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Are meteors really missiles thrown at jinns by angels?
« on: September 04, 2019, 01:04:46 PM »
Salam,

Are meteors really missiles thrown at jinns by angels?



In Surah Mulk, verse 5, Allah says:

وَلَقَدْ زَيَّنَّا السَّمَاءَ الدُّنْيَا بِمَصَابِيحَ وَجَعَلْنَاهَا رُجُومًا لِلشَّيَاطِينِ ۖ وَأَعْتَدْنَا لَهُمْ عَذَابَ السَّعِيرِ

And We have certainly beautified the nearest heaven with stars and have made [from] them what is thrown at the devils and have prepared for them the punishment of the Blaze.

How do we understand the highlighted phrase? Does it refer to meteorites falling to earth? If yes, since they also fall on other planets, what do we make of their purpose?

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Re: Are meteors really missiles thrown at jinns by angels?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2019, 11:10:39 AM »
Salam NK

Please see 18:22

.........سَيَقُولُونَ ثَلَـٰثَةٌ۬ رَّابِعُهُمۡ كَلۡبُهُمۡ وَيَقُولُونَ خَمۡسَةٌ۬ سَادِسُہُمۡ كَلۡبُہُمۡ رَجۡمَۢا بِٱلۡغَيۡبِ‌ۖ

They would say they were three, the dog being the fourth among them; and they say they were five, the dog being the sixth― doubtfully guessing at the unknown;

67:5
وَلَقَدۡ زَيَّنَّا ٱلسَّمَآءَ ٱلدُّنۡيَا بِمَصَـٰبِيحَ وَجَعَلۡنَـٰهَا رُجُومً۬ا لِّلشَّيَـٰطِينِ‌ۖ وَأَعۡتَدۡنَا لَهُمۡ عَذَابَ ٱلسَّعِيرِ

And We have adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made them Rujuman , and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire.

The evil ones use stars and planets to guess future.

24:35
 ...........ٱللَّهُ نُورُ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٲتِ وَٱلۡأَرۡضِ‌ۚ مَثَلُ نُورِهِۦ كَمِشۡكَوٰةٍ۬ فِيہَا مِصۡبَاحٌ‌ۖ ٱلۡمِصۡبَاحُ فِى زُجَاجَةٍ‌ۖ

Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The Parable of His Light is as if there were a Niche and within it a Lamp: the Lamp enclosed in Glass ..........

You can see that مِصۡبَاحٌ‌ۖ = Lamp in 24:35 مَصَـٰبِيحَ is plural of مِصۡبَاحٌ‌ۖ

Rujuman allegorically means guessing doubtfully.

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Re: Are meteors really missiles thrown at jinns by angels?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2019, 01:36:32 PM »
Salam Novice,

Perfect answer. Thanks for your reply. It completely make sense. The good thing is it is backed up by Quran.


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Re: Are meteors really missiles thrown at jinns by angels?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2019, 01:47:55 PM »
Salam Novice,

Could you please comment onشِهَابٌ ثَاقِبٌ in Chapter 37 verse 10.

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Re: Are meteors really missiles thrown at jinns by angels?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2019, 04:23:20 PM »
Salam NK

Surah 37 starts with Allah making few things witness to emphasis that all creation is following the commands of its Rabb. His laws are working all around us. Humans have a physical body that follows the commands of the Rabb, like functions of our body parts. In addition to that they have been given the ability to choose between right and wrong which has also been communicated through messengers who received revelations.

From 37:4 emphasis is on one creator whose laws are everywhere. He appointed the celestial bodies above us as a decoration as well as a protection. Some humans take these celestial bodies as a source to find out future and destiny of people. These evil ones are pushed away from every side because they are following their conjectures and are far away from the truth. Sometimes their guesses become true accidentally and they claim they have knowledge of unseen. It was happening before the revelation of the final message which acts as a source of knowledge against the guess work. This source of true knowledge is like a bright light شِہَابٌ۬ ثَاقِبٌ۬ that pierces through the darkness of ignorance.

2:257
ٱللَّهُ وَلِىُّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ يُخۡرِجُهُم مِّنَ ٱلظُّلُمَـٰتِ إِلَى ٱلنُّورِ‌ۖ وَٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓاْ أَوۡلِيَآؤُهُمُ ٱلطَّـٰغُوتُ يُخۡرِجُونَهُم مِّنَ ٱلنُّورِ إِلَى ٱلظُّلُمَـٰتِ‌ۗ أُوْلَـٰٓٮِٕكَ أَصۡحَـٰبُ ٱلنَّارِ‌ۖ هُمۡ فِيہَا خَـٰلِدُونَ
Allah is the protecting friend of those who have Imaan He takes them out of darkness into light ....

37:4-10
إِنَّ إِلَـٰهَكُمۡ لَوَٲحِدٌ۬ (٤) رَّبُّ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٲتِ وَٱلۡأَرۡضِ وَمَا بَيۡنَہُمَا وَرَبُّ ٱلۡمَشَـٰرِقِ (٥) إِنَّا زَيَّنَّا ٱلسَّمَآءَ ٱلدُّنۡيَا بِزِينَةٍ ٱلۡكَوَاكِبِ (٦) وَحِفۡظً۬ا مِّن كُلِّ شَيۡطَـٰنٍ۬ مَّارِدٍ۬ (٧) لَّا يَسَّمَّعُونَ إِلَى ٱلۡمَلَإِ ٱلۡأَعۡلَىٰ وَيُقۡذَفُونَ مِن كُلِّ جَانِبٍ۬ (٨) دُحُورً۬ا‌ۖ وَلَهُمۡ عَذَابٌ۬ وَاصِبٌ (٩) إِلَّا مَنۡ خَطِفَ ٱلۡخَطۡفَةَ فَأَتۡبَعَهُ ۥ شِہَابٌ۬ ثَاقِبٌ۬

When I read these verses in context and broader picture of Qur'an this is what I get. Hope it helps.



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Re: Are meteors really missiles thrown at jinns by angels?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2019, 03:37:55 AM »
Thanks Novice. Much appreciated.

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Re: Are meteors really missiles thrown at jinns by angels?
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2019, 09:06:57 AM »
For arriving at what is actually conveyed in a text, it is essential to know or determine the type of text. Purpose, language and format differs in various types of text.

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Re: Are meteors really missiles thrown at jinns by angels?
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2019, 09:55:47 AM »
Salam.

I would say, yes.

Jinn to my understanding are beings made of energy - which means they could travel outside the atmosphere with no need for vehicles. However, they are restricted and are shot down with fiery projectiles that contain copper.
`And when God Alone is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter are filled with aversion; and when others are mentioned beside Him, they rejoice!` (The Quran 39:45)

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Re: Are meteors really missiles thrown at jinns by angels?
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2019, 10:50:23 AM »
Here is the explanation by Dr Abdur Rahim of Madina Books fame:


http://drvaniya.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Q59-Saba-aayah-53.pdf


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