers after Qoran will only highlight the new knowledge/ prophesies  that are  already in Qoran. They remind with Qoran alone and will use what is in Qoran.
So if one is following Qoran ,one will check with Qoran and move on to follow Qoran and lead a righteous life. They should make no difference to the life of those who are already following Qoran ....
Peace and thank you for the comment.

My last words for this thread:
(1) The advent of "Sheikh Albana" alias "Alban Fejza" was predicted by Rashad Khalifa during his lifetime.
Please see this video: https://submitters.net/three-messengers-one-mahdi/ (minute 8:13-53)

"And soon enough, here comes Sheikh Albana, and I can tell you, the reason I know that I was fully awake is that I never never never never fall asleep when Sheikh Albana is reading Quran, and when I went for Hajj from here, I took with me a hundred cassette tapes, and I gave them to my brother Atif, and I told him specifically, "I want you to record anything that Albana comes with, whenever he comes on the radio or TV or anything – record it – these hundred tapes – I want them full of recitations of Sheikh Albana"

(2) If anyone here who believes in RK and has any question about al-Quran and his messengership (Alban Fejza), please do not hesitate to contact him at: submitters.net@gmail.com
I myself have a few email conversations with him regarding his videos.

Thank you.
So long!
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

good logic

Peace  shukri.

As far as I know Rashad used to like listening to tapes/videos of Qoran recitations  of Sheikh Ali Albanna , an Egyptian Qoran reciter  this ,example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj_Ka5gGFWg
Nothing to do with this person who claims to be a messenger.. While Rashad was living in America he asked his brother in Egypt to record for him some tapes and videos  of the reciter who was Egyptian . Rashad told the story of using these tapes to listen to while traveling across America and Canada. and elsewhere.
That how I know the story to be ,  it isnot a prophecy of someone else to come after him
GOD bless you.
Peace
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shukri

Quote from: good logic on September 24, 2023, 03:46:02 AM
Peace  shukri.

As far as I know Rashad used to like listening to tapes/videos of Qoran recitations  of Sheikh Ali Albanna , an Egyptian Qoran reciter  this ,example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj_Ka5gGFWg
Nothing to do with this person who claims to be a messenger.. While Rashad was living in America he asked his brother in Egypt to record for him some tapes and videos  of the reciter who was Egyptian . Rashad told the story of using these tapes to listen to while traveling across America and Canada. and elsewhere.
That how I know the story to be ,  it isnot a prophecy of someone else to come after him
GOD bless you.
Peace

Thanks a lot brother good logic
This is a great enlightenment to me  :sun:

God bless you!
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

shukri

One more thing I want to post here is about Mr. Alban's video concerning the prophecy of "the smoke"
(https://submitters.net/the-smoke-prophecy/)

He claimed the prophecy is based on ...
1. The Seven 'H.M.' initials (the seven pairs).
2. The Seven Sleepers of the Cave

I skipped the first point and went straight to the second one. He says ...

[The story of the seven sleepers of the cave is mentioned in Sura 18 in the Quran, and it is connected with future events (18:24). Here are the important verses:
"Why else do you think we are telling you about the people of the cave, and the digits connected with them? They are among our wondrous signs."  (18:9)

18:12 "Then we resurrected them to see which of the two parties could count the duration of their stay therein."
18:22 "Some would say, "They were three; their dog being the fourth," while others would say, "Five; the sixth being their dog," as they guessed. Others said, "Seven," and the eighth was their dog. Say, "My Lord is the best knower of their number." Only a few knew the correct number. Therefore, do not argue with them; just go along with them. You need not consult anyone about this."
18:25 "They stayed in their cave three hundred years, and they added nine."
18:21 "We caused them to be discovered, to let everyone know that GOD's promise (the Smoke) is true..."  (18:21)

So, as you can see, the digits connected with the People of the Cave are 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9. These digits add up to 44. This means that there are 44 years between the time when Alban Fejza discovered this and the time of the Smoke, and again Sura 44 is titled "the Smoke" and this gives us the year when the Smoke will come, which is 1474 A.H., or 2052 A.D.]

My doubt about the Alban's digits:
Mr. Alban's digits of 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 = 44 is wrong as I think he left behind the digit one mentioned in verse 18:19?

18:19 When we resurrected them, they asked each other, "How long have you been here?" "We have been here one day or part of the day," they answered. "Your Lord knows best how long we stayed here, so let us send one of us with this money to the city. Let him fetch the cleanest food, and buy some for us. Let him keep a low profile, and attract no attention.

Am I right!
I do know Arabic and maybe someone here can confirm it!

Thank you.

"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

shukri

Quote from: shukri on September 26, 2023, 04:38:49 AM
Am I right!
I do know Arabic and maybe someone here can confirm it!

Thank you.

The orange bolded phrase should be read as "I do not know Arabic" instead of "I do know Arabic"

Sorry for any inconvenience!
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"

l-nuni

Quote from: shukri on September 26, 2023, 10:51:26 AM
The orange bolded phrase should be read as "I do not know Arabic" instead of "I do know Arabic"

Sorry for any inconvenience!

peace shukri, then learn basics start with time adverbs.

2:11 واذا Wa 'Idhā (with trailing alif i.e., future event)

3:81 واذ Wa 'Idh (i.e., past event)

36:14 اذ  'Idh (i.e., past event)

since he calls those who follow Quran ignorant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3XnPsboYS8

ask him if he woke up from a coma/sleep in a cave or a remote island which month is Ramadan?

ask him meaning of l-kalala as in the Arabic phrase:

الأب يغضب على ولده لا على الكَلَالَة


exciLed

"three messengers prophesied in surah Ya Sin 36:13-14"
Many of my submitter friends are trying to interpret this verse, and trying to prove that he is one of the messengers in this verse after Rashad.
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But for me verse 36:13-14 tells the story of Ilyasa (Elisha) and Ilyas (Elijah) in the Bible who confronted King Ahab and his wife (Jezebel) about Baal worship. You can read the story in 1 Kings 17 until the end in the Bible. From 1 Kings in the Bible we can also know that Ilyas (Elijah) had many students as prophets or messengers, and many of his students were killed by Jezebel, King Ahab's wife.
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Here's the proof; Chapter = 36, Verse 14; Gv of Ilyas (Elijah) = 102, Gv of Ilyasa (Elisha) = 171, then 36+14+102+171 = 323 = 19 x 17
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and from [37:130] we know ..."Peace be upon House/Family of Yaseen"
Chapter = 37, Verse 130, Gv of "House/Family of Yaseen (il 'yaashiina) = 162, Gv of Ilyas (Elijah) = 102, Gv of Ilyasha (Elisha) = 171, then 37130162102171 = 19 x 1954219058009
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Verse [37:130] has a correlation with Surah 36; Ya Seen. (70).
Chapter = 37, Verse 130, Gv of "House/Family of Yaseen (il 'yaashiina) = 162, gv of Chapter 36 (Ya Seen) = 70, then 37+130+162+70 = 399 = 19 x 21
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peace



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good logic

Peace All.
Everything is in Qoran about our salvation - GOD s deen/religion-. Once we come across Qoran,, it is our living messenger.

Any new human claiming messenger of GOD should only direct people to the message-Qoran-.

We have so many questions ,by instinct ,we need to answer.

Reading  and studying Qoran will help us answer them, slowly but surely..

GOD s message can then  answer our  questions on any topic about our redemption/salvation better than anyone else can.

One may ask:Why read and study Qoran?  The answer simply is in "Qoran".
The focus should only be the message.

GOD bless .
Peace.
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shukri

To brother l-nuni, exciLed and good logic
Many thanks for the inputs
May God bless you
Peace.
"My Lord, pardon me if I have forgotten or erred"