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I think the tree serves as a warning, not a test. The apple had some kind of poison or chemical that Satan used to get Adam/us kicked out of The Garden.

If we recount the events: Iblis wants us to eat from the tree, and soon as they do they become mortals*, conscious, aware of their bodies. We are no longer in a blissful, heavenly trance. This state of misery(shaqya) is defined elsewhere as a hell (11:106). Now this is the path that we chose. Away from The Garden, It would be easier for Satan to lead us astray from the path.

Another way to think about this is that this was part of the wager. God believes in us, wants to believe in us but Satan does not. Satan thinks he's better than us and wants to prove God wrong. The Tree was part of that wager. This was Satan's game of manipulation to get Adam and his mate kicked out.


*This is my interpretation based on the fact that we are told that Iblis lied about the promise of immortality. Considering what happened  next in Satan's favor I think the opposite was true, that we already were immortals and the fruit gave us mortality.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/20/world/middleeast/20speech.html?_r=2&hp

Muslims are horrified by his jihad talk and... report him to the FBI.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/04/AR2010120403710.html

Found this under Reddit comments.

Unbelievably, this entire piece is written with 'English' words.

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Dutch_origin

Very very interesting.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18757_5-things-you-wont-believe-arent-in-bible.html?wa_user1=2&wa_user2=History&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=moreon

http://www.poodwaddle.com/worldclock.swf

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[I'd like a convincing argument against this. Something no traditionalist/male chauvinist would have an answer for.]

Salaam,

Many feel that in Islam, the man is in a higher position than the wife. It seems such a view can be easily gathered by a certain way of reading AQ. It would be good to have a counter argument against this.

I'd like a convincing argument against this. Something no traditionalist/male chauvinist would have an answer for.

Please post verses in favor/against this view.

Thanks in advance for all your help.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/wed-at-14-adulterous-girl-azar-bagheri-awaits-stoning/story-e6frg6so-1225890469172

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/02/world/europe/02pope.html?_r=1



Interesting tidbit:

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, had actually been given authority over sexual abuse cases nearly 80 years earlier, in 1922...

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http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/06/29/war

A great piece. A must read.

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I am interested in what happiness is as its own entity, not what happiness means to you or what makes YOU happy. Is sadness a lack of glad tidings? Is happiness purely perception? A drug? If it's a placebo, It could be a delusion, a fantasy, no?

Please explain your answers.