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John

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Re: Bible is a pagan hadith book
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2021, 10:06:21 PM »


You're even more perverted than devil/demon, pagan John.

And you are ignorant. You're a parrot repeating the lies that missionary school made you memorize.

What? You think Satan does NOT know there is one God? Even your stupid book says he knows God.

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Re: Bible is a pagan hadith book
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2021, 10:08:36 PM »
I agree. The Devil believes in GOD. It would have been beneficial for him if he obeyed GOD as well.


According to your false book, Satan did not want to bow down to a creature, and yet God punished him for that. Odd, really odd.

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Re: Bible is a pagan hadith book
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2021, 01:49:41 AM »
No, I'm saying you are ignorant than the Devil/Demon. And you're more perverted. You are a pagan, John.

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Re: Bible is a pagan hadith book
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2021, 10:59:27 PM »
No, I'm saying you are ignorant than the Devil/Demon. And you're more perverted. You are a pagan, John.

And your mother sucks lemons!

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Re: Bible is a pagan hadith book
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2021, 03:45:45 PM »
"The Quran Corrects the False Bible

"Contradiction; The Bible claims that if someone turns away from God, they are lost forever and to be killed;

“For how can those who abandon their faith be brought back to repent again? They were once in God’s light; they tasted heaven’s gift and received their share of the Holy Spirit; they knew from experience that God’s word is good, and they had felt the powers of the coming age. And then they abandoned their faith! It is impossible to bring them back to repent again, because they are again crucifying the Son of God and exposing him to public shame.” (Hebrews 6:4-6)

And

“But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.” (Ezekiel 18:24)

Excuse; Later Scripture overrules previous scriptures


Rebuttal
: Here the Biblicists ignore that the superseding scripture in the Bible also confirms apostates are to be put to death;

“If we decide to go on sinning after we have learned the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins. There is nothing but fear in waiting for the judgment and the terrible fire that will destroy all those who live against God. Anyone who refused to obey the law of Moses was found guilty from the proof given by two or three witnesses. He was put to death without mercy. So what do you think should be done to those who do not respect the Son of God, who look at the blood of the agreement that made them holy as no different from others’ blood, who insult the Spirit of God’s grace? Surely they should have a much worse punishment.” (Hebrews 10:26-29)


Correction
: Our Merciful Lord shows benevolence towards those who stray in error, giving the apostate more than one chance to repent. The Quran does not discard human lives ruthlessly as the Bible appears to:

“Those who believe, then reject faith, then believe (again) and (again) reject faith, and go on increasing in unbelief,- Allah will not forgive them nor guide them nor guide them on the way.” (Quran 4:137)

Furthermore, in the Holy Quran, the death given to apostates is a spiritual one, where the rejecters of faith lose guidance:

“That is because they believed, then they rejected Faith: So a seal was set on their hearts: therefore they understand not.” (Quran 63:3)
Unlike the Bible, the Quran teaches not to physically harm those who do not physically harm us:

“Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.” (Quran 2:256)"

https://www.academia.edu/35353503/200_way_the_Quran_corrects_the_Bible_How_Islam_Unites_Judaism_and_Christianity_pdf

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Re: Bible is a pagan hadith book
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2021, 04:37:23 PM »
"The Quran Corrects the False Bible

"Contradiction; The Bible claims that if someone turns away from God, they are lost forever and to be killed;

“For how can those who abandon their faith be brought back to repent again? They were once in God’s light; they tasted heaven’s gift and received their share of the Holy Spirit; they knew from experience that God’s word is good, and they had felt the powers of the coming age. And then they abandoned their faith! It is impossible to bring them back to repent again, because they are again crucifying the Son of God and exposing him to public shame.” (Hebrews 6:4-6)

And

“But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.” (Ezekiel 18:24)

Excuse; Later Scripture overrules previous scriptures


Rebuttal
: Here the Biblicists ignore that the superseding scripture in the Bible also confirms apostates are to be put to death;

“If we decide to go on sinning after we have learned the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins. There is nothing but fear in waiting for the judgment and the terrible fire that will destroy all those who live against God. Anyone who refused to obey the law of Moses was found guilty from the proof given by two or three witnesses. He was put to death without mercy. So what do you think should be done to those who do not respect the Son of God, who look at the blood of the agreement that made them holy as no different from others’ blood, who insult the Spirit of God’s grace? Surely they should have a much worse punishment.” (Hebrews 10:26-29)


Correction
: Our Merciful Lord shows benevolence towards those who stray in error, giving the apostate more than one chance to repent. The Quran does not discard human lives ruthlessly as the Bible appears to:

“Those who believe, then reject faith, then believe (again) and (again) reject faith, and go on increasing in unbelief,- Allah will not forgive them nor guide them nor guide them on the way.” (Quran 4:137)

Furthermore, in the Holy Quran, the death given to apostates is a spiritual one, where the rejecters of faith lose guidance:

“That is because they believed, then they rejected Faith: So a seal was set on their hearts: therefore they understand not.” (Quran 63:3)
Unlike the Bible, the Quran teaches not to physically harm those who do not physically harm us:

“Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.” (Quran 2:256)"

https://www.academia.edu/35353503/200_way_the_Quran_corrects_the_Bible_How_Islam_Unites_Judaism_and_Christianity_pdf

Again, another lying, dishonest Muslim (I know, I know, it's pleonastic!) who rips a few verses from their context and then mendaciously tries to show a contradiction. Seen it over and over again.

The Bible is not like the Koran. The Bible is not a series of one-liners, like the Koran, but instead each chapter or chapters are linked, pinned in themes and subjects and issues. If crudely sliced up, as Emre has done, the meaning is lost. Bible verses are a whole and if broken up, as Emre has so dishonestly done, meaning can mean anything wicked men want it to mean.

All this shows is that Emre is cunning, a liar and unlearned when it comes to understanding the Bible and Christianity.

For a man with an open heart and a desire to know truth, I encourage them, if there are any, to go to the Bible and read Emre's surgically removed verses in their greater context, not in isolation as Emre has immorally done. As King Solomon warned us, "A fool finds pleasure in wicked schemes, but a person of understanding delights in wisdom." (Proverbs 10:23) And "The righteousness of the blameless makes their paths straight, but the wicked are brought down by their own wickedness." (Proverbs 11:5)

Emre, be very, very careful with your words.

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Re: Bible is a pagan hadith book
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2021, 04:51:41 PM »
"Contradiction; The Bible teaches that missionaries from religions other than yours, are to be put to death;

“But put to death any interpreters of dreams or prophets that tell you to rebel against the Lord, who rescued you from Egypt, where you were slaves. Such people are evil and are trying to lead you away from the life that the Lord has commanded you to live. They must be put to death, in order to rid yourselves of this evil.” (Deuteronomy 13:5)

Excuse; None available.

Correction: God revealed to us in the Holy Quran to tolerate and even protect people of other faiths. If missionaries try to convert us to another religion, we are to politely respond;

“I worship not that which ye worship, Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve: Nor am I going to serve that which you serve, Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve: You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.” (Quran 109:2-6)"


https://www.academia.edu/35353503/200_way_the_Quran_corrects_the_Bible_How_Islam_Unites_Judaism_and_Christianity_pdf

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Re: Bible is a pagan hadith book
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2021, 12:43:02 AM »
"Contradiction; The Bible teaches that missionaries from religions other than yours, are to be put to death;

“But put to death any interpreters of dreams or prophets that tell you to rebel against the Lord, who rescued you from Egypt, where you were slaves. Such people are evil and are trying to lead you away from the life that the Lord has commanded you to live. They must be put to death, in order to rid yourselves of this evil.” (Deuteronomy 13:5)

Excuse; None available.

Correction: God revealed to us in the Holy Quran to tolerate and even protect people of other faiths. If missionaries try to convert us to another religion, we are to politely respond;

“I worship not that which ye worship, Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve: Nor am I going to serve that which you serve, Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve: You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.” (Quran 109:2-6)"


How is it that you say easily lie, misquote and expurgate anything and everything in the Bible? Do you do all this for your fake, pagan god, expecting a reward when you face judgement?


1. Re Deuteronomy 13, a wonderful, though entirely unsuccessful, attempt to strip a line from Torah and its context. The people God (yes, it was God who uttered these words) was condemning were Jewish witches who were intent on turning the Jews away from God to Satan. They knew what they were doing and could have easily packed their bags for Canaan, but opted to stay and wanted to commit treason.

2. Islam is tolerant of other religions? Oh, please! Here's your fake prophet lying that he's got revelation from God: "Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." S. 9:29

"And when the inviolable months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush." (9:5)

"O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean" (9:28)

Yep, the religion of peace...and taqiyya apparently.



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Re: Bible is a pagan hadith book
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2021, 02:41:37 AM »
"Contradiction; The Bible teaches that missionaries from religions other than yours, are to be put to death;

“But put to death any interpreters of dreams or prophets that tell you to rebel against the Lord, who rescued you from Egypt, where you were slaves. Such people are evil and are trying to lead you away from the life that the Lord has commanded you to live. They must be put to death, in order to rid yourselves of this evil.” (Deuteronomy 13:5)

Excuse; None available.

Correction: God revealed to us in the Holy Quran to tolerate and even protect people of other faiths. If missionaries try to convert us to another religion, we are to politely respond;

“I worship not that which ye worship, Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve: Nor am I going to serve that which you serve, Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve: You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.” (Quran 109:2-6)"


https://www.academia.edu/35353503/200_way_the_Quran_corrects_the_Bible_How_Islam_Unites_Judaism_and_Christianity_pdf

Holy Quran corrects the false Bible again;


""Contradiction; God in the Bible orders his followers in a battle to kill every living thing including, women, children, and animals;

“Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I will punish what Am’alek did to Israel in opposing them on the way, when they came up out of Egypt. Go and attack the Amalekites and completely destroy everything they have. Don’t leave a thing; kill all the men, women, children, and babies; the cattle, sheep, camels, and donkeys.” (1 Samuel 15:2–3)

Excuse
; None available.

Correction: God orders Muslims in the Quran to have patience against those who attack you, and if the attacks persist, we are only to retaliate with the same amount we were attacked with and to never go beyond the amount of attack we received:

“And if you take your turn, then retaliate with the like of that with which you were afflicted; But if ye endure patiently, verily it is better for the patient.” (Quran 16:126)"

https://www.academia.edu/35353503/200_way_the_Quran_corrects_the_Bible_How_Islam_Unites_Judaism_and_Christianity_pdf

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Re: Bible is a pagan hadith book
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2021, 02:51:13 AM »
Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself.

Quran only allows a war of defense.

If you read the full of the verses, you will always see the struggle with the attackers in the defense battle.

Example;

2:190 Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors.

2:191 Fight them wherever you meet them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. Do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then fight them. Thus is the reward of those who do not appreciate.

2:192 If they cease, then God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

2:193 Fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God's. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.

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Here again, He says, fight with the attackers.

But if you pull out a single verse. You make it look like saying the opposite.

And look at:

49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.

As you can see saying, if the attackers are Muslims, stop them too.